Auto Drivers Express Anger Against Transport Department: ಸಾರಿಗೆ ಇಲಾಖೆ ವಿರುದ್ಧ ರೊಚ್ಚಿಗೆದ್ದ ಆಟೋ ಚಾಲಕರು

[@Lokeshb6362]

ಆಟೋದವರು ಹೆಚ್ಚು ಹಣ ವಸೂಲಿ ಮಾಡುತ್ತಿದ್ದಾರೆ ಮತ್ತು ನಾವು ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಬರಲ್ಲ ಇಲ್ಲಿಗೆ ಬರಲ್ಲ ಅಂತೀರಾ

[@Manjunath-sd1mk]

ರೂ. 20 ಬಾಡಿಗೆಗೆ 150 ರುಪಾಯಿ ಕೇಳ್ತಿರ್ರಿ ಆಟೋದವರು

[@BalaKrishna-gs5ri]

@@Manjunath-sd1mk ಸತ್ಯ 👍

[@shiva.sk321]

ಕೆಟ್ಟ ಮೇಲೆ ಬುದ್ಧಿ ಬಂತು... ಅಲ್ಲಿ ಬರಲ್ಲ....ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಬರಲ್ಲ......ಬರುವಾಗ ಖಾಲಿ ಬರಬೇಕು..ಮಳೆ ಬಂದರೆ ಡಬಲ್....ಬೆಳಗ್ಗೆ ಡಬಲ್....ಲಗೆಜ ಇದ್ದರೆ ಡಬಲ್......ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಗೆ ಹೊಸಬರು ಬಂದರೆ ಅರ್ದ ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು ದರ್ಶನ..... ಮಿಟರ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಒನ್ ಅಂಡ್ ಹಾಫ್....ರಾತ್ರಿ ವೇಳೆ ಡಬಲ್.....ನೀವು ನಿಯತ್ತಾಗಿ ಮಿಟರ್ ಹಾಕೊಂಡು ಓಡಿಸಿದ್ದರೆ ನಿಮಗೆ ಇಂಥ ಪರಿಸ್ಥಿತಿ ಬರ್ತಾ ಇರಲಿಲ್ಲ ...😂 ಎಲ್ಲಕ್ಕಿಂತ ಮಿಗಿಲಾಗಿ ದ್ದು ನೀವೇ ಮತ ಹಾಕಿ ಗೆಲ್ಲಿಸಿರೊ ಸರ್ಕಾರ..😂😂

[@shareefkp122]

@@shiva.sk321 it's true

[@shankarnarayana1604]

Niyattahi ಮೀಟರ್ ಹಾಕಿ ಓಡಿಸಿ ಆಗುತ್ತೆ ದರೋಡೆ ಕಮ್ಮಿ ಮಾಡಿ

[@unknown1992]

All old rowdy sheeters & parodis are now auto drivers ...

[@Hi5...]

ಆಟೋ ದವರು ಡಬಲ್ ಕೇಳ್ತಾರೆ 100. 50 ಬುಕ್ ಆದ್ರೆ ಬರಲ್ಲ ಕ್ಯಾನ್ಸಲ್ ಮಾಡ್ತಿರಾ ಬೈಕ್ ಟ್ಯಾಕ್ಸಿ ಬೇಕೇ ಬೇಕು

[@rajjaiswal3147]

ರಾಪಿಡೋ ಇರುವವರೆಗೂ ನಾನು ಸಾರ್ವಜನಿಕರನ್ನು ದರೋಡೆ ಮಾಡಲು ಸಾಧ್ಯವಿಲ್ಲ ಎಂದು ಆಟೋ ಚಾಲಕನಿಗೆ ಚೆನ್ನಾಗಿ ತಿಳಿದಿದೆ.

[@niroop4299]

2KM you guys ask 100+ what will people do.

[@prakashnikhil6557]

ಬೇರೆ ಯಾರಿಗೂ ರೇಟ್ ಜಾಸ್ತಿ ಆಗಿಲ್ವ ನಿಮಗೊಬ್ಬರಿಗೇನಾ ಜಾಸ್ತಿ ಆಗಿರೋದು

[@santhoshdp1507]

ನೀವೂ 1km ge 100 ತಗೊಂಡಿದ್ದು jana ಮರೆತಿಲ್ಲ... ಏನಾದ್ರೂ ola uber illa andidre nimna hidiyoru yar irlila.... ಅಂದಹಾಗೆ janara ಬೆಂಬಲ ರಪಿಡೊ ಗೆ ಇದೇ....😂😂😂😂

[@ceasernone8790]

Auto cheating Better to go Rapido or Ola.

[@gopim329]

ನೀವು ಆಟೋ ಮಾರಿ ಬೈಕ್ ತಗೋಳಿ ಸರ್

[@jhgindia]

Ban rowdy drivers

[@shashikumar-sc9lh]

ಗ್ರಾಹಕರು ಕರೆದಾಗ😅 ಸೈಲೆಂಟ್ ಆಗಿ ಹೋಗೋದನ್ನ ಕಲಿಯಿರಿ ಎಲ್ಲ ಸರಿ ಹೋಗುತೇ

[@crazycomedy8225]

I faced recently 20 day's before my dad was very serious i went to search a auto ... No body is ready to come for hospital from rt nagar to Baptist hospital which located near hebbal... For auto fellows are worst ... I lost my father doctors told .. if u was getting him before halfnar there was some hope he was Alive ... And told sorry his no more... That movment how i feel ... I hate this auto driver's ... I decided to use bus from that day

[@Dpdp-up7hb]

ಅವ್ರ ಬಗ್ಗೆ ಒಂದೇ ಒಂದು ಗುಡ್ ಕಾಮೆಂಟ್ ಇಲ್ಲಾ 😂😂

[@shankarkambale7532]

ಜನ ಇದ್ದಾರೆ ಅಂತ ಸರ್ಕಾರಕ್ಕೆ ಗೊತ್ತಿಲ್ಲ ಅಂತ ಅನಿಸುತ್ತದೆ

[@Krishnamurthy-hq8gv]

Ksrtc ಬಸ್ ಸ್ಟಾಪ್ ಗಳಲ್ಲಿ ಬಾಯಿಗೆ ಬಂಧಗೆ ರೇಟ್ ಕೆಳ್ತಿರಾ. ಜೈ ರಾಫಿಡೋ.

[@BIMANNADANDOJI]

Good

[@Rammy0007]

ನಿವು ೩೦ ರೂಪಾಯಗೆ ಹೋಗೊ ಜಾಗಕ್ಕೆ ೩೦೦ ರೂಪಾಯಿ ಕೆಳ್ತಿರಾ ಒಲಾ,ಉಬರ್,‌ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಓಕೆ..

[@naveengp184]

1day railway station ge hogi kelrappa, 2km ge 300 to 400 kelthare… Niyatthagi meter hakond hogidre bike taxi yak barthave

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Nin noduda guru,,nodidre immediately complaint yake madillla helu guru

[@vinaymohithe7634]

First auto ban maadi

[@mkrishnamurthy4736]

ನೀವು ಕರೆದ ಜಾಗಕ್ಕೆ ಬರಲ್ಲ? Nee hoga ಜಾಜಕ್ಕೆ ಬರಬೇಕಾ, ಬೇರೆ ಕೆಲಸ ಮಾಡಿ🎉

[@nandinimuthagi8273]

Awarige irosti kobbi yarigu illa

[@prashanthj807]

taxi/auto odsavr 80% kalru niyathag dhudiyo yogyathe irala.....ivr customers atra jagla ilaa avr avre jagla. ........ ola uber inda atleast niyathagi dhudiyo drivers gal badhukotavre......online elaa muchsi mathe jangal mele sikid rate aktare ola li 10km ogake 100 adre same direct ogi autodavn kelide meter akala 250 fixed eltare intha dhud thagond udara agbeka

[@SRHVolgas1990]

1 km ge 100 kellutaru auto Avaru

[@daudsanga4623]

Ur Right 👍

[@sunilram693]

I ❤Rapido bike taxi

[@SUJAYR-fy8qj]

ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ಬೆಂಗಳೂರಿನಲ್ಲಿ ಆಟೋ ಬ್ಯಾನ್ ಮಾಡಿ, ಠೀಕ ಕಬ್ಬು ಜಾಸ್ತಿ, ನಮ್ಮ ಕ್ಯಾಬ್ ಡ್ರೈವರ್‌ಗಳಿಗೆ ಸಮಸ್ಯೆ ಆಗ್ತಿದೆ, ದಯವಿಟ್ಟು ಮೆಟ್ರೋ ರೈಲು ನಿಲ್ಲಿಸಿ😂😂😂

[@GagandachhuDachhu]

Obba drivar agi matdake nachhike agalva

[@thebestqualityproduct470]

We want rapido we dont want auto

[@Krishnamurthy-hq8gv]

ಓಲಾ ಯಾಕೆ ಬೇಕು RTO ಕೊಟ್ಟ ಮೀಟರ್ ಗುಜರಿಗೆ ಹೋಯ್ತಾ

[@chintuchintu1800]

ಬೈಕ್ ಟ್ಯಾಕ್ಸಿ ಬೇಕು we want bike taxi

[@jalendrakn320]

Online bandu hagbeku handrey auto davru 1 km gey 100 rs takoladu bidbeku

[@akshay-oj4nl]

Customer nu keli ee particular aagi banglore nalli auto dor andre looti madoke iddare 9-10 km ge 500rs sulge madtare bike taxi close agbardu auto davr sulige antya agle beku

[@shabanashirahatti]

Majestic enda yashwantpur ke e,auto davru 400kelltare rapido autu 75 aagutey

[@priyankapriyanka4160]

@@shabanashirahatti 450 kotti bandidini nanu

[@Lamican]

Please don’t cancel OLA, UBER & RAPIDO, other wise these people will make public life miserable. Just visit yeswanthpur railway station, see jow they are looting. Minimum they will ask Rs 500/-. These people will not put the meter.

[@ravitejabcbc5558]

ಮತ್ತೆ ಇವರು ಜನರ ಸುಲಿಗೆ ಮಾಡತಾರೆ 2km 100rs ಇಸ್ಕೊತಾರೆ

[@manjumr3511]

3 km ge 300 keli kotbidtare rapido is best😂😂

[@Cozeehive]

ಜನರೇ ಸರಿಯಾದ ಪಾಠ ಕಲಿಸ್ಥಾರೆ ಈ ಆಟೋ ಚಾಲಕರಿಗೆ . ನೋಡ್ತಾ ಇರಿ... ಇನ್ನು ಮೇಲೆ ಮೀಟರ್ ಮೇಲೆ ಎಕ್ಸ್ಟ್ರಾ ಕೇಳ್ಬೇಕು ನಿಮಗಿದೆ ಮಾರಿ ಹಬ್ಬ😅😅

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Le thagadu first neenu sari ago

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Ond sala neenu auto odso amele helo

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Thagadu

[@MagazineFashion]

Autorishaw banned madi

[@future_films_official]

Auto ban madi first mannerless people

[@ravikumaraa8339]

Le gubal nin yavano yeloki nam kasta yenu antha gotha ninge yavano thappu madidhane antha yellru hage eralla ondhu sari nam jevna bandhu nodu

[@future_films_official]

@@ravikumaraa8339 bro nam maneli dudiyoke yaru illa nan mele idi family depend agide avattu nan first interview ittu bengluru ge bandidde first time JP nagar metro inda golden palace ge uber auto li 45₹ ittu ade nim local avru 150 keltidare nam duddig bele ilva ? Nam kashta arta agalva ?

[@ravikumaraa8339]

@@future_films_official brother nanu yelodhu Este ninu Book madkondu hogu yak keloki hode allva nine yetha edeya uber nalle est ede antha andhmele booking madbekithu allva

[@ravikumaraa8339]

@@future_films_official yellru gu avr family eruthe nanu first food delivery madi jevna madtha edde nan thara tumba Jana edhare

[@vinaymohithe7634]

Niyattagi dudidre pavagilla ,, 1 km ge 100 rupai ,,yav lekka

[@flying___falcon]

Govt free bus baghe yake madtha illa nivu gallu 😅

[@shivakumarkr3870]

Kelidre beeja odithare

[@santoshgowda9610]

Yaru auto use madbedi avag avrge buddi barathe

[@Dpdp-up7hb]

😂😂ಮೊದ್ಲು ಮುಚ್ಕೊಂಡ್ ಪ್ರಾಮಾಣಿಕ ರಾಗಿ ಕೆಲಸ ಮಾಡಿ 😂😂

[@shabaazkhan2]

Sir if u stopping Bike taxi for bike Rider's.. u should Stop Old Uber, taxi services for Auto drivers.. swalpa Bewarsi Auto drivers Rain days. Aali 50rs Ge 500 kentare .. is this a justice ⚖️

[@niz8444]

Auto beda rapido beku.

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Howda yen vishyakke guru night time nalli hudgirna karkond hogi touch madodakka?

[@mangalab2148]

ಎಲ್ಲಾ ಹಳ್ಳಿಗೆ ಹೋಗಿ ಮೈ ಬಗ್ಗಿಸಿ ದುಡಿರಿ...

[@Fjcccccd]

ಮೀಟರ್ ಚಾರ್ಜ್‍ನ ದ್ವಿಗುಣ ಶುಲ್ಕವನ್ನು ವಿಧಿಸುವವರಿಗೆ ಶಾಪ ಇರಲಿ. ಆದರೆ ನಿಜವಾದ ಆಟೋ ಚಾಲಕರು ಇದರಿಂದ ದುಃಖಿತರಾಗಿದ್ದಾರೆ.

[@VijayKumar-hh8gb]

ಬೊಳಿ ಮಕ್ಳ 50 rs hogo ಜಾಗದಲ್ಲಿ 300 ಕೇಳ್ತೀರಾ

[@thelegends-000]

Nimman tullu gas nimmappa haktana

[@chethansathvikgowda3651]

​@@thelegends-000auto yako hodisthiya maneli iru maathu sariyagi matadu

[@Rammy0007]

​@@thelegends-000Sulemakkala Nimage Sariyagi Aagide

[@itsmesb13]

@@thelegends-000intha holsu mind set irodke jana auto ge barodu kammi agirodu

[@sudeepmj-lo7sh]

@@thelegends-000 soole magne 50rs gas haki 50000.rs collection madthira chutia nann makla

[@laxmishakm9426]

If the auto driver's of Bangalore uses meter properly there won't be a much of a problem like this. I have seen in Mumbai and Pune, all the auto drivers uses meter and the cost is equivalent to Ola/Uber and many times it's less in short distance. People don't think of Ola/Uber there. Bangalore auto driver's should learn from them.

[@chethankumars3725]

ಹೌದು ಗುರೂ ನಂದೂ ಪ್ರಾವಿಷನ್ store ಇದೆ ನಾನು ಬಂಡವಾಳ ಹಾಕಿದೀನಿ but ವ್ಯಾಪಾರ ಆಗ್ತಾ ಇಲ್ಲ ಅದಿಕ್ಕೆ ಬಿಗ್ ಬಾಸ್ಕೆಟ್ Jio mart ಉಡಾನ್ Flipkart Amazon ಮತ್ತೆ ಎಲ್ಲ ಬ್ಯಾನ್ ಆಗ್ಬೇಕು

[@rakshithgowda7549]

We support good auto drivers,, But Bike taxi is also the future,, And its economical,, Just bcz this ppl bought a new auto that doesn't mean people shd pay the burdon,, Bike taxi should get some rules,, but it shd not be stopped. Its Fact

[@theraj2782]

Boli makala metro station nalli 1 to triple keltitlra adu yava lekka

[@Shravz5]

Janrige mundaysodu kammi madi, avaga ellru barthare😂

[@premkumarhl24]

Hubli, Darwad & Chitradurga dalli Rapid Uber Kotre Janagalige Help Agutte....

[@SPSS-love4u]

Zero auto zero traffic.....

[@guruprasadbombore3879]

E b maklige 1 and half beku antaare

[@Innovativeideacreation]

Bike taxi best...becuse empolymenmt one reson.. Auto driver asking so much money

[@fedkaveri]

I paid 100rs to auto driver for 1.5 kmts please come to hosa road Auto stand and do reality check. Why did they charge so much? First of all Auto drivers are more greedy

[@Navneeth22]

Meter hakond hogi andre ganchali madtita banglore alli

[@Rajkannadiga8045]

ಬೆಳಗೆ ಇಂದ ಸಂಜೆ ವರ್ಗ ಸರಿಯಾಗಿ ಡ್ಯೂಟಿ ಮಾಡಿದ್ರೆ ಮಿನಿಮಮ್ ಅಂದ್ರು 3000 ಆಗುತ್ತೆ ಅದು ಕೇವಲ 500 ಗ್ಯಾಸ್ ಅಲ್ಲಿ

[@manjumanjunatha9932]

Le bolmagne netege.coment.mado

[@Rajkannadiga8045]

@@manjumanjunatha9932 kk Bolimagane sari 🥻 Maga 😂

[@manjumanjunatha9932]

@@Rajkannadiga8045 kk andre.nema.aman.keyodana.antha.arthna.ela.keyke.ba.anthana.sulemagne

[@veerannahattaraki1940]

Government make meter compulsory charge or customer can complain on auto driver.

[@syedsuhailkhalid6405]

The police should take action against the auto drivers who fleece their passengers.The auto drivers must stop charging exhorbitantly.

[@manjunathappu5315]

ಸರ್ ಆಟೋ ದವುರು 250/ಹಾಗುತ್ತೆ 600/ ಚಾರ್ಜ್ ಆಯ್ತಾ ಸರ್ ಓಲಾ ಉಬರ್ ನಲ್ಲಿ 240/rs

[@Dpdp-up7hb]

ಲೂಟಿ ಮಾಡೋ, ಒರಟು ಆಟೋ ನಮಗೆ ಬೇಡ 😂

[@KaleemKhan-tj2mq]

Asking 500 for 6to 7km waste of them not on meters

[@funnyworld5113]

rapido, ola avrigu family aythe neev yaar thadeyoke

[@khalandar8805]

Single customer ge auto beka 2k Rs200 tagontira rapido bike taxi Rs30 ade single customer nivu 50 tagobidi 2km nodana nimtara badvru irtare 200-500 kottu auto attalla.

[@electricalmep5309]

First respect customers . Directly i as him they ask meter may ley 20kodi 30kodi 😂😂allibaralla ,illi baralla😂😂

[@amsung143]

But nobody thinks about common people or working classes customers, if you keep doing this people will simply start using more and more there won car, ev bike etc, then think about traffic and environment, only resolution left is Developing Public transport like bus and metro And People if anybusiness not sustainable its smart to consider something else other than forcing government and customers to unwanted deals you can't force common people

[@countryfirstnextreligion440]

Highest traffic violation and accident because of these autos ,government should ban this autos

[@chandrashekarchandrashekar296]

Auto nu close madi

[@monsterhunt7481]

After exploiting all these years now they are remembering meters😂😂😂 karma

[@lokeshsshankar529]

Evrge government free bus tadiyo takath illa a bike taxi avrmela biddu 😢😢dare

[@PradeepS-c1v]

Worst driver 75% hige erod bare rowdy s

[@ravindrareddy5334]

Auto davaru 5 km rain bandre 220 ₹ bike taxi bake namge

[@future_films_official]

Auto ge meter hakskolroo... Illa andre nkn bike ae hattodu

[@k-pt5tv]

yalla auto bann madi Bangalore High tech city best talaynao iralla

[@godofthunder3229]

Nevenukke shaata thariyoke auto hodisthira hagadre bittu neeve bere nodkoli 😂😂😂😂

[@yogidrag7247]

Auto drivers galu ola, rapido, Uber, namma yatri ge vehicles na attach madikondirthare adu Sarina.....one vehicle two mobiles on time 4 app running irute.... WHITE BOARD BIKE TAXI ALLA, FIRST auto ge kottiro permission na BAN madbeku... One customer idre bike taxi, 2 or 3 or more customers idre CAB BOOKING ge permission kodbeku.... AUTO DAVARU CUT SEATS, GOODS, idayavudu madokke hogadae muchkond METER haki gaadi drive madidre idyella problem irta irallilla.....

[@PraneshNair-d9j]

Stop auto drivers in Bangalore better traffic will clear 😅

[@stylishvicky4132]

Nin odsbeda bidu nin yaru madu andru

[@Lamican]

These auto drivers are those, who playing the cards whole day in near to local kannada dwaja, they will catch any one customer and loot them by Rs 500/- and they will go to home.

[@priyankapriyanka4160]

Hogro kachada gala

[@Gangashargangu]

Alla guru nivu rapido matte ola uber ban adre 1 km 50 rinda 100 keltira avaga las agodu nammanta midle class jana pleas yavudu ban agbaradu

[@thippeshtalavar5919]

First auto ban agli city aga thumba clean aguthe signal 🚦 jump adella yar madthare heli evar kelidastu amount yar kodthare

[@chethansathvikgowda3651]

meter akondu odisli amele yella ola uber rapido ban madi without meter auto seez madbeku bekadre bike taxi ban madli meter mele extra kelidre fine akbeku niyathagi dudiyorige namma support

[@Dpdp-up7hb]

ಅವ್ರ ದುಡಿಮೆ ಅವ್ರಿಗೆ, ಇವ್ರ ದುಡಿಮೆ ಇವ್ರಿಗೆ 😂😂😂

[@hemavathikumar9123]

Meter hakondu bandidre evella ertita ? Especially in muslim dominated areas next to IT parks ... They just charge 200-300rs min for 2kms. They are auto guys without badge or part of union or wear uniforms. If these guys would have protested on them then on others. Rapido/quick ride was inaugurated by AJ in a tech park in 2017-2018 and others have stakes in OLA and UBER why will they stop ?! Have sense , it was govt that allowed these to overcharge and it's the same govt you are asking justice !!

[@ranjithkumar-xw2go]

Stop taking fire amount on customer like 300rupees 500rupees for 1km 2km

[@saurov.das223]

Ban rowdy auto.. auto guys wants to do scam with passenger online they can't that is is the main issue

[@nischayraj6548]

ಇಲ್ಲಿ ಬಂದಿರೋರು ಯಾರು ನಿಯತ್ತಾಗಿ ಆಟೋ ಓಡಿಸೋರಲ್ಲ..ನಿಯತ್ತಾಗಿರೋರು ಡ್ಯೂಟಿ ಮಾಡ್ತಾವ್ರೆ

[@manumanay3873]

Live and let live Auto drivers not honest enough No meter Direct fix charges Rough driving by 80 percent autos Full rowdism

[@Alexjhon84]

first meter hoku

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Neenu first yella close mado thagadu

[@GopiS-xp4lf]

Helid route baralla, meter hakalla, 2km rs.150 heltare

[@PrasadUshaprasad]

UB City enda. Kormanglakke. 500. Kelthira. Yake. Shata. Theriyka. Meetar. Akalla. Anthira. Yake. Shata. Theriyaka. Auto annandira male. Ondo. Respect. Ithhu. Adu. Evaga. Eldangayithu. Agaludaroday. Madthira. Yake.

[@ThousiThousif-cc8gg]

Yake nevu yavatadru metru haki hogtera kalru nevu

[@BargavA-pq4fe]

Please don't cancel two Wheeler bike taxi especially rapido uber giving best to best 👍service but auto won't get once if rain comes they demand for 3km rs 300 area wise amount demanding also neglected to come to our destination. Metro city need two Wheeler for transportation auto can't provide 100percent coverage to city customers simply they do damage and mischievous things they need to understand the situation s. Night times even if we book ola uber rapido ask us to cancel the ride especially night times security matters already daily auto people some are good some are bad we can't go as meter way.

[@avinashmn2791]

Auto sachagalu

[@NarasimhaNarasimha-t3p]

Ivnu sacha😂😂😂

[@Navneeth22]

Meter hakond hogtara Keli

[@ravindrav4564]

Auto prices more Because Uber ok ola ok

[@somusomu708]

Obbandharu nijav helthaiddara😂😂😂

[@venkatpadavala1793]

Mimmalani auto ni evadu nadapamannadu ,mi comfortable chusukoni auto drive chestunnaru, Vere work chusukondi , Only banglore worst auto drivers behave rowdyism, Please avoid auto

[@wiz-poppy2337]

1000° Right

[@ravikumarc6458]

oho neevu saacha bidro 1.5 km ba andre 100 keltira adannu heli

[@aniketdutta5052]

#boycottautorickshaw

[@MagazineFashion]

This autorishaw driver when ask there say don't go anywhere .full demand