"The new Kia Sportage is so good, I bought one": REVIEW

[@RobJNathanSings]

Driving the '23 plate right now, as a rental whilst waiting for my EV6. Fallen in love ....

[@KootBear]

a video update or review of what you think about the car 1 year later would be really nice

[@maxtroy8511]

First Doug buys a Kia Stinger and now Nicola gets a Kia Sportage. Speaks volumes about how much Kia have improved as a brand.

[@HiCZoK]

yeah I found KIA got a ton of hate and I am not sure why. At least they clearly improved with 2021/22/23 models

[@garrydelday5816]

Have had the GT Line Hybrid for 4 months now and it’s the best KIA I have owned, so much so I have just ordered a new one for March/April. Worth mentioning that if you go for top spec GT Line S the road tax jumps from £170 to over £500 as it breaks the £40k threshold 🤔 Ok if you are doing lots of mileage but if you do below 20k per year look at the GT Line. Performance is really good, GT Line 1.6 GDI T Hybrid will do 0 - 60 mph in under 7.5 s in sport mode and put a smile on your face. The hybrid comes into its own around town and manoeuvring where it will use totally electric power as often as possible and the little battery is topped up very quickly so is always available for such driving situations. Build quality is really solid and the interior is a nice place to be, far exceeds the competition. I would say the best value small family SUV on the market and I’m not surprised you have fell in love with it. KIA have got their act together with this car and the competition are playing catch up 😉

[@jammasterquo]

We have this exact car (colour and all) had it for 2 weeks now. Love it. Absolutely love it. Had the old Sportage GT-Line and this is head and shoulders above it. It's quick, big enough for our family of 4 and as she pointed out, it's very relaxing to drive.

[@boothy6957]

Can I ask what you think of the colour now you have lived with it for a while? Priced one up and it’s in budget, same as this one, but would prefer the white. The red will stay in budget and I do like it. Is it a flat colour or metallic?

[@jammasterquo]

@@boothy6957 I still love the colour, think it looks great on the GT-Line S trim with the extra black bits and the glass roof. It's metallic (don't think Kia offers any flat colours on the Sportage). Saw a white one and the burnt orange colour today, both look great in fairness. It's an excellent car though, still really enjoying driving it

[@boothy6957]

@@jammasterquo I have ordered a white one but the red was a very close second. Is yours the full hybrid? What MPG are you getting?

[@jammasterquo]

@@boothy6957 yeah the hybrid not the phev. I'm getting about 38mpg on motorway currently, however its only just over 1k miles so not fully run in yet so I'm hoping that figure improves. Other thing is it's 100bhp up on my old Sportage so I've still got a bit of a heavy foot 😂 once I'm used to that I'm sure the mpg will improve too

[@boothy6957]

@@jammasterquo Yeah it should settle down. I hope it gets better than that! My MK8 GTi does nearly 50 mpg sat at 70 on adaptive cruise on the motorway!

[@leel9186]

one of the best reviewers around. I actually bought one after watching your reviews. After a couple of delays, it arrives in a week.

[@dougiemiller5030]

My new favourite reviewer. Funny, personable but still gets a proper review across. Nice car. We have the new XCEED PHEV and we love it

[@georgedowns4034]

even better than Mat?

[@mrael6304]

What a great review, er. I could listen to her soothing voice all day. Beautiful, car.

[@brulaapgaapmeester8052]

@@georgedowns4034 I think she's prettier than Mat.

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

@@georgedowns4034 Matt is a Pratt

[@georgedowns4034]

@@Yorkshiremadmick Why's that?

[@EdgarRenje]

A Nicrola review. Always great and now we know how even more excited she is when she talks about her own car. Totally agree with you: it stands out, it's decent, nice choice!

[@chrisjgill75]

What is the best trim level to go for? A lot of reviews show the GT line but if budget is a factor, what about the lower trim levels?

[@Klatikita]

In Serbia we got Fresh and Motion mid trims. With Fresh you get heated seats and mirrors, back camera and parking sensors, 4" and 10" displey screen, 17"wheels, regular key to turn on the car. But lane assist, el. parking, textil sests, auto hold, sign recognition its in all trim even in the lower ones! Motion trim heated seats front and back, parking sensors camera front and back, it has blindspot sensor but it dosen't have a blindspot camera, 18" wheels, two 10"displey screens, 2 usb in front seats, leather/textil seats, front power seats. Fresh is 25k $ Motion 30k$

[@rchatte100]

I've ordered one too Nicola 🙂 Great value car.

[@Laaracansever]

Seems that it is a decent price tag becauce you get an impressive tech and premium interior features for it. Premium brands’ similarly opted cars are about 50% more expensive. Kia also offers 7 years warranty. I am sure that Kia will exceed their sales targets easily in Europe.

[@paulwardzynski3265]

Nicola, great to see such commitment; well done!

[@dennislo1986]

Hi Nicola! The question is, do you still have your Sportage? I always look forward your reviews because I adore your bubbly personality. It's refreshing and fun! I have been a long time owner of VW and when they couldn't offer something worth upgrading to, I ventured to Kia and fell in love with the Sportage. I watched many reviews online but Auto Express is one that I always watch along with others. I decided to place my order for the GT Sportage. I was guttered that the yellow and orange were no longer available. However, I cannot wait to get my hands on the red which I also love. This is a handsome car! Hopefully it arrive Nov 2023.

[@Funkydood]

Nice acquisition! I got my better half a 2023 petrol one, and we both just love it! Two-and-a-half years of a flawless experience!

[@leel9186]

Mine arrived a few weeks back. Love it. Best car I have ever owned. Comfortable and easy to drive. Practical and fun.

[@Jupiter8Boy64]

what was that scratching/creeping noise when the cars self started? :-( 7:53 and 8:07

[@campo2309]

I have a new favourite car reviewer on KZbin. Thank you Nicola

[@mkanyuh]

That sportage interior is stunning...the front end was too busy for me so I got the Tucson...as you say...they are just pleasant to drive...not sporty exciting...but easy and pleasant, quiet and smooth...the safety tech is excellent and the rear seat room is great....you get so much for your money!!!

[@drose8007]

Hi Nicola. Wow what a review in fact for this GT line S this is the best review. Oh and i have ordered one about two and a half months ago and like you have to wait for it. I do have the out going Sportage and love it. So your review was excellent and I know exactly why you bought one !!! You are fair in your comments all round and others out there if they know the Sportage will be inspired by your review. Great job by you and thank you.

[@reeceanderson5318]

My last car was a BMW X1 m sport, after seeing the Sportage GT line S and ordering one I realised my BMW only had 1 feature really (heated seats) this Sportage blows it out the water on features and looks amazing in blue to🔥🔥🔥

[@AHoundOnAHonda]

In blue to what?

[@reeceanderson5318]

@@AHoundOnAHonda blue flame

[@AHoundOnAHonda]

@@reeceanderson5318 In blue to blue flame? You've lost me.

[@reeceanderson5318]

@@AHoundOnAHonda google Kia Sportage blue flame

[@AHoundOnAHonda]

@@reeceanderson5318 I know what blue flame is... i just don't get what "looks amazing in blue to blue flame" means.

[@Lensman3333]

Is te Apple Car Play/Android Auto wireless or do you need a cable?

[@paulrainford70]

Great review. I ordered one myself back in February.. but after initially being told April for delivery, it's now gone back twice, to August!!

[@mesmusics2012]

Lol, in January, we went to buy a Hyundai Tucson but we saw that new sportage next door, sat into it, loved the interior so much that we booked a test drive the following day. Test drived the Tucson as well but the interior of the kia was so much better that we bought the Petrol hybrid, Gt line S in that lovely red. Received it 3rd of March and loving it. I change car every 3 year but will probably keep this one longer. Looking forward to go on our first long journey in it this jubilee weekend. ATM getting 45mpg in small journeys (max 4 miles) which is amazing, was getting 32mpg on same journeys with our previous car (5008). Only negative point : I can't find how to disable that reversing sound. I leave at 5 am and feel bad for my neighbours that I must remember to park in reverse the previous day. Same with boot opening sound... Pleaee help

[@jimmeeGray]

Who would you want to reverse onto the roadway anyway, isn't it safer to see where you are going, especially from driveway to roadway?

[@daliladosanjos]

Thanks for sharing this. I’m going to book a test drive with Kia this week after watching the reviews here. I was set to get a bz4x Toyota but after the drop of temperature in the uk in giving up electric mode.😬 Thanks for sharing this x

[@PratabAli]

I think this Kia is gorgeous, and the red/black really nice. Looked at kia 3 yrs ago (stuck with Mazda at the time), but at the time Kia body styling was heavily borrowing design cues from other manufacturers, and the ride wasn't to my liking. Though the models I was looking at were packed full of tech. The recent Kia models have their own look and design language, though there are commonalities with other manufacturers (not in a bad way) If I was looking for a car now, I'd get this.

[@kf763]

You have no taste in cars bro if you find that Kia to be Gorgeous. The thing looks like a pass through a blender.

[@zareefhuda3430]

@@kf763 please suggest a few vehicles in this class which you think look better than this. I'm curious.

[@PratabAli]

@@kf763 each to their own...bro.

[@simonhobbs9097]

What colour combo did you go for?

[@matthewomalley5321]

The Kia Sportage has come on so much, the design, styling and everything is so much better and it's becoming very popular. Nicola Hume, you're an excellent reviewer! 👌👌👍

[@UltraJaff]

My dad saw the 2023 Niro and loved it so much he ordered one

[@derekpearce9046]

I've just bought a 22 plate Sportage HEV secondhand, same colour as this. I wanted the GT Line S but I really hated the idea of stumping up an extra £600 a year to our lovely government for excise licence because they cost over 40 grand new, but I went to test drive one anyway. Guess what, in 2022 the full-spec car retailed at £39,950, so no extra tax. Win! I chopped in my 2017 Sportage for it, and no regrets whatsoever. The review is smack-on, suits my requirements completely and is a lovely drive. If you're tempted but put off by the extra tax, find a 2022 reg! Nice review... in love with the car too!

[@SongmanKK]

The best car you can buy is one that makes you want to go out and drive it every day, and fits your daily needs of course. If a car cannot make you feel this way, then it's not the one for you. Nicola clearly found the right car for her, at this point in time.

[@alexandergoldman]

Nicola...you are an absolute GEM! I was smiling and your wonderful personality really shone through. Your passion, enthusiasm, knowledge and ability to explain important features was very much appreciated. Agree, this is a fantastic vehicle, tho I might spring for the Kia EV6 or Hyundai Ioniq 5 (or Genesis GV70 Electric SUV) as I will be trading in my Mazda CX-5 soon... Thank you and keep up the amazing work!

[@DanRussell-q8s]

I purchased a 2017 Kia SX Turbo for my wife because I wanted her to be as safe as she could be and now the 2024 models are out and I loved that they were even more safe than the 2017 plus much more stylish so I purchase her a new SX prestige model ! She loves it and I am happy because she is even safer than before !

[@stevewilliams6191]

Great review Nicola, couldn't agree more with what you say. I was hooked as soon as I saw one in the showroom! Ordered soon after test driving, the full hybrid '3' model. Gutted I've got to wait till September for it!

[@davethurley3006]

Had mine a month now, lucky one of the first. Her review is spot on.

[@nahidrahman]

But surely the PHEV is above the “full” hybrid which is self-charge only (as are the mild hybrids)

[@hovelad]

This is very much our front runner for our next car now we have a second grandchild on the way!

[@RodGardner]

Great video , yes one year on haha but when you are showing the boot its to dark to see :) but enjoyed the video

[@grahamhp]

Nicola great choice we had ours since 1st March the first 1.6 turbo mid hybrid GTS, a little tip for you, when changing from Temp to setting the panel with two knobs bless, hold the fan symbol for 15 seconds up will come another lot of signs choose the middle one, it then when using the fan and temp mode will automatically change back to car mode when finished, works really well, also I've added the "s" badge front and rear, after all it is a GTS nerdy but its the little things that make it, enjoy your ride we love it.

[@jeffreywhite7657]

Nicole....KIA should send you a sales referral check! I believe you are responsible for selling a few of these just on this one review. Nice job!

[@MrNodnarbius]

My girlfriend just bought one of these in the US; an X-Line trim. We have never owned a Kia before and wanted to try something different. After a couple issues through the dealer and actually securing the vehicle, we're happy to say, we really like it so far. It's got a couple of things that will bring themselves to bear if you look hard, but otherwise, it's really a competitor in this segment. We've had two CRVs and still have a Forester in the driveway. This new Sportage can hold its own (especially against the CRV). Definitely worth the wait AND the hassle!

[@frankyng4159]

I got the x pro I like it so far I just didn’t like the 5k mark up and additional warranty.

[@MrNodnarbius]

@@frankyng4159 We were very lucky. We were originally in line for an EX, but the dealership sold our reservation. Crazy though it may be, we opted for the X-Line AND they gave it to us for the same price as the EX. Obviously, this isn't a normal situation, but the end result was a welcome one. Just another illustration of the crazy times we're living in!

[@n4870s]

What is so good? The sound that the car made when it was moved remotely? :D

[@HiCZoK]

I got kia niro 2023 top trim just to have that remote control!!! hev version. Thanks to your reviews! both cars are quite similar feature wise!

[@brianhunt5353]

I was immensely impressed on your review Nicola much so I bought the GT line S mild hybrid what an incredible SUV I've always been a Mercedes customer but Kia has completely blown me away by it's looks and completely loaded with technology.

[@AnthonyWabo]

Man, the Sportage literally shelves the Hyundai Tucson in absolutely everything 😮

[@ioanmihai2306]

Good evening. Pls tell me what its your fuel consumption for this engine ?( pls its 1.6 ? )

[@binaryblog]

How would you compare Sportage to cx-5 when it comes to noise isolation and suspension? I know Mazda has double laminated glass on the sides and Sportage has not.

[@robw6505]

A beautiful, beautiful car. Was'nt sure at first with it's boomerang drl's, but, it has grown on me. We had the 3rd gen Sportage 1.7 diesel and we absolutely loved it, but, this one is way, way better. Had a test drive of the GT Line S and we've ordered one. I like the fact that the indicators are in the proper place and not down at the bumper and being a full hybrid it's the best of both worlds, no range anxiety for me, Can't wait for it to arrive and have a good play with it.❤👍👍

[@graycool]

I've ordered a gt line in white, wish I went for the GTS now

[@joshbacon8241]

I actually tweeted to the author of an Auto Express review on the new Sportage asking why the adaptive dampers offered in other markets wouldn’t be offered in the UK, and he said that - and I’m quoting directly here - “it's probably down to the UK market aiming for a certain price on the car and choosing the manufacturing variances accordingly.” So maybe that could be why?

[@Attu90]

Its probably to keep the price of most models under the Luxury tax threshold.

[@joshbacon8241]

@@Attu90 Most likely, as that also reflects what he said about the UK market choosing the variances on manufacturing to aim for a certain price on the car, which is understandable, given that in the UK, cars costing over £40,000 before any discounts and including optional extras are subject to an extra supplementary “luxury tax” on top of the standard tax rate.

[@XzzVttll]

of course. lowest range cars in serbia is not the same as in UK. why? 50x difference in salaries

[@bikeman123]

So the uk gets inferior spec but higher prices. What a surprise.

[@slater140778]

Love the 261 BHP you get in sport mode!! I’ve got the new 73 plate PHEV Gt line one in blue flame 🔥 most powerful car I’ve ever driven. Smoked a Audi A6 in it lol 😂 it’s so quick off the lights 🚦

[@alexdennison6265]

Ordered mine in may coming next month, went for the 1.6 diesel not sure if that’s mild hybrid or not but I honestly cannot wait for it to arrive!

[@chuckwalla2967]

I've never seen this color and must say that it looks stunning.

[@vanquishpurr]

I’ve ordered the Kia Sportage 3 which is the middle model. It’s got everything there GT line has plus extra. The specs go in this order 2, GT Lime, 3 GT Line S. I’m not paying an extra £6k for the top spec. I’m happy with the 3. Seems much better than the model I have now 20 plate Sportage 2. More gadgets. Dashboard looks fantastic and I’m getting the splash lemons. Really can’t wait. Might not come till October, November due to when Kia in Korea send orders over. Considering it may be a month or two late isn’t too bad as Land Rover can be a year!!!

[@blueranger777]

I visited the Kia dealer to test drive the EV6. However, delivery was going to be 12 months! I ended up buying a new Sportage PHEV GT-line (that's the top spec in Switzerland), 4x4 with all options. It is available next week and I can't wait after seeing Nicola's review.

[@simonthompson2764]

Ordered a Dawning Red Sx+. One under GT. No sun roof but in Australia with my bald head didn't think I'd use it. Hopefully deliver Feb.

[@2WheelsRoadTraveler]

Great review!.Keep up the good work!

[@Andrew-iq2zy]

Great review. Thank you. I need some help please......I ordered a Tuscon Ultimate PHEV in November. The delivery date has been put back (again to August). The Lease company have told me that they have a GT LINE Sportage available. Should I wait for the Tuscon or switch? Lease costs are very similar.

[@simonhobbs9097]

Which model did you buy?

[@mfpix]

I also bought the same model. Very impressive.

[@jamiebrown8811]

Ours arrives in november! After the test drive it was a no brainer!

[@0farmerjohn0]

I have narrowed down my choices to replace my 2016 A4 Avant. It's between the Sportage and the CX5. The Mazda just feels good to drive but the interior is getting really old. The Sportage is just beautiful inside and out. Not as engaging to drive as the Mazda but with a baby in the back. I think it just doesn't matter. In the end it will come down to which one gives me the best offer.

[@Space-O-2001]

My brain goes if you're driving an SUV engaging isn't really in the top criteria. I ditched our Sportage for a Optima Estate as needed more room and as with all Kia GT lines the options and finish are exceptional for the money.

[@sveronih5376]

Hope it’s better than my 2021. I traded it in due to sputtering and RPM’ s going up with a big delay when I stepped on the gas pedal. Then the screen kept going black. Only 14,000 miles, feel I dodged a big problem on its way.

[@ianpearce6179]

Bought a new Sportage JBL version nearly 2 years ago and have had endless problems including loss of power on motorways due to electrical and mechanical failure - customer care hopeless. Changing back to Nissan as had 9 reliable years with them.

[@TilenTMtube]

We baught the Bayon, middle trim and it has all the Kia/Hyundai tech inside. The lane keep is really good, auto emergency break works great. Wireless android /apple. Seat and steering wheel heating, all digital cluster, sport mode, etc. All for 22k Euros. With dealer discount, it was 19,5k. Hyundai / Kia have really come a long way and are among the best now!

[@Chrisohkorea]

Great review and nice car !! Congrats Auto Express. You just got one more subscriber~

[@AOI1601]

Which trim sportage did you order

[@hewi7062]

i live in sweden and recently ordered the latest sportage in white color (phev 265hp) of equipment model advance. I have 3 children and a dog and think this car will suit us perfectly. will be interesting to see how much the consumption will be with a phev. thank you for a fantastic review and you made choosing a car much easier. Henrik, Sweden

[@freshtowels3917]

when the reviewer buys the car their reviewing you know the car is good. As someone who is one their fourth Kia, I can tell you they are great cars and I will buy this Sportage or the Kia k5 shortly.

[@nishawatson2084]

How long do kids engines last? How many miles have gotten?

[@alexandergoldman]

Hyundai / Kia / Genesis have the best headlight game in the business. The Hyundai Tucson has probably the most distinctive headlights, the boomerang on the Kia is so unique and well executed and the Genesis double bars are so slick and elegant. I'm sure these Hyundai Group designers are being paid well because it's a small detail, but worth every penny..

[@richgl31]

Great reviewer- really natural and knowledgeable. I’m having one of these at the end of the year I think. Not sure about that creaky noise though when starting off!… hopefully not too irritating irl.

[@martyngulliman3985]

Think you’ll be lucky if it arrives in 4 months. I’ve ordered the AWD GTLine S in Feb and being told Sept to Nov delivery at the earliest

[@peterwarwyk7860]

I was looking at a 9 month wait for a new GT-line but then my dealer called. Apparently a deal fell over and they offered that vehicle to me. It was a change of colour to Junglewood but it cut my wait to 2 weeks. Win!

[@saw20]

For someone who made very clear that hates touch screen climate controls and loves buttons and dials (with which I agree 100%), I am surprised you bought a car that has exactly what you hate.

[@robertstorey7476]

Despite the OTT delivery this is actually a very good concise review.

[@clairebrookes2081]

Dear lord!! I pick mine up this week....I CANNOT WAIT

[@stargate25645]

Any information on the highway mileage specifically at 75mph/120kph and above, especially in the hybrid?

[@hemenkareamg6957]

What is "jul screen"?

[@ivanborg5581]

a very convincing video i must say. well done Nicole. tell us more about the PHEV tech of it pls...

[@MykelC]

My HEV gt line s awd has just arrived. Absolutely love it..

[@markmjames66mj]

What's that funky creeking noise when you use the remote to park???

[@lazypanda1493]

The rear end of the European version sportage looks so much better than the longer wheel based version we have here in Australia, it looks a lot smarter

[@MiniEggs1999]

I definitely want to see Nicola review a Cateram

[@nicolahume]

Oooooh me too!😉

[@marvinoigiangbe900]

Can't take my eyes off the British Airways 747 in the background. Such a beauty!

[@Chris.P.Noodle]

Try that eyeliner trick in the Seat ateca, and you'll come out looking like Alice Cooper.

[@liamphillips3753]

That the top gear test track?

[@benadamsondxb]

For so long I've really not liked SUVs like these (or faux-by-fours, as I've called them on occasion), but this one is something else. I think I may have just found my next car. It looks fantastic, and the equipment levels look amazing.

[@41yearoldnewdriver]

I like the Kia Sportage. What is the price of the Kia Sportage? Can I get a new one for twenty something grand?

[@welshlad6427]

My next car. Love it ❤ 🚗

[@Lets-ask1215]

Is it the top gear test track?🤔

[@NoriSoyjoy]

The Kia Sportage GT line was the first new car I bought in 12 years. They never explained about the petrol cars having a PPF for emissions. The warning lights came on at 800 miles in and I was told to drive fast at low gear, high revs until the warning went off. It never did. They waived the diagnostic fee the first time and couldn’t tell me if I would get charged again if it came back on. I’m not a distance driver, hence the petrol choice. The car is a lovely drive but this has really put me off.

[@andrewfoster1316]

well done you on buying a kia sportage there good cars. your review on the kia ceed propted me to get a test drive and yes same day i ordered one but jst the trim 3 didnt warrant the gt line you tested just a waiting game so all your reviews do make people buy the car or at least test drive first. great reviews

[@rohiniramanchakrabarti5282]

Don’t want to sound silly, but is this Sportage smaller than the US Sportage?

[@snoopycharlie8718]

Would love to know the long-term reliability and how irritating the reversing beep noise gets living with it every day. Our neighbor's Kia turned us off ever getting a Kia because of that reverse bong bong bong.

[@Somethingaboutthat]

LOL you can turn it off. It's an option in the settings menu.

[@snoopycharlie8718]

@@Somethingaboutthat Wrong - certainly not the case on the Niro. Have to unplug a module behind front bumper which voids warranty.

[@Somethingaboutthat]

@@snoopycharlie8718 I’m guessing Kia has different options for the rear backup beep based on laws in your locations.

[@snoopycharlie8718]

@@Somethingaboutthat Europe. Most cars don't have a reverse beep, even electric. Which is why this one is infuriating. Though, it does seem it's been made quieter after the car was serviced. Thankfully!

[@operationsoperations5515]

What do you mean by full hybrid? Or you mean fully electric !

[@RakeshD-vw2ij]

Seems you are exited with your car!! congratulations and enjoy the ride!!

[@quinty26]

Let's see how long that engine and drivetrain holds up.

[@Ian-ev5tg]

Been some really bad issues with the mild hybrid if you read the forums. Also. Is this the top gear track?

[@asadullahjawid428]

There’s a strange noise coming from brakes probably when you want to move it with remote key control. Kia should fix it and it’s also noticeable when you push the brake in slow speed and you can hear the noise . I am willing to buy 2023 Kia Sportage plug-in hybrid soon but this my only concerns .

[@Greggiexplore]

Kia and Hyundai apparently have engine problems (Class action was won in USA) So really how long lasting those engines are??????

[@NextGenGamer1]

In Europe they are very reliable. I drive one for 9 years, 0 problems. 2.0 CRDI 185hp. Just ordered the new one. People also mainly drive the 1.7 CRDI with 115hp, it's also super reliable and the most common option. But in USA they use different engines and I personally don't like your versions, most of these cars aren't as reliable in USA. The same way Volkswagen is the most reliable piece of machinery you can get here, but in USA it's a joke since they don't use the same components. So, yeah, I think especially Theta KIA engines in USA aren't as reliable.

[@yedum321]

Why did you edit when applying the make up.

[@crimsonpirate1710]

Im the interest of transparency i want to know are they letting you have the car for a hefty discount??? You must tell people if this is the case.