Automated Hydrogen Generator

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Hyperspace Pirate

Hyperspace Pirate

7 ай бұрын

In this video I'll show how I built my Hydrogen gas generator using electrolysis of a 10% Sodium Hydroxide solution with 316 stainless steel electrodes. Unlike an "HHO" generator, this cell separates the hydrogen from the oxygen, so it can be collected in a tank for later use. In the video, I demonstrate its usefulness as a lifting gas for a camera-carrying balloon, but my ultimate goal is to liquify it with a cryocooler at -252C or use it as a working fluid in a stirling cycle to serve as a cheap and plentiful substitute for helium. I'm also interested in using it to manufacture synthetic methane by combining it with CO2 in a process known as the Sabatier reaction.
The theoretical voltage required to separate water by electrolysis is 1.23V, but in reality it will end up being 1.5-2.0 volts, depending on the electrolyte and electrode chemistry, as well as cell temperature. In order to maximize efficiency and minimize the occurance of heating and side reactions, the voltage on a cell should be kept as low above this threshold as possible. Most industrial devices have a cell voltage somewhere between 2.2-2.5 volts. The efficiency of electrolysis is approximately the threshold voltage divided by the cell voltage.
The calculation to approximate hydrogen production rate is:
Liters per hour = V_threshold * Current * 3600 / 287,000 * 24
The production rate of oxygen gas is half this amount.
One potential pitfall of hydrogen storage in pressure vessels or use as a working fluid in cryocoolers / heat engines is the tendency for atomic hydrogen to work its way into the crystal lattice of metals and cause it to become brittle, similar to how adding carbon to steel makes it more brittle. Supposedly this can be mitigated by ensuring the hydrogen gas is totally dry, and aluminum / copper seem to be far less affected by this issue than steel.
It's important to remember that if you're using stainless steel electrodes, over a long period of time, they can degrade and release toxic chromium salts into the electrolyte, some of which may be the hexavalent (Cr6+) form of Chromium. This electrolyte can't be dumped down the drain. To dispose of it properly, you need to evaporate the water and deliver the precipitate to a hazardous waste disposal site.
Aqueous solution conductivity chart:
pdfs.semanticscholar.org/cbc5...
Music Used:
Fortaleza - Topher Mohr and Alex Elena

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@elchupacabra555
@elchupacabra555 7 ай бұрын
A small mistake i caught. Sievert (Sv) is the unit of radiation exposure risk. What you meant would be Siemens (S) which is the unit of conductance.
@BloodyMobile
@BloodyMobile 7 ай бұрын
I was already wondering, Sv "sounded" wrong, but I didn't know the actual unit to be sure. But then again, I won't be surprised when a later project causes Sv's xD
@TotesCray
@TotesCray 7 ай бұрын
Can also use "mho"
@prakharmishra3000
@prakharmishra3000 7 ай бұрын
yes i also use semens as a unit of conductance
@drosphiliamelanogaster3755
@drosphiliamelanogaster3755 7 ай бұрын
yup
@TheLastCrankers
@TheLastCrankers 7 ай бұрын
Okay, good I thought I was going crazy for a second there lmao, had to bust out the good old wolfram alfa
@HyperspacePirate
@HyperspacePirate 7 ай бұрын
Apparently I was half-asleep when I was recording the audio for this video and mixed up Sieverts and Siemens. Also, for those wondering, Part III of the Joule-Thomson cryocooler series is in the works and should be the next video.
@imikla
@imikla 7 ай бұрын
You should have seen me frantically googling to make sure I wasn't the one half-asleep! 😂
@lumotroph
@lumotroph 6 ай бұрын
Dude… can we have… plans?
@zenile7087
@zenile7087 6 ай бұрын
Dear HyperspacePirate, Many many thanks for these hi-ranked technical videos, it seems useful to support you, maybe with a Discord fan server; some tip-n-tricks exists with easier hydrogen storage as a gas; via magnesium or titanium hydrides, maybe lodging a "cold trap" for catching mist and moisture prior to any storage could be a part of cascade devices; enhancing the recovery of liquid water from time to time. Many many thanks also for giving us ideas and know-how; maybe you will have to enhance your brazings, weldings, making apparatuses from stainless steel pipes with spinning forming lathes... maybe making/modify some Dewar devices. Nitrogen is mandatory for protecting austenitic stainless steels; especially when heated, it's better than argon : nitrogen helps the austenite to exist at ambient or cryogenic temperatures. But nitrogen cannot be used for electric welding, because of tungsten ability to react forming tungsten nitrides. Which gives crumbling ceramic and a powerful electric isolant, thus forbidding welding via electricity. So it's better to apply nitrogen inside stainless steel vessels, and very pure argon outside. Only some parts per million of other gases are allowed; as pollutants, that will volor stainless steel on a proportional scale. The more colorful, the worse it is; as titanium welding charts also. Maybe you could make a "call of help" about the minimum quality of vacuum needed to ensure thermal insulation, between two stainless steel parts, it could be VERY useful. Looking for at least 10^-4 bar of residual pressure ? With a small CNC lathe it seems possible to obtain corrugated/ondulated stainless steel pipe from common thermos flasks; making tools and dies for embossing stainless steel; then ensuring brazing without silver, without tin, just copper+phosphorus with pure argon protective atmosphère, modern IGBT transistors can help for induction-assisted brazing copper on stainless steel, using Wood's nickel dichloride and muriatic acid melange for activating stainless steel (via few atomic layer deposited of nickel onto stainless steel), prior to copper coating/brazing, with wand brush electroless déposition technique. Warning : all salts and nickel compounds are also proven carcinogens. Please consider the usefulness of chinese little oxygen concentrators : they provide almost pure oxygen at 95% purity, enhancing argon concentration (close to 95%, nature availability is 0,93%) and reject ...nitrogen at very interesting concentrations; at 7 liters/hour for a ~$300 unit... that could be an advanced tinkering idea for making LN2, and also welding activities via enriched argon which is easier to liquefy at atmospheric pressures.. These units are using mobile piston and cylinder made of pure copper, which allows oil-free compressors to work with almost pure oxygen without instant burst/wild combustion. Best regards from a crumbling France.
@zenile7087
@zenile7087 6 ай бұрын
And always remember : NEVER place on stainless steel a solution containing chlorure ions, at 50 ppm they allows a terrible autocatalytic corrosion phenomenon, the pitting corrosion which is impossible to stop. Molybdenum addition can provide enhanced pitting resistance (called PREN score, Pitting Resistance Equivalent Number). Always keep away from halogens when using stainless steels, the proximity of beaches / maritime climate can be an issue. Muriatic acid and chlorides should stay WELL away from your systems; they can attack even bronze alloys, on a irreversible manner. Wishing you the very best, maybe you will send us meme-painted balloons ^^' Always remember to protect stainless steel areas with vinyl tape, rinsing Wood's nickel reactant just after activation. Hope this will help to apply completely airtight/vacuum-grade assemblies.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 2 ай бұрын
This comment should be pinned, so people can stop mentioning the Sievert thing.
@vipondiu
@vipondiu 6 ай бұрын
This channel has the right mix of engineering, craftmanship, memes and danger. I arrived here because of the joule-thompson video, but every video I watch is a bigger surprise than the last one. Keep pumping these out, man! And be careful!
@yazmeliayzol624
@yazmeliayzol624 6 ай бұрын
Same video cued me up for space rum too...
@UsefulElectrons-ni1fq
@UsefulElectrons-ni1fq 6 ай бұрын
The implementation of memes is on point
@Nuovoswiss
@Nuovoswiss 6 ай бұрын
The relationship between voltage, current, efficiency, and time in electrochemistry is insanely complicated. I took some graduate-level courses on it and would be happy to share some of that if you want to pursue it further. The relationship between current and heating is not monotonic, but depends strongly on efficiency, which you can increase with stirring or agitation to move fluid between the electrodes. Might be tricky to do this without moving gas bubbles around, but it makes a world of different. Also consider using carbon fiber weave as a high-surface area anode that doesn't put chromium into solution. And you can nickel-plate carbon fiber for a more efficient cathode.
@awesomecronk7183
@awesomecronk7183 6 ай бұрын
How well does the carbon fiber weave hold up over time? I once used a piece of pencil graphite and it dissolved in a half hour or less. Not sure how much energy was being pushed through it though, I used tap water without mixing a solution (this was several years ago, I wasn't very knowledgable at all about this at the time)
@Nuovoswiss
@Nuovoswiss 6 ай бұрын
@@awesomecronk7183 Carbon fiber holds up much better than pencil graphite, except in really corrosive/oxidizing environments (ie, making sodium metal from lye electrolysis). In those cases, the much higher specific surface area of the fiber works against it. Also using tap water instead of a concentrated electrolyte solution would require higher overvoltages for a given current, which put more stress on the electrodes.
@awesomecronk7183
@awesomecronk7183 6 ай бұрын
@@Nuovoswiss Good to know, thank you
@N.M.E.
@N.M.E. 6 ай бұрын
@@awesomecronk7183 Pencil graphite is usually mixed with clay to produce the different lead hardnesses. I'm guessing that also played a role in your electrode disintegrating quickly and probably also having poor efficiency. Graphite rods from heavy duty zinc-carbon batteries work well!
@yasirrakhurrafat1142
@yasirrakhurrafat1142 6 ай бұрын
@@N.M.E. egg xact lie. Carbon felt works ok as well I think.
@almfreak
@almfreak 7 ай бұрын
I used to work in an industry where we used electrolysis. We used Ruthenium-Iridium coated Titanium electrodes and potted over the electrical connections where the ring connectors were screwed to the plates. For a home-made setup, you could probably just use titanium which is less conductive, but should last longer and keep you from producing chromium salts from the stainless steel.
@matthewellisor5835
@matthewellisor5835 7 ай бұрын
I like the idea and would be easily available as backpacking cups and pots in convenient shapes and sizes. Switching from Cr to V (and probably Al) contamination will significantly (but not entirely) reduce concerns of toxicity. Still, I'll deal with V+4 over Cr+6 any day of the week. Anyone with better chemistry knowledge than this home educated guy, with no credentials, from memory, please point out my errors.
@Gersberms
@Gersberms 6 ай бұрын
What about carbon rods? Easy to get from zinc/carbon batteries too.
@Xsiondu
@Xsiondu 6 ай бұрын
I said the same thing before I saw your comment. I hope he sees our comments and any others and adjust his process accordingly. Have a wonderful everything!
@iBlue0riginal
@iBlue0riginal 6 ай бұрын
Titanium oxidizes quickly to titanium dioxide which is non-conductive and firmly adheres, so the electrolysis would come to a stop. That's why its coated. Carbon works, but tends to crumble. Nickel works well.
@user-xe8oi5oq6c
@user-xe8oi5oq6c 6 ай бұрын
@@iBlue0riginal people say that chrome-free stainless steel also works well. Or plain carbon steel as a cheapo expendable solution.
@unintentionallydramatic
@unintentionallydramatic 7 ай бұрын
I love how this is all on one plate. Engineering isn't just about what but also how.
@_kalia
@_kalia 7 ай бұрын
It might work to pump the hydrogen into a gasometer in the first stage (where any stray liquid coming through should fall into the water at the bottom of the gasometer) instead of a balloon/beach ball, and then have the drying chamber between the gasometer and compressor to remove any moisture gained from the gasometer before long-term storage. Should be much easier to automate than a balloon since you can just sense the height of the gasometer.
@WaffleStaffel
@WaffleStaffel 6 ай бұрын
Good idea. NightHawkInLight made one out of chimney pipe- kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5nJq6Gro7utgbs
@orlandotech
@orlandotech 6 ай бұрын
A more efficient way to go about it would be to make a refrigerated gas drier. He has a ton of various pieces/ parts of refrigeration equipment and seems to be quite handy with constructing devices with those parts. He could copy a similar unit that’s been around for a while in heavy commercial/ industrial settings called a compressed air drier. It basically has a refrigerated heat exchanger that possibly is as simple as a coax heat exchanger design that are used in swimming pool heat pumps or a “water source” heat pump (heat pump AC unit with a water cooled condenser coil. Have the harvested/ produced gas crossflow over a cold plate or through a refrigerated tube that has the collected moisture dump into some sort of catch can. There may be some way of bubbling the dried hydrogen through an oil bath as a final dry stage that hopefully doesnt change or compromise the purity/ create a dangerous compound. If it could be done safely and be inert to the hydrogen, the moisture would stay at the bottom of the oil bath and be pulled out of the dried hydrogen as it passes along to the collection ballon. The trapped water layer could be released through a tube that’s in the water and out to the atmosphere using a solenoid valve and some of his homemade level control pins and a simple timer. With refrigeration units we sometimes need a delay on make type or a delay on break type of timer. They’re available in a fully adjustable version where the time delay is set with a large dip switch bank. Anyway, some or all of that I just said may be over complicating things but the basics of using a refrigerated air (or hydrogen) drier would speed up or make the process more efficient and make a higher purity.
@themadcow8191
@themadcow8191 4 ай бұрын
Have you tried sticking plastic parts together with friction welding? My favorite way to stick 3d printed parts together is to put a piece of filament in the chuck of a dremel, turn it on, and trace slowly over the seams with it. The friction gently melts the filament into the seams, forming a super strong bond. Unlike a soldering iron, the dremel actually deposits fresh plastic, rather than just melting the plastic that's already there, and it causes a lot less damage to the printed surfaces. Also, the result looks just like welded metal, which is super cool.
@einmariusimnetz
@einmariusimnetz 2 ай бұрын
need to try that! Thanks for the idea
@xs1l3n7x
@xs1l3n7x Ай бұрын
Pretty cool
@Manawyrm
@Manawyrm 6 ай бұрын
Just FYI, a flyback diode and maybe a 100n snubber cap (like a ceramic capacitor), across the pump motor might help to reduce interference/electrical noise and might also keep the MOSFET alive in the long run. Very cool project, I've been wanting to build a similar setup for RC ballooning for a while :)
@Flumphinator
@Flumphinator 6 ай бұрын
RC… ballooning? Interesting.
@arsenelupiniii8040
@arsenelupiniii8040 6 ай бұрын
Build a rigid zeppelin!
@MrGamma-zq9ze
@MrGamma-zq9ze 6 ай бұрын
I built a 3kw hho torch a few years ago. I had a lot of trouble with the stainless steel anodes oxidizing (probably because I was using a much higher current and voltage to get a higher instantaneous production). If you are looking for a better material for the anode, I recommend nickel. It works really well in basic conditions. I replaced the stainless steel anodes in my system with nickel plated mild steel, and they work great, although figuring out nickel plating was a project by itself.
@davey2k12
@davey2k12 6 ай бұрын
Bro he plated mild steal the battery connections are thin as hell and not pure nickel you would use lots and lots it probably cost lots too 😂
@johnslugger
@johnslugger 5 ай бұрын
All you need is baking soda, DI water and Cold rolled steel electrodes and it will last FOREVER. Stainless has Chrome which is WAY too reactive!!
@TheTemporalAnomaly
@TheTemporalAnomaly 7 ай бұрын
In the past I needed a supply of hydrogen on tap and looked towards electrolysis to provide it. For the `membrane` I used a large (10inch) ceramic (red) plant pot and the electrodes were 316 grade stainless cones, one on the inside, one on the outside. Neg electrode was on the inside, h2 came out of the plant pot hole. The plant pot being totally submerged, saturated with electrolyte, allowed transfer of ions, but disallowed migration of gases. The gas (h2) was collected in much the same way as your system, with a pump to empty the collecting jar. Doing things this way mean a lot smaller distance between electrodes, hence much lower resistance. The h2 purity was more than good enough for my purposes, (shielding gas for making vacuum tube cathodes) I hope this helps. This was the only way I found to get the resistance low enough for acceptable performance with everyday materials. Chris, UK.
@zeph0shade
@zeph0shade 4 ай бұрын
I've only seen a few hydrogen generator diy builds, but this is definitely the best output to size ratio I've seen so far! Very cool
@zebdeming
@zebdeming 6 ай бұрын
My Dad made something similar using a 55 gallon drum and a smaller plastic drum, the outer electrode was the steel drum and the inner electrode was stainless that was inside the plastic drum. Power source was a self excited alternator on a homemade wind turbine. He had no use for the H2, but just liked tinkering around. Dude had his issues, but there are parts of him that I miss being around. Thanks for the trigger to an old memory
@teresashinkansen9402
@teresashinkansen9402 6 ай бұрын
Be careful recovering the hydrogen from the balloon, due different gas concentrations there might be an osmotic difference great enough that could make air diffuse into the balloon increasing oxygen levels. All depends about the gas permeability of the balloon and the time but still be careful.
@fishyerik
@fishyerik 6 ай бұрын
My dad gave me a latex balloon with hydrogen to me when I was a kid. Obviously I set fire to it when it wasn't lighter than air anymore, as you do, and I got a surprisingly loud and distinct bang, with distinct "waves" of echoes.
@kaerajpetera
@kaerajpetera 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting, balloon materials being permeable?
@orlandotech
@orlandotech 6 ай бұрын
@@kaerajpeterayes most materials like plastics and rubbers are permeable. That’s why helium balloons start to lose their shape after awhile and sink. A simple rubber hose really can’t be used long term for refrigerants as the molecules will leak out, more so as the hose material ages due to heat and exposure.
@Joemama555
@Joemama555 6 ай бұрын
lol, was just going to post that, good someone already did! reference: "Cody'sLab Self Inflating Balloons?! "
@danpham8806
@danpham8806 5 ай бұрын
Pure hydrogen don't explode, just burn. explosion due to oxygen mixed with hydrogen.
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 2 ай бұрын
I really appreciate how you explained the math out loud instead of just showing it on the screen. Really makes it a lot easier for your blind viewers. Thanks! And great project! I heard about a guy who was using solar power to split hydrogen from water, fill tanks, and then use a hydrogen powered generator to run his home off grid, or at least partially off grid. I thought that was a really clever idea, especially if there was some more convenient way to do the hydrolysis. I also like the whole weather balloon thing.
@pyroandy3128
@pyroandy3128 2 ай бұрын
I think it will always be more efficient to store the electricity (in batteries) and skip a another set of conversion steps that introduce inefficiencies.
@gaggix7095
@gaggix7095 2 ай бұрын
​​@@pyroandy3128 I imagine they are producing hydrogen for winter
@mightyconker3903
@mightyconker3903 2 ай бұрын
Blind listeners
@goober-ll1wx
@goober-ll1wx 7 ай бұрын
Just the right amount of cutting-edge science and bodging!
@SteamX64
@SteamX64 7 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Just a small correction: conduction unit is siemens, not sieverts. Radiation dose is measured is sieverts.
@senorjp21
@senorjp21 7 ай бұрын
Great cell design. You can use ABS plumbing cement to solvent weld ABS parts together.
@LuxGamer16
@LuxGamer16 6 ай бұрын
Or use aceton. Thats what a lot of people in the 3d printing community use
@orlandotech
@orlandotech 6 ай бұрын
I believe he was trying to avoid a potential reaction with the acid solution he was using. Silicone sealants are pretty inert to most things once cured but the plastic welding is probably the best way besides creating it out of one piece
@systemloc
@systemloc 7 ай бұрын
One of my absolutely favorite channels. I tried doing the Aluminum reaction too. Never got as far as doing electrolysis. This is really amazing. Looking forward to the continuation of the Joule-Thompson cooler as well. Go get some heavy gauge wire for your current wires, and stay away from any Sieverts!
@theCodyReeder
@theCodyReeder 6 ай бұрын
Very nice! If you need advice or just want to talk hydrogen generators hit me up.
@delawarecop
@delawarecop Ай бұрын
Hoping that bubbles will release from Conductors and float upward, is way too slow for efficient production of Browns Gas. A simple solution is to use a Twin 10" Water Filter Housing from any Hardware Store, with 2 x Extruded Carbon Filters (preferably Silver Impregnated), which have wires attached with conductive Glue, and connected to a 30kHz PWM driver circuit. The Electrolyte is pumped through the Filters using a brushless DC water Pump, into a recovery chamber where gases can be extracted under vacuum, before the electrolyte is circulated through the filters continuously. The average surface area of a 10" Water Filter is approx 4000 square meters, which allows electrolyte to remain in constant contact with the conductive carbon filters, and the flow created by the brushless DC Pump ensures that any gases are constantly being removed. A brushless DC vacuum pump is not essential, but will improve the efficiency of the entire system and accelerate gas recovery from electrolyte returning to recovery chamber.
@natheyshiro4119
@natheyshiro4119 Ай бұрын
​@@delawarecopcan you create a simple show case video or album? I'm curious about it but have a hard time imagining it from a comment and I also would love to know if you have a working prototype :)
@delawarecop
@delawarecop Ай бұрын
@@natheyshiro4119 - I did a working prototype in 2006 in my garage, ut that was 2 houses ago. I do have components here to build another, but am tied up with other projects atm. You don't need to visualize it, just get a stock photo of a twin water filter housing, a brushless DC water pump, and a clear plastic container sitting beside it as the storage for water electrolyte, with enough space above the water level as gas recovery - and you have the basic principle.
@Swi55Milk
@Swi55Milk 6 ай бұрын
Hexchrome is most dangerous as an inhalant, so when allowing the water to evaporate do not let the residue become completely dry, dispose of it as a slury and wear a n95 during handing. :)
@ericlotze7724
@ericlotze7724 7 ай бұрын
1:24 *In USCSB Video Presenter Voice* “They thought a Faceshield wasn’t needed, this assumption proved to be deadly”
@Fir3Chi3f
@Fir3Chi3f 6 ай бұрын
I can't believe how well these videos are made on top of containing so much information!
@prakharmishra3000
@prakharmishra3000 7 ай бұрын
i think this is the first electrolysis setup ive seen on yt producing pure hyrdrogen, great job!
@putteslaintxtbks5166
@putteslaintxtbks5166 6 ай бұрын
One thing could help in two ways is use of a thermostat to cycle the electrolysis off when temp. is above a set level. This would keep it in a more efficient range and keep evaporation down, less to remove. Though this might increase the time to make x volume, it might be worth a longer run if time isn't real critical.
@LK-py1nb
@LK-py1nb 7 ай бұрын
Heck yah, been waiting for an update! Love this backyard garage science series. Been interested in cryo-cooling since talking with a presenter at defcon 30. Keep up the great work, and thanks for sharing your trials and tribulations.
@HobbesNJoe
@HobbesNJoe 6 ай бұрын
I always love watching your videos! Thanks for bringing us along on your discovery process!
@alden1132
@alden1132 6 ай бұрын
As a kid, we used to make hydrogen, and fill garbage bags with it. Then, we'd tie long strips of paper or fuse with a firecracker, light them, and let them go. They'd go WAY up in the air, then burst into a huge fireball. It was awesome, especially at night!
@richardmarkham8369
@richardmarkham8369 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic video. Clear, concise and to the point, with a dash of humor. Can't wait for the next one!
@tomings7071
@tomings7071 5 ай бұрын
Like 95-99% of this went completely over my head but I appreciate how you also talk about potential risks and how to mitigate and safety dispose of stuff
@chrischristen8904
@chrischristen8904 6 ай бұрын
Your videos are, by far, the most interesting I've seen. I work at an industrial processing facility as well as run my own processes at home for fun and you've inspired me a ton to work on my projects.
@EtherTheReal
@EtherTheReal 6 ай бұрын
As a soon to be engineer im amazed at how much you know about not only what you need but also what pitfalls there are, proper practice, hazards and a general understanding of almost all of what you use. Whats your background and do you do research on the stuff beforehand or where did you learn what you know nowadays? It seems very effortless
@yasirrakhurrafat1142
@yasirrakhurrafat1142 6 ай бұрын
This guy sometimes even teases us with us wanting an efficient solution or method.. while he builds the very poor design thing. Only to improve the thing tenfold in the follow up.
@EtherTheReal
@EtherTheReal 6 ай бұрын
@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 ikr😭 im like "wait this is not a good solution, how why what is going on😨 😂
@yasirrakhurrafat1142
@yasirrakhurrafat1142 6 ай бұрын
@@EtherTheReal lol. This guy definitely is sadistic. Likes to know that we are suffering. That's also why we love him. And for the memes. LoL.
@sophiophile
@sophiophile 6 ай бұрын
The chemistry of a Nafion/PEM style electrolysis cell is completely different. It involves the doping of the polymer membrane with superacid terminations to allow H+ currents to flow freely through the membranes, instead of electron currents running the other way. Thats why they don't use a solution with ions present, they actually use 18 MOhm pure water. Either way, they are expensive, but super convenient/compact/lightweight/etc. I have one that I use to feed hydrogenation reactions.
@ericlotze7724
@ericlotze7724 6 ай бұрын
Now you have me intrigued! 1.) Where did you end up getting yours and 2.) What type of reactions are you doing (If you don’t mind sharing of course)
@bradchambers4229
@bradchambers4229 4 ай бұрын
check fuel cell store@@ericlotze7724
@electricveg
@electricveg 6 ай бұрын
For safety maybe include an inline oxygen absorber. There are iron-based scavenger packets designed for the purpose but hand warmers work too. Alternatively, a bit of platinum would catalytically form water and have the benefit of not needing replacement over time. Probably set this up before your silica trap.
@MusicBent
@MusicBent 6 ай бұрын
This series has been my favorite on KZbin in a long time. If you ever get to liquid helium in your garage, I’d be just as impressed as when I saw Ben from applied science make his SEM in his.
@EngrEd567
@EngrEd567 6 ай бұрын
Hyperspace Pirate, thank you for such a thorough yet succinct and well-reasoned presentation! If only All technical project presentations were this well done!!
@Ivan.Wright
@Ivan.Wright 6 ай бұрын
I love your work man, always really cool detailed projects with ever increasing quality. I have some suggestions for possible improvements that you may or may not have considered. Temperature sensor in the cell to avoid thermal runaway or to simply remain under a set temp. You could also use a simple optimization algorithm to balance power input and temperature. A humidity sensor on the output of the dryer bottle to halt the system and alert you when you need to replace your silica beads. A flow sensor to log output, though you could just calibrate your vessel and count each time you evacuate it. My most expensive idea is a radiator to exhaust heat, it would be hard to get the right parts for that though. Actually, a coiled stainless pipe could act as either your anode or cathode and you can run your coolant through it. Two birds with one stone on that one. Anyway, keep up the great work! Can't wait to see what you build next
@janmp2148
@janmp2148 7 ай бұрын
I am speechless. Never have i seen such a Neat and functional H-Generator, in a DIY kind of way. It is such a Entertaining and informative video that my only real criticism are the Sievert(sv) and Simens(s) mistake. If i ever want to make an H-Generator, i will shamelessly copy your design. Have a Nice day and make great videos however long they take.
@N.M.E.
@N.M.E. 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for linking to the conductivity table!
@mattlee3044
@mattlee3044 5 ай бұрын
What a fantastic, high-paced video ! Really enjoyed it. Learned loads, too. Matt Lee
@trey1531
@trey1531 7 ай бұрын
This is a really clever design! I used to help launch balloons in college. We used an amateur radio system called APRS to track the balloon.
@mer9706
@mer9706 6 ай бұрын
Industry minimum V is around 1.43v. I think they are also using that voltage as the baseline for efficiency calcs. The promising workaround for zero gap sans Nafion, etc., is PES (polyethersulfone) filtration membranes and probably nickel foam electrodes sandwiched between bipolar plates of Ti, with a goal of around 2v and below. That def wont look nearly as cool, however 😁
@boltonky
@boltonky 6 ай бұрын
Stuff like this always interests me and its potential to be used for lots of different things, the big thing is being safe.
@mikeissweet
@mikeissweet 6 ай бұрын
Loving these projects, and the way you edit your videos. Keep up the good work!
@nucleochemist
@nucleochemist 6 ай бұрын
Just a heads up with silica gel, it will remove a lot of moisture but not all of it. If you want to remove all of you'll need to use some 3A molecular sieves in a second bottle, or P2O5 chamber, or bubble through 98% sulfuric, or use a cryogenic cooler to condense it all.
@sebastian.salmhofer
@sebastian.salmhofer 6 ай бұрын
It's Siemens, not Sieverts
@bodimullen5204
@bodimullen5204 6 ай бұрын
I am VERY glad that you are pursuing this in particular, I wanted to see solutions for production and storage of hydrogen for a while now, because I wanted to experiment with the prospect of using it as a battery. What I can contribute to you is a much more efficient (as far as my VERY limited understanding knows) electrolyzer. The dry cell is the idea that you sandwich a number of plates extremely close together. One proposed to be even better is a model by Hysata, those should be available in 2025.
@tontsa132
@tontsa132 6 ай бұрын
Amazing project! So nicely done with all special features and automation and 3D printed parts 😍
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 6 ай бұрын
I've thought it would be really interesting to build up an open-source catalog of this sort of projects for different sorts of small scale processes. Combine this with a nitrogen purification cell and an electrically driven Haber-Bosch or Frank-Car cell (along with the needed cells to recycle the other feed stocks) and you could turn surplus solar power into Ammonia which is an important fertilizer (and if you don't want to store that, a Bosch-Meiser cell can make urea which is also a fertilizer). Another interesting option would be Methanol synthesis (which would likely require a CO2 sequestration cell) as a reasonably storable and high energy chemical fuel.
@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120
@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 6 ай бұрын
I honestly think your suggestion would get the channel and community banned
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 6 ай бұрын
@@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 most of what I'm thinking of would likely work better in a different format than KZbin. Wikis and cad files for example. But I agree; sadly the difference between making the world a better place chemistry and arms design is often little more than what you plan to do with it. 😕
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 5 ай бұрын
​@@benjaminshropshire2900 Teaching people how to make their own arms is a part of the right to bear arms, it shouldn't even be a question that disseminating this information is legal, even *if* the intent is arms design and not "making the world a better place" (some argue those are the same thing). Unfortunately, the modern US government likes to use the Constitution as toilet paper. Disband the BATFE!
@iBlue0riginal
@iBlue0riginal 7 ай бұрын
Another Hyperspace Pirate Video. My favourite KZbinr!
@littleboot_
@littleboot_ 7 ай бұрын
same, I drop everything and stop breathing when there is a new video to watch
@trygvetveit4747
@trygvetveit4747 7 ай бұрын
And Cody`s Lab!!
@fusion2x
@fusion2x 2 ай бұрын
Very well made and documented!
@theshannonlimit1114
@theshannonlimit1114 6 ай бұрын
Ive thought about doing this with 2 stainless steel "test tubes" upturned in a KOH solution, and painted or powder coated on the outside, that way when one of both of the tubes fill with gas, the circuit is broken and the electrolysis will stop. The current could also be measured to determine when the tubes are full. Ideally, the paint would go slightly inside the end of the tube to prevent bubbling out. ideally, both the hydrogen and oxygen could be collected. Cool project, thanks for sharing.
@stcredzero
@stcredzero 7 ай бұрын
What about printing in PET? Also, there’s an open source design for a frame and cord harness that passively stabilizes cameras. I remember seeing a presentation from a citizen science activist group using this to fly balloons over refineries, where drones were prohibited.
@LumirayYT
@LumirayYT 7 ай бұрын
Will also get eaten by NaOH
@Grak70
@Grak70 6 ай бұрын
PET is an ester. It will be saponified (digested) into terephthalic acid and ethylene gas pretty quickly.
@seeigecannon
@seeigecannon 6 ай бұрын
Something you might be able to use as a permeable membrane is expanded PTFE. It is porous, so will have no problem letting electrolyte through, but I think it would stop any gas bubbles from migrating. Might be a lot cheaper than the stuff the professionals use.
@nancyallen8497
@nancyallen8497 6 ай бұрын
Very clever, thank you for the demonstration.
@ambientmekanic386
@ambientmekanic386 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for idea with lift calculation on normal scale. That is simply Genius in its simplicity.
@Fuscao_Preto
@Fuscao_Preto 7 ай бұрын
Argh Pirates, here we are.
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning 7 ай бұрын
siemens
@nullptr472
@nullptr472 7 ай бұрын
maybe the water is coming direct from fukushima
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning 7 ай бұрын
It seems a waste of good tritium. Once we figure out fusion fukushima water will be valuable@@nullptr472
@dingsens2810
@dingsens2810 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I did some experiments myself and had questions i couldnt find answers to. now years later everything makes sense.
@VyacheslavGol
@VyacheslavGol 6 ай бұрын
The resulting hydrogen can be passed through ice water to cool the gas. then pass it through silica gel, this will help the desiccant work longer.
@matteorossi5128
@matteorossi5128 6 ай бұрын
God bless the people like you who chop of days of trying and researching; I wish I had KZbin when I was at the university!
@waypoint8865
@waypoint8865 6 ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video, very informative on the how and why but with plenty of showing us what to do to!
@LaserFur
@LaserFur 6 ай бұрын
I helped someone make one once. it used 12V-14V and targeted 2V per cell. So it had a plate and then several isolated floating plates before the next powered plate. This meant that it was like having several units in series.
@IXSigmaXI
@IXSigmaXI 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this project. I like that you included a lot of the theory of operation and also the idea of re-packaging the power supply circuitry inside printed parts to make everything uniform was clever. really nice looking printed parts and visual humor. good video
@awesomecronk7183
@awesomecronk7183 6 ай бұрын
Super cool build and thanks for the warning about chromates 👍
@jpabon18
@jpabon18 6 ай бұрын
What a great video! I am truly amazed by the creativity and enginuity out there. I've work with hho generators in the past, and have always been fascinated with the simplicity of them. Why aren't more people doing this? What other uses could we have for the gas? Could you use it to power a small engine? Either way, you've got yourself a new sub! 👍🏼
@dudeahoot
@dudeahoot 4 ай бұрын
Love your setup. It's Industrial Design for DIY!
@bartdelege929
@bartdelege929 2 ай бұрын
The embrittlement acts on a whole lot of materials, big reason why hydrogen is still not used often for transport, but it will also affect your abs, its not only the natriumhydroxide. Great vid!
@martingutsch6985
@martingutsch6985 6 ай бұрын
This was a great watch!
@flagman3116
@flagman3116 6 ай бұрын
If you look at the output of your power supply, you'll see a little trim potentiometer on the left. You can probably use it to tweak the voltage down a volt or two and get it slightly more efficient.
@enjoyer8700
@enjoyer8700 6 ай бұрын
Glad to find someone with similar interest in hydrogen generators as me
@johnnicolls6810
@johnnicolls6810 6 ай бұрын
Holy cow, best video on youtube about hydrogen electrolysis
@brydenquirk1176
@brydenquirk1176 6 ай бұрын
Cool! I will look forward to the heavy water series 😊
@JohnEdwa
@JohnEdwa 6 ай бұрын
Use acetone to weld ABS parts together. Also its glass transition temperature is around 105C (221F) and it should survive boiling water, (though not forever as the heat deflection temp is around 98C) so you shouldn't need to worry about that.
@deanervik
@deanervik 6 ай бұрын
Dude you’ve got the makings of a popular product there. If excess solar power could be used to run this gas generator/ storage apparatus then on rainy days the stored hydrogen could be used to run a generator to recharge an off grid battery bank. I recommend you keep improving this apparatus. Totally awesome
@you_just
@you_just 6 ай бұрын
i would imagine that the losses from converting the electrical energy to chemical and then back would be greater than just storing the solar energy in a battery; not to mention the increased mess, hassle, and danger of electrolysis
@Richardj410
@Richardj410 6 ай бұрын
I used to use the carbon rods out of old batteries for this. I don't know if the resistance of the carbon would be a problem but you are great at figuring this stuff out.
@JoshuaNorton
@JoshuaNorton 6 ай бұрын
The issue is not the resistance but the fact that carbon rods exfoliate into graphite flakes when used as anodes. They essentially cruble to dust pretty quickly.
@shawncalderon4950
@shawncalderon4950 6 ай бұрын
Just plain awesome!
@libeshbalakrishnan8840
@libeshbalakrishnan8840 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to do this.....
@realcygnus
@realcygnus 7 ай бұрын
Easily one of the best channels going IMO
@alejandroalzatesanchez
@alejandroalzatesanchez 6 ай бұрын
i just love the fact that he had an eureka moment by doing a mundane thing like looking his dog sipping water
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting project! I've done some HHO generators when I was hellbent on building a miniature high temperature torch. BTW, Sievert is a unit of ionizing radiation - in Europe we use Siemens for conductivity.
@IncroyablesExperiences
@IncroyablesExperiences 6 ай бұрын
Nice with the engineering that is missing in most HHO/H2 vids, thanks!
@telamenais4409
@telamenais4409 6 ай бұрын
Another fantastic video. Keep up the solid content really enjoying it.
@etch3130
@etch3130 7 ай бұрын
You should move the cathode above the edge of the bell too, if anything ever breaks the pressure from the hydrogen will stop the reactor instead of pumping hho into the room.
@gerardoliveras430
@gerardoliveras430 3 ай бұрын
Incredible well made video and engineering process. 10/10. Congratulations.
@animeshkumar351
@animeshkumar351 3 ай бұрын
If someone would have explained the world to me like this maybe o would have achieved greater things in life.. massive respect dude this was amazing..
@jumpsneak
@jumpsneak 4 ай бұрын
So inspiring, Chemistry, Electronics and engineering, in one video
@patrickbowen9395
@patrickbowen9395 6 ай бұрын
I must commend you on design as I've tried for months to figure out how to utilize a circular design similar to this why maximizing selectivity of H2. I thought about a rod anode and circular plate cathode, similar to a magnetron, but didn't think about both being circular to increase surface area. So thank you for this design inspiration.
@briankimmell7960
@briankimmell7960 3 ай бұрын
Incredible! I've been looking for someone who knows how to do the math on these exact questions. Awesome work.
@mechadense
@mechadense 6 ай бұрын
Really cool project. Thanks for making the video.
@cloud-dragon
@cloud-dragon Күн бұрын
This is superb video! Thank you for all your efforts!!!
@topfeedcoco
@topfeedcoco 6 ай бұрын
One of the best channels on YT.
@jackimo22
@jackimo22 7 ай бұрын
You know it’s going to be a good day when hyperspace pirate posts a video
@ChrisMcNeely
@ChrisMcNeely 6 ай бұрын
Impressive setup.
@kylekimak3243
@kylekimak3243 Ай бұрын
I liked the fact that you recovered the hydrogen
@chaseholyfield517
@chaseholyfield517 6 ай бұрын
sick video mate, well done, well spoken
@karoma7898
@karoma7898 6 ай бұрын
Oh boy! It's a video from refrigerator-man! I freaking love those :) today's a good day, i can listen to it while working, not understand ANYTHING, and rewatch it again while eating, again, not understanding a thing, then watch it while having tea later, then i will understand it xD
@fmdj
@fmdj 5 ай бұрын
Quite a nice setup !
@nikbivation
@nikbivation 6 ай бұрын
This is golden for so many reasons!! Thank you!
@hobojohnson9980
@hobojohnson9980 9 күн бұрын
u can use acrilic solvent to weld ABS together. Works really well.
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