'Automated people mover' could save time, cut down on traffic to San Diego airport

[@comedy711]

NO MONORAILS Just connect the fucking trolley to the airport, transfering systems is always a nightmare no matter what, so the fewer transfers the better.

[@jp2135744]

The trolley is unusable because of the disgusting and violent homeless that the police won't do anything about. If we unite through love we can destroy the corporate aristocracy and their mentally ill child mutilating leftist puppets

[@michaelhorgan9525]

A people mover would not be much of a transfer at all. A trolley would have still required a transfer as it would be its own line that would connect to the others at santa fe. A people mover would likely run at a frequency far greater than the trolley.

[@erickhernandez5316]

Love San Diego! As a native here I am staying for our children to see how far our city has came. We are the frontier!

[@Skogiants69123]

Of course only transit gets so much scrutiny meanwhile highways get billions in funding for upkeep and no one bars an eye

[@jiongyu8185]

A single congested runway and congested roadways when the new terminal completed its expansion. Extra gates mean more traffic. The People Mover will be an ideal addition to the airport's commitment on industry-leading sustainability

[@JYP1M]

I live in Miami, we have a metro mover. I use it a lot, because our infrastructure is absolutely pathetic. Driving in downtown Miami is basically a no go for me. I have visited San Diego plenty of times, get ahead of this if you can. But expand the mover to more than just two spots.

[@williamerazo3921]

Exactly. Needs to be downtown and go near Petco park

[@portcybertryx222]

The Miami metro mover is just a downtown loop the Miami metro rail on the other hand is an excellent way to get to the airport

[@CeasarBergonia]

If San Diego does this project, DO NOT hire anyone that worked on the Hawaii Rail Project. The Hawaii Rail Project was 10 years late and $10 Billion over budget. Also, it is still not complete.

[@mikemiller659]

Oakland has one it goes from the BART station to the airport..almost No One uses it

[@michaelhorgan9525]

Problem is that AC Transit has a bus that goes along that same corridor that only costs a fraction of the connectors cost of $6.00. If BART did not make it so expensive such as pricing it to the same price as AC transit or even free, more people would use it.

[@Reptile619]

Let’s make it happen

[@williamerazo3921]

Letting common folks that don’t have the knowledge about urban design traffic analysis and construction cost and design shouldn’t be allow to vote for infrastructure projects. Already complaining about cost not knowing that rail construction cost have skyrocketed because the brain dead in contruction firms that don’t know how to build these projects

[@robertlaabs5066]

YES, Do It!

[@stickynorth]

Automated trains are the future of transit from Vancouver to Dubai and everywhere in between... The labor savings alone especially given transit strike potential makes it worthwhile... Just ask Vancouver right now which is hampered by transit strikes... EXCEPT SKYTRAIN...

[@marryellenmonahan5585]

You can invest in making San Diego a bike friendly city. 😊

[@danielsmith7023]

Bike to the airport with your family and our luggage?

[@anonymoususer3012]

@@danielsmith7023 Not to the airport, but in general. San Diego has probably the best weather in the US, making it a very bike-friendly place if the proper infrastructure existed. And by "proper infrastructure," I mean separated bike paths, not just painted lines on the car-filled roads

[@marryellenmonahan5585]

@@anonymoususer3012 Los Angeles would be a perfect candidate for a bike friendly city as well. Hopefully this is our future.

[@chloegan9386]

SD desperately needs this transit link but it is ridiculous, in my opinion, to build a monorail or people mover. Instead use the same track standards and cars as the current trolley system so this can be expanded and interconnected with the current system.

[@Matt_JJz]

Why would they build these instead of a metro? Monorails or "People movers" are overpriced, very low capacity and seem to need a lot of power because it seems that each individual carriage will hage its own motors; so it will be a giant power whore. Also these things have rubber wheels so it will produce a lot of tire waste (very bad for the environment). Actual Metro trains require about the same infrastructure, can carry a lot more people and only need two motors for units up to 10 carriages! It is also known that less bigger motors are more efficient than multiple smaller motors. This will also need less maintenance and have a lower chance at breaking down as the more motors you have, the more maintenance you must do and it has more areas for a fault to happen. Did I mention low capacity as well? Well yeah these things are low capacity. Each carriage is smaller than a bus (which typically can carriage like 80ish people at max), and come in 4 carriage units. Meanwhile trains like the Brisbane NGR700 train can carry up to a 1000 people in 6 carriages. When it comes to rideship do not expect much. The Miami Metro Mover has 3 lines and has a annual ridership of 5 million per year, which sounds like a lot until you compare it to systems like the Budapest M3 Metro which is only one line and has a ridership of 600,000 people PER DAY. Just build a god damn train, plus it is ugly as hell.

[@tacobelle69]

I’ve never come across any traffic leaving from that airport… LAX is a different story. SD has always been rather pleasant

[@eriks8382]

Exactly. Why is this a big issue? Try an automated people mover on the five north or 805 north in the morning hours and south in the afternoon/evening hours

[@patrickmccarthy6798]

When I drove ride share in SD, I had no problems getting in and out of the airport. I doubt very much if those going to North County will want to ride the people mover into the train station to catch a train going north and then get a ride home. They'll still be willing to pay the price to get a ride door-to-door from the airport to home.

[@shopdog831]

@@eriks8382you clearly haven’t seen harbor drive on a daily basis that road become impassable most of the afternoon

[@Acehitman369]

They're doing all this work but they need to add another Runway to get more planes in and out of San Diego

[@shopdog831]

Not possible without destroying the city. Land doesn’t just come out of nowhere

[@williamerazo3921]

No land and that the airport authority. Nothing to do with county Or city

[@anonymoususer3012]

The airport has no room to expand. I personally think that SAN should be demolished and replaced with a larger airport somewhere else in the county, but where that would be is controversial.

[@mikem488]

Shut down Lindburgh. Move to Miramar and put the military in Yuma.

[@gmailyoutube9469]

On time and under budget just like the CA high speed rail ?

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not most other major cities are using and more.

[@blakjewellio1407]

The automated people mover, you mean a train

[@___beyondhorizon4664]

Atlanta already had it since I was there in 2013. Paris already had it between terminals

[@richardtibbitts3841]

Those are bigger airports.

[@schwenda3727]

Looking in from the outside and having the pleasure to have visited the area last winter, wouldn’t it be significantly more prudent to build the APM from one of the existing Blue & Green Line trolley stations a ways closer to the airport than Santa Fe? I trust frequency on said trains is frequent enough to justify the transfers from either Amtrak, Coaster, or other areas the trolley and/or buses serve… and it sounds like the latter is increasingly expanding BRT inbetween corners of town where LRT doesn’t serve…

[@shopdog831]

No really the only other station is midtown and old town which are on the opposite side of the runway from the terminal so to keep it grade separated and not foul the runway you kinda need to run downtown

[@michaelhorgan9525]

One of the plans is to have a station at the port authority building near middletown that could also connect to the rental car facility.

[@williamerazo3921]

No. Downtown and Santa Fe intermodal station can get the most passenger numbers

[@michaelhorgan9525]

@@williamerazo3921 There are actually multiple routes they are looking at and some routes could connect at Santa fe Depot. I could see 2 routes one that would go to the rental car facility and another to get to Santa Fe Depot and possibly the convention center.

[@smckay6438]

I WONDER IF CBS IS GETTING MONEY FOR THIS COMMERCIAL ? AND THEY LOVE TO SPEND OUR MONEY ! I KNOW LETS DIG A TUNNEL !😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@1andonlytoonkid]

🤣People Mover? What's with the cave man language? Wouldn't it be better to use a word like monorail?🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@shopdog831]

No because it isnt a monorail. People mover is common term for a rubbery tired automated train. Its not a new thing it a proven technology thats been around in most large cities airports for the last 40 years at this point

[@4-SeasonNature]

It's long overdue. Boston has had one like this for decades.

[@Falconryful]

🤣🤣🤣 long as you pay billions more in taxes 🤣🤣🤣

[@annettehansen6329]

Sounds good, but where are people going to park to get on the people mover??? There is no parking at the train station!!!

[@YellowMarc]

You park at home and take public transportation! If you wanted to pay for parking you might as well park at the airport lol

[@Vim_Tim]

There are ~22 trolley stations with parking which connect directly to Santa Fe Depot. Pick any of them.

[@hollydillion1315]

Dude just walk or take the trolley smh.. People like you who would drive to a people mover are the reason why there's so much traffic

[@shopdog831]

You fundamentally don’t understand public transportation. You don’t use a car at all. You use the busses and trolly network which covers most of the city.

[@Veronicagoofy6]

🤣People mover. I like it. It's cute. Simple, but accurate. 🤣

[@marryellenmonahan5585]

But you can't house the houseless.😮

[@InteriorObservation]

They just did, the homeless that don’t accept are still out in the streets.

[@corgising5606]

Speaking of homeless, I hope they’re not allowed to ride this or soon it will become dirty and scary……and smelly.

[@Guest2022_]

It’s nice and a good idea, but I believe hardly people won’t use it fir safety reasons… I mean look at MTS officers can’t handle to have a safe public transportation. So I say no.

[@DiogenesOfCa]

Riding the Trolley is safer than driving a car; stop fear mongering.

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[@davidcarruthers5850]

waste, waste, waste.......

[@DiogenesOfCa]

Yes driving cars is a waste.

[@awarddataman2622]

Hasn't anyone seen the monorail simpsons episode? This won't be good

[@williamerazo3921]

This is not a monorail

[@progressivedragon6664]

Long time San Diegan here and I used to live in LA and this Has to be the dumbest idea I've heard yet. I have flown a lot this year and there's hardly any traffic going to the airport… At least in comparison to LAX .what a waste of taxpayers dollars this would be!

[@sociologicaltheory1419]

Basically a herd of cattles, I mean humans, being moved to a different location for a costly reason.

[@smckay6438]

Tax the people who use the airport ! Not the people who don't! This is not a necessity but a time convenience! 10 bucks a ride 😊 or you dont need or want it !😊

[@nathanieltrinidad5880]

tax people with kids, not those without tax people with cars, not those who don’t tax people on medicare, not those who don’t

[@anonymoususer3012]

Ok, lets end free parking then. Everyone, even those who don't own a car, have to pay extra taxes just to make sure car owners can park for free on the street. On top of that, let's only tax car owners for the upkeep of car infrastructure. Those who don't use it shouldn't have to pay for freeways, right?

[@smckay6438]

@@anonymoususer3012 so you dont eat ? As your food is delivered on the freeway !along with literally everything else! must be why you ride a bike ? Car to complicated? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[@manonamission2000]

think about it: makes it easy for homeless to end up at the airport.... just another way to disperse the homeless issue

[@shopdog831]

Thats a police issue not a public transport issue.

[@rjmanzano0877]

come on nobody likes taking public transportation its never on time always late so why waste money blah blah blah cost is always over budget never built on time so stop lying and filling your pockets with money WTF

[@escape_from_consent_city]

Leave early....

[@FloridaMan69.]

homeless people will use it as a bathroom