Automatic Smartphone 3D Scanner

[@Graham_Wideman]

I want to take a moment to appreciate the effort by Thomas and other Thomas to interview in English, to the benefit of us English speakers, when, no doubt, it would have been easier in German. And that's in addition to appreciating this interesting topic and project.

[@Shoopadawhoopa]

Seriously i felt weird as a german watching other germans talking in english :D

[@supercunthunt7756]

@@Shoopadawhoopa is thomas sanladerer german ? i always thought hes a english guy :D edit: auch deutsch :D

[@joetke]

I used to work on Lahr in Germany in late 90s, some 30 km from french city Strasbourg. As an IT hardware and software developer I worked with Germans who did their best to speak and communicate in a kind of a Canadian english... (There was a military base over there by then). Their english was much easy to understand than their french counterparts'. Guys like Thomas do give an excellent image of German engineers globally, mainly because they make the effort to communicate in that de facto world language, english. French reviewers are less visible because of the opposite reason.

[@Chrotesque]

@@Shoopadawhoopa You know what's even weirder though? (in my opinion, of course) Is when you start talking in English to another German for the benefit of a non-native speaker and if the need for English goes away (quite literally sometimes) but the other German doesn't switch even despite you switching already ... :P

[@RobertLBarnard]

@@Chrotesque as an American, I'm greatly humbled by this behavior. Here in the states, my coworkers are mostly from other parts of rhe world and will use English, with rare exception falling back to use their native language (e.g. Mandarin, Dutch, Flemish, German, Hindi or any one of several languages used in India, Turkish). Something else worth noting is the patience in breaking concepts down and making sure of its understanding before moving on. I've not seen this so much with French speaking (Québec, France, and Belgium) or with the Swedish, but my experience here is somewhat limited. Honestly though, given the beauty of the French language, I wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to regress into English).

[@openscan_eu]

Thank you so much for making this (and so many other) great videos! Make Munich has been an awesome event, there were so many inspiring people and great projects. And thanks to people like you, I finally got to see some of the other projects there as well :) Two years ago I did not have a 3d printer, nor any knowledge of electronics or programming and mainly through the online world I've learned a lot. It is so much fun to see this project evolve and more people participating. Recently some guys developed a cnc-compatible layout that can be easily cnc-milled, another upcoming update will be a rewritten code by people more capable of programming then myself ;) There is so much to discover and sharing and democratizing technology and knowledge will hopefully become even more common.

[@T5VeeDubVan]

Thomas I ordered one of your kits after watching this video last night, Cheers Rob :)

[@MadeWithLayers]

Words. Constipation.

[@orcofnbu]

we need more thomasses like this we have 2 for now

[@TheRaubein]

Bin schwer glücklich darüber, dass du wieder mehr Videos machst. Und dann auch noch mit so frischen Themen die wirklich inspirieren mehr als zu tun als nur irgendwas zu drucken. Hoffe du verlierst nie den Spaß und bleibst der Community noch lang erhalten.

[@vladimirpshenichniy3397]

Intresting project! Thank you Tom for focusing on small, open projects too

[@learnthroughmaking8555]

Sometimes when Tom flips the mic between Tom and Tom I think Tom is about to hit Tom in the mouth with the mic. Good aim, Tom!

[@Graham_Wideman]

That's why you should use a foam windscreen on the microphone. In the event of hitting the other guy's teeth, it reduces damage to the microphone.

[@Shoopadawhoopa]

Tomception :D

[@3DWithUs]

Yeah, we tried it, after 200 pictures back hurt as H.... 😟 We need an affordable (and printable) solution 👍

[@stealthninja1o112]

Still using my $10 Xbox Kinect. Works perfectly

[@originaltrilogy1]

What software are you using with it? How is the resolution?

[@stealthninja1o112]

@@originaltrilogy1 skannect. You need a PC that can handle it, but if you can scan 30fps the resolution is pretty good if you buy the full version

[@raymondwilliams6878]

I bought one off Ebay for this purpose...still deciding on the best way to use it!

[@kevfquinn]

*tries to think of a family-friendly use of the objects at 0:06 *

[@joesephrodrigues]

"architectural models"

[@mlee6050]

Looks like test models to see how good printer can print and over hang and so on

[@felipelopesmachado9295]

Thanks from Brasil by University of Santa Catarina - UFSC

[@scottbaeder37]

It is totally AWESOME that you are showing us all the cool stuff from the maker faire!

[@0lsenchannel]

sorry. maybe i do not understand something. if handle of scaner is in shape of ring how can be placed any object inside. Idea is to keep object without movements and kamera drive areound. But there is not visible any place for put object and also parts of construction dont looks as is possible.

[@elmariachi5133]

Yep, that;s what i first thought, too. But the circle stand should be enough, for placing a table that holds your item in the line of sight. Also you could of course print it scaled up, by about 7 times, so you can stand a person in the middle :)

[@Ed_Stoddard]

Wow, the web site was overloaded when I first tried to view the OpenScan shop. It came around finally but I'm guessing this kind of coverage will generate a lot of sales for the components. Great showcase of makers who are making for their own pleasure and sharing with the rest of us. (Oh, I ordered a board and component kit because of this video) Thanks

[@tonim.9460]

Omg i need this! One thing more i have to build! 😅

[@sebastianschneider4345]

I wanted to start 3d scanning since I got my first printer. Also buyed a kinect sensor and never could it get to work! Finally this could be a "low budget/hobby" solution for me! Thank you so much for sharing!!

[@dorianfeisel2945]

I have done exactly the same (bought the kinect to pc cable) and also tried it with my phone multiple times... I also wasted a few houndred grams for the "affordable 3d scanner" (or was it called "15$ 3d scanner" ? - IDK) from thingiverse. I never got it to work. :| I wonder what my problem was. Probably I need more practice with taking the pictures and using the software properly... Obviously it works if you know how to do it

[@Voyager_2]

Don't feel bad about not getting the kinect sensor to work. We have done it in our local maker space and the results were poor, just very low resolution. You can recognize a body but for a face it was not very good.

[@sebastianschneider4345]

@@Voyager_2 thank you for this comment. It realy makes me feel better! Always asked myself "what if" and "maybe some day..."

[@openscan_eu]

I can confirm that the kinect has very limited capabilities. There is a German facebook group (Low budget 3D Scan) and almost daily some people tell about their limited "successes" with the kinect. In contrast, photogrammetry can give you great results, once you have learned the basic principles. Just to be prepared: there is quite of a learing curve needed, but once mastered, it is a great and cheap way of scanning

[@sebastianschneider4345]

@@openscan_eu are you... The Thomas from that very video?! Oh I have so many questions. First of all: Thank you for all your effort, energy and time spent on this project! Well that wasn't realy a question. How about: are you a genius?

[@ATLaboratory]

Next time in Munich I must be there!! I'm from Italy but I live so close;) great video and idea!!

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Lost me at meshroom, this looks like a really cool project, why destroy it by using such cruddy software? They chose not to write it to use open standards and as a result, you can't use it with anything other than an nVidia card. Lame.

[@openscan_eu]

That's absolutely true, but on the other side it is a very beginner-friendly software! Anyway I would prefer VisualSFM, which is a bit tricky to set up, but way faster and seemingly more accurate.

[@AntzyX]

@02:06 Tom loves his Anet A8 so much that he keeps it in pristine condition: unassembled and packed in box

[@mlee6050]

Might be lucky that it’s price goes up lol

[@LoveMakeShareTV]

This is fascinating! 30 micron accuracy is very cool. I have played with photogrammetry in the past and looked at Qlone this past summer as a possible alternative (video in my channel). I'll have to follow this project to see if it truly produces better, faster results than conventional photogrammetry. Thanks for another great video, Tom!

[@openscan_eu]

I am always open for new scanning challenges and try my best to work on the documentation. Of course there are some limits to this (and any) scanning method, but especially photogrammetry is incredibly versatile. I've seen some papers, where researches scanned insect legs down to single-digit micron-accuracy. So there is a lot of further work to be done. Next on my list is a better, not 10 year old, camera ;)

[@LoveMakeShareTV]

@@openscan_eu Can't wait to see what you do next!

[@athornforeveryh]

I’m curious about that second one. The camera is stationary and it looks like the part moves. I was under the assumption that the part was supposed to stay still.

[@openscan_eu]

The first one was a prototype that would need further developement. The second one is working great, when you use a uniform background. Thus, moving the object is no problem (as long as it does not deform, like e.g. shoes)

[@wallpaper1138]

Yes, normally is the other way around but if you imagine yourself looking trought the camera, the aparent movement of the object is the same either way! It just changes the frame of reference

[@rodryk5605]

Really cool project.

[@davekite5690]

Good work - very interesting. :)

[@fx1c333]

table, xbox sensor mk1 1414, power supply for xbox and software . why not make a jig to hold your cameras on a table and put the object on an office swivel chair simples. An old crt monitor swivel stand.

[@LuxBacelo]

Hey, can somone tell me what software did he mention at 1:12? Can't understand what he said (I'm not english native speaker) Thanks! Edit: Nevermind, I found it. It's called VisualSFM. I tried it and works great!

[@openscan_eu]

Best, non-commercial Software (at least for point-cloud generation ;)

[@LuxBacelo]

@@openscan_eu Yes! I used it with MeshLab and then add details with Blender in sculpt mode and the result it's amazing.

[@andreasmass4492]

Dear Thom, thank you so much for covering this. It is pretty much what I was looking to get into soon. As a 3D artist being able to sometimes scan small things would be great (and print if needed). I can't wait to give this a go. And to Thom who made this project that you so much for what you've created and for making it open source! This is why I love the maker communities of any kind... especially the 3d print community.

[@Veptis]

I have been using VisualSFM for some time. It works great with Delta Luma and different resolution.

[@blackwolfecc]

NIce interview! I have the ring scanner in the works by this guy. Can’t wait to get it printed and built. Super creative concept!

[@maddash1337]

Any good (in the best case - free) solution with ATI graphic cards? Because all tool I know will require cuda cores --> NVidia.

[@openscan_eu]

VisualSFM is a great solution that should work without CUDA (It's important to follow the install-instructions on the website, as some further packages are needed for dense reconstruction)

[@justinpeanuts9767]

Great interview. Fantastic project.

[@terrain4print]

Ordered!

[@TasosKatsaros275]

right on time...i was looking for this. Thank you Thomas, great channel great material. We need more like this!

[@n8latham]

I was thinking about making something like this. Awesome to know that someone has already successfully done it.

[@user-be4yc2vr5c]

Very cool

[@crescendo222]

I like the videos about interesting maker projects (Open source) that are also related to 3D printing.

[@hglenn55]

HOLY CRAP! How big can you make this thing?

[@Mottersmotters]

Fantastic work both of you keep up the great work. It's always good to make.

[@louisw903]

echt toll, ich mag diesen Erfindungsreichtum. Bitte mehr so Videos. Und natürlich auch mal aktualisieren wenn sich wieder was tut. Danke danke danke.

[@crazystuffproduction]

cool!

[@spikekent]

Fantastic project, thank you Tom and Tom

[@punkaerzte]

Die Intro Musik ist so cool ! 👍

[@NicksStuff]

3:09: Scanned dimple key!?

[@openscan_eu]

yes, there has only been one set of keys in my local locksmith, I could not scan&copy ;)

[@NicksStuff]

@@openscan_eu I find that very impressive

[@RockyBMusic]

I am just about to test 3DF Zephyr This Scanner could be very helpful

[@openscan_eu]

3DF Zephyr gives good results, but you might run into the 50-foto limit of the free version. Anyway for regular use, the payed version is worth the money

[@ionpunk341]

Pumped to see more videos from this convention!

[@rheller_82]

Looks nice and better than my previous scanner.

[@thingswelike]

Another great machine. Love seeing these.

[@igorschmidlapp6987]

Good to see the ladies and kids interested in maker fairs...

[@danielkrah5129]

The booth next to him was the student startup with the custom filament i mentioned at make munich. -> umeleon.de/

[@android4cg]

This is the content for which i love this channel.

[@VicVegaTW]

Thanks for making it open! Can't wait to try it!

[@proteo-x4u]

where can i find this scanner ?

[@JJ-vp3bd]

did you find it

[@bbogdanmircea]

I think I know what my next project will be! Can I use a Canon A620 camera? How is the focus done?

[@openscan_eu]

You should use manual focus that you set once and keep all parameters fixed during the scan process. It SHOULD be possible to trigger the A620 via Infrared, but i am still testing a great Arduino Library (multicameraircontrol by Sebastian Setz), that provides the IR codes for many, many camera models. Therefore I still wait for feedback from the community to gather a list of compatible/non-compatible cameras. So if you give it a try, I would be very happy about your feedback

[@bbogdanmircea]

@@openscan_eu Ok I will certainly start to print the parts. Are the schematics available for the circuit,can it be made on a breadboard with an Arduino Uno? I am an embedded programmer so I can adapt the code if it is not directly compatible to the Uno. I have some A4988 drivers lying around, steppers too so it should not be a problem.

[@openscan_eu]

This sound great! The schematics are available here: www.openscan.eu/scanner/?lang=en at the lower section of the page. If you need any more details, just let me know

[@valeriozambelli2137]

nice but only for small object i suppose

[@openscan_eu]

Photogrammetry is perfectly scaleable. The scanning rig is partially scaleable and there is a larger version (30cm) available on thingiverse.

[@RinksRides]

there used to be David Laser Scanner but was bought out by Xerox years ago. Excellent project!

[@chadvoller]

HP is the one that bought out David. But yeah, it was fun to play with. Had no problem scanning my XBox 360 controller with it using just a cheap laser level.

[@DataCab1e]

Too bad it can only 3D scan automatic smartphones.

[@openscan_eu]

The controller board is designed, that most cameras can be connected with a little tinkering. I am currently working on the documentation to feature even more camera models

[@masara8192]

hello,what software does the scanner use?

more of this kind of content!

[@giova21111]

Anet A8

[@candidotorres1852]

Very nice

[@kurtlindner]

Anet A8 build video! :D

[@LinArt]

Exelent !

[@Voyager_2]

Is a 30 hour print still considered a long print? :-)

[@MadeWithLayers]

Not really if your printer is reliable!

[@CoPoint]

@@MadeWithLayers Exactly - on something like the A8? Sounds like a bold move, from my experience with that thing 😀 - but, at a guess, you don't print the whole device at once…

[@Voyager_2]

people often walked in with a Anet in their hands in the maker-space, al with the same burned mainboard near the power connector. Most of them were turned into p3-steel's. Now a old printer but damm it's reliable.

[@guatagel2454]

Thank you!

[@eekeek433]

Thomas, you must build your Anet A8 on live stream!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@itnaanti]

The videos from this show are amazing, I'm envious! I wish I was there!

[@FaraidunHawramy]

Both Thomas was so served about 3d printer. good luck

[@jimtron3256]

Excellent interview

[@valeriavidanekalman3885]

10000000000000000 fps

[@UbuteyAustralia]

Hhj

[@elmariachi5133]

Honestly I don't believe, that an micro toy with way too small objective, like the IPhone's camera, could really be better than a full grown digital camera. But maybe Tom2 has been confused by some digital magic tricks, the the IPhone executes on the images, like contrast enhancers and such.

[@openscan_eu]

ElMariachi you can download a sample set of pictures done with the iphone 4s on my website and do the magic yourself with the photogrammetry software ;) of course a better camera yields better result but even my old iphone is sufficient

[@elmariachi5133]

@@openscan_eu I believe you that it's sufficient and was just wondering about the focal length effect :) Time for me having a 3d scanner sadly is no, yet. It will take some months more, until I can afford fixing my 3d printer first.

[@openscan_eu]

If you have some spare time, you can already start experimenting (which I highly recommend before building an automation). Just take an easy object (e.g. piece of non-glossy wood or stone) and shoot 20-30 pics and feed it to the software ;) Doing so, you can learn a lot about proper lighting and handling the software

[@haffizullashaikh9038]

Tom meets Tom

[@timmurren838]

Tom getting recognized by a fan at 2:55

[@vinubox]

Where do we put the object to be scanned in the circular 3d scanner? Looks like impossible to me

[@openscan_eu]

Vinu Mon it was a prototype and usually i either hang the object in the middle or used a small stand that got damaged during the faire

[@vinubox]

@@openscan_eu thanks for the reply, excuse me if my curiosity caused you any problems, keep up the good work!

[@openscan_eu]

No worries, doubt is the best teacher ;) If you need any more infos, just let me know.

[@greenmikey]

Looks to be scanning an EVVA 3KS key!

[@openscan_eu]

pssssst :-p My local locksmith gave me a bunch of cylinders and this is one of my favorites due to the unique shape. But the most shocking one was the "non-3d-printable" BKS Janus: instagram.com/p/Bch_AZ4guBE/ I've printed this one on my Anet A8 and surprisingly it worked..

[@douglasrohman6191]

I wish I could read German I would love to understand his website :(...

[@openscan_eu]

Douglas Rohman i am working on the translation as fast as my regular job allows :) as a result of this video and the overwhelming feedback, i will create future tutorials and documentation in english

[@douglasrohman6191]

@@openscan_eu, no worries I ended up being able to translate enough to figure out what was going on and I ordered a pcb. Thank you. My only worry I have is that my computer may not be good enough to use the software. lol.

[@openscan_eu]

Thanks, that's great to hear and the package is already packed and labeled and will be send after i finish work today. Concerning your computer: I am using a seven year old computer and many software even runs on average laptops. Reconstruction then might take "a bit" longer, but in general it works. Especially visualSFM is great in handling ressources and considerably fast doing the reconstruction

[@douglasrohman6191]

@@openscan_eu Awesome and thanks for the info!

[@TheDarknessOfPau]

hey there!