Automatic Tunnel Boring Machine - a guide for setup and operating (Space Engineers)

[@hotelyankeepoppa8862]

So, to answer the question about Xbox that's a no, in survival mode any way. since you need build vision, (which is a mod) there is no way to attach the piston to the Rear of the machine. there is no vanilla "attach" setting in vanilla survival Xbox. So unless you make a true "vanilla" blueprint for survival mode, it won't work. I'm going to try to build the rear of the machine off of the piston and duplicate your timer block settings. if that doesn't work, I will use merge blocks between the piston and the rear of the machine; the rear will just sit 5 meters further back than your original design. And if that doesn't work, you probably won't hear back from me. Wish me luck!

[@Wellington6012]

Thanks for letting me know Hyper Threat, now when the question is asked, I can answer with some certainty. Attaching that piston was an error on my part, I used build vision, but in my mind you could do it through the control panel like rotors and hinges, which of course you can't. I don't think it's too much hassle just to rebuild the back end, only a couple of timers which have their programming in the description. Good luck.

[@hotelyankeepoppa8862]

​@@Wellington6012 Oh Contrare Monfrair, I do not see it as an error on your part. For it is not your fault the piston spawns retracted in survival. Several things; It DOES work if you rebuild off of the back of the piston and reprogram everything. I don't see any other viable way to do it. It IS your fault for only publishing the main part of the machine on MOD IO and NOT publishing the drill head on MOD IO for the Xbox and thinking you did, but only publishing it for the steam PC version. how selfish! XD. i.e. it does not show up in the workshop group to download. you may have to publish it as a separate item for it to show up. If i can get this pizza spinning I'm sure i will enjoy it.

[@Wellington6012]

@@hotelyankeepoppa8862 Thanks Hyper Threat, really appreciate the detail, especially for others experiencing the same headaches. Positioning of the pistons for blueprinting is something I never even considered, will remember that for a [much] later project - space elevator. I don't make my designs for xbox or Mod.IO, but nor do want anybody to miss out, so put them on there to and do my best to provide supporting info. The small grid piston head is definitely now on Mod.IO. For me, it's a bit hit and miss uploading to Mod.IO, doesn't always work. All that said, when I uploaded the blueprint and associated video's, never did I think I would get such a fantastic response. Thank you Hyper Threat and all the other viewers and commenters.

[@hotelyankeepoppa8862]

@@Wellington6012 Confirmed. And thank you for your detailed design and assembly video. it was the design that caught my eye resembling the TBMs of modern day, only a little more simplistic yet challenging (I do love a challenge as much as I like pizza!) to build. and doable in creative. Thank you for your hard work and effort into something that might be overlooked but fascinating in my eyes. Keep those gears spinning thinker! What would happen if they combined space engineers with elite dangerous? (slowly grinning)

[@kielmcgettigan5192]

@@Wellington6012 one thing might be good is moving the timer blocks up to the main unit and using just regular armor blocks for the landing gears. tried to get it to attach which it "did" with build vision, but the back piece won't move at all even with the landing gears removed.

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

I just bought this game last week, and have about ten hours into it. I can barely make a crappy rover, let alone anything like this! This machine is absolutely mind-blowing! I scarcely have the words to heap the praise that you deserve! Outstanding! 🖖😀

[@Wellington6012]

Thanks Pondimus. Hope you get lots of hours enjoyment out of SE. General rule, it takes about 50 hours+ to get the hang of it. My advice, learn in vanilla so you understand how it works, then get into mods later. Many of my builds are published, with the intention of others to dissect and learn from. Not trying to self promote, but also I have some 3 minute tutorials on my channel, which I made to teach things I would have like to have known when I first started out playing SE.

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

@@Wellington6012 Subbed, and thanks. May the algorithm be good to you! 😎

[@CrtJester]

i think this is one of the most thought out drilling machines I have ever seen!

[@Wellington6012]

Thanks CRT, I lost what felt like an entire weekend building the first one on Hephaestus Prime, and then another weekend with the upgraded version plus video ;-)

[@somedude1771]

My guy i love your content. Everytime I want to know something I end up finding you and its on point everytime.

[@Wellington6012]

Thanks Somedude, really happy to hear that. I always do my SE stuff from the perspective of what I would have liked to seen when first starting out.

[@acethrashin]

I loved this machine i wished there was more like it. thank you for making my life so much simpler. and i can finally find out what happens if you make a hole from one side of the planet to the other

[@acethrashin]

Update: the machine broke on me the pistons stuck. i watched the trouble shooting video but it didnt really help. i didnt really understand, could you make a demo of how to fix the piston getting stuck

[@MONTUSKER]

This is insanely well designed! Thanks for making this guide!

[@Wellington6012]

Thanks Joseph, it took a while first time around to build, but subsequent versions got easier, mainly due to removing unnecessary complexity. Moving one block at a time, simple seems better.

[@CrazyassGaming]

Excellent work sir, I have learnt a lot and had so much fun with it

[@Wellington6012]

Great to hear Angry Panda, that was always the intention, just a base machine to learn from and expand upon.

[@LordDarkwii]

Man, that's amazing. Given me a bit of inspiration to have a try at new things in the game. Cheers, I'll sub and have a look through your other vids - especially the tutorials you mention in reply to a comment further down.

[@Wellington6012]

Welcome Chris, hope you find some interesting stuff amongst my videos.

[@Wellington6012]

@@LordDarkwii Jolly good. Just a public service announcement, Hephaestus Prime is series 1, Ares Colony is series 2, although they are concurrent and follow the same story line, apart from one single spoiler at the start of Ares, they are basically stand alone series, so don't need to be watched in order. Never Surrender and Far From Home are totally stand alone series.

[@DragonNationGaming]

Impressive. Much more compact than my TBM. There is nothing better than an original, vanilla design.

[@Wellington6012]

High praise from an expert in the game such as yourself, thank you so much. I have seen your TBM and love what you did. I did plan in my head something similar, but it was too complicated for my poor little brain to deal with.

[@DragonNationGaming]

@@Wellington6012 You've inspired me to do another play through and get back to complicated designs. I will also watch your series and see how your channel grows

[@Wellington6012]

@@DragonNationGaming I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

[@ptbrian1016]

Awesome build, im on ps4, but I ended up using large drills and I tried several times to get the sensor that triggers the first timer block to work without success... ended up replacing it with another timer block and used my stopwatch to time the cycle time from when timer 1 is triggered until the drill piston was fully extended... I also sped up the rotor to 1rpm and piston to 0.020 which sped the cycle time up about 2:40

[@Wellington6012]

Good to hear. Although I never make my builds for console, I actively build in a way that shouldn't restrict their use at least. If I was to rebuild the rig again today, there are some things I might do differently, I'd probably replace that sensor with a event controller, so that when the piston gets a certain distance, it triggers.

[@hotelyankeepoppa8862]

UPDATE - Does work on Xbox vanilla survival: Need to add landing gear to the bottom of the whole grid and turn it into a platform (Xbox wont let you convert it if any part of the grid is touching ground. The piston that moves the machine needs to be retracted and a new blueprint made before building in survival. Also timers are needed to step the drill in 1.2m increments so it doesn't bury into the wall you are mining. Apparently Xbox Doesn't believe in Physics, Fluid dynamics, applied pressure or true Kn. you can do all this in creative then build it in survival. I have created the "Catadriller TBM" blueprints of the machine and the drill head for the Xbox if you are having any trouble. THIS IS AN AWSIOME MACHINE! Thank you Mr. Wellington for sharing your very thoughtful design, and the inspiration for me to hammer out the wrinkles for a challenging platform. What can I say; I have the need to create ! Peace and Love from the Xbox master race :D

[@Wellington6012]

Thanks yo so much Hyper Threat. If you can please copy and re-comment your update as a reply in you original thread, I'll pin it and put a reference in the workshop/MOD.IO page description.

[@chrsfincher]

Where can I find these xbox blueprints?

[@hotelyankeepoppa8862]

@@chrsfincher I don't know how to copy links for MOD.IO from the xbox, but you can search for them in game on the Xbox at the workshop by filtering to "Other". The Main Machine is listed as "Catadriller TBM Machine Xbox Final" and the drill head is listed under "Other" as well. it is listed as "Catadriller TBM XLT Drill Head Xbox FNL". To be clear, these are 2 separate blueprints that need to be combined as per Wellington 6012's video above starting at time marker 5:34.

[@chrsfincher]

@@hotelyankeepoppa8862 ty for the speedy reply I'll search on there later when I get on i was searching with my phone

[@Wellington6012]

@@chrsfincher Hi there. The links to the mod.io website is in the video description.

[@insanity42]

For attaching the drill head, you say to add a small grid rotor head, but in the video the rotor part that appears looks different than what does in the game when adding a small rotor head. Additionally, the small Conveyor Junction will not attach to the rotor part that does appear in the way shown in the video. The blueprint for the drill head if pasted into creative shows it has an Advanced Rotor Part 3x3, so I assume this is the rotor part that needs to be added into to add the small projector?

[@Wellington6012]

Ah, yes, that'll be because on the recent Most Wanted update now adds the 1x1 head by default, rather than the 3x3 liked it used to. A work around might be adding the 1x1 head, some blocks for spacing, a small battery, projector and finally a landing gear on the front. Use the big piston to push the small grid forward and stick it to the voxel or a place block with the landing gear. Detach the rotor and retract the piston leaving enough room to project/weld the blueprint. Position the blueprint so the 3x3 rotor head shaft is in the same place as the 1x1 rotor head, then it will be in the right place lined up to extend the piston and reattach. Edit - actually now I think about it, the 3x3 head and conveyor junction is only there to adapt down to 1x1 anyway, and is surplus to requirement now. Just put a couple of 1x1 conveyors on the 1x1 head to create some space between the rotor and spinning arms, then just projects the arms onto that and do away with the 3x3 parts.

[@lordrahl2.034]

Really wish I’d watched this before starting, I’ve built it 5 times due to little hiccups (mostly lining up the roadway wrong, not clearing enough space to weld the road, pushing things impatiently...) I got her working beautifully until my cousin logged in, I turned my back, and it was on its side... we got it up the right way with our large grid salvage ship(with minor thruster damage and he guided me down....straight through the roadway. I think I’m going to have to grind it down and reassemble number 5 🤣

[@Wellington6012]

On the earlier version without onboard processing, I forgot to top up the steel and "bad" things happened. Glad to hear the instructions were useful, actually took a while to put that video together. I think it important when uploading content, to give as much useful information as possible to make things work and let you know what you're in for and how to get the best out of it. This particular drill was only ever intended as a base machine others could learn from, adapt and engineer suit their own requirements.

[@lordrahl2.034]

@@Wellington6012 funnily enough tonight mine ran out of plates and fell over. I hadn’t had the waste ejector on so the assembler was full of nickel/silicon and hadn’t had enough Space to build more plates (and I hadn’t kept an eye on it). I’m still uncertain as to how I’ll right it this time. Last time she was outside so I could pick her up and carefully set her back with a ship. Now she’s 200m underground so I’ll have to improvise!

[@MarkMcDaniel]

The problem with the drill dropping items on the ground behind it is the 57 loose world stuff limit.

[@RickyCooper-j4o]

After rebuilding the drill head 3 times in survival because I didn't pay attention to the orientation of the conveyor junction on the small rotor head, I finally got this machine going! I don't have build vision so I just removed an replaced the conveyor junction, timers, and landing gear onto the repositioning piston, and then set the timers up by your notes.. its chugging along now! But the drill head piston seems to be extending too quickly and the drills are getting too deep into the rock and binding up. It's set at 0.1m/s though. Would adding more drills to the shorter row like the full row help?

[@Wellington6012]

Great to hear you got it working. Advice a bit late now, but if you have any issue that require the drill head to be disconnected, you don't need to rebuild. Just put a small battery, piston and landing gear on the drill head and stick it to the wall in front, then you can pull the drill head out of the main rotor and put it back in. The main piston should push very slowly, slower the better, 0.1m/s is more like a rotationless plunge speed. I forget the speed, but I would be thinking more a long the lines of 0.01m/s or 0.1m/s in the time is takes to do a quarter rotation. Speeding it up and slowing it down with the timer can be confusing, because of subtracting negatives, just use speed up/slow down, never reverse on this set up.

[@RickyCooper-j4o]

​@Wellington 6012 awesome! Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a try! I've been playing this game for a little over a month and I hate to say it but I'm addicted! The sensors and timers remind me of programmable logic control I took in college. Haven't been able to do much with it since I graduated but I loved the troubleshooting and it appealed to my OCD.🤣🤣

[@Wellington6012]

@@RickyCooper-j4o There is the event controller now, which could replace the task the sensor does.

[@RickyCooper-j4o]

​@@Wellington6012 I saw that. I'm downloading the automation update next time I sit down to play.. planning a big underground base, tunnel with overhead trolley crane to move ships in and out, elevators, etc..

[@colecook834]

Could you add more storage to the rear in order to leave it running for longer.

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Cole. You can do what ever you want with it, it simply sharing of an idea, a base vehicle to be dissected and improved upon. I has enough storage to keep itself going, bearing in mind its purpose is to dig a tunnel. But then again it could provide a lot of surplus rock if you gathered it, so you could add storage if you wanted to retain some additional resource, but I personally think going down the track of adjusting the blueprint to include connectors so that surplus material is exported rather than stored or dumped.

[@colecook834]

@@Wellington6012 oh that's a better idea. I am new to space engineers and it looks like a game that 100 hrs in. I'll still be calling myself new to space engineers. Recently started using groups more efficiently. And just found out I can type numbers in the slider. So your video was very inspiring.

[@chrislaf89]

@@colecook834 You could get a 1000 hours into this and still find things you didn't know before

[@wolfhunter98]

So built this, fixed the piston with a mod. But the timer blocks are all missing some blocks and as such nothing happens when we try to start it. Is there a weld order for the blueprint? Or did we somehow mess something up?

[@Wellington6012]

I don't think there a weld order, it was a while ago, but I think I just welded it up for this video and it worked. Did you get the timer that is in the base itself? Sometimes people miss that one. The timer programming is listed on the steam workshop page, you should be able to check against that for any thing missing.

[@wolfhunter98]

@@Wellington6012 Got the base one. All timer blocks are missing items, the base one is missing both.

[@Wellington6012]

@@wolfhunter98 Did you check against the timer setup on the workshop page? steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2415842702

[@wolfhunter98]

@@Wellington6012 Got the timers fixed, now the merge blocks will not lock, which stops #4 from going. And stops it from advancing. Edit: Does unsupported stations have to be on or off? Looking at the info menu I think the driller part keeps staying as a station after it merges with one. Assuming the platform is a station then the miner part that moves needs to be a "ship" ?

[@Wellington6012]

@@wolfhunter98 I know the unsupported station setting, but I have never used, so whatever the default is. I don't recall mine not merging, but yes it would basically convert to station. I did have the occasional bug that one of the welders would remain remain static. During the entirety of digging Fort Rutherford, which was a lot of advances, I think it did it twice, so I'm talking 1% or 2% of the time. In other miners I've since built, often the first piston stayed a station, but the pistons on this rig never caused me any troubles. Have you added any extra blocks, like say a connector to connect to the grid? The reason I ask is even though a connector is 1x1 and you can pre-connect them on the same grid, they do prevent merging.

[@capjlpgaming]

Hi I got this thing moving finally but not the piston doesn't retract fast enough so it smashes into the rocks an knocks off the machine. I am on xbox timers look right but i am new to the game. Any Idea's

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Capjlp. First, have a read through the comments here, the demo video and the steam workshop page, there's quite a bit of trouble shooting available. For the piston not moving, you need to figure out whats not moving, whether it the landing gear section, or the main section. sometimes the grinder or merge blocks block collide and prevent it from moving, or there is a bug where an individual block might stay as a static [station] grid. For the speed of the piston, probably a setting, confusing and easy for it to go wrong. ie slowing down while in reverse makes it reverse quicker. Maybe set it to go forward at correct speed, delete the reverse/retract, instead, decrease the speed, 0.05 will become -0.45, then when it ready to go forward again, increase the speed to reset.

[@paulcharteris9864]

I have tried to use this in both survival and creative, but I can not get the landing gear to move and yes I have unlocked them, I have replaced them, and started a new build 3x. Each time the same thing . Extend the piston to attach it to the landing gear attach it works fine. Go to retract the piston back nothing happens. The gear is showing are lit up yellow around the base of each foot.

[@Wellington6012]

So this is the back piston retracting at the end of the cycle ready for the next push? Can you manually lock or unlock the landing gear? Does the landing gear assembly move back and forward on the piston , but just wont lock?

[@paulcharteris9864]

@@Wellington6012 yes can manually lock and unlock the gear. Locked gear is green and unlocked gear is yellow.

[@paulcharteris9864]

@@Wellington6012 The landing gear assembly will not move with the piston at all. If I detach fron the gear assembly the piston moves back and forwards, so I move the piston from 2.5m to 5.0m to attach the gear assembly, grind back the pink bits, press attach, the gear assembly and the piston attaches, the gear assembly locks to the ground, I manully unlock each foot. Open the piston options to reset the position back to 2.5m, press reverse and nothing happens.

[@Wellington6012]

@@paulcharteris9864 Right, it sounds like a bug that sometimes appears. If you check the comments on Steam workshop and youtube, it may give some advice, but in a nutshell, most of the time this machine works flawlessly, occasionally it doesn't, but it's random and not the fault of the design. For instance, in creating the how-to guide, the first machine just kept going on and on and on by itself without issue, whereas the second didn't push a couple of times out of about 20 pushes, same with the prototype on Hephaestus Prime, didn't push 2 or 3 times out of about 150 pushes. Seems like some individual blocks on the machine remain a station and don't convert to a ship when the merge unlocks, for me it was a single welder. Replacing that single block worked for me, an alternative fix that seems to work is cut and paste a new version, just stick a landing gear on the drill head and stick it to the wall and detach rotor so you don't have to re-weld that.

[@paulcharteris9864]

@@Wellington6012 ok I repositioned the TBM on a purpose build area that is level and rebuilt the first part of the TBM. Came across the problem of it not attaching to the landing gear, but found releasing the merge block caused it to attach. And the landing gear repositioned to where it is supposed to. My problem at the moment is the automation isn't working properly. Timer 1 works fine, timer 2 is missing the step to go to 3 but timer 3 starts and flashes and that's all, nothing there to tell it to move onto timer 5. there are no steps to release and move the Landing Gear and relock them. Where does the grey box come from between steps is it a timer or just a blank?

[@steven7639]

What is the mod he is using where he can access the block functions without needing to access a terminal menu ?

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Steven. Apologies in the delay, YoutTube didn't tell me about you comment. The Mod is called 'Build Vision'

[@steven7639]

@@Wellington6012 Thanks for responding! This is an amazing mod and should be a feature in the game.

[@Wellington6012]

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[@DakotaGimini]

Love it, But i am trying to build it piece by piece since i am on xbox, wonder if you can make a video with build piece by piece and possibly the coding for timers and all that.

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Dakota Fulk. Short answer, not really. To be honest and upfront with you, I've already spent way too much time on this mini-project and I'm also not sure how much more I could really bring to a video without getting into live streaming type setup (which I'm not intending to do). The section of the video where I pause it during operating gives a pretty good picture of the timer programming. Key thing is to set limits on movements so it can't over stretch and 'derail' itself, ie piston limit set to one block (2.5m). Sorry not able to fulfil your request, good luck.

[@mrsalty467]

hey got this from workshop.. that first piston is really driving me insane i am not getting it attached.

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Mr Salty. Do you mean when first assembling the drill? It should just connect using the attach function in the control panel. Alternatively, I think you could grind off the pre-place head, add a new head to the piston, then use a couple of merge blocks, one on the piston head (they have side attach points), one on the back section.

[@mrsalty467]

@@Wellington6012 it is that first piston connecting to the landing gear. It says attached but when i retract it it is not attached :)

[@Wellington6012]

@@mrsalty467 It's definitely attached and you can see the back landing gears in the control panel seen from a front section access? and not just the piston force pulling it back and stretching the gap between piston and head? Accessing one of the timer control panels on the back, just make sure it's not a station, even delete the floor under that section and individually delete blocks, see if they float (station) or fall (ship).

[@Idleness76]

Update - I kept on mucking about with it. The back end was a static grid. I converted it to ship (after getting piston head attached) and it retracted immediately. No further ideas for the piston during setup? I've tried your suggestions, and whatever else I could think might fiddle it into working, but no luck. Edit to explain - I can get it to attach to the piston head but it will not retract the back end. With or without power on the back end components.

[@Wellington6012]

Hi James. So you are saying it's not retracting the landing gears into position ready to lock down for the next push?

[@Idleness76]

@@Wellington6012 thanks for reaching out. I'm unclear whether it's because it was attached to another, smaller grid. Just some scaffolding for wind turbine and battery. But the back end kept thinking it was a static grid and wouldn't move. I thought I had flipped it to 'ship' already, but could be mistaken. As soon as I clicked it again while the piston was attempting to retract, it started moving immediately.

[@Idleness76]

@@Wellington6012 I reached out on your Discord. Perhaps we can chat through a couple questions, if you have time.

[@Senbino1998]

i build something similar and my problem is that as soon as i connect the drill rig with a merge block with the floor (witch is a station) the drill rig will becom a station and will still stay as a station even when i turn the merge block off does anyone has an idea how to fix this?

[@Wellington6012]

I Had a bit of a quick look, I thought maybe there's a script that could do it, but it appears the script and conversion functionality are not compatible. It's super annoying, I had it happen to me a couple of times, a pair of welder blocks stayed as a station, nothing else on the grid, just those. Appears to be a bug or maybe just a limitation of merging, as the drill trying to do something the game wasn't intended to originally do?

[@Senbino1998]

@@Wellington6012 no my drills are fine i only have the problem with the merger. I am currently using only landing gears instead of the merge block so i hat to put the projector on the station. Thas a bit anoying because my blueprint is only 8km long and i have to move the projector with the machine from time to time but it works for now.

[@Wellington6012]

@@Senbino1998 I think there are ways around it, but probably a rebuild. I had similar trouble in Escaping the Desert with a similar mining machine, one of my pistons keep staying a station. My solution was the pipeline I'm creating remains a station, I've just locked it down with a landing gear. It's stable, but I can't put any block into the voxel. Also I have the merge block attached to the piston head, rather than the piston based, I think that helped too.

[@talosmaltalomar1589]

nice

[@gamerelite3989]

there is a way to make this fully independent and have some of its stone refined ores to make a fully cycled battery infinite BP recharge that can run forever on stone alone theres already machines out there to prove it and it would not be too much stress added to machine i think since your project uses the same mats :) so fully indenpendent infinite boring through a planet XD

[@Wellington6012]

Interesting idea, the batteries could projected and ground down in parallel with the merge blocks. I think you'd need extra assemblers and maybe refineries too, but could be workable ...hmmm

[@gamerelite3989]

@@Wellington6012 yes that what i thought too and dont forget to put batts on discharge so the batteries on tunneler are getting recharged all the time :-) hmm so doing quick math with lets say 8 batteries 25% ( 4 per side) youre getting 24MW charge all the time im guessin? or 4 for 12MW ? that is large grid tho you could make something with small but thats more intricate and takes alot more space

[@ExessiveGK]

doesn't seem to do anything movement wise, triggers going but wont start moving

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Shoobox. So the drill goes forward, triggers the sensor and retracts, but the rear piston isn't pushing the whole machine one block forward? I found sometimes the grinder wasn't getting the merge block out of the way quick enough and would catch, causing the rear landers to unlock. There was no rhyme or reason why some machines did it, whereas identical machines worked fine (I had two pasted side by side). Try manually grinding the merge block off, see if that works one time, then a permanent fix for that is on timer #1 to turn off the landing gears after locking, timer #5 turn them on again before unlocking. The mod.io version has already been updated with this change, but steam uploading not playing ball for me right now. Another thing I'll mention, on my original version on Hephaestus Prime, occasionally one of the welder blocks turned itself in a station, not the whole grid, just the one block, had grind it off and replace. Not stuck that on this version, but haven't run them as long as the Hephaestus one either.

[@ExessiveGK]

@@Wellington6012 drill piston goes forwards and returns, rotors rotate but landing gears and rear do nothing in rear of machine. removed the pink block and lcd on side of machine followed everything as suggested at end of video for any hang-ups but nothing, only thing I don't see in the main system is the button because I don't own the sparks DLC.

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Shoobox, apologies for the late reply. I have had a bit of a think and not sure what's causing it. The only thing I'd suggest, and I realise you've probably tried numerous things already, is just manually trying to do a cycle to move the pistons, machine etc without the use of timers, to rule them in/out. Also I didn't realise the master button was in the DLC, all it does with the action ON/OFF for a simple group containing the piston, drills and rotor. Sorry I can't be more help than that :-(

[@maddogmarksdrone1922]

Has anybody built this on the xbox

[@Wellington6012]

Hi Maddogmark. While I haven't personally built it on Xbox, it is vanilla and no scripts. Several have asked the question already, no one has come back and said it didn't work. The only thing is if projecting in survival mode, you need build vision mod to be able to attach the piston to the piston head, or just build separately 2x landing gears, 1x connector and 2x timers.

[@vorcrogaming3055]

cool idea doesnt work machine extends drills retracts then extends drill doesnt move machine forward.

[@Wellington6012]

There was a very occasional bug when I first built this that would keep certain blocks a station when unmerging. [Anecdotally] it seems like this happens more often, maybe something changed in a recent update?

[@vorcrogaming3055]

@@Wellington6012 not sure the timers have the welders as unknown. Don't know how to fix that. I'm sure that's the problem.

[@Wellington6012]

The welders should be in a group, which generally means they stay in the timers a lot better than individual blocks, which can confuse the timer if they get unmerged or rebuilt. On the steam workshop page description, all the timer programming steps are written out. @@vorcrogaming3055