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In modern endurance racing, Toyota is a force of nature. They are reigning WEC champions, having won their 5th championship in a row in 2023, and despite a surprise victory by Ferrari at Le Mans last year, Toyota remains one of the most decorated manufacturers to have competed in Sarthe, having won the event 5 times in a row from 2018 to 2022. But things weren’t always so rosy for the Japanese giant.
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@automobilistic
@automobilistic 7 ай бұрын
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@briskoschneider4510
@briskoschneider4510 7 ай бұрын
Good looking interface
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@briskoschneider4510i remembered a lot that Toyota GT ONE 1998 and 1999 are equally OP like GR010.
@wendigockel
@wendigockel 7 ай бұрын
Opera... Oh no!
@xr.spedtech
@xr.spedtech 7 ай бұрын
How they make money after giving everything for free.
@vitaobatera
@vitaobatera 6 ай бұрын
Meh, they won 5 in a row running alone. They were miles of with Audi and Porche.
@aojracing4885
@aojracing4885 7 ай бұрын
Toyota often gets criticized for having only won Le Mans without competition and some may roll their eyes at their current domination, but during some of the lowest moments of the WSC and later WEC they kept racing while so many manufacturers were quick to pack their bags and leave. They committed to the late Group C rules while everyone was leaving, then immediately looked for a way to race GTs, and after their unsuccessful run at F1 they returned and kept LMP1 alive for as long as they could before being one of the first teams to commit to hypercar regs. Massive respect.
@bmstylee
@bmstylee 7 ай бұрын
You can say the same about Audi to a certain extent. Prior to Porsche and Toyota coming in you really didn't have much competition. Peugeot with the 908 and Pescarolo weren't exactly threatening the R8, 10, etc.
@robertbearden785
@robertbearden785 7 ай бұрын
@@bmstyleewas going to say the same thing
@frylucas
@frylucas 7 ай бұрын
@@bmstylee Hell, people rolls eyes and claim Toyota victories at Le Mans are "pointless", but Audi dominated Le Mans for more than a decade, it got to a point it wasn't even fun to watch the damn race because everyone *knew* which car was going to win. I'm a Mazda guy, one that got used to the argument that our win at Le Mans "was just a fluke and not a merit", but I have massive respect for Toyota for never giving up, they got so many crushing defeats at Le Mans, I feel like these 5 wins in a row was fate itself apologizing for teasing, playing with and defeating them so badly. Toyota's commitment to motorsport is something people don't respect enough, and a lot of that comes from the childish belief that a company that builds "every day cars" can't beat "prestigious" brands in their own little elitist game, and I'm frankly tired of this.
@williamford9564
@williamford9564 7 ай бұрын
The criticism is valid. When Porsche and Audi were in the WEC and LeMans in the mid 2010s, Toyota never beat them. When the others left ( for valid reasons), all Toyota had left to compete with were non manufacturer based privateers. The regulations also effectively neutered non hybrids, further handicapping the competition. Toyota was racing against themselves, as long as one of their cars finished a race.
@robertbearden785
@robertbearden785 7 ай бұрын
@@williamford9564 toyota literally won the championship in 2014 winning a few races in the process against them so saying Toyota never won against them is false
@garchompy_1561
@garchompy_1561 7 ай бұрын
the followup of this story about the 2010s toyotas LMP1 and the current LMH cars better be called "Try, Try again."
@sandasturner9529
@sandasturner9529 7 ай бұрын
Indeed
@nathanstroud2223
@nathanstroud2223 7 ай бұрын
"I try already, so try yourself."
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@nathanstroud2223Setsuna Yuki got the message.
@TopCarsTV
@TopCarsTV 7 ай бұрын
Something about hearing those background GranTurismo songs just makes me smile. Great vid by the way.
@automobilistic
@automobilistic 7 ай бұрын
can't beat classic GT!
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@automobilistici also miss all the classic LMGTP and LMGT1 cars from Test Drive Le Mans like the ones you mentioned plus Courage Motorsport LMP1, BMW V12 LMR LMP1, Phillipe Gache Motorsport LMP1, Larbre Competition LMGT2, and Cirtek Porsche LMGT1...
@ritarossweisse_
@ritarossweisse_ 7 ай бұрын
OMG @TopCarsTV you're here too!! Wow
@bigfootproductions749
@bigfootproductions749 7 ай бұрын
@@automobilisticgotta love the Lance Hayes as well
@maza19
@maza19 7 ай бұрын
I like how all these Japanese Group C cars were unsuccessful outside Japan but Gran Turismo games made them look dominant. The same goes with other Japanese cars too
@perokuzmanovic5190
@perokuzmanovic5190 6 ай бұрын
exactly, damn as a child i played gt4 every day, and back in the day i thought the konica minolta toyota in gt4 was a monster of a racecar.. this video breaks my heart in some kind of way, because those cars are litterally my childhood.
@JanTonovski
@JanTonovski 7 ай бұрын
This was a very enjoyable and informative video! I have stood next to a GT-One at the Sinsheim technik museum and it stunned me how long that car was, even in comparison to a 962C
@pedroneves4465
@pedroneves4465 7 ай бұрын
Something that I suspect will be highlighted in the next video is the importance of Toyota's european racing division, situated in Cologne. They built and operated the GT-One, and would later become the F1's team headquarters until 2009, before adapting the facilities once more for the TS030 program. And they also support the WRC team to boot. Truly one of motorsports best teams and facilities.
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse 7 ай бұрын
You might want to go a little further back than the GT1 days, as TTE (Toyota Team Europe) they also won several WRC championships. The Team principal & former rally co- driver Ove Andersson was head of the WRC programme, then the Le Mans programme, then the F1 programme! (Yes Andersson, Dave Richards & Jean Todt have a loooong rivalry/competition across all kinds of motorsport) before Toyota got DQd and then banned from WRC for the turbo restrictor bypass cheat, which really set up their dismal lack of success (Lexus Super GT aside) from 1995 onwards across Indycar, F1, WRC, MotoGP, Le Mans (and even before that, crap Touring Cars!). You name it, Toyota Motor Corp were bad at racing it, for a very long time.
@2fast4speed87
@2fast4speed87 7 ай бұрын
Please more videos on the history of Le Mans. I’m addicted!
@error-code-80154
@error-code-80154 7 ай бұрын
Another banger! Keep up the great work ❤
@jadesmith6823
@jadesmith6823 7 ай бұрын
❤️ the content from Tasmania Australia 🦘🇦🇺
@ShionShinigami
@ShionShinigami 7 ай бұрын
2016 was tough to swallow. I mean last lap...
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for keeping this era of motorsport alive. I miss these days.. Been watching since your first video and always excited when I see you've uploaded another video. Thanks for your QUALITY work.. right from the start it was quality.. and yes, the Gran Turismo music still works for me too. My name USED to be "fatgoat"... I've actually forgotten what this channel was orignally called... back before we seen your face. Great to see you still uploading.. you're a natural.
@gp8666
@gp8666 7 ай бұрын
why was none of the TRD/AAR collaboration mentioned? it seems weird to leave out one of the most important bits of information out, gtp was under group c regulations which should be more than enough reason to cover them if the japanese series was also covered
@fishsticks1195
@fishsticks1195 7 ай бұрын
AAR even ran a 88c that TRD gave them in the 1989 season
@Moshington
@Moshington 4 ай бұрын
Anyone else here appreciate his rounded corners on the 4:3 footage
@Leo17453
@Leo17453 7 ай бұрын
Toyota proved multiple times with endurance that they were capable (the ts020 would've won if it weren't for tire failure), and now all their stifled success is coming back
@Racers-Setup-Guide
@Racers-Setup-Guide 7 ай бұрын
You should do a video on their involvement in IMSA with AAR
@pinkiepromise666
@pinkiepromise666 6 ай бұрын
When the video started it felt like a movie, that's how strong your voice is😮😮 Love hearing about the Gt-One bc the road going version is what I used to beat most of Gran Turismo 3 🤣🤣
@alig.20
@alig.20 7 ай бұрын
Your daily reminder that Toyota was the only manufacturer team between 2018-2022.
@Hammerhead547
@Hammerhead547 4 ай бұрын
If you get a chance, you should look into the story of how toyota created an american off-road endurance racing legend on a shoestring budget that helped them go from a niche truck brand in america too the third most popular truck brand in north america in just six years. Mr Toyoda himself credited their driver Ivan "Iron Man" Stewart and his legendary exploits out on the baja fighting with other legends like walker evans and rod millen for wins during the 500 and 1000 year after year with doing more for the brand in a few years than their entire marketing budget over the previous 15 years.
@camrsr5463
@camrsr5463 7 ай бұрын
that was a great video! well done!
@MrKebubas
@MrKebubas 7 ай бұрын
Like always great video!!
@gunlyrics
@gunlyrics 7 ай бұрын
Great video as always! And man that hair is fabulous!
@pigstain7531
@pigstain7531 7 ай бұрын
Ok the classic gran turismo music and great race cars content, i had to subscribe !!
@Whyteeford
@Whyteeford 6 ай бұрын
The Minolta 88C-V is THEE car i think of, whenever i think of or play a Grand Turismo game
@JK061996
@JK061996 7 ай бұрын
18:32 I like how these Toyotas are sponsored by Piero Guidi
@farhan.a4611
@farhan.a4611 7 ай бұрын
Can you make a video about renault rs-01.... The first ever turbo charged f1 car
@aakashbadree5617
@aakashbadree5617 Ай бұрын
toyota so cool for making those graphics of their cars
@jeremylacroix5517
@jeremylacroix5517 7 ай бұрын
OH MY THANK YOU FOR EVEN MENTIONING MC8R THAT CAR IS SO MYSTERIOUS ID LOVE TO KNOW WHAT TOYOTA THOUGHT WAS GOOD USING A TT 1UZ AT LE MANS
@Bongz187
@Bongz187 7 ай бұрын
Gran Turismo, introduced me to the the GT one
@tangwes721
@tangwes721 7 ай бұрын
They finish 5 laps before second place nah that crazy
@modulo3664
@modulo3664 9 күн бұрын
The irony of bringing F1 into Group C ruining it and then Toyota only achieving endurance racing success after starting and stopping an F1 programme..
@lethalityrush105
@lethalityrush105 7 ай бұрын
minolta toyota carried me in gran turismo 5, made me fall in love with group c and hypercars
@TehMehKehIen
@TehMehKehIen 7 ай бұрын
12:04 Quite unfair to put Ballestre there when this was Eccleston and Mosley's doing.
@calvinvan4773
@calvinvan4773 7 ай бұрын
RAAAAAHHH TOM’s 82C MENTIONED ‼️‼️‼️ LONG LIVE THE CELICAS 🤝👍🙏💪 WHAT IS AERODYNAMICS WE HAVE A WEDGE CHEESE 🧀
@FCT8306onTwoWheels
@FCT8306onTwoWheels 7 ай бұрын
Great video and commentary
@belvinananda
@belvinananda 7 ай бұрын
"don't give up, one day your opponents gonna go broke"
@cavemanskates93
@cavemanskates93 6 ай бұрын
Do the Group C Nissan history next!!!!
@automobilistic
@automobilistic 6 ай бұрын
Its on my list! Stay tuned...
@oliverbyrne3209
@oliverbyrne3209 7 ай бұрын
Great channel👍
@majorgrub1730
@majorgrub1730 7 ай бұрын
Why didn't you talk about the AAR Toyota Eagle bro
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 7 ай бұрын
Because they weren't enetered officially by Toyota
@dazeen9591
@dazeen9591 7 ай бұрын
"if at first you don't succed.... you will keep failing after until the end lmao"
@micodyerski1621
@micodyerski1621 7 ай бұрын
What about the all white box cars that raced in USA for Dan Gurney. They were fast
@MrDPlaysStuff
@MrDPlaysStuff 7 ай бұрын
Never heard of Puh-Zhou... I have however heard of Peugeot so I assume the 905 belongs to them. Also, 5:03 to skip the sponsor.
@BetterThanSparksYT15
@BetterThanSparksYT15 7 ай бұрын
Im convinced this guy changes his hair every video
@WorldwideRealityVideos
@WorldwideRealityVideos 7 ай бұрын
Ferrari won 2023 Lemans because they cried and got their tire warmers back.
@kondor99999
@kondor99999 7 ай бұрын
They never won when they had any sort of real competition. They simply hung around long enough for everyone else (Audi, Porsche, Peugeot) to quit and then racked up a bunch of meaningless victories against underfunded privateer teams with inferior tech.
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 7 ай бұрын
Except from the fact that Toyota were WEC champions in 2014 beating both Audi (who were the reigning world champions that year) and Porsche (the undisputed kings of sportscar racing
@King_Ears
@King_Ears 7 ай бұрын
Always creased me hearing how Americans pronounced Celica 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@FirstnameLastname-oc4xo
@FirstnameLastname-oc4xo 7 ай бұрын
First
@davidharrison512
@davidharrison512 7 ай бұрын
Nice video, sort the hair lol
@TheMusicTheorists18
@TheMusicTheorists18 7 ай бұрын
80 likes? Guess I did that
@FUCKYOUTUBEANDITSIDIOTICHANDLE
@FUCKYOUTUBEANDITSIDIOTICHANDLE 6 ай бұрын
Have they ever stopped and wonder that maybe, just maybe it isn't the machine but the drivers? XD
@kujawson
@kujawson 7 ай бұрын
It seems that no one noticed how deftly you use english... Proficient language usage is one of the most downplayed skills.
@Lizards_Lounge
@Lizards_Lounge 7 ай бұрын
Maybe just no one SAYS it, Hes always been like this, great narrator and natural KZbin content maker.
@kujawson
@kujawson 7 ай бұрын
@@Lizards_Lounge I'm quite fresh to this channel. And although I watched all of the automobilistics videos, honestly, only today I was struck by his admirable linguistic skills...
@RegionalRadioShackManager
@RegionalRadioShackManager 7 ай бұрын
Yes, he is indeed a Chad
@needfoolthings
@needfoolthings 7 ай бұрын
I'm happy about any creator using language deftly. Most use it daftly.
@MegaBYSON
@MegaBYSON 7 ай бұрын
come to england, its rather common place, to be well spoken when you gotta be, like at work or giving a presentation or speaker roles
@GrinXpedia
@GrinXpedia 7 ай бұрын
Toyota is the literal embodiment of *NEVER GIVE UP* in endurance racing and they deserve full respect for that
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
Toyota should got all the respect for sure.
@Yosh1az
@Yosh1az 7 ай бұрын
When everyone left, they were the ones who kept the LMP1 alive until other manufacturers arrived to compete in a whole new class, the LMH class.
@Marcoz588
@Marcoz588 6 ай бұрын
Wish they’d return to F1 though… Their liveries were always simple yet lovely, and by the end of their tenure, they came so close to a championship winning machine! 😭
@Edelweiss1102
@Edelweiss1102 6 ай бұрын
I feel like their endurance racing commitment deserves way more respect. Despite never reaching the success they hoped for, they stayed around for the final dying days of Group C while others left or jumped to F1, they built a dedicated car for its direct successor series and immediately jumped into GT racing once that didn't plan out. They came back with a dedicated car in 1998 and 1999 and only left for good after one brutal final blow. And they came back after their F1 adventures didn't bear much fruit either and practically kept the LMP1 class alive for its final years and were one of the first to commit to the new and experimental Hypercar series. The only other manufacturer who can claim a similar endurance is Audi in the early 2000s and then again in the early 2010ns. It's always easy to come in when spirit and money are high and leave again as soon as they go down.
@martron7
@martron7 7 ай бұрын
I've been to the toyota gazoo racing museum in cologne, where Toyota allows outsiders to visit their racing museum from time to to time(very rarely) and stood next to one of the TS010, the street homologation and one of the Racing GT1/LMGTP TS020, and one of the Le Mans winning GR010, and was even allowed to hold the original Le Mans winning steering wheel, as well as a few F1 steering wheels. It was beyond amazing, and we basically overstayed for over one and a half hours, in part because the tour guide was super exited and knowledgeable about every little detail. I kinda started that by asking the question if all TS020 had been converted to LMGTP regulations or if they kept at least one TS020 in 1998 GT1 spec, and we discussed in details which car had what problem, for example the TS010 was too thirsty to be able to go fast for the entirety of Le Mans. And no, the TS020 had been used as testbeds for countless technologies and improvements, so basically they wouldn't even pass homologation for the 1999 race. It was a amazing time and I'd love to go again. Also, thanks for talking (at least a little bit) about the SARD MC8 Le Mans car, appreciate you keeping my request in mind. Keep it up, you're nailing your style and it's really fun to watch and listen to you talk about some of my favorite cars. Also, nice Haircut, looks good on ya.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
There is also TS030 Hybrid 2012 (DLC Car in GT6).
@lucasl.5084
@lucasl.5084 7 ай бұрын
wake up new automobilistic just dropped
@majorgrub1730
@majorgrub1730 7 ай бұрын
No I'm going back to bed, he completely forgot the AAR Toyota Eagle and Celica GTO.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 7 ай бұрын
​@@majorgrub1730Celica GTO? That car seems like its quite rare yet amazing imo.
@lucasl.5084
@lucasl.5084 7 ай бұрын
I do wish he got more deep into IMSA and touring cars in general, maybe even pikes peak@@majorgrub1730
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 5 ай бұрын
​@@majorgrub1730to be fair, we are just talking about their European hustle. Their Japanese side (JGTC/Super GT) and American side (IMSA) do have a far better fortune across their run. Toyota with TOM's became the most successful team in JGTC/Super GT. While their collaboration with AAR brought out wins upon wins with utter dominance.
@FonikosGazmas
@FonikosGazmas 7 ай бұрын
YT did their work for once and Im here early ;)
@yracpontiferous4846
@yracpontiferous4846 7 ай бұрын
The Celica GTO was fairly dominant in 86 & 87 and the Eagle Mk3 became the most dominant car in IMSA’s history by 93.
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 7 ай бұрын
True, their American counterpart was actually really successful back then.
@DannySB991
@DannySB991 7 ай бұрын
The GT-One is one of those race cars that has always stuck clearly in my mind ever since I first saw it in Gran Turismo as a kid. It looks so so awesome, and even though I don't support Toyota in current WEC, I'll always love that car.
@JohnCharb87
@JohnCharb87 7 ай бұрын
Just noticed the framed Circuit de la Sarthe track layout in the background. Times have changed. Toyota couldn't keep up with Peugeot. Now Peugeot is being dominated by Toyota Gazoo in FIA WEC. Also interesting note about the sponsor Esso. Stands for English letters "S" and "O" as in Standard Oil. Due to court ruling in the United States it's more commonly know as Exxon.
@AbrahamArthemius
@AbrahamArthemius 7 ай бұрын
On the other hand, the story is far rosier for their American counterpart in IMSA with Toyota had a successful & dominant run with the Celica GTO. Then there's something i like to call "The Big White Brick" a.k.a the AAR Eagle Mk.III which was so overwhelmingly dominant in IMSA and continued to do so even after Jaguar entered the series. It effectively killed the class. It won 21 of 27 races they entered (14 of them are consecutive), won Daytona 24H 3 times, and held Daytona's track record for nearly 26 years until finally beaten by a modern DPi machinery (Mazda RT24-P)
@TheRUBrally
@TheRUBrally 5 ай бұрын
Once again you made an excellent work, thanks a lot for this video, as a Toyota fan I really appreciated it
@danestormfeltz7815
@danestormfeltz7815 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video! Now for one on the Nissan R92CP. 😁
@alaricbragg7843
@alaricbragg7843 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. I used to think Toyota would never win Le Mans lol.
@gapistan2335
@gapistan2335 7 ай бұрын
We all know the ts020 aka the gt-one deserved to win le mans especially in 1999
@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo
@Lego_Huracan_SuperTrofeo 7 ай бұрын
😂 okay bud
@mladenpavlenic1273
@mladenpavlenic1273 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, what about that year they drove against Dauer Porsche at Le mans 1994?
@ReboyGTR
@ReboyGTR 7 ай бұрын
*Will you ever do a video on the Audi Quattro?*
@xavierjuno4572
@xavierjuno4572 7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he already did although I can't remember
@polakjan
@polakjan 7 ай бұрын
You think 50 tabs is a lot? I regularly have 300+ tabs opened. :D
@adz87
@adz87 7 ай бұрын
wow man.. just came across your channel, looking for some motorsport, essay style videos.. your channel perfectly fits what i was looking for. now to get comfy and binge your videos!😉 cheers👍
@piuthemagicman
@piuthemagicman 7 ай бұрын
Another Automobilistic banger, especially interesting for this lover of all automobiles - especially Toyota. Been a fan since your first vids, keep it up. Love your style :) ✌️ Cheers from Finland!
@markg7834
@markg7834 7 ай бұрын
Another fantastic racing video. What an effort!
@mlgordita
@mlgordita 7 ай бұрын
Always love catching automobilistic content when it comes out although now I run on delay due to a new puppy at home 😂
@harlyquin
@harlyquin 7 ай бұрын
21:22 ahh cool, so you can open a door on the fuel tank and store your stuff in it? yeah i didnt think so, and i thought the Japanese were an honorable people
@somebloke2238
@somebloke2238 7 ай бұрын
What about the 94C-V?
@pastrapatur1034
@pastrapatur1034 7 ай бұрын
this is a toyota
@harlyquin
@harlyquin 7 ай бұрын
23:37 did sombody leave a suitcase in the fuel tank?
@ducksauce1290
@ducksauce1290 6 ай бұрын
You really need to check out the Eagle Mk 3 Toyotas. They were beasts.
@iaco.mp4210
@iaco.mp4210 7 ай бұрын
25 minutes video about sportscar racing? Yes please
@huskiegaming_
@huskiegaming_ 7 ай бұрын
I’m kinda surprised he didn’t talk about the 1994 Le Mans event. Despite Toyota not competing in a full factory effort, SARD had entered a car and was leading the race until about the final hour, where the car had a mechanical issue, which ended up giving the lead to the Dauer 962.
@matthewgrabowski4531
@matthewgrabowski4531 6 ай бұрын
Hard work beats talent, every time.
@krivickas
@krivickas 7 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you!
@brianbowcutt249
@brianbowcutt249 6 ай бұрын
Not sure if anyone else here corrected you, but Toyota's 2.1L Group C/IMSA GTP/WRC engine was the bespoke racing only 503E (factory Group A touring and Group B/N rally Celica GT-Fours had same 3SGTE as road cars, only with intercooler spray and setup for anti-lag system) which shared nothing with the production 2.0L 3SGTE other than similar design philosophy, layout, and a common ancestor (I believe they had to give it a similar bore/stroke to the actual 3SG for homologation reasons in WRC and called it as such, but none of the factory WRC cars used the production engine or 4WD system even). The common solution to racing a modified road car with an expensive modified high power 3SG that never held up, was to just replace it with a cast-off 503E from some defunct race team that was already setup for 300-500+ hp, and as much as 700+ for qualifying runs. The 503E was physically larger, heavier, obnoxious to mate with any production transaxle, dry sump, had additional oil/coolant channels in the head/block and different deck design, and a sensor/ignition/timing setup closer to the previous 3T engines than 3SG (it's really like some overbuilt pre-production 3SGTE in design, a mix of the two), and naturally lacked provisions for common accessories. Hardly a well documented or cheap turn key solution, but neither is a built dry sump 3SG that just won't stop cooking cylinder 3 no matter what you do. It's exactly what Rod Millen did building his Pike's Peak "Celica," used a 503E with a setup more IMSA GTP than WRC, made it decently responsive with more modern engine/boost control to push around 700hp if memory serves me right. About $8k would get you a complete spare longblock in the early 00's, usually left over from Toyota Team Europe's former operations.
@dodecahedron1
@dodecahedron1 Ай бұрын
the 503E raced under various bullshit 3S designations(3S-GT, 3S-GTM,...) for marketing and homologation purposes
@Benz2112
@Benz2112 7 ай бұрын
A video on Toyota prototypes in GTP would be a good complement to this video. Like the Electromatic Nissan team, Dan Gurney utilized the Group C Dome built cars for a time, but then went to his house built Eagle chassis, which ended up becoming such a dominant force in the early 90's. If the Eagle came along before the 3.5L rules, it likely would have been competitive at Le Mans.
@majorgrub1730
@majorgrub1730 7 ай бұрын
I hate how he just skipped over the AAR Toyota
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 7 ай бұрын
"Dust the car off and try again"
@Ikcatcher
@Ikcatcher 7 ай бұрын
Every new upload from you makes for great entertainment for my lunch break
@luyandamakonese4238
@luyandamakonese4238 7 ай бұрын
Love it!! Great video
@kzaeytzev4810
@kzaeytzev4810 11 күн бұрын
I don't want to discredit Toyota's success, but after Porsche pulled out of WEC they basically got free wins.
@corentinguillon5286
@corentinguillon5286 7 ай бұрын
I remember using a lot the Toyota Group C white and blue Minolta in Gran Turismo 4. It was super fast and had a lot of grip. No idea it wasn't successfull given it was really powerfull in the game. The only car that could keep up was the Mercedes Sauber C9.
@Starfire_Storm
@Starfire_Storm 7 ай бұрын
People tend to dismiss Toyota's success in the late 2010's to them not having competition. And while it's true, it's not exactly their fault that Volkswagen fumbled the bag so badly, that Audi immediately abandoned the WEC and Porsche followed one year later, leaving Toyota on their own, pretty much singlehandedly avoiding Le Mans to end up having LMP2 as its top class. And props to the WEC for not nerfing the TS050 to the ground so that other cars could keep up like the ALMS did to the Audi R10 in the late 2000's because they had no competition, so they allowed the LMP2 to pose battle by giving them a massive weight advantage.
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 7 ай бұрын
People also seem to forget Toyota won the drivers and manufacturers championship in the 2014 WEC beating both Audi and Porsche
@Starfire_Storm
@Starfire_Storm 7 ай бұрын
@@AdamTheMan1993 Very true, they won 5 out of 8 races that year in the WEC, but because they didn't won at Le Mans, people immediately dismiss Toyota for that year.
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 7 ай бұрын
@@Starfire_Storm Exactly, Le Mans is just a 24 hour battle in a long war. Even though Audi won the battle at Le Mans that year it was Toyota that won the WEC war in 2014, same story happened last year with Ferrari winning at Le Mans but Toyota clinched the double in both drivers and manufacturers
@Starfire_Storm
@Starfire_Storm 7 ай бұрын
@@AdamTheMan1993 It's something that happens surprising often, having Le Mans decide how a certain year was perceived. 2023 is the more recent, and already people are remembering Ferrari winning Le Mans over Toyota dominating the championship. 2014 made Toyota look invisible even though they won the championship. 1998 we had the Porsche 911 GT1-98 being made look like the greatest thing ever, even though it spent the whole year getting destroyed by the Mercedes CLK GTR. And who can forget 1991 and the false myth that was born out of that year's Le Mans. Now the Mazda 787B is massively remembered, but barely anyone remembers the Jaguar XJR-14.
@pppphillip
@pppphillip 7 ай бұрын
Well...even today, Toyota didn't manage to win Le Mans against serious competition. They may have built very good race cars and you have to respect their efforts, but their only wins were against privateer teams or very small manufacturers. Even more competition shows up for this year in the WEC and it is improving fast. Not only Ferrari might be a threat for this year, Porsche and Cadillac seemed very quick in the Rolex 24 as well. Maybe even Peugeot if their rear wing is working well. Let's see, who finishes on top this year
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 7 ай бұрын
People seem to forget Toyota won both the drivers and manufacturers championship in the 2014 WEC against both Audi and Porsche
@pppphillip
@pppphillip 7 ай бұрын
@@AdamTheMan1993 I talk about Le Mans, not the championship. Of course, Toyota is capable to build fast racecars, but they still haven't won Le Mans against serious competition
@AdamTheMan1993
@AdamTheMan1993 7 ай бұрын
@@pppphillipSame can be said about Audi in the early 2000s where they thrashed everyone at Le Mans without any real competition either
@PierreR115
@PierreR115 7 ай бұрын
@@pppphillip They would've, if not for the tremendous backstab from the FIA with a BOP change a couple of weeks prior to the race. Watch as this year neither Ferrari, Toyota nor Peugeot will win. Either a new Hypercar or a LMDh, to keep them pleased and competing.
@JerryCrow
@JerryCrow 7 ай бұрын
50 is nothing, you gotta start parsing more efficiently. You are not going to read everything, but you're going to scan like 400 pages easily per subject Like for example, lets say youre researching the shitsubishi cancer, then you find out that it had some magic center differential. That small tangent itself will have 10 tabs to scan atleast. But yea like awesome production; The konica minolta, gt one, and the dominator ts whatevers are historic. Wonder why their F1 effort never panned out, and why with their prius things the hybrid f1 isn't appealing...
@noleyestoad4477
@noleyestoad4477 4 ай бұрын
they did that because group racing was becoming more popular than F1! It was definitely the more exciting version of racing growing up once group c and the OG imsa racing fizzled out i stopped watching
@boomshine7
@boomshine7 29 күн бұрын
Minolta, so many GT memories to stay in GT fashion, 22:32 I see 3 GT ones, but the only real one is one the right. ESSO althaway
@fonsvinkunas5618
@fonsvinkunas5618 7 ай бұрын
Your best work so far! Very informative and entertaining. Also, nice cut.
@Marcoz588
@Marcoz588 6 ай бұрын
@7:50 IS THAT F1 WORLD CHAMPION ALAN JONES?
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107
@pauloluciomachadodebrito8107 3 ай бұрын
Your videos are pure gold. Hope one day you do one about toyota late 80's IMSA venture with Dan Gurney
@TU_Gaming
@TU_Gaming 7 ай бұрын
Babe wake up, automobilistic just uploaded.
@JackAdamCarter
@JackAdamCarter 7 ай бұрын
Automobilistic does it again!! Fantastic!!!
@paulreilly3904
@paulreilly3904 7 ай бұрын
Geoff Lees deserved a Le mans win, shame it never came
@Boa74
@Boa74 Ай бұрын
Porsche 956 and 962 were 2.6 and 3.2 liters. Not 3.6
@yanholliday8876
@yanholliday8876 7 ай бұрын
now we need a deep dive into trd's american effort .....mostly because i never understood the eagle protoypes :P was that a sponsor? a joint venture? imsa gtp rules and naming conventions have always confused me...i want to know! the gto celicas were absolute beauties, too.
@xavierjuno4572
@xavierjuno4572 7 ай бұрын
Ya surprisingly their American division is one of their more consistent branches, in terms of racing success anyway
@deeacosta2734
@deeacosta2734 4 ай бұрын
Poor Toyota can’t win unless there isn’t any competition.
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