10 All-New Electric Side-by-Sides, Bikes and Other Inventions for Off-roading

[@4GregF]

Louis Rossmann has a lot of thoughts on the OneWheel manufacturer and their anti-user repair position. You literally can't even change the battery.

[@DavidSmith-fr1uz]

That Lexus ATV looks sweet. Then I saw the Brawley. That's going to be an off roading beast.

[@Handle4477]

That brawly looks sick.

[@automotiveterritory]

Is it your favorite of them all?

[@Handle4477]

Only one that don’t get “mud”, sand or whatever when off-roading inside.

[@ChitFromChinola]

Stark Varg looks awesome. I bought a Volcon Grunt, and it was delivered two weeks ago. Electric-quiet and super fun.

[@automotiveterritory]

That's nice. How does it handle and what is the real world range for that thing?

[@ChitFromChinola]

@@automotiveterritory Head-snapping torque off the line - I mean it’s an electric motor, so of course - and smooth torquey power at any speed. It’s nimble and quick and powers up hills. I’ve always been a street biker, not a dirt biker, so I’ve got a lot to learn, but this thing just makes you smile like a doof and laugh out loud when you ride it. I’ve been doing muddy field roads and horse trails and old gravel pits and a few leftover piles of snow, and this thing blasts through all of it. The trail riding is pretty awesome because it’s so quite - just a low whine from the motor and some whirring from the chain. No screaming engine or hot exhaust pipes or hand-numbing vibration. The fat tires make turns feel different because you sort of roll into them more than standard tires, but it suits this bike as a trail rider. I haven’t ridden it far enough in one ride to test it’s range, but it’s supposed to go 100 miles or so. For me riding trails, it’s sort of a non-issue because I have it at my farm, so I ram around some trails for 20-30 minutes, then my friends run around a bit, then we park it in the garage and plug it in for the next day. I’m sure we will test it’s range this summer, but if it’s an issue, I’ll just buy a second battery. The battery slides right out, so it literally takes 60 sec to swap in a fresh battery. Maintenance is next to nothing - just lube the chain and check its tension. No oil changes or spark plugs or flooded engines or cans of gas. You just plug it into a 120 volt wall plug. Pretty simple.

[@robertnicholls9917]

@@ChitFromChinola Damn! You should do a video on this thing.

[@HazeRambo]

daaaaang!!! How much do you love it now (7 months later)?

[@ChitFromChinola]

@@HazeRambo Ha, it’s been a great summer with it. It’s just a solid design and a blast to drive. Well engineered and well made. Can’t imagine ever going back to a gas engine bike again. Next summer, I’m going to find an electric street bike . . .

[@ClubMayview]

Zero emissions... what a joke that term is

[@automotiveterritory]

Why do you think so?

[@whosaidthat5236]

Because they use massive earth moving equipment to mine the rare earth elements to make the batteries and the manufactureing process to make the parts for the bike take longer to make and more emissions to make .then after two years when the batteries have lost their charge holding capacity you have to throw them out and pay the same price as a new bike/ car for just the batteries zero zero repair ability on these electric things

[@jason0870]

@@whosaidthat5236 . Well said.... I'm a fan of electric but the fancy brochures never tell the whole story. Who controls the disposal of or recycling of the millions of large spent batteries. Just saying I never really hear any of this talked about when the topic is broached.

[@ag135i]

Good you covered the models with in depth minute details👍

[@automotiveterritory]

Glad you liked it, which of these is your top pick?

[@christianxzowner2958]

Wish they would made and affordable 100v battery for the Honda CRZ...back then we were talking about cars that fly...were only at electric stage ...hope i see this stuff before i die

[@herbhandyman8933]

Some interesting vehicles. Mostly derivative except for one-wheel. The scooter would be my choice. Anything happening in the world of home owner based lawn equipment like estate tractors? I have a diesel Kubota that I use for lawn cutting, driveway grading and snow clearing (plowing and throwing). The last two would need some way of keeping the batteries warm.

[@automotiveterritory]

The electrification has reached the professional equipment segment too. Off the top of my head, I could not suggest any the electric estate vehicles (will have to look this up) but I have seen multiple applications of EV powertrains in excavators, loaders, etc.

[@farmbossmikey1350]

I’m staying with gas and diesel machines bigger I had bigger farm and bigger yard and bigger trees and the electric machines won’t last long and gasoline will still be around for a very long time

[@gregbrooks4917]

Love the Volcon range

[@automotiveterritory]

Is it your favorite option in the lineup?

[@farmbossmikey1350]

I’m staying with gasoline and diesel and I got bigger yard and farm and trees and it’s my choice and gasoline will never end and it’ll be here for long time and that’s my opinion and don’t give me wrong batterys will never last long and don’t give me wrong

[@sharonbraselton4302]

wring 41 year need ektrc

[@SolarTechFL]

I pre-ordered a brawely gts+

[@automotiveterritory]

Awesome! Did you get any information about the estimated delivery?

[@zachb1245]

Dont forget about American Landmaster EV

[@automotiveterritory]

I haven't encountered these yet. Will check them out for sure

[@jashton8710]

What, no EUC's???

[@joeyholthusen6495]

If your 45 miles in the swamp? Then WTF when it goes dead or electric short?

[@automotiveterritory]

As with any electric vehicle (maybe regular too, fuel tanks are not endless and you have to consider your tank size) the range should be taken into consideration when planning your trip. In case of a technical difficulty, the approach would be the same - just to tow it. The only advantage ICE models have is that you can bring extra fuel, even if you are stranded in a swamp.

[@whosaidthat5236]

I won’t buy any electric off-road vehicle, I don’t want to have to buy another complete bike/side by side when the battery craps out . And all electric vehicle manufacture lie big time about power longevity in their batteries. I will stick with the good old Dino powered engines that I can repair myself without having a masters degree in electronics

[@ronaldstjohn709]

I don't get why none of these companies have tried to use a alternator to charge the system while driving? It could make it so much better and I don't think it's impossible.

[@automotiveterritory]

A system like this would charge the battery only when you are going downhill.

[@mnotlyon]

They don't do it because of physics. You can't get more power out than you put in.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

tegen braking syard all ec rech baterues whil dtiveig

[@andrewsims7849]

The dont have an alternator because that robs more power than it puts back into the system, however, they do have regenerative braking(using the motors as alternators to slow down and recharge the system)

[@drewkerr5413]

We need more e-atv for agriculture. Oh, and either central steering (possibly 3 seater) or RH drive for UK.

[@andrewsims7849]

The Brawley will be right hand drive and European street legal :)

[@Dabebo-xk2bt]

Quite a few of those will work well driving around the Grand Lake of the Cherokee in Oklahoma. People already use the gas powered versions which a few are legal to use on the road.

[@farmbossmikey1350]

gas will never end and don’t tell me that stuff it makes me upset

[@Dabebo-xk2bt]

@@farmbossmikey1350 the internal combustion engines days are surely numbered and I agree with your sentiment, will be a truly sad day indeed. 😢 The smell of unburned hydrocarbons and the sound of the exhaust of a big block plus the thrill of speed will be gone. We talked of these days back in college auto tech classes. Sadness is coming said the old man teaching us talking of electric motors being used for steering instead of linkages to a steering wheel, we are already doing this even today. 😟😪

[@farmbossmikey1350]

it’ll never end and it won’t happen battery’s won’t last longer

[@j.c.isking2165]

@@farmbossmikey1350 Welcome to the electric ENSLAVEMENT system that we are about to experience. They are now implementing driving laws that dictate how much you will be ALLOWED to drive…. All for climate change ( HOAX ) naturally!

[@telocity]

1:50 offers distance = to 450cc bike. It has 6kWh battery, that's like 0.6 gallons equivalent. That's all the gas a 450cc carries?

[@automotiveterritory]

Where did you look up this kwh to gallons equivalent?

[@telocity]

@@automotiveterritory Google search led me to this "one gallon of gasoline equals 33.7 kWh" But that is pure 100% energy, Another search gives "The modern gasoline combustion engine operates at an average of roughly 20 to 30 percent engine efficiency" which for ease of calculation I rounded to 10 kWh = 1 gallon of energy extracted by ICE vehicle. Also physics dictates that 2 exact vehicles moving in same conditions will use exactly same energy to get to destination. Logic. So if you compare a electric vehicle of same size and weight as gas car you can reverse figure out how much energy gas car must be using and than figure out energy per gallon. I've found it's always in the ballpark of 10 kWh/gallon which makes sense.

[@telocity]

Though these are 2 stroke which is a whole different ballgame.

[@Doc1855]

The side by sides are WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. We’ll just keep putting gasoline in ours for work around our property

[@automotiveterritory]

What SxS models do you currently use?

[@youareright5431]

What do you do after 80 miles when you're on the trails with that Polaris s*s? Have your buddies tow you home? And than wait until you charge up??

[@automotiveterritory]

This is the only thing that keeps the industry from evolving. The answer to your question would be to plan your trip accordingly.

[@xxbambamxx7261]

The industry can't push any more EV'S before they can find a infinite supply of the minerals needed to make set batteries, and not to forget how to recycle all those set batteries... The electric infrastructure aren't even close to be ready for a overload of EV's, and it need to be upgraded ALOT all over the world. And those who will pay for that, are all of us.. Increased cost to be able to light up and heat our homes...

[@automotiveterritory]

There are several approaches to recycling and giving a second life to batteries

[@jimp6576]

I would love to drive an electric 4 wheeler across alaska. When will they have enough charging stations?

[@automotiveterritory]

As EVs become more common, the development of the charging infrastructure needs to pick up the pace.

[@automotiveterritory]

The segment of electric powersports and adventure vehicles is being rapidly developed: new dirt bikes, scooters and UTVs are developed to give us more options for conquering trails. Which of these is your top pick?

[@billybobbob3003]

electric motors are great, lithium batteries as a fuel source for them arent and will never surpass gasoline.

[@marshallmiller4169]

No worries just have to plug them into the currant tree, when your outdoors.

[@jglide20]

NONE! They are junk!

[@nicolec7290]

I want the grunt

[@patricktorgerson9651]

How long to recharge each…under the various charge types…I think that information is more relevant than the range they advertise under ideal conditions…

[@3mtech]

Ride around for 20 minutes and go home

[@youareright5431]

Range is always the issue,the dirt bike industry reached its peak in the early 90s they were so good it's been all Rider since than,two four stroke or electric...

[@automotiveterritory]

There are certain claims showing that electric powertrains offer certain technological advantages. What do you think of this?

[@martsalumaa6338]

I live in the country near the city and would need an electric two-seater tractor-like UTV that could be used to drive 7 km to the store in the city to buy bread and tools. It should have a warm cabin. We have a second car for longer trips.

[@automotiveterritory]

I think Polaris has a model that should satisfy your needs

[@robertjensen4525]

Off road vehicles aren’t designed to cover multiple days nor over 50 mph for up to 12 hrs and 150 miles. Out in the country there are no power stations for hundreds of miles, electric vehicles are not an option.

[@paulhenry8174]

I use the same argument with electric trucks. If you have to recharge every 100 miles while towing, it won’t really work for a farmer. That said all of these would work very well on a farm where there is electricity and they are being used for a short time to get from one area to another quickly while carrying a light load.

[@automotiveterritory]

There are two ways manufacturers are trying to solve this: 1) good recharging infrastructure and high speed charging; 2) battery swap stations

[@davidwollpert5276]

Your first assertion make it look like electric IS an option. Which makes your last statement look like a bias, instead of anything of substance.

[@jeffrenman4146]

notice the manufacturer showing the scooter which is really a high-powered motorcycle equivalent driving route sidewalks no helmet… Just because they get away with making them doesn't make them right… This world has far too many products that should be illegal because there playing stupid with them all the time and their advertising this way as well. Starting to see handgun commercials soon… What a world but not going to get a penny from me

[@tammyforbes2101]

Yea I don’t care who you are your never gonna handle a bike with 600lbs of torque on a dirt bike frame. That would be like a busted busa on turbo and nitrous stuffed into a 250cc dirt bike frame! 100’ rooster tails at the flip of the wrist. 😂 be a wild ride.

[@automotiveterritory]

It's the theoretical capabilities of this motor with the gearing they used. It would be great to see how the bike handles in the real world once the buyers start receiving them.

[@h.i.mcdunnough9401]

Lexus ROV is great but it's almost as big as a jeep!

[@automotiveterritory]

Do you think they should have made it smaller?

[@h.i.mcdunnough9401]

@@automotiveterritory I think they should offer trail size models as well. Personally, I think all brands should offer models under 60 inches wide.

[@mustangracer5124]

Why do none of them create a small electric town car too?.. In several states off road utvs are street legal.. I wish they could build a small (uncomplicated) town car like a fancy utv or golf cart only street legal

[@automotiveterritory]

It's an interesting idea but I don't remember there being a manufacturer that works on a vehicle like that.

[@wattermelon1510]

I have been saying that there needs to be an electric side by side. Now they need more off-road models and the infrastructure or portable chargers to support them. I don't use them. I am a (electric and manual) mountain biker and they are on all off-road areas now and in huge numbers. I support this because it would be really nice to be able to enjoy the silence of the outdoors again. Then they will just need a contraption to pick up all the trash they leave behind since they are unable to do it themselves.

[@hughmarcus1]

There is one. A hill farmer in wales was trying one last week while his Can Am was in for service. He said the range wasn’t enough for his daily rounds

[@wattermelon1510]

@@hughmarcus1 Thank you Hugh. I'm glad to hear your opinion since it is hard to find anyone with hands on experience with these things.

[@shannonstiles8751]

No way the 4wheel vehicles will be priced that low

[@tammyforbes2101]

They better be if they want people to buy them! As right now their not as good as their gas counterparts but

[@automotiveterritory]

The battery cost seems to be slowing the introduction of affordable EV models.

[@garycsfunlife]

Considering utvs and ATVs are the two most popular options for off-road you've only got about 50% of that equation I highly doubt it's your fault but why no ATVs considering the popularity something you just want to cover in a different video or are they legitimately not making any ATV in ev

[@automotiveterritory]

There are some ATVs that I mentioned in my previous videos, in this lineup I wanted to talk about newer models (even though they belong to different forms of transport)

[@garycsfunlife]

@@automotiveterritory ok ty I will check it out

[@shaynegadsden]

Because they are useless no ev outlasts an ice for run time and everytime i have been out for offroad fun so bikes, buggies, atv's etc a major thing is packing extra fuel which mean with an ev you either needs spare batteries that can be swapped out which wont be easy since the batteries are big and a major factor in the cost or your outing is based on a single charge if you take the ev polaris it would take about 5 hours running a 3kw generator (it has a built-in 3kw charger) to charge it and thats optimistic since we know charge rate slows over 80% so with a 15kw battery giving upto a 70km range you probably have an hour of fun and your done for the day

[@jason0870]

These are all pretty sweet ev's but dang 4 thousand (us) for a off road e-scooter EXPENSIVE. Now hey if manufacturers really want to sell to the masses the price point of all of this need to come way down. I'm jus sayin....

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

only if the Can-Am MAVERICK X3 RS Turbo RR 4WD + 2.0 in. Lift 0.6 i-Turbo I2 4-Dr SBS ATV (LHD) was electric powered . . . call it the Can-Am MAVERICK X3 e-Sense® RS Turbo RR 4WD + 2.0 in. Lift 65.0 kWh i-SMARTPowerTEC® 2-Dr SBS eATV (LHD) if you will . . . the EV power pack in the Can-Am MAVERICK X3 e-Sense® RS Turbo RR 4WD + 2.0 in. Lift 65.0 kWh i-SMARTPowerTEC® 2-Dr SBS eATV (LHD) will produce in excess of 150 hp of raw grunt & a relative range of 560 kms under full charge & a full payload . . .

[@automotiveterritory]

While I think that the power output you suggested may be achievable, getting so much range with batteries existing today would be challenging.

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

@@automotiveterritory yes, ur right when ur off roading in a place like the Australian outback you need that range . . . one way to maximize range in a SBS eATV is carry less payload & consistent driving speeds . . . meaning no 0 - 100 kph under 6.0 secs or else you can forget range . . .

[@automotiveterritory]

Ranger XP Kinetic is one of the most powerful and advanced electric UTVs that exist today. More range and better specifications would require many more years of research and development.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

zerró get over ²0 pus noes 233 griginé bateryiés add 50 oeçrty mire rage right eeé you buy it

[@cdholmes241]

Instead of going electric, a better cleaner burning fuel would have been better. Or better new age gas engines are to be used!!!

[@ahbenshaut]

having some noise on trails where you cant see around corners is a good thing

[@automotiveterritory]

These aren't completely silent though

[@ahbenshaut]

@@automotiveterritory looks very cool though :)

[@saltbandit6768]

people clearly dont understand what zero emissions means

[@automotiveterritory]

Would you like to elaborate?

[@xxbambamxx7261]

This is just disgusting, you will never enjoy offroading with a EV..

[@automotiveterritory]

Have you tried it?

[@just_one_opinion]

Sounds just like a much gayer robin leach talking....soddo

[@errolpoxleitner9586]

I don't have the kind of money for this junk.

[@sharonbraselton4302]

ñot junçk 🎉

[@jodlen49]

:)

[@automotiveterritory]

How did you like the lineup?

[@larainebarton2103]

Overpriced e junk.

[@automotiveterritory]

How much do you think these should go for?