Find displacement on Ford FE 360 or 390 Episode 18 Manic Mechanic

[@griffparker1466]

Just bought a 67 galaxie 500 fastback 2 door with a 390 in it. Been sitting a while but looking forward to getting her up and running!

[@TheSpicyDill]

Hell yeah bruh. Got myself a 64 Galaxie with a 390 as well. Almost got mine running after having it for 6 months

[@danielbrewer8581]

@@TheSpicyDill I just picked up a 64 thunderbird with the 390 in it . Goin to start turning wrench in the morning.

[@debbiefisher2960]

I love it. So now I know. And I am so very very thankful for you and your info. I have a 1968 Ford 500 XL GT Fastback Galaxi with a factory 3 speed Columb shift. I was told it is a 390, but hey..I will take your word and check this idea out from what you told me. Again..thank you.

[@AutoRestoMod]

We're glad you are here! Unless it has been transplated, the 390 was normal for 1968. Love the XL and it being a GT is just icing on that cake!

[@debbiefisher2960]

Ok thank you. But I'm not sure on the GT part. But yeah I know it is a XL. Im sorry, but I'm a Chevy person. Older Chevys of the 50s to early 60s. At the moment I have a 70 Dodge Super Bee. A 78 Dodge Warlock. A 79 Lil' Red Express. Both 360s. The 70 SB is a 383 Mag. A 64 Chevy Chevelle factory 2 door station wagon inline 6 cyl, 2 speed automatic trans. I've no idea what to do with them at the moment. Now....these are not rust buckets by no means. Not a one has filler in them. But yes I enjoyed you're video. So now I know. Thank you.

[@paulnewkirk7351]

I had a 73 f100 with a 360. I expected more out of the engine, especially getting 14 mpg. I heard that a 352 intake would fit it and I had one for a 4 barrel carb. I got me a 600 cfm 4 barrel matched with the intake, put them on and it made the truck run like it was made for a road coarse. Not only that but it didnt matter how you drove it, 18 mpg was what it got.

[@AutoRestoMod]

If you can keep your foot out of it, a 4 barrel carb will out perform a 2 barrel.

[@paulnewkirk7351]

@@AutoRestoMod It is power when you need it plus, the 4 barrel set up alllowed it to breath better.

[@theovallas]

I have stock exhaust, and I installed a new Edelbrock 4 barrel intake & carb on my 360 and honestly, it didn't do anything to improve performance and there's no noticeable MPG improvement. I heard headers make a huge difference because the stock logs are so restrictive. Did you have headers or the stock exhaust manifolds?

[@paulnewkirk7351]

@@theovallas yes Mickey Thomsons, and I ran 3 in pipes from the collectors to the rear bumper.

[@olmoe1167]

Jeff, I just came across this video and thought I'd share something with you and the viewers... Take this way of checking the displacement as a 'Rough Idea',,, "as it being a Factory stock engine" Point being... Back in the Late '80's,, I bought a '75 F-100 pickup from a Gentleman, that was his son's.... His son had passed away a couple years prior and everything was being sold...All he could tell me about the truck, was that his boy had put headers and a Holley 4 Barrel on it and He thought it had a 360 or 390 engine, but didn't know which... just that it was a Big Block and his son was planning on Drag racing it.... After buying it and getting it home, I had my Stepdad take a look at it....(He worked in a FORD truck assembly plant for over 15 years back when these were being manufactured)....He did this same procedure that you just did and told me that I had a 360 engine....and the way it idled, that it had a Non-stock cam in it..... Anyway.... About 2 years later, I had a blown Head gasket and when we tore into it,, we found that it was NOT a 360, But a 390 with domed pistons that the man's son had installed.... Never would have known if we hadn't tore into it....Just sayin'... Keep up the great work, love the videos.....

[@AutoRestoMod]

I am a firm believer in "there is no always and never." Thanks for the heads up, great point!

[@rlprgp62]

My 75 F250 is VIN M it does have the 4 bbl 390. Great info, thanks so much.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Glad to help

[@Kangenpower7]

I had a 75 F-350 supercab, the first year Ford produced a lot of Supercabs and started to build crewcabs. Now you can hardly find a regular cab truck! 74 was the last year of the in cab fuel tanks, and 76 they introduced the over the shoulder seat belts. Mine had a 460" engine and C-6 from the factory, as well as the much desired 3.73:1 rear axle. I would turn around 2,700 RPM at 65 MPH, so a 3.54 would have been much better, and get better MPG. I rebuilt the distributor, and got a LOT more power out of the engine, rebuilding the distributor is something that should be done with a truck of that era! Surprising how much more power it made afterwards! The book that came with my 75 described all the options, and there where 3 or 4 engines in the truck, from 302, 360, 390, and mine at 460". They described how many more pounds are added to the front and rear axle, so you could calculate how many pounds are available to carry a camper! Even the second battery option, they said add 55 pounds to the front axle, and take away 7 from the rear axle.

[@joebarber4030]

Ford stroke for the FE - 410 and 428 is 3.98 it’s that easy!

[@AutoRestoMod]

yes.

[@joehill5828]

A quicker way is pull the dust plan off the bellhousing and look at the crank flange if it's got a half moon well as a square chip out is a 352 or 332 or 360 if it just has a square chip out of it'll be a 390 or 406 or 427 if it has none of the above it will be a 428 or 410

[@martinsmithjr.2777]

Owned a 1974 ford camper special 360 w auto trans lost oil pressure in 20° day drove 10 miles to my house then parked it and restarted it next morning built ford tough!

[@AutoRestoMod]

Right on!

[@lilorbielilorbie2496]

some times you get really lucky.

[@chrismontreuil2206]

lilorbie lilorbie right I got a 410 that way.

[@debbiefisher2960]

I bought a motor, so to say, it's supposed to be a 390. But...., I noticed on the driver's side of the block below the front of the head, a stamping read 352. I'm going to try that what you did with the 1 and 4 plug being that the motor is out sitting on the ground. I had just bought it to be a 390. I'm getting ready to place it in my 1968 Ford 500 Galaxi XL Fastback. I don't really want to put anything else in it but a 390.

[@navycop0270]

Because they used the same blocks.

[@et76039]

That marking has caused much confusion over the years, because it could be on almost any FE engine of at least 352 CID. The video's method is a much better verification than that block stamping you saw.

[@brkooduh66]

TDC: take off dizzy cap, take out #1 plug, hold finger in the plug hole, bump motor until air blows your finger off the hole...done

[@ChillkootMarkowee]

I've always wondered, were 390 FE V-8s ever equipped in halfton Ford trucks?

[@lilolecruisingarage7148]

Yes. The 390 was available in pick-ups from 1969 -75, for sure. I think they were still available in 1976 trucks, but were definitely gone by '77. I'm not sure if they were available in 1968, but the 352 was the only FE in '67 pick-up trucks.

[@ChillkootMarkowee]

Thanks for clearing it up with me!

[@kennybuckner3044]

They were used until 76

[@mrnovacan2158]

@@lilolecruisingarage7148 I bought a 1976 F100 actually ordered it in took 8 weeks for the delivery it had the 390 2 barrel had I ordered the F150 it would have had the 390 4 barrel, I paid $5860 for it back then!

[@jeffrykopis5468]

Yep, lots of em.

[@jesseduke694]

You sed there no way to tell if its a 428? The 410 & 428 both had 3.98 stroke vs. The 390/406/427s 3.78 stroke. So the same method can tell you what stroke it is. The 352 & 360 both use the same stroke crank, just diffarent bore. But you can usually go by the year for those engines. The 360 took the place of the 352 so if its 67 its probably a 352 but if its a 68 its probably a 360. There is probably a small grey area in there.

[@tommyasprion4394]

Your conclusion was you really couldn't tell the difference between 390&428 with your method-yes you can! 390-3.78 stroke,428- 3.98!

[@docyates3228]

Jeff, I have a question which I know you can answer. Not realted to this video but one you did previously. I have a 67 Mustang CVT, factory PS, A/T. It has the early 67 long shaft steering. I am going to replace it and I know there are several options. I saw a video where you went with the Borgeson steering box. And it appeared to me that you used the parts which were already there (Pittman arm, cylinder, control valve). I was wondering if I could use the Borgeson steering box and keep my current parts, rebuild my control valve ande use my current Pittman arm. If I do this will I have to go with the Borgeson power steering pump and change linkages and other things, or just be able to replace the box? Another alternative is to use the Formoco steering box which I have, cut off the shaft and install a coupler so I could use the IDIDIT steering column. This would be "easier" since I could retain the parts I have which are in good shape, but I am still left with the original steering box which is prone to leak. The one I have looks to be in good shape and the linkage feel good with no skips or hangups. The engine is out of the car and I am rebuilding it from the ground up, so before I replace the engine (302) and transmission (C4), now seems like a good time to tackle this issue. I have learned alot from watching your videos, and trust your opinion in this matter. Thanks for the help

[@AutoRestoMod]

I believe Borgeson offers a pitman arm end cap that allows the use of the Borgeson box with the old power steering pitman arm. We would use a new/rebuilt Ford pump or the Borgenson; your old pump has trash in it that can contaminate the new box. The other components will stay stock. You won't need to change anything. If you stay stock PS get the alignment shop to give you 3 degrees of positive caster. We achieved this with 3/8 of shims on the front bolt of the upper A-arm.

[@omarleyva9864]

Awesome work y’all do with this bump side. Do you know if there’s any way I can put a automatic 5 speed trans on my 360

[@AutoRestoMod]

The automatic part is where the problem comes in. Since the FE was long gone by the time the Automatic overdrive came into use, the only way to get even four gears is to buy a AOD and get an adapter plate OR invest in a Gear Vendors overdrive which bolts to your existing C6 and gives overdrive and can split the lower gears on the C6.

[@omarleyva9864]

AutoRestoMod Car Restoration Modification thanks I apriciate responding my question

[@Kangenpower7]

You might be better off looking for a fuel injected engine with a 4 speed automatic. They tend to get better MPG, and have much more power than your 360. And change the rear axle ratio to something like a 3.07:1 or at the most 3.54:1. With a 4.10:1, the engine will spin way to fast to get good mileage. But the lower RPM, along with a higher HP motor, you will still have power and get decent MPG if you try hard enough. My Ford Edge has a 3.5L V6, 265 factory HP rating, and runs around 1,500 RPM in 6th gear at 65 MPH. I get 18 - 22 MPG with it. Wish I could put one of those motors in a older looking truck, it would run great!

[@forestlawrencegrading9154]

You can do the same thing another one that is tough to tell what it is is a small block Chevy if its 3 and 3/4 it's a 383 stroker or 377 or 400 if it's around three and a half it's a 350 if it's three and a quarter that's a 327 if its 3 inches it's a 302 or 283

[@AutoRestoMod]

Cool thanks for the heads up.

[@forestlawrencegrading9154]

AutoRestoMod Car Restoration Modification I love them old Fe engines only reason I started fooling with the orange ones now is because I can get one of them complete for what it cost to do the heads on the Fe I always ran a fe in a pickup truck I was never scared of them Chevy boys unless they had a big block I also like Dodge if you worked on them all enough times you realize they all have similarities the small block Chevy water pump is very similar to the Fe water pump with four bolts and the Dodge rocker arm assembly is very similar to the Fe the Dodge are pretty simple to identify the small blocks it stamped right on the side near the freeze plugs whether it's a 318 or 360 you know it's a small block if the distributors in the back it's a big block if it's in the front

[@AutoRestoMod]

Yeah, Chevy stuff in general is miles cheaper.

[@lilolecruisingarage7148]

Same method should also apply to Ford 351M/400 engines.

[@chrismontreuil2206]

Who cares about cheby here. Junk.

[@rayspringer8055]

Good info...

[@AutoRestoMod]

Thanks!

[@10susan10]

Timing pointer???? 3.78 vs 3.98 rounds out to 3 3/4 vs 4"

[@reverend099]

glad someone said it, no way to tell the difference, maybe you shouldn`t be making vids if you don`t know that

[@troyboltonsr5886]

Hi just wanted to know if this would work to tell if my motor is a ford 351m or 400

[@AutoRestoMod]

Nope. This could help you maybe: web.archive.org/web/20041102162336/home.earthlink.net/~bubbaf250/parts/parts02.html

[@troyboltonsr5886]

Thank you for the information

[@rickmcdaniel9685]

Why not just check the cast number

[@AutoRestoMod]

Not that straight forward.

[@anthonyortiz8289]

RIP

[@AutoRestoMod]

?

[@stevencorry5790]

First

[@pisibish6111]

Not a gt.

[@AutoRestoMod]

OK. Mind enlightening us on "why"?

[@yetirn8786]

I'm still kicking myself for getting rid of my 72 that had a 390 (out of a 1970 Grand Torino).

[@Terminxman]

I bought some frankenstein 79 F150 last year that had a crusty old 360 swapped in it, had it rebuilt with a 390 crank/rods. Definitely a long term project but its' running

[@lorenzomaximo1818]

With todays aftermarket engine offerings heads, cranks rods, pistons and cams all FE motors are great performance engines. even the 352 is a keeper today. With the right stroker kit they can be built to make almost 600 hp just for starters.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Survival Motorsports offers a ton of stuff to make the FE series engines a superior performer.

[@markbergthold6181]

My '70 F250 CS had a 428 FE in it, no #s on block. Used stroke calc & crank code to id. Had to replace oil pan with a 428CJ pan. Unfortunately after we got it running, it had low compression, just as I moved 1,000 miles to build a retirement home. Due to $ & logistics, I decided to replace it w/a reman 390 (OE) & the 428 was the core. I put a 428 hood badge on the glove box lid, a reminder of its history.

[@jeffblack1644]

Great video! I would point out that while the 360 was never put in a car, it only went in light duty trucks and is not an FT.

[@billbrown5853]

I pulled a 360 out of a 69 Mach 1 years ago.

[@jeffrykopis5468]

The only difference between a 352 and 360 is a 4.00" bore, vs 4.05". Interesting thing is, all FE blocks have 352 cast into the front drivers side of the block. That could trip up some people.

[@jeffrykopis5468]

@@billbrown5853 It wasn't factory. Someone threw that in there to hoodwink either their Dad, or a buyer.

[@jhmonthetube6339]

@@billbrown5853Bill, it wasn’t from the factory. Someone transplanted it probably thinking they had a 390 !

[@GorillaCookies]

I bought a clean 68 f100 short box last year that was supposed to be a 360 and C6 auto. It ran really rough and I could tell it was running rather lean with a retarded ignition timing. Payed $500 cash for it and As soon as I drove it I knew it sure wasn't a 360 . I got it home and measured the stroke and it was 3.98 . Turned out to be a 1967 428 A scratch block with extra main webbing with a motorcraft 2 bbl and the 360 intake and log style exhaust manifold's. It now has a comp 268 H cam , Edelbrock street master intake, Holley 750 center dump 4 barrel, ceramic coated headers with custom x pipe and 40 series flowmasters . MSD ignition system and Distributor. Tremec 5600 5 speed and semi floating Dana 60 with power lock rear diff and 4.10 gears. Truck is very quick . No idea regarding HP and Torque numbers but their much higher than a 360 lol

[@et76039]

Nice find.

[@jay-gi9dk]

check under the coil the engine tag is there if it hasn't been messed with.or check the number and letter code it will tell you the year and division to see if it's original

[@AutoRestoMod]

The engine in the Truck is a 390 from a Thunderbird or Galaxie. The engine tag is missing so we won't ever know for sure.

[@AutoRestoMod]

The engine in the Truck is a 390 from a Thunderbird or Galaxie. The engine tag is missing so we won't ever know for sure.

[@jay-gi9dk]

@@AutoRestoMod we used to run into a lot of this.used to buy old engines out of old trucks to rebuild to truck pull at the local county fairs in the 80's

[@bryan53566]

If its been swapped, chances are the tag is missing. Even if its there, you never trust a tag that you can change out in 2 minutes.

[@the_hillbillytransportatio3143]

@@AutoRestoMod the factory engine size is stamped in the block in like three places. Driver side front right under the cylinder head two sets of number bottom one is engine size

[@mrerob1]

Hope you all enjoyed the holidays, I have a ?. I have stripped my 65 Fairlane down the only thing left is the metal part of the dash, heater box, and front suspension. And I have still yet to find the fuse box, I thought it would be around the drivers kick panel or under the dash right beside the kick panel, any ideas?

[@AutoRestoMod]

Mustang and Falcon of that era are right by the headlight switch.

[@calebshaw7531]

Glove box maybe

[@brianfrancis2862]

i got a 360 is it worth the build

[@AutoRestoMod]

Sure, you can poke it out to a larger displacement too!

[@jeffrykopis5468]

One error: In addition to a bigger 4.13 bore, the 428 has a 3.98 stroke. The longest of any FE. Conversely, a 427 has a huge 4.23 bore and a 3.78 stroke, same stroke as a 390. Theoretically, you could put a 428 crank in a 427 block (4.23 + .030 x 3.98), and get a 454. Few ever did, because 427 cranks were steel, 428 cranks cast iron.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Thanks for the info!

[@jay-gi9dk]

we bought a 360 in a old ford and when we tore it down to rebuild it was a 410 merc motor from the 60s

[@bryan53566]

If it was a "Mercury" engine it was an MEL. The MEL looks nothing like an FE. Both the MEL and the FE had 410 displacements.

[@danieltrue1689]

I believe The Mercury FE was a 406.

[@rmo4222]

@@bryan53566 wrong! mercury had 410 FEs in 66 and 67, difference was 428 rotating assemble. Flywheel must match 428 due to external balancing. if you mismatch them you will blow the rods and crank.

[@brianfrancis2862]

are 360 worth the build i have one with bad crank tor it down it has .030 over pistons in it

[@et76039]

@@bryan53566 , there was indeed an MEL engine of that displacement, but it was used only in the 1958 Edsel Citation and Corsair.

[@joehill5828]

Then check the bore but that is mire invasive the block numbers vary pending in year

[@redmanaaron97]

I suppose I didn't really need to watch this video since I know the difference between the 360 and the 390, but at least I know there's not a better way to figure out which one I have lmao

[@AutoRestoMod]

Thanks for watching!

[@rmo4222]

you can tell 428 if its standard ( I Don't remember auto flex plate) has thicker external balanced Flywheel. I sure the auto flex plate di also, but can't remember. what ever you do you don't want to get the flywheels from 428 mixed with any other FE engine other than 410 Mercury which had 428 Crank and flywheel in 66 and 67 only.

[@davetrenholm7291]

The 428 is externally balanced, you should see that on the flywheel and the harmonic balancer.

[@dennisschell5543]

Mine is neither one.....It's a 410!!! (428 crank 😉)

[@jarakharmison3982]

Dennis Schell hell yeah! My brother had a 410 stroke in an 89 f-150 and it screams.

[@rmo4222]

@@jarakharmison3982 Mercury came out the 410 in 66 and 67 in parklanes. I use to have one. IMO the Best of the 352 4.05 Bore BLocks. if you use 428 crank you have to use the 428 flywheel. due to external balance.

[@purpurahaze9179]

What little I can see of the engine it doesn't look gt engine to me

[@debbiefisher2960]

Ok. I have a question for you, is both the 360 factory intake and the 390 factory intake are they same identical one with a 2 barrel?

[@theovallas]

Yes

[@jesseduke694]

Yes the 2bbl intakes are the same identical intakes. However the 360 never was avaliable with a 4bbl but the 390 was. So if its a 4bbl its a 390 or someone has changed it & put the 4bbl from a 390 on the 360. Most dont bother putting the 4bbl on the 360, they are more likely to swap the entire engine to the 390

[@youngestson6537]

Very informative video.

[@chrisbrunswig5882]

Vin # will have an H for 390 and a Y for 360. Easy to remember because Y = why would you want a 360 and H = Hulk

[@AutoRestoMod]

As old as these trucks are, there is no telling what has been transplanted.

[@fordman4287]

A 428 or Merc 410 has a 3.98 stroke

[@AutoRestoMod]

Yes.

[@Kangenpower7]

A friend of mine bought a older Ford and when the engine finally died, he went to a junkyard and bought a used engine out of a T-Bird. When that engine was not making the power it should, he sent the engine to get rebuilt, and to his surprise, like you are, it was a 428! Happy grin on his face! This was back in the 80's. When it was easy to get a T-Bird engine ni a junkyard, they seemed to run into things back then.

[@jimoliver7180]

Remember, 428 has a 3.98 stroke so basically it measures 4 in. So if it has a 3.98 stroke its either 410 or 428 depends on bore size. 390 stroke 3.78 is shared with a 406 shared w

[@snoopy9244]

The only thing you got wrong is quoting the the 428 having to measure the bore to tell the difference. The 427 actually has the big bore 4.23" with the 390's 3.78 stroke while the 428 has the longer stroke 3.98 and 4.13 bore.

[@AutoRestoMod]

I have a big brain... just not big enough.

[@snoopy9244]

@@AutoRestoMod I'm sure you've forgotten more than I'll ever know. With reading some of the comments just wanted to mention it because the 427 is kind of the odd man out in the family not to mention expensive!

[@sotos2428]

My truck has 2 small holes in the passenger side manifold one is for the choke but the other one I don’t know, any advice

[@AutoRestoMod]

Those are for the hot air choke lines.

[@sotos2428]

@@AutoRestoMod i see that one but the other one i don’t know

[@bent166]

If you shaved you hair you would be hank Schrader off braking bad 😆

[@AutoRestoMod]

If I shaved my head, I'd look like a Klingon from Star Trek TNG.

[@reader5611]

Hilarious, totally could be a stand in double.

[@ElderlyIron]

Are we happy about that? Yes, we are!

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

guy told me once his FE stood for "Factory Expiremental".....i told him thats funny cause my SCJ-428s FE stood for "Ford-Edsel"... they all say 352, even though the first ones were 332s...all 428s were externally balanced and have a huge "knot" counterweight in the harmonic balancer and corresponding flex-plate or flywheel....the 410 also...which utilized the 428 crankshaft...all other FEs were internally balanced.

[@jimjungle1397]

I had a 1964 390 that said 352 cast on the engine block.

[@Imnotyourdoormat]

@@jimjungle1397 yep........

[@MattsRageFitGarage]

Actually, FE stands for..."Fuckin' Expensive". Building my second FE now and it's not cheap.

[@VeryOddTimes]

So there is absolutely no way to tell if it’s a 352, 360, or 390 just by looking at it? I’ve taken my truck to 4 different mechanics, they have all told me that it’s 390 just by taking a gander. One of them is an older gentleman, told me that just by looking at (I don’t remember) that he could tell it was a 390. So idk if this is bs or not without actually doing what you did, or tearing apart the actual engine.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Only way to tell is the way we show. Now that these vehicles are so old, blocks have been changed, 352's bored out to 390s...SO the best way? the old stick in the hole...

[@fredkaminski6138]

How do you tell a 390 from a 428?

[@AutoRestoMod]

Stroke on a 428 would be 3.98 or almost 4 inches.

[@chrismontreuil2206]

Were talking from the outside without taking it apart.

[@jay-gi9dk]

running the casting numbers may help.certain heads were used only on certain engines.what is beautiful is the heads can be swap from a 352 all the way up to the 428. the 429 is a different engine type i think it a 385 block i could be wrong

[@No-vm7go]

@@chrismontreuil2206 My understanding is that the 428 block was different from the 390 block, so casting numbers should be able to provide the answer.

[@christiantaverajr4606]

I have a 1972 f250 ford ranger camper special I’m 19 and I need help trying to find where I can find a Crankshaft for it, I have a 390 engine so it needs tow fit that if any of y’all know where I could find it that would be great

[@AutoRestoMod]

I'd call Survival Motorsports: [phone] he specializes in the Ford FE. Barry is an absolute guru on those engines.

[@jthomp997]

Is there a problem with the 360? I recently bought a truck and the side of the engine said it was a 360. Should I be worried about anything

[@AutoRestoMod]

Gas mileage. Don't expect more than about 12 MPG out of a 360 in a truck. You CAN get more but on average, they are not great at sipping fuel.

[@mariothemechanic]

It's OK they are similar

[@godsowndrunk1118]

And what do we have if it comes to 3.3?

[@AutoRestoMod]

330? I was told there would be no math.

[@godsowndrunk1118]

@@AutoRestoMod lol ..332 was offered along with the 352 in 1958...,Edsel got the 361...4.05 x 3.5

[@n5ifi]

There is a way to tell if its a 428. Look at the balance. 390 will be internally balanced and a 428 is externally balanced.

[@jeffrykopis5468]

428s have a 3.98 stroke. So you'd see 4" on your dowel.

[@realdrumbeats8920]

Ya knowwww, there is no bumper to bumper library of how to vids per car, per year. specially for classics. Just sayen, that there is an open niche. For my contribution please start with the 1971 f250 custom. Thank you. God bless America! I approve this message.

[@AutoRestoMod]

We have sections on the www.autorestomod.com website broken out by make (only Ford and Chevy right now). Then further broken out by area (electrical, engine, etc.) but we haven't tried to break it out more by car. Neat idea but w don't have the people power to do it.

[@realdrumbeats8920]

The glass and paint and body buttons not working on your website?@@AutoRestoMod

[@rydstallion75]

Will this work to tell the difference between a 361, and 391 truck engine?

[@AutoRestoMod]

Yes

[@TracyKearTk]

Okay I have a 1974 Ford Highboy F250 four-wheel drive came with the 360 I had the motor rebuilt he put a 272 cam 11 to 1 compression ratio is it a 390 now or is it a 360 still.?

[@AutoRestoMod]

Unless he did a 390 crank and rods, you still have a 360. A very STOUT 360.

[@TracyKearTk]

I guess I'll get a towel rod and put the cylinder wall on top dead center and checked out in cylinder 4 and see what I got 3 and 3/4 would be a 390 + 3 and 1/2 360 is that correct.?

[@eduardogarcia6516]

THIS METHOD IS ROUGH AT BEST. GOOD LUCK CENTERING A DOWEL IN EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE TWICE. ESPECIALLY WHEN MOST ALL THESE PISTONS IN THESE FE MOTORS HAVE VALVE RELIEFS OR DISHES. PULL THE PAN AND READ THE NUMBER OFF THE CRANK. ALSO NOT A GT IT WOULD HAVE 3 HOLES PER EXHAUST PORT NOT JUST TWO.

[@AutoRestoMod]

We were not looking for a hard number on displacement, Just a quick way to identify if it is a 390 or 360--something that could be done while buying a car. You are correct in stating that you will have to remove the pan to find out more. I misspoke about the GT part of it, you are correct that the GT head would have the 3 bolt holes, the 360 head would have the boss but not be drilled. Not an FE expert by any stretch. I didn't bother looking for casting numbers or anything.

[@slickwilly5851]

@@AutoRestoMod I have a set of GT heads, only 2 holes & also have the J heads 2 holes, also have R heads, 2 holes, any way you can make the other holes if you need them, so far, there just setting around

[@realdrumbeats8920]

I just picked up a 71 f250 w/trailer upgrades. Can you do a dip stick tube replacement please? THEN rebuild the door windows felt and all. Thanks yer a peach.

[@AutoRestoMod]

Window felts, door weatherstrips are all in the Que.

[@realdrumbeats8920]

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[@jimh4167]

Wrong The 406 has a 4.125 bore 3.75 stroke The 410 has a 4 inch bore 3.98 stroke The 428 has a 4.125 bore and 3.98 stroke The 427 has a 4.25 bore and 3.75 stroke More or less (a few thousands)

[@jesseduke694]

Jim, your wrong?? The 410 isn't a 4.000 bore, its a 4.05 bore with the 3.98 stroke. The 390 ,406, & 427 use 3.78 stroke not 3.75. Alot of people just say 3 3/4 to idacate its a 390. But actual stroke is 3.78. The bore of the 406 & 428 is 4.130. The 427 is 4.230.

[@jt9462]

You can tell of its a 428 by the front pulley system cause 428 is externally balanced

[@AutoRestoMod]

Only the 428 CJ is externally balanced.

[@rmo4222]

@@AutoRestoMod flywheels has to match 428 they are thicker and think have something to do with external balance. I had 67 F100 that I put 410 in, I had to by 428 flywheel the 352, 360, 390 flywheel would not work on 428 rotating assemble.

[@sgtbigtoe7640]

Pull the pan look at crank counter weights, wedge shape 390, straight shape 360

[@Zach-k2p]

Or just pull a plug and get a straw and marker lmao geez guy work smarter not harder

[@sgtbigtoe7640]

@@Zach-k2p Duly noted Zach, just assuming people are going to go through the motor anyway, great videos, keep em coming👍

[@musclebone7875]

I know that I have a 496😆👍

[@AutoRestoMod]

Lucky dude!

[@musclebone7875]

AutoRestoMod Muscle Car Resto and Modifications thanks👍

[@No-vm7go]

Bought a 71 F100 and I'm never selling it. My understanding is that the 360 & 390 use exactly the same block, so getting a 390 out of a 360 is as easy as swapping the 360 crank (and heads) for the 390 crank (and heads). Supposedly, the 390 block (as it's called) will also take a 428 crank, though you can't get 428 CI out of it b/c the block doesn't have a deep enough stroke (lower deck height from the factory).

[@AutoRestoMod]

The 352, 360, 390 and 428 share a common block, major difference is the stroke and bore on them: 352 4.002 in (101.7 mm) 3.500 in (88.9 mm) 360 4.052 in (102.9 mm) 3.500 in (88.9 mm) 390 4.052 in (102.9 mm) 3.784 in (96.1 mm) 406 4.130 in (104.9 mm) 3.784 in (96.1 mm) 410 4.054 in (103.0 mm) 3.98 in (101 mm) 427 4.232 in (107.5 mm) 3.784 in (96.1 mm) 428 4.132 in (105.0 mm) 3.98 in (101 mm). The thing that is an issue is wall thickness. You CAN use a 390 block and bore it out to 428, but some 390s are too thin in areas due to core shift. Sonic the block and have it checked for adequate thickness before you bore. Cylinder heads are all the same dimensionally but have different ports, combustion chambers and valve sizes.

[@treylyde999]

Does the heat cover help with exhaust leak against the cab on driver side

[@AutoRestoMod]

Not sure what you are talking about.

[@treylyde999]

@@AutoRestoMod heat shield between the manifold and head. Silver thing. My new gasket didnt seal well and I didnt use the shield