Frieren: Beyond Journey's End 1x28: "It Would Be Embarrassing When..." // Reaction & Discussion

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Anna and Ben react and discuss episode 28 of Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. Check it out! #frieren #frierenbeyondjourneysend
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[@autisticusmaximus9562]

This anime/manga has made such a cultural impact on people that: “A Taiwanese man who helped to stop a knife attack on a train in Taichung city has cited an anime hero as his inspiration, local media reported. Mr Hsu Rui-hsian, dubbed Long-Haired Bro by local media, was one of 17 civilians who stopped a knife-wielding man on a train near Taichung City Hall station in May. ‘Even if I had to do it again, I’d make the same choice’ said Mr Hsu, a fitness coach and powerlifter. ‘It’s what the hero Himmel would have done.’”

[@juanthegreat3954]

Chad Himmel enjoyers

[@cokecan6169]

himmel would have done the same

[@moss8809]

“Himmel the Hero loved stopping knife attacks. 🙂” - Frieren probably

[@cerenin_rn]

I’m come from Taiwan. That guy is a true hero.

[@seananime_copying]

It surprised me that the people who know this thing is more than I thought 😂

[@andrewlucaschism]

Sign outside Continental Magic Association: No Smoking, No Food, No Drink, No Frieren

[@Cryogenx37]

*Steps out of the elevator at the Magic Association* "Remember, Sousou no Frieren"

[@shodan1451]

Picture of her by every register: "Do not take checks from this elf"

[@eduardoff_DL]

😂😂😂

[@GameMaster-sh7tr]

The fact that y’all aren’t even sad to finish it is so perfect and aligns with the themes of the show.

[@thatguy3362]

Except they kinda were...

[@malcolmx5167]

The theme of remembrance is the most important message imo.

[@rendezvousonmemorylane]

@@thatguy3362 Shush, you saw nothing!!!

[@thatguy3362]

@@rendezvousonmemorylane lol

[@josh9110]

"Death isn't the only goodbye in this life" Wirbel dropping bars

[@ivanalarcon1418]

Though

[@cheracle]

himmel's legacy transcends beyond just in fictional world. bro so goated not only he inspired a man to stop an attack in public transportation, he also inspired elementary school kids to do their homeworks when they procrastinated. many also tried to try to be reconnect to their friends, families after watching frieren. he, to me personally, also taught that you don't have to do grand thing to leave behind a memory, just "insignificant little thing" is enough.

[@reverendnon5959]

Ben not being sad about show's ending fits it sooo much!

[@labrynianrebel]

Himmel approved!

[@D_dompa]

Ben is our guy!

[@Bukidsm]

"Tearful goodbyes aren't our style, after all it would be embarrassing when we meet again" was the last thing Frieren recall of Himmel in his burial in episode one.

[@Duall8]

Notably, this was an anime addition, but a really good one imo to bookend the season as they added it to episode one in anticipation of this scene.

[@raec5426]

​@@Duall8It's not anime original, it's in ch 60 too

[@cyberdude4330]

When it became certain that they'll never meet again, she gave him a tearful goodbye.

[@Duall8]

@@raec5426 The line is, but not the bit of Himmel walking away that Frieren recalls both here and at the funeral (that's connecting to that line as cyberdude explains).

[@raec5426]

@@Duall8 The flashback of Himmel and party saying goodbye to the random guy is there for it. That other part is just visual of scene they had before again.

[@cleverfox1960]

Fun Fact I read from another commentor was in the outro of this ep. Ehre is introducing Wirbel to her Grandfather lernen. She makes reference to her grandfather, a first class mage, in ep 19 and 20.

[@rantingrodent416]

Wow, and she said "It feels like I'm fighting my grandfather" when she was fighting Fern. That's a high compliment.

[@coffee7973]

I think the reason why they went for 28 episodes instead of the usual 24 eps is so the ending of the season will fit perfectly. Also the director and animators deserve a huge credit, in the manga it feels goodbye for other characters but in the anime it felt as goodbye for the anime and us viewet. It was perfectly executed.

[@gilgameshlfx7006]

The first 4 episodes being aired back-to-back so technically they are following the usual 24/25 episodes format.

[@indras0125]

without us realizing it, the final message is for the audience. Don't be sad, because maybe we'll meet again in the next season. but for the audience, that sentence actually makes us cry

[@DavidGarcia-kw4sf]

There is plenty of material in the manga for a second season (based on what I have heard) so that bodes well for more Frieren in the future. 🍧🍪🥞🍺

[@Doodlesthegreat]

The animators did something to make sure we got the message. When Himmel is speaking, Frieren is down and to his right. But look at his pupil. It's not focused on her. It's focused directly behind him. It's focused on us. "The journey to Ende continues."

[@codysteele3499]

Lernen is Ehre’s grandfather. She told Wirbel when they were party members that she would introduce him to her grandfather, and you can her introducing them in the end credits

[@tamarlevy5949]

ben saying he's not sad and regretting it in the middle of the episode 😂 i was crying the entire episode when i first watched it. i'm really hoping for season 2.

[@zade8586]

I want one but also fear that it’d never be able to reach the highs of season 1. It feels like one of those lightning in a bottle things that only comes around at a certain place and time with a certain group of people. Like Cowboy bebop or One Punch man season 1.

[@tamarlevy5949]

@@zade8586 i don't think i'd fear that with frieren because all it ever was at the end is a story about frieren. the show doesn't try to do crazy things like cowboy bebop & opm, it's only trying to tell her story. but i get that fear bc i have that with arcane s2 lol

[@zade8586]

@@tamarlevy5949 yeah no it’s weird cause at the same time I totally believe they can capture the magic again, it’s just not possible to totally brush away that doubt on something you love lol, you know how it is.

[@tamarlevy5949]

@@zade8586 for sure!!!

[@ASTRO_LOFI]

it was a mere 28 episodes.... see you later Frieren!

[@BlackhaloZ]

It will only be a mere 10 years for season 2.

[@yao106]

I just realized why we didn't encounter a clone of Land in the maze after re-watch this episode in this video😭

[@juanthegreat3954]

7:19 Good detail in the anime: When Wirbel mentioned Himmel, Frieren's eye flinched a little

[@WonSab]

Two fun echoes of earlier stuff in this episode: First, Serie giving Übel another instance where she has an exchange with another character about whether or not something is necessary (previous instances being Wirbel in the first exam and Denken in the second). Given the direct reduction in her kill-rate over time after the first exam, there's probably something to be said about her picking up some metaphorical restraint along with learning Sorganiel from the guy who uses it to hold off on killing people. Second, Frieren calling mages who only know how to fight "awkward" - she makes that same observation about warriors back in the episode with Stark's birthday, and on their way into Aüßerst Stark observes that a lot of the qualities Frieren says are important for a mage sound like warrior qualities. Bonus third round: Serie being disappointed that most of her apprentices never reached her level but not being able to tell them how she feels about them brings to mind Lord Orden's answer to Stark about his surviving son Mut ("He'll be a better swordsman than me some day." "You should tell him that." "I did. It went to his head and he stopped improving.") and Kanne's flashback to her flight class with Lawine ("If it'll help you fly, I'll be as nice to you as you want." "So you can fly after all. I'm done being nice to you.") There's a lot of rhyming history in Frieren and I look forward to when we can finally see these folks again in Season 2.

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

Regarding your bonus point on Serie, I can agree that praise may stunt growth and make someone overconfident/lazy/etc. However, I don't think that Serie's method is correct either. She's (almost) actively/constantly insulting her students (she doesn't feel that way but they can't tell that). This kinda creates a toxic relationship. See instead how Frieren is hard on Fern when it comes to it (like pushing her in Ep3 practice duel that they had and admonishing her for not reading the magical history textbook/tome), but also praises her and is honest with her like at the end of Ep28.

[@WonSab]

@@Diablos-pi2qy I definitely wasn't making a value judgment on Serie's approach so much as observing its place in a trend - Frieren as a story is also quite direct about praise and emotional support being for more than just children (see Frieren's interactions with Sein and the sick episode shortly after that).

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

@@WonSab I can agree with that. 👍

[@LatrinalDuckling]

My guy Land really in on that work from home mindset 🤣

[@BhlackBishop]

madlad

[@user-si4rt4bp7e]

６０才の日本人です。６０years old Japanese. 子供の頃、終わって欲しくないアメリカのTVドラマが沢山ありました。during my childhood, there were a lot of TV drama s that many people didn't want to end.フリーレンを見てるとそれを思い出します。watching Frieren remands me of that.このアニメは、その事に関する日本からの感謝のお返しの１つだと思います。I think, this amime is one way that japan gives back in gratitude for that.

[@lewstherintelamon244]

If I didn't know better, this season finale could have convinced me that Frieren was an anime original. It's almost freaky how well the end of this arc works for the both a wrap up the first season and a tantalizing taste of what is to come.

[@Airwave2k2]

The author had good editors helping them to structure the manga and perhaps also thought ahead for an adaptation to anime how to set up chapters to get things neatly packaged.

[@rediciclepop4639]

@@Airwave2k2Is that even true? Every arc in the manga has always had a good concluding chapter. I don’t think it necessarily was made with the anime in mind. I mean you can even see it in episode 13 with the end of the Aura arc.

[@Airwave2k2]

@@rediciclepop4639 I assume it to be very likely since Frieren is published in Shōnen Sunday with decades long experience since 1959. They have the staff to work with the authors from the start of the publication. I guess strongly they recognized the potential and gave advice for structure from early on to fit. Also with winning an award I guess the decision for an anime adaptation was more so on the table than before. And from there on rounding it out to fit in the 11-14 episode per season structure was taken into consideration even more.

[@rediciclepop4639]

@@Airwave2k2 I mean Shounen Sunday was in a crisis with its editorial staff for the past few years and only got its stuff together recently with the previous editor-in-chief. It’s not impossible that editors were involved but I’d rather credit the actual writer, Kanehito Yamada. It’s clear they know how to write a story. Hell, the editor even said they barely had to make any edits to the drafts they’re given. It’s not like the arcs are even structured to fit proper season lengths. The series notably had 28 episode that’s why out of the stand 24-26 that would come from most 2-cour seasonals. The next season is actually going to pose a bit of a challenge because at the pace of the adaptation, a standard length is going to position the end in a weird spot.

[@Airwave2k2]

@@rediciclepop4639 You are right that the author will though of it too. It is not to credit the editors, but they are something to bounce of ideas, give ideas and advise. Having a crisis doesn't mean all experience is gone, it just means that the focus shifts to the highly valued prospects to get out of it eventually. How the decision was made to conclude the arc I don't know. How the segments of the exam arc work they also could have cut after the second exam and opened a 3rd cour with the 3rd part of the exam. The release was unconventional to begin with the premier of 4 episodes in one and a 2 cour that is. Maybe at some point information comes out how the decisions were made. But going back to the 28th episode that at its end is a send off written in seems to be deliberate with an anime adaptation in mind and conclusion for the arc. It just worked out that this is the best way to adapt the manga and everybody involved agreed to it I guess.

[@Fafnir7159]

Thank you for the wonderful reactions trough out the whole season 1 of Frieren. I can confidently say this channel is the best when it comes to reactions to frieren.

[@srlobe]

I concur. They really stood out among the "reactors" of Frieren, and I watched quite a few of them. An effort worth watching every second of their videos.

[@DarwinAwardWinner]

You've for sure hit on one of the core themes of the show with memory. Think back to the Old Man Voll episode. Or the intermission between exams 1& 2 with the flashback of Himmel saying to change someone's life in order to be remembered.

[@TheAnanthvarma]

not sure if you guys noticed or I missed it in the discussion but in the end credits they show Lernen is Ehre's grandfather so Ehre was comparing Fern's fighting style to Lernen's when they fought :)

[@sayu8795]

If god forbid there is no season 2 or end to the series I would of course be so bitter and disappointed but at the same time surprisingly ok due to the fact that this show was made so well in that it feels like a window into the characters lives and this world rather than for us the audience to live and experience it. So I mean it feels like a privilege to have been able to observe a piece of it than a right to see it through til the end. I loved your reactions to this show. Hands down my favorite reaction to it. Your reactions themselves have a rewatchability factor to it 😁

[@doppleganger9602]

Absolute peak fiction

[@luzviminda795]

Frieren is the only anime for a long time where it got me excited every week again waiting for the next episode. Before, I'm pretty much tired of anime for many years because i've watched so many animes and probably have watched 1000+ of them(i've been watching anime continously for almost 20 years). Especially when almost all of anime are following the same trope over and over again. That's why even popular animes now that alot of people get hyped for like MHA, chainsaw man, JJK, solo leveling, demon slayer, etc. I can't even finish those because of how many generic tropes they have (it make sense though, why change the tropes if it still works right? They still make money doing those tropes) I can't even finish most of anime now i just ended up just watching 2 or 3 episodes i immediately get bored and stop watching. That's why I'm happy that watching frieren somehow made me feel the joy of watching anime again.

[@BlackhaloZ]

The Frieren vs. Denken cliffhanger sent me to the manga. Now I drool over just the idea of season 2.

[@stonewallhackson2927]

You’ve seen a ton more anime than me so I may just need to keep watching more but surprised to see chainsaw man in that list of “tropey” anime you have, currently I would disagree

[@Chris3s]

@@stonewallhackson2927 while chainsaw man is good overall and has good moments, many of the characters/interactions are quite tropey.

[@funsnake4705]

@@stonewallhackson2927from what I’ve heard. If you’re an anime-only watcher of CSM, you are more inclined to feel like it’s a generic shonen. But the things I get from manga readers make me excited for more since it sounds like we will get a lot more deep character writing. If you’re an anime-only watcher, I want to know your opinion on how CSM is not on the same tier as JJK in terms of writing.

[@lukasslama1548]

@@stonewallhackson2927 I dont know why it suprises you, Chainsaw man for me feels extremely tropey, now i am anime only but the first season didnt seem like anything special, apart from music and animation which was great, the characters didnt seem unique apart from Makima, so i totalyl understand the guy, all of the shonens have quite basic premis especially at the begining, now it may change with chainsaw man in the future season but some people may drop it before it comes to that, oposed to that if you watch something liie Mushoku or Frieren, it feels like a breat of fresh air from the beggining and it is awesome

[@armandhaliwal610]

No matter how many times i watch this series it has the agility to make me cry every single time 😢😭 it will be embarrassing when meeting next time lol

[@ThisisDaniel]

Thank you for reviewing this show. It's been a truly great experience re-living this with your perspectives.

[@serralinda73]

"A legendary spell from the age of mythology" is a running joke from Frieren. She says that about any everyday useful but basic spell she picks up but those aren't actually legendary nor are most of them from the days of mythology. Humans didn't even do magic for the most part before Flamme, though maybe the elves didn't like doing laundry or getting pans grease-free either.

[@dat2nub]

to be fair from her perspective she is a magic collector that can create black holes and shatter reality but she still gotta scrub her underwear by hand LOL

[@druidicdwarf]

Autosave is the best and I was so amazed they chose to open the discussion by talking about my favorite character in the series. Thank you so much for sharing your journey with us

[@jmhaces]

They guy who went by himself into the dungeon was Methode and the little girl's other teammate during the Stille test. That's probably why they were all together during the credits even though he chose to solo the King's Tomb and the other two of them chose to join Denken.

[@chrismanich3063]

15:26 Anna with the "You, stop it. Dont make me cry" motion

[@karmanmetempsychosis]

It was a really great piece of work. Your reactions were also very good. I knew that the original manga was great, but I never expected it to become so popular worldwide. It is so popular in Japan that an orchestra concert of the OST will be held in Yokohama in August, but tickets for the concert were highly competitive, and I was lucky enough to get one.

[@srlobe]

Thank you to you both for this delightful journey Anna & Ben! I've been re-watching this exceptional series with you for these past months… I cannot but to congratulate you for all the passion, effort, theories and comments surrounding your reactions on the Frieren episodes. It's been so refreshing and enjoyable each step of the way! Kudos! This is the kind of reaction videos that fans really appreciate. I really hope we can continue this path on a season 2, but in the meantime I'll try to keep watching your channel and have a look at your Patreon. I loved the 86 anime seasons back when they first aired -I wish they'll produce more soon- so I probably follow that series with you to re-watch it this summer. You really are a fantastic pair and I couldn't be more glad to have discovered your channel thanks to Frieren. Have a terrific summer you both!

[@loslobo_]

Himmel the Hero would've appreciated your channel reaction and discussion on Frieren so far.

[@vkarvanzer4243]

Now i think about it, and that age and them as adventurers/travelers, to have a quick and simple way to keep your clothes always clean is really, really amazing.

[@neretilderem7029]

Übel and Land standing in front of the altar getting married: -So, can you empathize now? -Not yet Übel and Land playing with their 3 children: -Any progress? -No, still doesn't work Übel and Land as an elderly couple cuddling together in front of the fireplace: -How about now? -Nope, nothing

[@jmhaces]

If this doesn't become canon, it'll be one of the greatest missed opportunities in the history of storytelling.

[@BlackhaloZ]

Ubel being able to make clones is terrifying.

[@neretilderem7029]

@@BlackhaloZ That....wasn't the point of this comment... but okay....

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

Ubel clones... Oh my...

[@khol1611]

​@@neretilderem7029 maybe he want to say.... Ubel's clone can drying Land so badly, that's why so terrifying 😏

[@quegs]

Y’all are the best, I love how invested you are

[@artboymoy]

Aw... here we are. The end to a great first season! I think Serie's mentoring always was battle oriented. That's the way she taught Flamme and that's the way that Flamme taught Frieren. Frieren loved magic but after training for a long time under Flamme, when she's old, Frieren responds somewhat, because there's no joy in combat magic. She followed Flamme's directive to not be known and just keep a low profile, until Himmel and his party showed up. That chance let Frieren rediscover the joy of magic and searching for it. Land's interview was great phoning it in and Methode's was hilarious. She and Sein would make a great pair. But we see in the credits he's probably with that lady on the beach... The manga is still going on and they proabably have enough for another season.

[@AlexRonai]

I read a comment saying that Serie barring Frieren for a thousand years is a way of saying "come see me in a thousand years" and I like it lol

[@MortalMercury]

I think Delicious in Dungeon is a recent show you would enjoy

[@maizeman90]

Land is my hero. King of the WFH mindset

[@gideoncheung8731]

My favourite mini-story within this series (anime) so far is actually Wirbel’s dialogue with frieren here. Nothing flashy or even seemingly of note, but it was so sincere and his line that “everyone had their hands full on life” hit me so hard. When I was a child, I had big dreams of what I would achieve, but now that I’ve entered the workforce I finally understand

[@Qute12u]

when that music started at the end during flashback 🥲

[@DMBABT]

This is like my 8th watch through with reactors and without both dub and sub al great

[@Airwave2k2]

rookie number

[@Tessaalera]

Holy shit why is Frieren so damn powerful!? It makes me cry even on rewatch. XD

[@david_hsu]

Everyone says MADHOUSE doesn't do season 2, but I really hope the amount of additional care they put into this adaptation means how much they love it as well, and seeing the overwhelming positive reception they'll seriously consider it.

[@rosshaikenleonen1416]

Well, madhouse produced Overlord. So they can go the distance if they want to.

[@gilgameshlfx7006]

Even if Madhouse made second season it will not be the same without the director Keiichiro Saito. He's the one that made Frieren anime to look like this. If Keiichiro Saito isn't the director, expect drop in quality.

[@mbpoblet]

There _is_ a manga. It's far from finished, but there's a lot of content left, at least for one more season, maybe two, and it's just as good as what we saw in season one, if not more (the _fourth_ fan favourite character after Himmel, Frieren, and the mimics will probably appear in season two, for instance, as hopefully will a couple of the best arcs in the series so far). It's currently on an indeterminate hiatus... but it's done that before; last time it lasted about six months, and it was due to the author collaborating with the development of the anime, so... maybe we can be hopeful for a second season..? And if not, well, as I said, what's been published of the manga _is_ still great, even if we were left on a bit of a cliff hanger before the hiatus.

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

To add on, if the anime continues with its current pace of adapting the manga (ie, ~2 chapters per episode), there is enough material for another 32-35 episodes (since Ep28 ends on Ch60 and the manga is currently on Ch130).

[@mbpoblet]

Methode was like _"Fern said the other one was taken... maybe I can keep _*_this_*_ one..?"_

[@Circle9ru]

yea, she needs personal ancient elf great mage girl😁

[@BlackhaloZ]

Waiting for you to pick up on Lernen's granddaughter Ehre from the epilogue. "It's like I'm fighting my grandfather" vs. Fern.

[@neretilderem7029]

4:24 A really funny and tiny spoiler about Methode (hidden behind the read more button): . . . . . . . . . . . Serie later is forced to set a "maximum 10 minute hugging / day" rule, so she can work from Methode. And names Genau to enforce it.

[@Doodlesthegreat]

Can you imagine if she were to meet Kraft?

[@TamagoSenshi]

Land attending the whole exam on the magic equivalent of a Zoom call is amazing and the reason he's my favourite

[@rumaristo129]

Ana, please just cry when you feel like crying :)

[@nar_by_marek300]

Thank you very much. Great reactions. I hope that we will see another Frieren´s story really soon.

[@filipeoliveiraladislau4533]

as a modern person if i got in a fantasy but medieval world i would kill for a hygiene spell.

[@garrett5138]

That clip of Himmel walking into the light gets me every single time 🥲🥲. Everything about this show has been such an amazingly enjoyable and bittersweet journey of growth. The final clip with Himmel makes me wonder if he always knew that he would eventually see Frieren and the gang again later in life. Absolutely 12/10 apex anime ❤️😭

[@samcope451]

I wasn’t ready for this to end :(

[@samuelpinto4165]

Fue un gusto seguir esta serie con ustedes, ojala hicieran reacciones o discusiones al manga jajaja

[@rantingrodent416]

A spell that fills out paperwork perfectly and automatically.

[@Panster7]

Denken is the man

[@user-jo7sr4in8p]

perfect reaction!!!!

[@Stonewielder]

This anime has made an impact on me like so few shows ever have. I think it will always have a special place inside my heart.

[@Airwave2k2]

18:14 For Lernen it is not so much being rembered for himself killing Frieren, but he wanted to bring "fame" to Serie he feels in debt to for making him into the great mage he is, just without a chance to make a big impact and by that bring honor to her.

[@Circle9ru]

if Lernen wanted to be remebered so hard, why Aura was assaulting a city for so long anf he didn't show up? why didn't he stay to help Denken later to defeat Macht? he coud make his mark in the history, if he was DOING SOMETHING

[@Airwave2k2]

@@Circle9ru Good point why did he not actively peruse to become famous. I don't know, but he is clearly from a moral perspective not the guy to take the best decisions anyway since being a murder to become famous is out of the question for most individuals. I think we didn't see enough of him to make a judgment. You see Genau and other 1st class mages are operating in the north, so Lernen may also did do demon subjugation there. We don't know. Or maybe he is to bound assisting Serie with the leading the Continental Magic Association and for that has rather become a bureaucrat.

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

@@Circle9ru Please consider hiding your spoiler since there may be anime-onlys that end up reading your comment.

[@abeo222]

Beautiful episode, such a powerful ending. Thanks for making an amazing anime even better!

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

Important lore that a lot of people get wrong (complete but spoiler-free version) Short version; Visualization is important, but it's not the be-all-end-all and Frieren doesn't fall for mimics. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Long version; (I) The magic system and especially the thing about visualization A spoiler-free explanation of the magic system in the Frieren world is as follows: There are 4 components to a mage's magic-casting in the Frieren world: (1) Mana: How much mana/magical-energy they have. Note that other than a mage's initial mana-capacity, which is affected by the following; (a) The mana in each of the parents when the child was conceived (and maybe even the mother's mana until birth). This is because mana is to some extent inherited (eg, Ehre benefitting from being Lernen's grandaughter). (b) MAYBE your race (ie, demon vs elf vs dwarf vs human). However, it's unknown how this affects your initial mana-capacity (eg, Flamme in her 20s-30s? and Aura in her 500+ years of age, had similar amounts of mana). (c) Other currently unknown factors (eg, maybe the Goddess' Blessing since Heiter had a ton of mana even in his 20s?). a mage's mana-capacity is directly proportional to the amount of time that they have been training it (which correlates to their age). (2) Control: How much mana and how precisely they can control it. This also includes controlling spells after they've been fired off (eg, Frieren curving her Basic Offensive Magic around Fern's Basic Defensive Magic). Note that even raw mana can be used to achieve simple yet effective results if a mage has a high degree of control (eg, Frieren defending her neck against Draht's wire). This point will be further expanded upon in a later arc as well. Another very important case of mana control, is the act of limiting output. Any decent mage (with a good amount of mana control) can temporarily limit their mana (for the purpose of surprising a foe). This is called Concealment. It's basically a mage reducing their mana output from 100% to as close to 0% as they can, while they try to sneak attack an enemy. However, after the sneak attack, there is no value to doing this, since an enemy with magical abilities can probably detect that the attacker is reducing their mana output from the fluctuations that they see through their own mana detection (and they can even detect the attacker's unconcealed mana level, thus making the limiting completely useless at this point). Examples: (a) Fern sneak attacking Lugner in S01E08. (b) Lugner sneak attacking Fern in S01E09. Suppression, on the other hand, is the technique of limiting your mana output at all times (to say 10%). This is a useful technique because it can easily create situations where your enemies underestimate you. A mage that performs Suppression, can also do Concealment and how that works is as follows: They reduce from 10% to as close to 0% as they can, and then go back to 10% after they lift their Concealment. Now, the reason why Suppression isn't feasible for most HUMANs (and here I literally mean just humans and not dwarves and definitely not elves) is that to be able to fool demons and monsters, you either need to be very talented at mana control like Flamme and Fern, or have a very long time (ie, at least a few centuries) to practice Suppression to reduce the fluctuations as much as possible like Serie and Frieren. Thus, making this technique not worth it, since the return for your time-investment is so little. As Serie says, you're better off training other things. As for why Suppression is a dishonesty and mockery of magic, consider the following examples, which are somewhat equivalent to what mages practicing this technique are doing: (a) A martial master taking part in a beginner martial arts tournament. (b) A soldier disguising themself as a civilian and then attacking a target. Basically, mages performing Suppression are hiding their power to create a situation where their opponent is led to underestimating them. This would make them dishonest, but also shows them to be not truly proud of their achievements in magic to be confronting their foes straight with their full force and without trickery. (3) Spell: The magical formulas that they know and are able to use. Examples: Basic Offensive/Defensive Magic, Reelseiden. Note that the spell formula dictates what is possible or impossible. Examples: (a) Basic Offensive Magic cannot pierce dragon scales or Basic Defensive Magic, regardless of the attacker's visualization. Otherwise, Frieren would've taught Fern how to do it when she asked Fern to attack the Solar Dragon in S01E05 in the former case, and Basic Defensive Magic would actually be useless in the latter case. (b) Frieren's spell to clean a bronze statue not being usable for a stone statue. If it was purely a visualization based system, then there is absolutely no reason for why Frieren wouldn't be able to use the folk spell in S01E16 to clean Kraft's & Unknown-Priest's statues. (4) Visualization: Needed to activate/use a spell since a mage cannot make something happen if they can't clearly/exactly picture the outcome. This is actually very similar to how it is in real life as well. Note that a weak visualization might further limit a spell, but a strong visualization cannot strengthen a spell. Examples: (a) Regardless of Aura's visualization, her scales were already tilting towards Frieren, even though Aura was unaware that Frieren had more mana at that point. If it was a purely visualization based system, then Aura should've been able to dominate anyone including Frieren. (b) Ubel's visualization is ONLY taking advantage of Reelseiden's formula to cut anything in a 5? meter radius. Even she is unable to fully maximize the spell, since she cannot visualize cutting Basic Defensive Magic. However, she can visualize cutting more things than most people, so she's still a very proficient user of this spell. -------------------------------------------------- In summary, the visualization component of the magic is just like in real life; you will surely fail if you have a 'bad' mindset, but a 'good' mindset does NOT guarantee success (ie, a 'good' mindset is a necessary, but insufficient condition for success since external factors are still a thing). Visualization is important, but it's not the be-all-end-all. Spells determine what's possible or not, and a mage's visualization can make them achieve between 0% to 100% of a spell's potential. They cannot just bs visualize/imagine themself into winning and/or doing-the-impossible. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also, there is technically one more component, which may fall under Control, but since I'm not convinced that it definitely does (and also because it's not completely crucial for just casting magic alone as a singular mage), I've written it below as a separate point: (5) Detection: How accurately a mage can detect mana in a certain radius with themself at the center. This is extremely important for battle, since it relates to: (a) Finding hidden enemies (who are probably concealing their mana). (b) Becoming aware of surprise attacks not caught by the physical senses (eg, being shot from behind). (c) Not underestimating a strong foe who's pretending to be weaker than they are (ie, mages who suppress their mana like Serie, Flamme, Frieren, and Fern). ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above info is from: S01E02: First half of the episode with Frieren teaching Fern. S01E03: Second half of the episode on Killing Magic. S01E05: Second half of the episode with the Solar Dragon. S01E08: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E09: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E10: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E15: First half of the episode on Goddess' Magic. S01E16: Second half of the episode with the statue cleaning quest. S01E20: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E21: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E26: Pretty much all of it. :) S01E27: Second half of the episode with the CMA heads meeting. (CMA = Continental Magic Association & CMA heads = Serie + 1st class mages) S01E28: Credits showing Ehre introducing Lernen to Wirbel, which when combined with the info from S01E20 with Ehre & Wirbel, allows us to conclude that Lernen is Ehre's grandfather. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, there are a few additional minor notes for points 2 and 3 (ie, Control and Spell) that I have not included due to being spoilers for anime-onlys. (II) Frieren vs Mimics Putting aside jokes and memes, I have seen far too many people and even video essays on KZbin (some of which claiming to be serious analysis types) thinking/saying that Frieren falls for mimics. The truth however is; Frieren doesn't fall for mimics. She chooses to take the risk because she doesn't lose anything of value (and because the mimic-check spell is only 99% accurate). She loses a little time while in the mimic and then later when fixing her hair (but she doesn't care about that because she has practically infinite time), and suffers a little reputation damage (but she doesn't care about how others view her all that much). On the other hand, she may gain something. In summary, she loses nothing and may gain something so why not try them all?

[@galaxa13]

"No no no, we can't cry. It would be embarrassing when we watch season 2." That made me laugh so hard.

[@bobislav85]

The last scene of Himmel, turning his back with the cape is the same scene we see in his funeral. Like the final "bracket" of the story telling is closed. Full circle. Himmel epitomizes what Gandalf say in The Hobbit :“I have found that it is the small everyday deed of ordinary folks that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love.”

[@davidvfxmusica62]

I see that they were curious about the false granddaughter relationship between LAUFEN and DENKEN but no one mentioned or noticed if there was a true blood relationship of Granddaughter and Grandfather between EHRE and LERNE. Ehre feels a great attachment to WILBER (infatuation or gratitude) believing that they would not pass the first test. When she heard that Wilber turned around on the boat, she wanted to keep him by confessing that his grandfather is one of the first-class magicians. We also get a reference to this when Ehre fights Fern and comments that her style is old-fashioned but regional as if she were fighting a veteran magician like her grandfather. All this is confirmed in the final images of the last episode where we see how Enrhe introduces Wilber to her grandfather, the magician Lerne. Since I think they will get along well as they are both magicians who only know how to kill and fight.

[@Raidanzoup]

There's actually an isekai reincarnation light novel where the main character, a high elf who will live for a thousand years (either that or 10K, but I think it was just 1K) decides to pick up sculpting a few books into the series to honor the memories of the people he met who have since passed on. I like how this series treats the "minor convenience" magic as legendary spells from the mythic era in contrast to how all the other game-like high fantasy series treat "daily life magic" as something even Villager A can do, since it's not something as crazy as combat magic. Nah, being able to skip "Physical Labor: Laundry" with Real Magic That Affects You is great! You literally gain hours in a day to do something else.

[@teguhlg]

I think she already explain how its a mythology era magic, and your explanation is how it lost and become a legendary spell.

[@Circle9ru]

"minor convinience" for US, who have laundry machines. in thier world they either do it by hands or by some telekinesis magic, stearing the water with clothes.

[@gran-roan]

Have not read the Manga, but believe that Übel already learned the clone spell, and it's just sticking to Land because she find him fascinating. Serie's memory of Flamme running in front of her means that, deeply she knows Flamme was always ahead and managed to achieve the main theme of the story: 'true immortality' - Legacy. Which is essentially friends + leaving a lasting impact in the life of future generations. Without Flamme and Himmel, Frieren would like had become another disillusioned Serie. Still unsure the role of the "Goddess" and why Priest skills are so different to mages, though.

[@LadyShoko101]

Im so sad this show is over man

[@blubbobbelo]

Thats the second show after One Piece Im obsessed with. After watching the Anime i read all Manga chapters in a day and it went on hiatus.....at a interesting story point of course....;(

[@Wuffskers]

Serie is the ultimate petty tsundere

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

Yeah, she's mostly just tsun and a lot of pettiness.

[@ThomasSMuhn]

Methode, the "Golem" girl and the solo guy were a team during the first exam stage. I guess the solo guy, like Richter, learned a valuable lesson about the advantages of companionship over the course of the exams ...

[@user-ku2so3ke5w]

Thank you for watching Frieren. It was really interesting to watch how I dug deeper into each and every one of you. I recommend Dungeon Meshi （Delicious in dungeon）as a new animation to watch. Dungeon Meshi may seem like an animation about one-off gags and food, but as the story progresses the atmosphere changes and there are more things to consider, making it more interesting.

[@julianr8544]

Ughh, I still cried from the reaction though😭I could never be Himmel.

[@Kaylakaze]

The funny thing is, Prestidigitation from D&D, a spell I ALWAYS try to have unlimited casting of, will do pretty much everything you guys said (and more) up until the "speak with animals" part.

[@_2fcd_978]

That spell that Lernen uses on Frieren looks like a version of Zoltraak. It's got this odd blob shape instead of a beam. It broke through her defenses so easily too.

[@davidtitanium22]

i feel that fight for your life to not cry because himmel the hero wouldn't want us to cry saying goodbye

[@5HeadTaste]

Truly a 10/10

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

Now, that you've also finished Frieren on KZbin, I would like to nominate `Overlord` for your next reaction series.

[@user-fp3in2kf3b]

Lernen currently probably is the strongest human mage alive

[@callac]

aaand I cried again... damn!!

[@natsunimesubs596]

ben before episode start "i'm not really sad the episode end" ben when wirble and himmel appear " tears come out"

[@ThatOneIrishPerson]

I'd recommend Delicious in Dungeon if you need more of that worldbuilding and real feeling characters to fill the hole that Frieren left. Lord knows I needed it

[@athernandez666]

Frieren: the anime thst stole my heart

[@praf1069]

Hero Himmel would be proud of you guys

[@knightmiao]

This ending is so similar with bocchi the rock ending , coz is same director 🎉

[@BlackhaloZ]

Bocci II will be terrific IMHO. I hope they wait for him to finish that.

[@geekley]

Why do I think Land's CLONE will end up having a whole relationship with Ubel, including somehow having even kids without real him ever getting close to her at all? 😆

[@UltraHD.7]

Serie is just granting Frieren another mere 1000 years to finally become what she wants her to be 🙂 So, I'd be very happy if director Keiichiro Saito first takes care of season 2 of Bocchi the Rock and then, immediately, comes back to Frieren season 2. In my ideal world... 😊

[@mikelrayoss2245]

After this, I recommend either Delicious in dungeon or Konosuba

[@DaimonAnimations]

Why Himmel is so the perfect hero? Damn!

[@ky8252]

Finally

[@JasperAyeee]

so we've come to the season finale~ because of how good the anime was [top to bottom incredible] i, personally, would want the director and studio to take as much time as they need to deliver season 2. that being said, i feel like Fall 2025 would be the earliest? thanks for the reactions 💞

[@DarwinAwardWinner]

The hilarious thing i just realized is that with Frieren failing the 1st class mage exam and now being banned from all Magic Association facilities for 1000 years, she's never going to even get certified as a mage at all. (To be fair, she probably wasn't going to get certified anyway.)

[@Circle9ru]

she doesn't need it. if anything, she's a legend of thier world, even if most ppl don't recognize her. the only reason why they need that 1st class mage document is that Frieren don't want to use her name to pass.

[@pwarner]

They're keeping elves' lifespan pretty vague. (no manga spoilers please). It seems like Serie and especially Kraft are 1000s of years old. Next to them, Frieren seems like the elf equivalent of in her early 20s or so, even though we know she's probably ~1500 years old. Kraft is old enough for his legend to be all but forgotten about, he could easily be 3000-5000 years old

[@Circle9ru]

@@pwarner, there can't be manga spoilers, since there is no info about Serie or Kraft age in the manga yet.

[@DarwinAwardWinner]

@pwarner I wasn't implying that 1000 years would be the rest of Frieren's life. I just don't expect she'll be back in 1001 years with a sudden need to be a 1st class mage. As for the life expectancy of elves, it seems strongly implied that elves simply don't die of old age or experience age-related degradation of their health. Or if they do, it happens so slowly that statistically they're drastically more likely to die if other causes first.

[@DarwinAwardWinner]

@@Circle9ru I'm not so sure Frieren could get into the northern plateau just by dropping her name. If that was an option, it seems like Fern would have suggested it in lieu of taking a substantial detour just to get certified.

[@MortalMercury]

I bet Denken still chose the spell that could have healed his long lost wife

[@BlackhaloZ]

Spoiler: . . . . I thought he chooses the spell to counter the demon that took over his home town? Curse Reversal Magic.

[@suckontheserobotnuts]

​@@BlackhaloZ Manga spoiler lol.

[@cole7463]

​@@BlackhaloZThat is... A spoiler.

[@invi022]

​@@BlackhaloZ Smartest manga reader

[@Diablos-pi2qy]

@@BlackhaloZ Please hide this spoiler. There's absolutely no reason to spoil it without warning here.

[@isanaka2428]

32:30 i feel i do really like AutoSave.

[@M.i.s.e.r.y]

some small manga spoilers ahead;❗ 29:17 I love how Anna was 100% right with that headcanon about Übel and Land, considering that's exactly what happens in the manga. Literally their next appearance is Übel trying to get into Land's house. I wonder what they both choose as their reward spell, since im pretty sure they weren't revealed yet. Übel's an unpredictable psycho, I have no idea for what spell she could've chosen.

[@maxdon2001]

Great reaction! This was one of my favorite anime!

[@mjaomjao2]

Frieren is made by Madhouse and it used to be a big meme that Madhouse never makes a season 2. So it doesn't look promising but who knows.

[@doubleasworkshop1692]

Dungeon Meshi next, PLEASE