Alfa Romeo 159 SW 3.2 V6 REVIEW on AUTOBAHN [NO SPEED LIMIT] by AutoTopNL

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@johnypiston
@johnypiston 3 жыл бұрын
Still among THE most beautiful wagons EVER made ♥️
@jovan4382
@jovan4382 3 жыл бұрын
Audi
@andrzejnowak863
@andrzejnowak863 3 жыл бұрын
@@jovan4382 Nice joke Jovan
@Frackipan
@Frackipan 3 жыл бұрын
Saab 9-5!
@zheson5-speed953
@zheson5-speed953 3 жыл бұрын
Still a shitty car tho. Its like having a beautiful girlfriend but she has an extra chromosome.
@laki5380
@laki5380 3 жыл бұрын
@@jovan4382 Audi biturbo ko ima love, para
@Qbyk95
@Qbyk95 3 жыл бұрын
"Man, it's really-really slooow" - 4th gear 210 kph
@V12DB7C4D
@V12DB7C4D 3 жыл бұрын
seems not many noticed this...lol
@rishavganguly92
@rishavganguly92 3 жыл бұрын
For a car with 260 hp, 8 seconds is pretty slow when a Fiat Punto with 150 hp does 9 seconds. But it doesn't matter because it's an Alfa
@allan2k195
@allan2k195 2 жыл бұрын
@@rishavganguly92 Yeah, my abarth punto does a 7.5 sec with 180 hp. But the alfa is very heave
@piotr5591
@piotr5591 2 жыл бұрын
@@allan2k195 my 159 with v6, automatic sedan does 0-100kmph in 7.0s at all times
@allan2k195
@allan2k195 2 жыл бұрын
@@piotr5591 Love that car😍
@dpdpdpdpdpdrtyitp
@dpdpdpdpdpdrtyitp 3 жыл бұрын
13 years later and still looking great!!
@antoniop._1333
@antoniop._1333 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@MegaBaron91
@MegaBaron91 3 жыл бұрын
Slow acceleration, high consumption, but it has an V6 and it's red! xD
@travispuhl4091
@travispuhl4091 3 жыл бұрын
same thought! xd
@Matus.S
@Matus.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@grzegorzmlacki6590 I have 2007 3.2 Q4 with manual and yes, it is a lot quicker. I wrote handful of comments under each of the 3 videos of this same car on this channel in naive hope that it can decrease the amount of usual trash talk about this engine/platform.
@Jaredscott89
@Jaredscott89 3 жыл бұрын
@@Matus.S lol. So they apparently only ever get given broken ones? Nope, these cars are just straight up slow. Low power, high weight.
@Matus.S
@Matus.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaredscott89 They created 3 videos of the same broken car from one shoot. Not 3 different 159. What you don't understand about that comment?
@Matus.S
@Matus.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jaredscott89 Also I guarantee you it goes faster than 220kph they achieved on this *broken* car and accelerate quicker. If you don't believe me, it's your problem. I am not saying that 159 3.2JTS is blazing fast.. but it is surely quicker than the car shown in video.
@daca4382
@daca4382 3 жыл бұрын
Henry Ford: "Every time I see an Alfa Romeo pass by , I lift my hat "
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 3 жыл бұрын
Every Lada owner ever: "Every time I pass an Alfa Romeo, I floor it to win... (my life not to rear-end the tow trucque)"
@mikatamminen2786
@mikatamminen2786 2 жыл бұрын
@@miljororforsprakpartiet290 because he saw how they build them and saluted that they actually could get one done like they did...
@ArnaudShanghai
@ArnaudShanghai 3 жыл бұрын
We had one, it wasn't that slow. This one might have a problem, you should dyno it to check the numbers and go from there.
@jjnel1
@jjnel1 3 жыл бұрын
Mine does 240kph easily. You need to have the engine checked.
@V12DB7C4D
@V12DB7C4D 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjnel1 did you see what gear he was in?
18 күн бұрын
​@@V12DB7C4D Yes, 4th, when changed to 5th almost didn't go faster at full throttle .
@Norshuttle97
@Norshuttle97 3 жыл бұрын
Doesnt matter how slow or fast it is - its arguably the best looking estate ever made, looks gorgeous from all angles, driving experience is fantastic and you get the sense of connection to the car. Its not an overpowered Audi A6 with wide skirts and 700 horses (which is also pretty dope) or the usual boring BMWs. (your new M4 is amazing tho) Love to see more Alfas on this page :) Running a MY18 170hp Giulietta here in Misano Blue with carbon details :)
@marcinsquadracorse8021
@marcinsquadracorse8021 3 жыл бұрын
We love Alfa for their looks and handling. Connections between the driver and the car. Italians can evoke emotions.
@TheLordofcod
@TheLordofcod 3 жыл бұрын
probably the most beautiful estate ever made! even compared to this year's estates! Forza Alfa!
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 3 жыл бұрын
Even... lol even. Have cars ever been as ugly as now?
@Seatter_S
@Seatter_S 2 жыл бұрын
If only they made the guilia a sportwagon. Imagine the QV
@TheLordofcod
@TheLordofcod 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seatter_S it would be amazing...
@Seatter_S
@Seatter_S 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLordofcod certainly would
@Matus.S
@Matus.S 3 жыл бұрын
*Max @AutoTopNL* , you actually said it in your review like 3 or more times- this particular engine does not have full 260Hp. Therefore it is ridiculously slow. Carbon buildup in engine? This review is unfortunately not doing a justice to a real performance of a healthy 3.2JTS. Other than this I agree with you :) It is very thirsty as it has to cope with Q4 and heavy weight of a platform initially planned for much larger vehicle (luxury sedan with v8). My pre-facelift 3.2JTS Q4 SW weights 1805kg per documents. After facelift (2008) they lighten up mainly suspension components and saved around 50kg. But 159 had the biggest torsional rigidity of all its competitors that time (3 series, A4, C class..). And I would 100% rather crash in 159 than in 156/147 (watch crash tests) :D Ti version of 159 has (apart from visual changes you mentioned in video) also lowered sport suspension by 20mm. That's only difference drive-wise. JTS was first introduced in facelifted 156 2.0JTS. Jet Thrust = direct injection. Stoichiometric in the abbrevitation means it keeps ideal air to fuel ratio, so all fuel is burned. In this engine it means that it burned lean mixture until 1500rpm to save some fuel and then used stoichiometric AF ratio. BTW: *only engine block* was sourced from Holden. Alfa used their own heads: JTS, variable timing, higher compression ratio. Last remark as many times this engine/ car is compared to 156 (even to 147). Yes, Busso was lovely to look at and sounded amazing and reved quicker, but also it was not possible for this engine to pass new Euro4 emission standards. Remove some of the CATs from this car (there are 4 of them) and put it in 156 and it would be quicker than with Busso. Also more economical since this is direct injection. You can't really compare 147GTA FWD light car with horrible crash test results with 3.2JTS Brera (which was more likely Q4 too) built on much heavier platform. That's not fair comparison. As an owner of 159 SW 3.2JTS Q4 I can tell you that they drive faster and accelerate harder. You can reach 240+kph and quicker too. So if you want a relevant result in your table, please find another car and do the measurements again. If you read up to this point, well done sir. Thank you for your video reviews :)
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
I wish this was the pinned comment for everyone to read...!
@steffanjones422
@steffanjones422 3 жыл бұрын
Ie got one too totally agree this is sluggish. At least he portrays the fun of the car I’ve had many bussos love this just as much
@michelangeloboldri9893
@michelangeloboldri9893 2 жыл бұрын
There is no official 156 crash test.
@Seatter_S
@Seatter_S 2 жыл бұрын
Bro wrote an essay on the jts. Busso engines are 69 times better 😏
@Darkside42340
@Darkside42340 3 жыл бұрын
AUTOBHAN: no speed limit Alfa 159 v6: huge speed limite because of anemic engine..
@Leonidae
@Leonidae 3 жыл бұрын
It's Alfa Romeo. It's not meant to be fast. It's meant to look good while waiting for tow truck.
@maxz2552
@maxz2552 3 жыл бұрын
Do not forget that is a 2005 aspired engine :)
@Darkside42340
@Darkside42340 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxz2552 of course. . The old busso engine was fantastic, the last holden a piece of crap
@greymark420
@greymark420 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leonidae 😂😂
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@Darkside42340 Hahaha you're joking. Better than the Busso in every aspect, apart from character. This specific model has carbon build-up issues - which affects all direct injection engines. Gotta know what you're talking about before commenting.
@vladriabokon6642
@vladriabokon6642 3 жыл бұрын
Me: doing homework AutotopNL: Uploads video 7 mins ago Me: I shall rather watch this masterpiece instead
@RohanSanjith
@RohanSanjith 3 жыл бұрын
Go study
@RohanSanjith
@RohanSanjith 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna own one
@mhnasv
@mhnasv 3 жыл бұрын
If you check other 159 3.2 accelerations they are actually faster, something is off with this particular car
@marcodalfonso2449
@marcodalfonso2449 3 жыл бұрын
of course something is wrong with it, its an alfa!
@mhnasv
@mhnasv 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcodalfonso2449 I dont think so
@adri593
@adri593 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcodalfonso2449 haha very funny kid
@walterwhite415
@walterwhite415 Жыл бұрын
Still one of the best looking cars out there! Alfa Romeo really knows how to make beautiful cars!
@jaromor8808
@jaromor8808 3 жыл бұрын
IMO this is the most beautiful Alfa Romeo ever. When it comes to the exterior there is not a single weak spot, no bad angle.
@Nitroat-xo4tj
@Nitroat-xo4tj 3 жыл бұрын
And if it comes to interior, there is no good angle, not one good spot. Cheap plastics. 90s design. If it comes to fuel economy or reability there is no better one, if you have the tow company.
@jaromor8808
@jaromor8808 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nitroat-xo4tj not gonna contest that... that interior is acceptable in full dark/black, otherwise the center console is fkin horrible
@danielh9981
@danielh9981 2 жыл бұрын
what ab the brera?
@parlay-music
@parlay-music Жыл бұрын
I mean the rear of the car could be a little less boxy
@MarcusW87
@MarcusW87 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds better than expected, but what you want is a 159 with the 1750TBi engine. I have a late, low mileage 159 TBi SW tuned by Squadra tuning, and it is properly quick from about 1800rpm.
@thedriver08
@thedriver08 3 жыл бұрын
It may be slow, but it's 6 cylinder and it sounds fairly good. I have driven the Brera with this engine and actually quite enjoyed it.
@thedriver08
@thedriver08 3 жыл бұрын
@Hermann Froh Absolutely, that's also something you have to take into consideration. All in all it's very good and solid choice.
@cypv12
@cypv12 3 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who had one and I can tell you that engine is not running well. The 159 v6 was never a fast car but it was never this slow.
@mariahessellund3130
@mariahessellund3130 3 жыл бұрын
More alfa stuff please
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 3 жыл бұрын
And Lancia !!
@Estrema939
@Estrema939 3 жыл бұрын
@@jareknowak8712 Wanna have a Lancia Musa or Ypsilon review?😐
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 3 жыл бұрын
@@Estrema939 At least Delta 1.8T 200hp, or 1.9TD 190hp.
@rachelmiglionico8121
@rachelmiglionico8121 3 жыл бұрын
@@Estrema939 yeah! Destroying terrible new Lancia series!
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 3 жыл бұрын
@@rachelmiglionico8121 Thema (from 2011) had 3,6L V6 286hp, and diesel with 240hp.
@plxton
@plxton 3 жыл бұрын
Italian invisible horses, beautiful sound, beyond beautiful looks. That's an Alfa! Having this in a Brera, the fuel economy compared to the speed and power is laughable.... but the looks, the sound, the feeling it gives... priceless!
@joseluistorres9488
@joseluistorres9488 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with the fact that is beautiful! Incredible stylish design!
@andresguerin7162
@andresguerin7162 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the most beautiful wagon made!! I'll take a Q4 manual in green with tobacco interior! 😍😍
@xandeo
@xandeo 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest “problem” with the 159 is that the best engine in its series is either the 1.750 petrol or the 2.4 diesel. The V6 was never considered to be a good petrol as it was made by Holden (sacrilege for any alfisti!), and the 2.2 petrol is too slow, as is the 1.9 diesel. I have driven the 2.2 and thought it was horrible, and I own a 2.4 since many years that I’ve pushed on the autobahn without problems up to 230. The top speed (on gps) that I’ve reached in the 2.4 was 245 km/h, meaning that something must be wrong with this V6 as it really seems slower than the 2.4 diesel that has 60 bhp less. Still a very pretty car, and I get plenty of comments on mine despite its 200K km on the clock and it’s tender age of 14 years.
@queenhelebron5717
@queenhelebron5717 2 жыл бұрын
No way that engine has 260hp... I have 2.4 SW and can confirm what you are saying.Also 2.4 response is better,its torqueier hehe.
@South4153
@South4153 2 жыл бұрын
@@queenhelebron5717 it‘s a crap engine. especially compared to the real alfa v6
@ВелизарАврамов-ъ8ц
@ВелизарАврамов-ъ8ц 3 жыл бұрын
"Bad fuel economy". Man you drive on 4th gear, 200 km/h in red rev counter. Very smart. Put 5th , 6th gear.
@mairis4579
@mairis4579 3 жыл бұрын
i had 159....sedan and diesel, but still very good car, i love it. turned heads in city bc not common in my country. always looked back after parking it and walking away :D
@EduardoSullivan359
@EduardoSullivan359 3 жыл бұрын
That particular Alfa is broken. Not the normal acceleration at all. You should know better as a car journalist. Yes the engine is not a busso v6 but GM but still. The acceleration is not normal.
@donaldfenner6891
@donaldfenner6891 3 жыл бұрын
156 2.0 Twin Spark takes 8.6 s to 100 and the top speed is just as seen in this vid. Has 155hp and the weight is 1375. Something is wrong with this one.
@Wh04m1
@Wh04m1 3 жыл бұрын
@@donaldfenner6891 for sure. My Brera 2.2 runs nearly 230 (speedometer, not gps) with 75hp less
@damirdropic330
@damirdropic330 3 жыл бұрын
I agree ☝🏻. I own 159ti V6 and i go to 200 faster than this and it’s full stock mine is just saloon.
@donaldfenner6891
@donaldfenner6891 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wh04m1 Nooooice. Would love to get me some older alfa again. Only had twin sparks\boxers in the past. Is jts at least somewhat similar in character to TS?
@kudinyo6671
@kudinyo6671 3 жыл бұрын
If you never measure the time.properly for yourself, that what you get. Buy or borrow a draggy and try your car
@camiel221
@camiel221 3 жыл бұрын
For the 159 the best option would be the 1.7tbi engine and then tune it with a stage 1 tune. But like you said, v6 engines are becoming more and more special even if they aint that fast
@Mr995pippo
@Mr995pippo 2 жыл бұрын
The 2.4 JTD 5 cylinder is good too. Avaible with awd and with a ECU it arrive quite Easy at 250-260 cv
@christianolssontravels
@christianolssontravels 2 жыл бұрын
No. V6 aint fast. Just look at the Giulia qv at 510 hp. Peanuts.
@jekabsbukss_sim
@jekabsbukss_sim 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr995pippo oh yes i have one, its an automatic gearbox but igdaf, its so fun to drive. I'm thinking to manual swap it but ive heard that its very difficult even for poeple who understand alfas and everything, expesnive too, but my 166 is my love 😍
@prof.b.k.manglam1363
@prof.b.k.manglam1363 3 жыл бұрын
Driving a slow car fast is another kind of happiness:)
@PlanetNr4
@PlanetNr4 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that engine is running at its best. I'm not saying it's fast, but should be faster that.
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Carbon build-up issues.
@adodoes8770
@adodoes8770 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i think it should be faster too. there's a video of a chipped 3.2 159 with 290hp. And while that is a +10% increase in power it did 0-100 in about 6s and 100-200 in about 15s. This one took almost 30s 100-200 which really is slow. Plus the chipped one hit 230 before the video stopped but would definetly break 240 when topped out. Probably something wrong with the car. Maybe carbon build up and in need of a retune?
@jakecole7447
@jakecole7447 3 жыл бұрын
definitely 8:06 its taking over 10 seconds for 20-100 kph. this car should do 0-100 in ´7 seconds flat.
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe some power problems?
@Matus.S
@Matus.S 3 жыл бұрын
@@nvl2691 Hey mate, another video of this car, another avalanche of crap comments. If you want to amuse yourself, read the comment thread under " _MegaBaron91: Slow acceleration, high consumption, but it has an V6 and it's red! xD_ " comment where I had a "discussion" with some Jared Scott :-D
@wladimirnordemann5236
@wladimirnordemann5236 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely is not a slow car. It's not a race car, but is has more than enough power under its belt. It's so easy to criticize...
@PuebloKRecords
@PuebloKRecords 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. I see Alfa. I press play.
@swansmeister
@swansmeister 3 жыл бұрын
Also a dumbass man, Alfa's suck your wallet dry. They are beautifull I give em that.
@tomaszmleczek8889
@tomaszmleczek8889 3 жыл бұрын
@@swansmeisterany car could be expensive if you buy broken car or unreliable enginge. And yes i have AF159 and i wouldnt replace for another car with the same budget
@dwade3202
@dwade3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@swansmeister did you ever own an alfa or are you just another idiot repeating like a parrot ? We have a 1.9 jtd 147 for 14 years now, 300k km, no big issues and I still go 1100km on one tank. And after 14 years, you still enjoy the drive. But hey, they're terrible amirite
@swansmeister
@swansmeister 3 жыл бұрын
@@dwade3202 there are always exeptions on the rule bit Alfa are problem cars, it's not an opinion but a fact. I like my c63 s204 also but it jas it share of problems and I am not such a fanboy that I couldnt say anything negative about the car I own. Alfa Romeo has the nickname Alfa Romelo over here for a reason.
@dwade3202
@dwade3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@swansmeister thats my point, exactly. literally audi bmw merc from the late 2000s break as hell too, but you see nobody having that reputation but alfa. My dream car is audi rs5 with the v8 and when I go and see how many issues the car can have it's crazy, but the reputation is intact. Idk why but its like people want alfa to fail and to re-enforce the belief they're crap. Sure, some parts are questionable, but I hate when they act its an alfa only problem. Buy a bmw v8 from the late 2000s, you're gonna go broke.
@temakrezov618
@temakrezov618 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Alfa Romeo 159 SW Q4 with a diesel engine 2.4 jdtm. 5 cylinders, 210hp. When i was on the high-speed road from St. Petersburg to Moscow, reached a speed of 210 km/h, but i felt that Alfa could do it faster, and I couldn't :) Hello from Russia, sorry for my English. Good luck, AutoTopNL!
@QKvox
@QKvox 3 жыл бұрын
Aussie engine Italian design, BRILLIANT and with an exhaust and some tuning that engine sounds amazing (its in the Holden commodore SV6)
@SOUNDSTORMGD
@SOUNDSTORMGD 3 жыл бұрын
No way, I've driven a Brera 3.2 jts (so same engine) in stock mode for 4 months and I was flying. This car has problems. The only V6 engine I love Is Busso ❤
@luba2425ify
@luba2425ify 3 жыл бұрын
But the Brera never had a Busso 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
@SOUNDSTORMGD
@SOUNDSTORMGD 3 жыл бұрын
@@luba2425ify Indeed Sir, Busso wasn't eco- friendly so they used GM engines
@robertjusic9097
@robertjusic9097 3 жыл бұрын
@@luba2425ify he never said he drove a brera with a buso?
@usarkarzts4207
@usarkarzts4207 3 жыл бұрын
@@SOUNDSTORMGD then you haven't seen the V6 in the Giulia Quadrifoglio.
@SOUNDSTORMGD
@SOUNDSTORMGD 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertjusic9097 actually I have One... 😉
@pedromoronta5025
@pedromoronta5025 3 жыл бұрын
I think the 1.8 TBI is most faster than this! Beautiful desing from Mr. Giorgetto Giugiaro
@marcinsquadracorse8021
@marcinsquadracorse8021 3 жыл бұрын
1.750 TBI not 1.8
@bezi150
@bezi150 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcinsquadracorse8021 thats the 1.8l mate
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe old Alfa 75 is faster too:)
@pedromoronta5025
@pedromoronta5025 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcinsquadracorse8021 Lol I am Engineer My Math sorry but is true I got damn to reduce 1.75 to 1.8
@holgi4185
@holgi4185 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcinsquadracorse8021 The engine called 1.8 TBI and not 1.750 !!!
@robinmarples5198
@robinmarples5198 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best looking wagon ever.
@steffanjones422
@steffanjones422 3 жыл бұрын
K bought one of these after many GTAs for £2500 can’t believe how good it is. GTAS are amazing but this is an amazing cruiser
@philippebeinaerts
@philippebeinaerts 3 жыл бұрын
Early direct injection petrol engines are known for clogging up with carbon, and losing power as a consequense... maybe this one suffers from that? The 159 was hugely compromised but it’s a beauty and the interior still looks very good today
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
For sure. Such low mileage on a 13 year old car - it's pretty much a certainty.
@christianolssontravels
@christianolssontravels 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too. Decoke it and put in a oil catch can.
@FrankB1110
@FrankB1110 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the actually v4 Alfa we've seen often lately
@milan5159
@milan5159 3 жыл бұрын
V4?
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 3 жыл бұрын
@@milan5159 it's a joke on its performance
@87solarsky
@87solarsky 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Soviet nuclear ice-breaker.
@DavorinTk
@DavorinTk 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@215alessio
@215alessio 3 жыл бұрын
Go test the 1750 tbi. not that marchionnen Holden v6
@ayax2134
@ayax2134 3 жыл бұрын
wtf
@alfisti93
@alfisti93 3 жыл бұрын
@@215alessio Lets be real, that questionable deal with nasty GM V6 (and some inline 4) engines was already set in stone, when Marchionne came to FIAT in 2004. However "Marchionnes V6" for Alfa Romeo is the F154 - in Giulia & Stelvio QV.
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@alfisti93 It really isn't nasty. It's just strangled by strict emission standards, and in the case of the car in the video, strangled by carbon build-up. Now, the JTS is definitely not as enjoyable as the Busso, but it's much better than people make it out to be.
@pettinhouse
@pettinhouse Ай бұрын
I'm 283476238463287546 % sure It's absolutely IMPOSSIBLE for it to be this slow. The 3.2 V6 may not be as fast as other V6 engines of its era, but I'm confident in saying that this car should be at least twice as fast as it is now. So, PLEASE, check the cars you test before putting them on the channel to avoid further damaging Alfa's already compromised reputation with inaccurate tests.
@studiocalder818
@studiocalder818 6 ай бұрын
Last Sunday I accompanied my fourteen year old son (159 employee 😁) to the "Quantum of Solace" rally on Lake Garda: 1 Aston Martin on the run and a pack of 70 Alfa 159s in tow, along the tunnels between Salò and Riva, bringing the scene of the life of the film oo7. 😂 funny. (Aston from Great Britain, 159 from Italy, Austria, Slovakia, Denmark, Poland, NL, Switzerland, Slovenia, Romania, mostly black)
@kgdschneider
@kgdschneider 3 жыл бұрын
Suppose it's one of the most beautiful vagon ever.
@stanradu-andrei4020
@stanradu-andrei4020 3 жыл бұрын
You should try a 159 ti TBI around some corners. It solves the weight problem and I consider it the perfect engine for this car. But unfortunately, it's not a v6. :(
@qba4455
@qba4455 3 жыл бұрын
Work of art
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland
@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you taking on these old horses! Well done!
@andrecastro2855
@andrecastro2855 3 жыл бұрын
It's strangely slow, too slow. I've driven one and it had no hazzard reaching 240 km/h!🤔
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
Carbon build-up due to low mileage. Affects all direct injection engines.
@JKV.
@JKV. 3 жыл бұрын
same as 2.7 V6 Audi quattro xd
@Ashraf.A
@Ashraf.A 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't put on the 6th gear if you notice. He was on the 5th as he was trying to reach full speed
@tnajner
@tnajner 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ashraf.A What has this in common with the fact it's slow across the range?
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 3 жыл бұрын
@@JKV. No way. The 2.7 is twin-turbo so you need the glorious 147 or 156 GTA for that.
@steffanjones422
@steffanjones422 3 жыл бұрын
AutotopNL nailed it
@MyGamesHUN
@MyGamesHUN 3 жыл бұрын
I own a 2.2 JTS as my daily its incredibly slow but its so comfortable and pretty perfect daily but you do need a second car to have some fun in
@dani5rovic
@dani5rovic 3 жыл бұрын
yeah i have it too, and it's rather boring engine indeed. That's why i upgraded to 3.2v6 166, now that is not boring at all :D But i still can't get myself to sell the 159, it's beautiful and comfy
@steffanjones422
@steffanjones422 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got this car in a sedan/saloon. I’ve had GTAs and other bussos. This is a much better cruiser and more reliable. Doesn’t sound as good but still sounds great.
@eliaseckardt3656
@eliaseckardt3656 3 жыл бұрын
Soundcheck: 7:23 Drive: 7:44 Autobahn: 10:40
@janroubicek7673
@janroubicek7673 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this Alfa is very nice ... I have Alfa Gt (2005), very nice too. 3.2 busso is master piece!
@Watcher1867
@Watcher1867 3 жыл бұрын
It should have come from factory the way one German car dealer modified it. They put a supercharger in and by that created about another 100hp giving it a total of about 360hp which fits it very well. But the car isn't as heavy as many people tell. Sure thing 1760kg is a lot, but if compared to other mid-class cars of its era it isn't that heavy. An Audi A4 oder Mercedes C-Class also weigh about 1600-1800kg depending on the trim you chose.
@Archman155
@Archman155 Жыл бұрын
they had a GTA version planned with a V8 - it was on the nurburgring a few times but it got cancelled after the economic crash. such a shame because that wouldve been awesome
@transdimensional_spacegoat8333
@transdimensional_spacegoat8333 3 жыл бұрын
Yooo, this thing has a V6!
@thegaelicgladiator665
@thegaelicgladiator665 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2011 with a turbo on it and that was fast as flip boi but some of the older models aren't as fast but they are just as cool in my opinion
@goranvego3
@goranvego3 3 жыл бұрын
Please take it to dyno test and inform us about results. Thanks!!
@Johan-fw8re
@Johan-fw8re 3 жыл бұрын
The transmission in that drivetrain eats allot of horsepower, it would be a treat to se how bad it is 😁
@goranvego3
@goranvego3 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Johan-fw8re I believe that is also a problem, but I am afraid that the bigger problem is that the engine, at it best, does not achieve nearly the same power as it says on paper. This was even a problem with the old JTS engines in the Alfa Romeo 156 and GT. I may be wrong, but I think that’s the main problem, regardless of the weight of the car.
@Johan-fw8re
@Johan-fw8re 3 жыл бұрын
@@goranvego3 oh, i se 🙂
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@goranvego3 The issue isn't Alfa Romeo overestimating their power outputs - the JTS did make 260 hp when new. But carbon build-up has completely strangled this specific engine... thank you direct injection.
@anthonybelton-ford3124
@anthonybelton-ford3124 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting as we need to know
@andrzejnowak863
@andrzejnowak863 3 жыл бұрын
Damn it, I`ve had 215km/h on the clock of my 120HP diesel Croma. However this Alfa is a beauty and... it has a V6.
@jerryreid813
@jerryreid813 3 жыл бұрын
It is a beautiful car. Would suite my daily needs.
@merlincom1
@merlincom1 16 күн бұрын
omg, why the driver doesnt change the gears? Its not an automatic. The 3,2 V6 is very smooth, has 290 nm torque from 1200-5000 u/min ! BUT to be fast you have to go to 6500 Giri, Man !
@xheniszela375
@xheniszela375 Жыл бұрын
Alfa Romeo has a spirit , a car that makes you to feel an amazing experience , isn't about top speed or fast acceleration , and those engines aren't a true Alfa ADN , And doesn't expect something impressive form those engines . The Gulia Qv V6 2.9 is a true Alfa ADN
@petrhavlicek393
@petrhavlicek393 2 жыл бұрын
I love Alfa Romeo car´s !!!
@janstaes2172
@janstaes2172 7 ай бұрын
nice video, 159 has a gm (LLT) engine from the holden commodore SV6.the engine is long stroke, the busso has a short stroke engine. it is not the best engine. alfa did some tuning on it to make it a bit more sporty. it is such a dissapointment it lets it down a lot .
@ABL973
@ABL973 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my 159
@liviupetrasc5093
@liviupetrasc5093 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful! I am waiting the review for Afla Romeo Giulia Veloce. Thank you!
@jannisthali2421
@jannisthali2421 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the Diesel or Petrol
@jannisthali2421
@jannisthali2421 3 жыл бұрын
The 2.0 Petrol with 280hp or the 2.2 with 210hp
@liviupetrasc5093
@liviupetrasc5093 3 жыл бұрын
@@jannisthali2421 petrol 2.0/280 HP
@RanulfoKnox
@RanulfoKnox 3 жыл бұрын
I have a refreshed giulia veloce 280hp. Awesome car, 3 series killer. Go for it, you wont regret it any bit
@jannisthali2421
@jannisthali2421 3 жыл бұрын
@@RanulfoKnox My Brother wants to buy this Car
@kevindiener6391
@kevindiener6391 3 жыл бұрын
That precise alfa you're having on your channel may have some engine issues, because if you look on other 3.2 159 accelerations on you-tube they're much faster that that.
@LucaLivioSaglia04
@LucaLivioSaglia04 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately this 3.2 is the JTS engine that we call "mezzosangue" is very bad... this car and the Brera with the Busso V6 could be the best ever made after the GT
@Scyrixus
@Scyrixus 2 жыл бұрын
I own the V6 sedan and, yes, it's a heavy ass car. It does 0-100km/h in 5,6sec but it doesn't feel like it. And fuel economy truly is absolutely awful. Despite all the "bad" stuff I still love it to bits. I call myself an alfista and it's my first ever car. I plan on doing stage 1 and fit a catback or something for the exhaust. There's potential!
@Archman155
@Archman155 Жыл бұрын
first car? where do u live? in england theyd charge you about 30 grand to insure that lol
@Scyrixus
@Scyrixus Жыл бұрын
@@Archman155 Sweden. Cost me around £5600 with 134000km on the clock. Insurance is around £105 a month
@Archman155
@Archman155 Жыл бұрын
@@Scyrixusdamn £1230 insurance a year for that would be impossible here. people are lucky to get that on a 0.9L toyota aygo with a black box, most of the time even higher lmao
@luckystriker6606
@luckystriker6606 3 жыл бұрын
De intern gebruikte materialen zijn wel mooi. Veel hedendaagse auto's hebben goedkoop glanzend zwart plastic in het dashboard etc. Dat krast enorm. En ziet er m.i. erg cheap uit.
@selenator8768
@selenator8768 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting!!!!!
@ArtanisG.
@ArtanisG. 3 жыл бұрын
Let's look at the good sides: it is pretty heavy due to it being a very safe car for both front and rear passengers, 5-star rating at EURO NCAP, plenty of options on it (depending on the trim level you have), the 3.2, as far as I know, it is pretty reliable (never driven one tho) if you maintain it according to the service book, plenty of space inside, the sportwagon model is usually 50-60 kg heavier than the sedan version. The basic models have around 1.500 kg, they were designed to be comfortable, not sporty. Even so, they still pack some power under the bonnet.
@Matus.S
@Matus.S 3 жыл бұрын
+ 3.2JTS in good condition goes actually faster :) BTW: Mine has written 1805kg in documents (SW Q4)
@BraxxJuventa
@BraxxJuventa 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice lines. Looks really good! 👍😁
@uport2
@uport2 3 жыл бұрын
Man, how can it be so slow?! It feels like something with 2x less power. Wonder if the engine has a problem, as mileage can’t be to blame.
@deramon1000
@deramon1000 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the (low) mileage IS the problem. It was probably used for lots of short trips and caused a lot of carbon build up which is choking the engine
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@deramon1000 Shorts trips and more importantly, huge time intervals between drives!
@uport2
@uport2 3 жыл бұрын
@@deramon1000 good point
@Realjulius184
@Realjulius184 3 жыл бұрын
Ok ok you can drop this off at my driveway!
@gooo1762
@gooo1762 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Love the car!
@beschuitfluiter
@beschuitfluiter 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Brera styling on this one
@giovannigio6217
@giovannigio6217 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't able to count the number of times you said "it's a V6" ahaaha
@joe125ful
@joe125ful 3 жыл бұрын
Fuel economy is horrible but its V6:):)
@raffaeledellaglio3226
@raffaeledellaglio3226 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 159 Alfa Romeo,very nice car with good immagine. Unfortunatly, the car was havy likes a tank. I think Busso V6 was a motor art,the V6 you test is poor of Power. Max, congratulation for your Channel,i like this. You have ti test the 159, 1.750, 200 hp..it's more focused for this car. Thanks.
@jonathan_FS
@jonathan_FS 3 жыл бұрын
I still regret mine sometimes... but then I remember why I sold it, the insane fuel consumption, worst is in the city at slow speed, I had an average of 22l/100km, very difficult to go under 11l/100km cruising on highway at legal speed. Sold because of that, I wasn't able to afford the thirst of this inefficient nightmare (refuel twice a week at some point)
@Seatter_S
@Seatter_S 8 ай бұрын
How would you fancy driving my 156 2.4 Ti Sportwagon, running 350hp. I am planning a European trip next year, I have 4 alfas which I will be taking
@thatsentertainment5602
@thatsentertainment5602 11 ай бұрын
Are the timing chains reliable on these as I heard they can stretch over time and need to be replaced
@Luca-vl6ep
@Luca-vl6ep 3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys I want to buy my first car and idk what model. So I love the sound of the Busso V6 (GTA Models). It could be a Brera or 159 too. I want to stay below 20k€. Are the models good in this price range?
@TheLordofcod
@TheLordofcod 3 жыл бұрын
I would really advise you to go for an alfa 159 1.9 jts with 160hp, or 2.2 with 180-190 hp. You can also get the 1.8 ti model but don't go over 10-11k€. I would go for the 1.9jts (160hp) with low mileage, very good consumption too! No need to go higher engine capacity as their performance doesn't change accordingly. These cars, except for their breathtaking design, are amazing for corners, if you wanna do mostly highway driving they are nice, but their sound insulation is not the best. For twisty roads these are like the Ferrari of the "poor"! I love my 156 and my father's 159! Forza Alfa!
@Luca-vl6ep
@Luca-vl6ep 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheLordofcod yeah really good cars and engines. My grandpa has a Alfa romeo spider (916) 2.0. What a great car. But im the sound type of guy i thought maybe a GTV 3.2 would be the right thing maybe but thanks for the advice I could look for some 4 cylinders too :)
@nvl2691
@nvl2691 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-vl6ep I'd recommend the GT 3.2 - pretty much a GTA without the name and price associated with it. Won't be cheap for long though. Could get a 166 3.2 TI too. I'm hesitating between that and a 159 3.2 Q4.
@TheLordofcod
@TheLordofcod 3 жыл бұрын
@@Luca-vl6ep are you a soundfreak? Haha! I would sacrifice the sound for the consumption and price, you can find amazing prices for 1.9 or 2.2 . You won't believe it. Oh! And check for the front tires for over wearing, it means that the previous owner didn't change front suspensions on time and he drove it aggressively (I don't judge him, I drive it crazy fast in the corners)
@_VF7
@_VF7 3 жыл бұрын
Dovrai tenerla come un gioiello però, c'è gente che dice che se le usi tutti i giorni le spacchi ma non è vero, devi trattarla da dio, nel mio paese c'è uno che usa una GTA per andare a lavoro da anni
@paoloacquaviva9605
@paoloacquaviva9605 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 159 2.4 jtdm of course is more slow of this alfa on video but the top speed of my alfa is 245km/h and I don't touch the engine or work on this is only in good condition........for me the Alfa on video have problem........whenever W Alfa Romeo😉🍀😍❤
@erickmendeznegron
@erickmendeznegron 3 жыл бұрын
I actually want to take mine (same spec) to the dyno. It seems slow even for a heavy car. I actually think its more due to the awd system than the weight itself. I estimate it would come back with about 200 to the wheel max.
@DYNABLO
@DYNABLO Жыл бұрын
My uncle had one with a 1.9 diesel engine and it was going 215 km/h
@farhanislam8585
@farhanislam8585 3 жыл бұрын
Bro love ur videosss❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@magwol
@magwol 2 жыл бұрын
My dream car
@Rio-1984
@Rio-1984 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good looking wagon. Like it
@Michael_Michaels
@Michael_Michaels 3 жыл бұрын
This car might have some serious issues between the direct fuel injection system and the lambda probe (emissions measurement). Wrong infos between both systems, which result in poor performance.
@timdegroot4159
@timdegroot4159 3 жыл бұрын
It is not much slower, but the JTS has taller gearing and much more isolation material, which reduces the impression of speed. It is also slightly slower, but that is down to the couple extra kilos of the car. And purely the block is from GM, everything else is designed by Alfa. stoichiometric stands for the ideal ratio between fuel and oxigen. In my opinion this should have been part of your research.
@chatzim1tsoss
@chatzim1tsoss 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously there is a problem with the engine. This seems more like 160hp not 260hp.Probably due to carbon build-up.
@oleo007
@oleo007 3 жыл бұрын
It's a true alfa romeo, what could be wrong?Hummmm everything... Kkkk Slow,but have a V6..KKKKKK This car is absolutely beautiful.
@rearwheeldriven6217
@rearwheeldriven6217 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget it has a big heavy V6 with an already heavy chassis with four wheel drive.
@BubbenKopp
@BubbenKopp 2 жыл бұрын
Ive heard the Holden Engine tends to break fairly often.
@marioilbarbaro
@marioilbarbaro 3 жыл бұрын
bella sempre alfa
@Deniz-tq4jt
@Deniz-tq4jt 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, but it has a V6! 😂😂👍🏼
@duchaneeldesouza
@duchaneeldesouza 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say: This Alfa Romeo are a Italian-Miata. It's slow af, but you really have fun driving it around. But... hey, at least it have a V6... and also AWD.
@jirischindler7958
@jirischindler7958 3 жыл бұрын
It really has some type of engine problem, th acceleration is neraly the same as 1.9 JTDm and much slower than 2.4 JTDm.
@milodemar
@milodemar 3 жыл бұрын
But it does have a v6
@kilian20v
@kilian20v 3 жыл бұрын
Ik you already reviewed an 156 GTA but we need an Autobahn video of it!
@Sandro159V6
@Sandro159V6 2 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with this engine a have the same Alfa in black and it is not slow matte
@henrikl1394
@henrikl1394 Жыл бұрын
No, it is 57% rearwheel drive. So You mixed up that. We have one 2.4 Jtdm Q4.
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