2023 BMW M8 Competition vs M850i Gran Coupe | REVIEW on AUTOBAHN

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@sooofancier
@sooofancier Жыл бұрын
I wasn't expecting a head2head review from AutoTopNL! 🙌
@dominikk.5258
@dominikk.5258 Жыл бұрын
They do it sometimes
@Datoda
@Datoda Жыл бұрын
They did it with the S63 Coupe Vormopf and Mopf a couple years ago aswell
@mario20033
@mario20033 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw the title 😁
@takitrench
@takitrench Жыл бұрын
me too
@tomiszabo7829
@tomiszabo7829 Жыл бұрын
Follow them on Instagram😉
@bengriffin5146
@bengriffin5146 Жыл бұрын
“I love man” green 🤣 lmao. The 850’s rumble is nice but the burp on the m8’s upshift is so satisfying
@DavidS93
@DavidS93 Жыл бұрын
Subconscious betrays😂🤣
@eduarddobroiu
@eduarddobroiu 6 ай бұрын
Help! I now can't unhear it.💀💀💀 I always heard "Isle of Man".
@RahulNair1
@RahulNair1 Жыл бұрын
"Isle of Man Green, don't say that too quickly" - killed me 🤣🤣🤣
@performingspecs7841
@performingspecs7841 Жыл бұрын
The way that M8 pulled away was unreal! Love both of these cars, if I could get the the M850i with the appearance of the M8, I would have no problem with the lesser power. The M8 just looks so much more muscular than the m850i but it sounds great.
@AYO_KO
@AYO_KO Жыл бұрын
I’m team M850i and it’s not close. Plus just north of $3k in mods will fix any power gaps between the two.
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas Жыл бұрын
It's 90% of the M8 at 70% of the price.
@AYO_KO
@AYO_KO Жыл бұрын
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas shit, a used one can be had for $50k at 30k miles one owner no crashes
@laroyrichardson
@laroyrichardson Жыл бұрын
And 3k on a m8 in mods would create another gap. Why not just buy the M8?
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas Жыл бұрын
@@laroyrichardson The value in the monetary gap still isn't worth it. If it's raw power you're looking for, then just buy a Dodge like all the other road roaches.
@laroyrichardson
@laroyrichardson Жыл бұрын
@@PlayafromtheHimalayas isn’t worth what? I have a 2020 m8 competition. No one who can afford the M8C would buy an 850i. My M8C will hold it’s value better than an 850i.
@MrMarko369
@MrMarko369 Жыл бұрын
You should get hold of an Alpina B8 and tell us what’s best out of all 3 👍🏻
@outwestinc
@outwestinc Жыл бұрын
Easy choice. Alpina all day.
@Datoda
@Datoda Жыл бұрын
Out of M850, M8 and B8 the M850 is still the best car for the money but if you want M8 performance in a more comfortable car for M8 pricing the B8 is definitely the best
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
Easy choice. M8 Competition. Alpinas are boring, they didn't used to be. I really miss Alpinas like the B10 Biturbo. That was a hell of car, those new ones are all pussies.
@MA-mp4ov
@MA-mp4ov Жыл бұрын
@@Datoda The B8 is build on the M850.
@Datoda
@Datoda Жыл бұрын
@@MA-mp4ov Correct, but Alpina has tuned the car to deliver performance similiar to the M8. It has 457kw, so just slightly less than the M8 Competition with 460kw, but also has Alpinas signature luxuriuous suspension which combines the best of the M850is ability to be a comfortable daily with the performance of the M8 Competition
@nalasrai
@nalasrai Жыл бұрын
I have an M850 tuned 600HP+ and to me its the ideal car 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@knowtilus1389
@knowtilus1389 Жыл бұрын
Both of them are amazing cars! Thank you for your great reviews. You guys NEVER fail to entertain me/us the best way possible!
@starfindings
@starfindings 10 ай бұрын
Just bought the M850 x-drive 3 months ago. Mine is in white and after watching your video, I must agree about it's much throatier sound and the most comfortable car I ever had, Mine is only a 2 door. Only drawback is the back seat is really for kids, not adults. WHAT A CAR!
@twzst
@twzst 4 ай бұрын
Hey man! How's the car after 5 months? I have an X5 right now but I'm looking to save up enough money to sell my X5 and buy an M850i. Is it worth it?
@MrAcana1
@MrAcana1 23 күн бұрын
@@twzst Had mines for nearly 4 years, its the best. A dream to drive!
@iiroyalty2519
@iiroyalty2519 17 күн бұрын
@@MrAcana1 How many km/miles and how's the reliability been?
@mrmusic1880
@mrmusic1880 Жыл бұрын
Your head to heads are the best please keep them up!
@Daangoaway
@Daangoaway Жыл бұрын
Super nice this head to head perspective! So cool to see the m8 run away, even while the m850i is going full pull! That gives a very good perspective of the speed of a car and that s lovely to see 🙌
@etjulien
@etjulien Жыл бұрын
I like both. However, I like a little bit of an edge on my cars. So, I would pick the M8. Great review. Thanks, Max!
@markbrix9385
@markbrix9385 Жыл бұрын
M850i and M550i both sound so unbelievably good! It's such a dark and powerful roaring tone whereas the M8 and M5 sound much higher and not so "mighty".
@DavidS93
@DavidS93 Жыл бұрын
The smartest thing is to buy an m850i with low kms for around €70k
@SmileyGregB
@SmileyGregB 11 ай бұрын
The simple fact that the M850i can drive to the limiter on a rainy day with hands casually on the wheel demonstrates confidence in its ability. I drove today in the rain in Portland, Oregon, and was stuck behind people in Subarus driving 50mph in the fast lane afraid to speed up or switch lanes. Dang I only got a 4 series, so still got 4 car digits to reach 8 the car I want. 😁
@rormig8663
@rormig8663 Жыл бұрын
I had an M850 for 2 years. I had the external carbon pack including mirrors, diffuser and a lot of front bits. My gear shift was also crystal. All these and more are options. For the M850 I also had a full pano sunroof which fully opened which I preferred from the carbon roof. I also had black wheels and front grill and it was coloured frozen blue. The only thing I didn’t like was the suspension. Even in the M850 it was too jiggly. I came from a 650 and that suspension was creamy smooth compared to the 8. I wouldn’t buy another. Look amazing though.
@Nordheide
@Nordheide Жыл бұрын
What do you mean by the suspension being too jiggly?
@hamza6246
@hamza6246 Жыл бұрын
We don't care
@Dillon000
@Dillon000 Жыл бұрын
@@hamza6246 You cared enough to comment bozo
@Lvtinstallion
@Lvtinstallion Жыл бұрын
If they make the M performance cars like M340/550/850/M40i/M50i equally as nice as their M correspondence, no one would buy the M cars in my opinion.
@catchinxbodiezz9299
@catchinxbodiezz9299 Жыл бұрын
​@@hamza6246 u mad cause u cant afford one?
@ravitaheem4272
@ravitaheem4272 Жыл бұрын
Nice review Max, I purchased the M8 over the 850i, didn’t want to be left wandering
@yoyobase4638
@yoyobase4638 Жыл бұрын
Is it good
@pistonburner6448
@pistonburner6448 Жыл бұрын
Cultural difference.
@ravitaheem4272
@ravitaheem4272 Жыл бұрын
@@pistonburner6448 either go whole hog or take the 840d/i, pointless exercise, been tried before with 5/6 series variants all of which. Tanked
@JaydenvanBemmel
@JaydenvanBemmel Жыл бұрын
My dad actually bought the m850i over the m8. 3 months later he changed his mind and bought the m8.
@ravitaheem4272
@ravitaheem4272 Жыл бұрын
@@JaydenvanBemmel hence my comment about go the hole hog, one day you’ll see yourself in a shop window and regret it
@jevinpavan2427
@jevinpavan2427 Жыл бұрын
Autotopnl are one of the best car reviewer on yt
@kierankelleher
@kierankelleher Жыл бұрын
I was surprised to see that the Carbon Fiber interior trim in the M8 does not include the longer carbon fiber shift paddles that come with carbon fiber trim on M3/M4.
@andrewkashmarek
@andrewkashmarek Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing. i could be wrong but i’m pretty sure the only way to get the carbon paddles is with the m carbon bucket seat option.
@justinn568
@justinn568 Жыл бұрын
@@andrewkashmarek only carbon paddle shifters for G8x
@polaris6933
@polaris6933 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see such comparisons on the channel, would be great to get more of them! I think an interesting competitor to the 850 is the Lexus LC500 since they're both supposed to be fast and comfy cruisers.
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas Жыл бұрын
Looked at both. The 850 crushes the LC in every category but looks. The LC is very unique and timeless to be honest. But the 850 is faster, and not just a little bit, better interior, better technology, and better transmission. Subjectively the LC has better body lines.
@adzappin_2567
@adzappin_2567 Жыл бұрын
@@PlayafromtheHimalayasreliability 🤯
@Kamran1025
@Kamran1025 Жыл бұрын
my dad is looking for a m850i convertible from his current 640i convertible. The m850 looks and sounds like a beast
@ahyaan2552
@ahyaan2552 Жыл бұрын
Tune the 640i
@Kamran1025
@Kamran1025 Жыл бұрын
@@ahyaan2552 he’s against any performance mods unfortunately. he’s only done cosmetic
@spenym14
@spenym14 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the perfect balance of these both is the Alpina B8 a Gran Coupe. Also the Alpina wheel design is the icing on the cake for me
@lvdeluxe1
@lvdeluxe1 5 ай бұрын
I knew I wasn't crazy thinking the M850 sounded much better. I once confused it for a 63AMG V8 and everytime I double checked with the M8 the sound wasn't the same, so I thought maybe it was a modified M850. Thank you for verifying the brilliance of the M850 sound 👌
@flobeek7490
@flobeek7490 Жыл бұрын
I almost pissed my pants at his “ Isle of Man” Joke. 😂 you guys and the low key jokes.
@elliotsw8
@elliotsw8 Жыл бұрын
Any chance we could get a similar comparison between the X5 M50i and X5M competition?
@binny801
@binny801 Жыл бұрын
let´s wait for the LCI Models X5 M50i > X5 M60i
@razzalgoul
@razzalgoul Жыл бұрын
Two série 8 🥵 green bm is very gorgeous 👍
@RaphaelLacoste
@RaphaelLacoste Жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Thanks for this really good comparison. I have an 850i with a remus catback and run very close to M8 performances with RaceChip. Indeed one of the best daily 😅
@Headhunter69007
@Headhunter69007 Жыл бұрын
Video of the sound ? I’m curious to hear the difference
@RaphaelLacoste
@RaphaelLacoste Жыл бұрын
@@Headhunter69007 will post you a link soon - also remus make a nice upgrade on pops and bangs
@evan2devan
@evan2devan Жыл бұрын
Have a video bruh?@@RaphaelLacoste
@valentingarampon3679
@valentingarampon3679 Жыл бұрын
A tuned M850i with a proper configuration is the way to go 😎
@yatsumoto
@yatsumoto Жыл бұрын
wow, so much better exhaust sound with the m850i. i would have thought the 2023 model would be more muted because of the regulations, but it still sounds amazing.
@bestbesto1345
@bestbesto1345 Жыл бұрын
Both of them are amazing cars!
@raven40611
@raven40611 Жыл бұрын
Best automotive Channel on KZbin!
@thewolf61691
@thewolf61691 6 ай бұрын
I chose m850i convertible, best of all worlds imo and when they're tuned 👀
@worldisawesome6789
@worldisawesome6789 Жыл бұрын
Yes you do have a optional carbon fiber roof for the m850i
@petrolheadcarsuk
@petrolheadcarsuk Жыл бұрын
M8 is the top daddy of BMW, I live with 1 and its my daily. You will thank me on how cool this car is and Isle of Man Green is an amazing colour.
@babernethy13574
@babernethy13574 6 ай бұрын
I have owned an M850i GC for two years now, and it's the best and most fun car I've ever owned. I'm curious as to what settings he was using for the sound test. The M850i was definitely set to Spot Plus, which fully opens the exhaust valves. But the M8 sounds like it's exhaust valves were closed, as M8's are definitely louder than this video. Although it was loud in the M8 cabin thanks to the piped in engine sounds...yes, BMW "enhances" the exhaust notes with fake engine sounds through the speakers. And he didn't explain the drive selections very well. The menu systems are different, but he glossed right over the fact that you can customize the various settings.
@leandergold7338
@leandergold7338 5 ай бұрын
Do you know if the M850i also has fake engine sounds through the speakers?
@MrLalasd
@MrLalasd Жыл бұрын
You read my mind. I have been thinking of buying a M8, but wanted to save some money and just get the M850i.
@mathijn285
@mathijn285 Жыл бұрын
Wish i had those problems
@dariussmith2954
@dariussmith2954 Жыл бұрын
Thank you thats just what I needed right now
@Vvdc66
@Vvdc66 Жыл бұрын
Currently budgeting for an M8..I'm motiv8ted
@andrewkashmarek
@andrewkashmarek Жыл бұрын
max you are a funny guy , on top of that… amazing video
@shockw4we
@shockw4we Жыл бұрын
0:58 "I love men green" LOL
@stu1944
@stu1944 Жыл бұрын
M8 with a proper exhaust and stage 1 software unleash the beast to 900hp
@eth05its
@eth05its Жыл бұрын
Will there be an M860i and an M8 with the new S68
@pinkelephant8142
@pinkelephant8142 Жыл бұрын
In Bulgaria we live in the stone age. 60% of all cars are more then 20 years old. the E70 (A2) road passes through Bulgaria. the construction of the road from Varna to Sofia started in 1975 and has not yet been completed, the distance is 450 kilometers.
@hornet99923
@hornet99923 Жыл бұрын
bless you, you regularly test excellent cars
@nils12453
@nils12453 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video comparing the BMW M3 Competition xDrive G80 and the Audi RS5 with competition plus - package ?
@paulreid7902
@paulreid7902 8 ай бұрын
Love the M8. I’m being biased cos I have one 😂
@lasselaitinen4161
@lasselaitinen4161 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for great comparison! Loved it. And you're right: M850i truly sounds lot better than M8.
@ИгорьСикорский-п3ц
@ИгорьСикорский-п3ц Жыл бұрын
Gonna get m850 . Thanks!
@MahmutEkinci
@MahmutEkinci Жыл бұрын
Now that's the border, fun is over =)
@wszystkojedno696
@wszystkojedno696 10 ай бұрын
Great comparison.
@Catchingcars
@Catchingcars Жыл бұрын
aisle of man which you should not saybtoo quickly hahahaha nice! Good review as always! Thanks for your great work guys! 💯
@benmclean2291
@benmclean2291 Жыл бұрын
Awesome back to back review 👏
@cezarcristian2521
@cezarcristian2521 Жыл бұрын
Very useful and informative review, thank you for this.
@meetthemew
@meetthemew Жыл бұрын
Bruhhhh been waiting for this!
@pevvex4452
@pevvex4452 Жыл бұрын
Amazing stuff as always but this was even better. When i had a chance to drive both cars i had a feeling that M850i is so much better car than M8 when u want to have V8 and comfort. M850i is fast enough for everything except track where u have better cars to drive then M8 anyway. Same story was with M550i and M5. Its gonna be M3 touring and M850i coupe as perfect couple in garage 😊
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
thats a nice garage for sure 👍. I have a Taycan 4S and my affordable second car would be a cabriolet, probably an Z4.
@topsunnn
@topsunnn Жыл бұрын
​@peterhammer6915 so which one will be your daily? Neither of them are comfortable to drive
@pevvex4452
@pevvex4452 Жыл бұрын
@@topsunnn M850i is very comfy to drive. Have M550i currently and it’s amazing. Even sold my M5 because M550i is so much better car overall and never used M5 because of it
@topsunnn
@topsunnn Жыл бұрын
@@pevvex4452 I think you didn't understand my comment because your reply has nothing to do with it
@PlayafromtheHimalayas
@PlayafromtheHimalayas Жыл бұрын
I have a 22 850 and a 23 340. The 340 is the daily car.
@christophersono3471
@christophersono3471 Жыл бұрын
13:45 The M8 disappeared
@Blacklabelautos
@Blacklabelautos 3 ай бұрын
You can get the carbon roof on the m850 it just has the optional sun roof while the m8 just had the carbon as standard
@TechHead03
@TechHead03 Жыл бұрын
850i sounds much deeper and throaty to me. I love it.
@nedcoburn6421
@nedcoburn6421 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison, thank you.
@v12-s65
@v12-s65 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the review. last good looking bmw with the 5series and x3 btw you can option a carbon roof for the m850i but not a pano for the m8
@rootsmanuva82
@rootsmanuva82 Жыл бұрын
Similar to how equal-length headers subdue the sound but improve the performance of a Subaru STI, the EL headers do the same on the M8. I'd be willing to sacrifice 10-15 hp for a better sound (for the STI too).
@rawsoldier4278
@rawsoldier4278 Жыл бұрын
Put 100g plain flour, 2 large eggs, 300ml milk, 1 tbsp sunflower or vegetable oil and a pinch of salt into a bowl or large jug, then whisk to a smooth batter. Set aside for 30 mins to rest if you have time, or start cooking straight away.
@Technotroni
@Technotroni Жыл бұрын
-Beeen driving 3 series since 2013. This is nice to see
@Teejaay1
@Teejaay1 Жыл бұрын
stock vs stock the m8 is way faster of course, because bmw don't want the m850i to be too close to their flagship so they purposely held it back. Do a stage 1 and you get 680hp 850nm ( m850i ) vs 700hp 850nm ( m8 ). You get almost the same , so the better choice is the m850i 💪
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 Жыл бұрын
850 is an easy choice for me. Just imagine what you can do with the engine/drivetrain for this 50.000E difference.
@mihneafronie9390
@mihneafronie9390 Жыл бұрын
Do M5 vs m550i please!
@Zielu30
@Zielu30 Жыл бұрын
No
@Missacek
@Missacek Жыл бұрын
Would be the same thing with a different interior, basically...
@stephanvanderzee
@stephanvanderzee Жыл бұрын
i really want an M850i
@Anders_HeymSR30
@Anders_HeymSR30 Жыл бұрын
As a serial M owner (last one F90 M5) I get the attraction of the full M models, in their (perceived) specialness, the engine and transmission and suspension/brakes as well as that pride in ownership, but as I finding out with my latest car, X5 M50i, the daily driving ability of the M performance model is possibly a better compromise. I deliberately chose the M50i over the X5M due to the suspension (having also had an X3M Competition where the suspension is simply rockhard and detrimental to the driving experience). And as I do not have an autobahn nearby to exploit the (marginal) extra performance, the choice between M performance and full M models should come down to use scenario.
@The_Stanman
@The_Stanman Жыл бұрын
Agreed. There's also much less distinction between M-perf and M cars now. They have essentially the same powertrains just with higher tune instead of bespoke components (like DCT), offer M mirrors, etc. On top of that, M is no longer top-tier. There is M Comp, CS, CSL, Red Label, and upcoming Black Label. M has essentially become a spectrum that all share the same parts, and have lost me as a customer in the process.
@romeiiwolf3861
@romeiiwolf3861 Жыл бұрын
Started off shitting on the M850i ended the video with absolutely loving it 🔥
@eduardlast23
@eduardlast23 Жыл бұрын
M850 gran coupe is slower at 9.1 than a m550 at 8.4 100-200 thats quite a bit of difference in times
@GivingCri
@GivingCri Жыл бұрын
0:57 "I love men" - Max
@TJ-zq3hl
@TJ-zq3hl Жыл бұрын
Perfect solution is a M850i BR Performance (720 hp /930nm) + OPF delete. Sounds amazing and is even a bit faster than the M8. Perfect car and a lot cheaper than M8
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
The only problem is full blown M’s hold their value better.
@TJ-zq3hl
@TJ-zq3hl Жыл бұрын
@@Bimmer_Bill I can confirm first hand so I agree 🫣
@Bimmer_Bill
@Bimmer_Bill Жыл бұрын
@@TJ-zq3hl all good brother, as long as your car makes you happy that’s what matters most AND what you have is one hell of a car!
@nasosnasos8054
@nasosnasos8054 Жыл бұрын
Love love
@dennishuttenbugel519
@dennishuttenbugel519 Жыл бұрын
will take mine 850i GC in next Monday from BMW World in Munich. :-) Thx for the great review guys!
@Mrdanirago98
@Mrdanirago98 Жыл бұрын
If you don't have the money to go for the M8, you shouldn't have gone for the 850 to begin with.
@tepes141
@tepes141 Жыл бұрын
Oh, let's not forget about the Alpina B8 GranCoupe! Closer performance to M8, more comfortable, more exclusive! This might be the best out of this V8 trio ✌
@peterhammer6915
@peterhammer6915 Жыл бұрын
Alpinas are unfortunately boring nowadays. They miss totally the rawness of M-cars. Too much focus on comfort.
@Xhgne-rabbitChen
@Xhgne-rabbitChen Жыл бұрын
NICE CAR
@dvrk6140
@dvrk6140 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was a pass by clip when you're at top speed to hear how it sounds like
@agron.gjureci
@agron.gjureci Ай бұрын
M850i
@jayantsadhoe7566
@jayantsadhoe7566 Жыл бұрын
Zulke videos mogen vaker komen wat mij betreft!
@tujuhpersaudaraan4528
@tujuhpersaudaraan4528 Жыл бұрын
Why does the BMW M850i ​​sound louder?
@rikyoh130
@rikyoh130 Жыл бұрын
i will never buy those type of cars i think, but a 'comparison' is always cool to see
@blessed4164
@blessed4164 Ай бұрын
😂 Unless you're racing for money 1sec or 2sec difference is negligable. These reviewers have made people believe that 0 to 60 for the regular joe is actually important. 😂😂 Bozos😂
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 Жыл бұрын
Driving and talking at 230 km/h on the wet like it's on sunny dry day. Those cars are so stable and easy to drive.
@Euromasterrace5000
@Euromasterrace5000 Жыл бұрын
German engineering >>>
@blessed4164
@blessed4164 Ай бұрын
850i any day
@h.i.hussain4956
@h.i.hussain4956 Жыл бұрын
Have a listen, take a look, Max. Voor de rest leuk filmpje, zoals (bijna) altijd 😅
@PureDrivingExperience
@PureDrivingExperience Жыл бұрын
Both are incredibly fast! Only difference is 💲💲💲
@arster2935
@arster2935 Жыл бұрын
When is the m8 updating to the new bmw IDrive system?
@eccomz
@eccomz 7 ай бұрын
Unless the I Love Men green M8's interior speakers are on, it sounds great on the inside.
@shriramhalyal1082
@shriramhalyal1082 Жыл бұрын
No engine strut bar?
@rexpontiusful
@rexpontiusful Жыл бұрын
I would probably go for m850 with a BM3 tune. Should narrow the difference and you still get the good sound.
@CapnT87
@CapnT87 Жыл бұрын
How does the M550i compare to the M850i GC?
@orlandocastillo6862
@orlandocastillo6862 3 ай бұрын
I like how the other driver push that M8 as soon yall enter the autobahn 😂
@ΕυάγγελοςΠαπαδάκος
@ΕυάγγελοςΠαπαδάκος 6 ай бұрын
Alpina b8!!!
@AvatarHk14
@AvatarHk14 Жыл бұрын
M850i gran coupe is a good overall package with comfort, tech, practicality but when it comes to the M8 competition gran coupe, the M8 is just a Powerhouse, and it says that when we Rev it that it's only made for the Tracks BABY! 🏁🏎💪
@registrationaccount1034
@registrationaccount1034 Жыл бұрын
No heavy Grand Touring car is a track car whether its an M8 or not. lol
@mustangs_channel6970
@mustangs_channel6970 Жыл бұрын
This m8 color 🤤🤤🤤
@Thesoulxx1
@Thesoulxx1 Жыл бұрын
Wow so cooolt bro :D
@peterkogoj6847
@peterkogoj6847 Жыл бұрын
"Which you should not say to quickly " 😂
@GibrilLeigh-hu6vm
@GibrilLeigh-hu6vm 9 ай бұрын
i love the green
@dogu_kaya_
@dogu_kaya_ Жыл бұрын
in my dream... in my country, Government takes 4 car tax for the 1 car. So i take 1 car for me, 3 cars for the government. This car costs almost $800 K
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