The MOONSWATCH SUCKS!!! - Will I LOVE the Omega Speedmaster or Bulova Lunar Pilot???

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[@danzodamanzo8192]

David Scott had to replace his Omega Speedmaster with the Bulova on the Apollo 15 mission. Astronauts were allowed to bring 1 personal item and Commander Scott brought his Bulova.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Yea sir. Great info. Thanks for sharing. 😉👍

[@BartMan59]

I always wondered how he got his Bulova watch onboard his space capsule. LOL

[@insanedb]

We all know that 😏

[@swilkobarfingtoniii1642]

Being an Average Joe as well... We can always find something to do with the $5000 we'll save by going with the Bulova. Speaking of Bulova, they make great stuff like this and the Devil Diver and then they have 200 other gawdawful looking models that look like a small child with a head injury drew them. IMO if they'd just tighten up their range and focus on the stuff that moves they'd be back rubbing shoulders with Seiko like the old days.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Yes sir. That Devil Diver is a looker indeed. Thanks for watching.

[@davidgay6685]

I set my Lunar Pilot twice a year. DST and back to standard time. It never deviates one second. Friggin amazing!

[@b.santos8804]

I love the look of the Omega Moonwatch, and it is definitely one of my grail watches. That said, when looked at objectively, the Omega Speedmaster falls short in a lot of categories vis-a-vis a modern watch. First, it is a manual wind watch, and as pointed out in the video - one must be careful not to overwind it. Then theres the hesalite crystal. I understand why NASA chose that instead of a watch with a more durable (but potentially shatter-prone) crystal, but for us daily desk jockeys, hesalite is going to get scratched up. The water resistance of the Speedy is also quite weak, at around 50m (but i doubt any Speedy owners would even be confortable taking it for a swim in the pool). All that said, if I had a spare $6000 lying around - Id absolutely buy one! 😂 Full disclosure - I bought a Speedy homage made by that company that shares a name with a certain supercar, and frankly, I do love the look and can appreciate that it is objectively a very solid watch - for the even more reasonable price of around $120! The Bulova is very intriguing to me because it isnt merely a more expensive homage to the Speedy - it also went to the moon (although astronaut David Scott's Bulova had a manual-wijd movement also, and not this 262KHz movement in this modern iteration) and its almost identical look is because it had to meet NASA specs, not because it wanted to copycat the Speedy. Plus, that ultra-accurate movement is a real allure for me. I do love the mystique of manual and automatic watches, but resetting the time every week or so starts to lose its charm after a while. I think the Bulova will be my next Christmas present to myself. 😊

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Not a bad assessment. Sounds like you put a lot of thought into your decision. Good luck. 👍

[@kma86]

Full disclosure - I bought a Speedy homage made by that company that shares a name with a certain supercar, and frankly, I do love the look and can appreciate that it is objectively a very solid watch - for the even more reasonable price of around $120! - Haa! Love it! The PD-17##.

[@algheroman6476]

I have both and find myself using the Bulova more than the Omega. Manual wind on a $6K watch is not a big selling point either.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I get it now that I’ve had them both in my possession. I don’t think I would’ve without actually experiencing them both. Thanks for sharing.

[@stevepapa]

Bought my Lunar Pilot for $315 from Amazon which is a much better buy than the MoonSwatch IMO!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Hell yeah! Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for watching brother. I would buy that Seamaster you have in blue over the Speedy and save a few thousand bucks to boot.

[@stevepapa]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews oh definitely! But then again I'm a dive watch wh*** hahahaha

[@somewhereintimewatchreviews]

Awesome of Raphael to send these 2 pieces in for review. Good to see these side by side I totally agree that the Bulova just seems such a great value proposition compared with the Omega but both iconic in thier own right.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Surely was awesome of him. Very generous indeed. Both icons yet one will save you a ton of cash for more watches. 😂 Thanks for watching mate.

[@TheTownWatch]

Nice to see both these watches side by side! Blown away by the kindness of our mutual friend Felo for lending these in!! Amazing!!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Thanks for watching bud.

[@felo6035]

Hello Joe, terrific video, thank you so much for the shout out and your kind words. It has been my pleasure and privilege to lend these watches to your channel for review. I am also grateful for your friendship brother. I bought the Omega Speedy first, and then bought the Bulova Lunar Pilot which believe it or not I found on sale from an AD in Canada for $400 (score 👏). I love Omega, own 2 of them including the Speedy and a Seamaster Chronograph, but I have to confess that I really like the Bulova Lunar Pilot, and have a tendency to also wear it more often. At normal ongoing retail of $500+, the Bulova is just a tremendous watch with true space/moon history. It packs a hell of a movement, sapphire crystal, great design and awesome packaging including an additional nylon strap. Very comfortable despite its size too. I'm very lucky to have both, but in all honesty, and agreeing with you, it is hard to justify the price differential for the Omega. Thank you again Joe for your great work, kind words, friendship and giving me the opportunity to be a part of this episode of Average Joe Watch Reviews 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@bogrot69]

Very cool of you to lend Joe these beauties for the channel. I used to own a Lunar Pilot but I sold it and have regretted it ever since. Thankfully they're very affordable and I'm sure it will be back in my collection soon. I never owned a Speedy but I do have a Seamaster 300 from 2007.

[@felo6035]

@@bogrot69 Thank you so much for your kind comments. Yes, the Lunar Pilot is an awesome watch indeed. Sounds like you have a great collection too. All the best 👍

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

It was humbling to have these watches loaned in as Rafael only knows me through watching my videos. Extremely kind. Thanks for the feedback, watching, and supporting the channel. Means more than I can express.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

@@bogrot69 I can see how you’d regret considering the Lunar Pilot is a damn good watch. I may do see getting one myself. Rafael is a good man. If you’re not already following him on IG, I would recommend friending him.

[@felo6035]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews Thank you brother. God bless 🙏

[@wimbraber944]

Readability BLP wins Accuracy BLP wins Been on the moon: TIE The Bulova is quite nice.

[@rafaron7761]

The 262KHZ was the frequency of the instruments inside the lunar module which by the way were made by Bulova so you have it! Best of both Worlds for geeks (I own the Lunar Pilot latter model with the vintage logo and no date on nato strap!)

[@DavidLarsen-q1y]

The .262 was also in the instruments at Ground Control in Houston.

[@MirrlyonTime]

What a great thing that the subscriber Raphael did to give you a chance to make some great content, thanks to Raphael!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I’m truly humbled at his kindness.

[@TimeToGoTravelAndTimepieces]

Very cool opportunity to get both of these in for a video. Definitely generous of Rafael.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

It really was. Thanks buddy.

[@RoaroftheTiger]

Joe, thanks for the very Fair Evaluation of Both Watches. And yes, I've come to the same conclusion ... For what It is, the Bulova is a Bargain. But Please Note - there are actually several variants of the BULOVA e.g. One has NO Date and the "latest version" uses Titanium etc. Regardless, in comparison to the very respectable OMEGA. The Bulova is a very good deal.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

The Bulova is an absolute steal at the price they have it listed. Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching.

[@Box_13]

Having options for all budgets is a great thing for this hobby. Both these having some lunar heritage amps up the cool factor.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Yes sir. Definitely. Thanks for watching.

[@MichaelWillems]

Bulova did not take inspiration from the speedmaster. Instead, they both followed the detailed NASA specs.

[@KarmaFlight]

It’s not a copy t all. It was built to contract specs. The Omega does not pay homage as it is the same watch that won the contract

[@krystianstepien5835]

Honestly I`d prefer Omega of course but I cannot afford it. Bulova is one of my best watch in my collection. Appreciate the horology the history behind this watch and I love the price.

[@gtracer6629]

$6000.00 and you have to wind it by hand? That's nuts! I can think of many ways to spend $6000 incuding buying a whole bunch of perfectly fine quaetz and automatic (self winding) Swiss,Japanese or German watches and probably have enough left over to go on a weekend back home to Hawaii.

[@MirrlyonTime]

Both absolutely fantastic watches in their own right. I got the Bulova, it was a watch I really really wanted when I saw my first review on it. It’s gorgeous, as is that omega. But being that I am not going to buy a lot of luxury watches, the Bulova was a good choice for me, and first 4 months of ownership it hasn’t lost or gained a full second yet, incredible accuracy! My Bulova is all polished on the sides, not brushed or bead blasted…..one of the things that perplexed me about the Bulova is the size of the subdials given the size of the watch, they could have been a bit bigger. My Seiko SSB031 chronograph is smaller in size but the subdials are much bigger and they are more legible. Great video as always!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I’ll have to take a look at your Bulova as I didn’t know they had a varying looking model out where. What did you think of the bead blasting? Thanks for watching.

[@MirrlyonTime]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews I love the bead blasting, and apparently that finish is closer to the original than the polished sides like I have, I also have one with no date and a ghost position on the crown

[@ajw5604]

I own the black pvd version of the lunar pilot. Changed the strap, and it wears a treat.

[@WatchUnwind]

For 500 bucks the lunar pilot is a pretty slick watch. If you truly want a speedmaster but you can’t swing it finically you would probably be better off getting the Bulova over the moon swatch

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Couldn’t agree more! Thanks for watching.

[@WatchUnwind]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews of course. Ps that edit if you in the space suit is 🔥 😂

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

@@WatchUnwind 😂

[@bogrot69]

The Lunar Pilot is an awesome watch. I let mine go a while back but I do miss it. I'm sure I'll own another at some point. I do like the Speedy but it's out of reach for this guy. I'm happy with my Seamaster for the time being. Good to see you brother. Great vid as always. God Bless!

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I just sold my Seamaster as I had my fun with it. The Bulova blew me away. Wasn’t expecting it to be that good! Thanks for the kindness and God bless you brother.

[@johncarter6238]

Thank you Bro good video. and a 100% honest review. you convinced me. I'm going for the Bulova. because I also think 6500 is too much money for a steel winding watch. ok i like omega too. but i also like to keep money in my pocket. and buy a watch that does have its money-quality ratio. and the bulova has a 262kHz movement which deviates 12 seconds per year. And he too was on the moon. Because at Omega the glass blew off and floated through space.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching!

[@EA_3448]

G’day Joe, This is one of the best reviews by far. You are spot on with the Speedy bracelet, looks nice but it’s dainty and feels fragile and inadequate. Having said this, I think the Omega moon watch is absolutely stunning. As for the Bulova Lunar, it’s an absolute bargain and a fantastic watch with solid heritage.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

G’day! Thank you for that feedback! I hope to see you again soon in the comments. Please subscribe mate.

[@kingadjust354]

The omega speed master with the flat link polished center link bracelet looks amazing that makes a huge difference in the looks and it is the best watch I've ever seen with it 😎👍

[@MichaelWillems]

Why is the second hand not a smooth? Simple: battery life. Smooth movement uses a lot more power. (The movement is the same. It’s how it’s used by the watch.)

[@douglaswalston5667]

What did you think about the Accutron Astronaut. Price seems pretty awful, but anyway. Just wanted your take on it.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

It’s a beautiful homage but as you said, way overpriced. I’d sit and wait for the preowned version to start hitting the market. Accutron doesn’t hold its value well.

[@williamackerman6574]

Just want to mention that they look similar because they were designed to NASA specs, not to copy each other. A Speedmaster with a yellow gold case and dial would look great, but wouldn't have gotten to the moon.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Good insight. Thanks for sharing.

[@gregalonzo747]

While I am sure both watches deliver what they offer, neither is my style. I do love my Sea Master 👍

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I’m more of a Seamaster/diver fan as well. Thanks bud.

[@tonycalamita9322]

I have the Blue and white version and love it. I agree that Omega is a fine watch but not at 10 times the price.

[@juniorjohnson5961]

I think for the average Joe the Bulova is just fine but a bit large for me with 6 3/4 in wrist .

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I have to agree the cut off is at a 7” wrist. Thanks buddy.

[@nigelbowler1601]

Hi great review love your channel buddy i own a couple of Omega & vintage Bulova i agree the Bulova lunar is great value & in my view is better looking love to see you do a review on the Bulova lunar pilot Snoopy 43mm cheers from the UK.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Thanks so much Nigel! Really appreciate that feedback mate. Cheers my new friend.

[@a_watch_enthusiast2149]

I have 2 bulova luna pilots the dark side and the 50th anniversary and there great watches but there not even a close comparison to the speedmaster professional. Sure both look similar and they both look and wear great but when you get to the heart of it (the movement) that's night and day.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Thanks for watching!

[@stefantrujillo4664]

This is why I own a Bulova lunar pilot so I could own a seamaster planet ocean! 😍 can’t justify 2 moon watches especially when divers are just as amazing

[@buddhagunz]

Love them both. Just love moonwatches in general. Thanks. Keep up the great work.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Hey bud! Welcome back buddy. Thanks for watching. Hope all is well.

[@AllaboutHorology]

Great input ,very precise

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Thank you.

[@AllaboutHorology]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews how about a collaborative content together- LIVE !

[@miked3317]

Bulova didn t take inspiration from the omega. Both watches followed the requirements of Nasa. That s why they re alike. The bulova only look like the prototype one used on the moon as This one is Quartz. You can not compare a watch with a japanese High frequency Quartz movement in a chinese made case with a swiss made watch with a beautiful mechanic Swiss movement that was created 50+ years ago and is made in Switzerland . They re both excellent watches in their own styles and movements. If you want a well made good looking watch with a fantastic precision for a great price go for the bulova. It always be more precise than a mechanical watch regardless of the price. The omega is a fantastic watch, a classical historical model with a beautiful movement. The omega is as well status, unless you understand and appreciate the history behind it and the beautiful mechanism it doesn’t make any sense buying it (unless you ve got too much money and want to impress others att any costs)….. I owned the speedmaster and I sold it (as it spent more time at home than on my wrist) . I own the bulova and will always keep it. The 262khz movement is hard to beat at the price. They re 2 beautiful completely different watches that one would buy for different reasons. On top of that many people can afford the bulova, while the omega….it depends too if you want to use a watch every day without freaking out If a micro scratch appears or if you want a watch to put in a safe without daring using it. I would love to get a speedmaster again. But not at that price.

[@DavidLarsen-q1y]

Please! The Bulova design was NOT influenced by the Speedmaster. It was dictated by the NASA contract specifications. That’s why it’s more legible than the Speedmaster, more accurate, and easier to use if you’re wearing a spacesuit.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

@@DavidLarsen-q1y you’re correct on the first fact regarding the “influence” as the watch design was dictated by NASA. I stand corrected.

[@victorio681]

El Bulova es mucho más chulo y 12 veces más barato, no es porque yo lo tenga ya que soy totalmente objetivo.

[@tuber6382]

They are very different watches.... One is a relic from before the days of electricity and computers... Kind of like candles at one time long ago. The other is a modern watch from the days of LED lamps and electric cars

[@pjoe1950]

I love the Bulova. What's not to like. First and foremost, precision time that is light years ahead of anything else. Second the durability with the sapphire crystal quartz movement this watch will go forever with no service except to change the battery. Give me the Bulova and put 5500 bucks in the bank.

[@luke.perkin.inventor]

They're lovely but $1000 extra for two bits of $20 sapphire is hilarious. It's a shame there are no perfect replicas of the omega, would definitely buy one of them. The bulova is a better watch on every metric. Accuracy is the watch.

[@phil2518]

Just bought a new Lunar Pilot with a Bracelet for $450 on Amazon. Can't wait to get it on my wrist!

[@luke.perkin.inventor]

@@phil2518 prime day deal? :-D

[@mattys1467]

Great review 👏 👌

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Thanks Matty S!

[@DavidLarsen-q1y]

The biggest difference imo is that the Speedmaster, which was developed for auto racing isn’t as suited for Lunar exploration. Bulova’s design was in response to NASA specifications. When viewed in that light the true nature of the Lunar Pilot. The cost differential between the two watches is only incidental to the more important issue of functionality. From that point of view which watch would you want on your wrist while on the Moon? not even close, the Bulova wins hands down. The only persistent complaints are in regard to size being “too big.” Really? During WWII pilot watches were commonly 54” +. This watch is designed to be worn on the sleevevof a spacesuit; how big should it be. The Lunar Pilot can’t be evaluated as a fashion accessory, it’s a purpose-built instrument.

[@Rev.DavidJTowns]

i pick up the Bulova this week -- Omega looks great but for $6000. i have better ideas for that kinda $'s

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

You and I both. I was looking at Bulova Lunar Pilots yesterday ironically. 👍

[@agprime]

Why is Omega giving people the middle finger?

[@motorradmike]

Or…definitely male anatomy.

[@massenziotaborelli7162]

if they're worth just over 6k, this Moonwatch is not based on the 321 Mov't though ;)

[@chosearmandoarmando3864]

I love the Bulova Lunar pilot, but sadly it's too big for me.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

That’s my gripe as well. It’s a shame.

[@williamackerman6574]

I was able to get two moonswatches, Earth and Pluto, but my inability to get the Moon version drove me not to get a Speedmaster, but to get a Lunar Pilot instead. At less than twice the price of a Moonswatch, the LP is ten times more watch. Sorry Swatch/Omega.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Yes! I can see that as this collab not only helped Omega but surprisingly has helped Lunar Pilot sales as well.

[@kingadjust354]

Have you seen the watch related teddy baldassare and Kevin O'Leary Videos they made a lot of them 😎👍

[@harpomarx7777]

Accuracy-wise, the Bulova crushes the spring box ... and that's the primary goal of a timepiece. Omega makes jewelry .. Bulova makes watches. High Accuracy Quartz rules!

[@mr.chronograph9022]

Was David Scott an "industry plant" before industry plants were a thing?

[@manusverzoni2384]

Scratch that itch. Buy a Bulova. I agree.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Much much better than a MoonSwatch.

[@manusverzoni2384]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews Do you remember when on Chrono24 a Moonswatch was sold at 15k?🤦‍♂️

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

@@manusverzoni2384 I don’t but I’ve heard of some outrageous prices. Was there anything special about this particular watch?

[@manusverzoni2384]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews Only greed and narcissism.

[@bojanrimanic6010]

‘Bulova definitly took inspiration from omega’… not so, sorry to disagree. Both companies designed their watches according to the NASA specification during the selections for the official moon watch. This is the reason why they look so similar.

[@DavidLarsen-q1y]

It does NOT look like a Speedmaster. The similarity is coincidental, both were submitted to NASA in response to contract design specifications. So why did NASA choose the Omega if Bulova is the better watch? Probably because astronauts have expensive taste when it comes to watches. Only Rolex, Omega, and Brietling are good enough for the Pilot’s Lounge. Bulova is not known as a luxury watch. The Lunar Pilot is a masterpiece of purpose-built timepieces, but it’s pedigree is more akin to a Casio Royale.

[@Beck-Stein]

Omega looks better but not 5k better

[@mohdrizalbaba9544]

U don't just used to own a seamaster.... u do own a speedmaster, its on your 1st youtube if I'm not mistaken... the MK40.. I just got that MK40 last year... ✌🏾 ejal_baba_horology_maniac

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

I sold the Speedmaster triple date (first video on my channel) and I just sold my orange Seamaster bro. I’m Omegaless! I need to change that. 😂

[@JTW3159]

JUST GAINED A SUB

[@jwojan]

You never put the Bulova on your wrist by itself?!? The closest you get is putting it around your arm to compare it to the Speedie... Disappoint.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

8:52 you need to watch the video in its entirety before commenting

[@paulwhite8556]

You have to be kidding me !! You re comparing two totally different watches. You re comparing a superior watch in every way ( Speedy) refinement and pedigree. If you cannot afford the watch and want to convince yourself that buying a 500 dollar watch makes it comparable you are dreaming. The Omega Speedy is class miles away better than that watch. Not to say it isn’t a good watch but really ?

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

@@paulwhite8556 you’re ignorant to the fact that they both have a place in history as “moon watches”. Come on man, don’t be that guy.

[@paulwhite8556]

The ignorance is the fact that you are comparing a watch and another watch .. not the story .. you are that guy .. btw the Speed master is not a homage to the moon . The Bulova is a copy cat.. The Speedy has a racing history and it is in poor taste to even talk about comparing them .. im not a snob ( that guy ) as you say lol just being honest here .. comparing a timepiece thats mechanical to a quartz movement is ludicrous and i own quartz watches nothing wrong with them just apples and oranges.. of course 1000s of dollars vs 500 dollars is a big difference but this is a classic you get what you pay for moment..

[@NathanChisholm041]

Personally i think the Bulovas dial is better designed and less cramped easer to read and its ever bit as 3d as the Omega.

[@AvgJoeWatchReviews]

Yeah, I have to agree. The price is right as well.

[@NathanChisholm041]

@@AvgJoeWatchReviews Definitely! you can find them reasonably priced online. It just feels a lot more expensive than it would suggest! Cheers

[@samrodriguez9864]

I should have known there not yours.sins u rubbed them all on a hard table