Avid Eucon - Love / Hate Relationship

Affiliate link options below.
Please know that by using any of the links below helps me continue with the channel as if you choose to buy from any of the links below I will get a small commission.
Purchase All Sweetwater Gear Right HERE: - sweetwater.sjv...
Purchase Gear from Thomann right Here: www.thomann.de...
Purchase All Proaudiostar Gear Right HERE: - proaudiostarco...
Purchase All Seymour Duncan Pickups Right HERE: - seymour-duncan...
Purchase All East West Sound Gear Right HERE: - astoundcommerc...

[@Shawneverette]

EUCON IS BOSS FULL STOP!!!!!!!! They just need to create a real channel strip controller laid out like a channel strip with a touch screen. Something that looks like the Scheps Omni Channel 2.

[@terrygray7465]

I have an Avid S1 at the office that works flawlessly and I have the SSL UF8/UF1/UC1 system at home. There are times I want EUCON at home, but I simply love the SSL series. As long as they continue to update it, I'll stick with it. I'll agree, when EUCON tanks, the only way to recover is a full system restart.

[@ericlee5935]

What's the problem with your system? I use the same setup on my Mac and PT without problems and I also been using the avid s6 for long time without problems beside a HDD failure (replaced the whole module). The main problem with Eucon its more related to the connectivity using multiple Ethernet protocols at the same time without running dedicated networks. If you're running AoIP with eucon, internet, SSL duality/sigma protocols you will run into issues.

[@GuitarMonkey5180]

I always wanted a Tom Anderson guitar. Maybe one day. The times I’ve used any avid control surfaces, they’d cut out at least once a week. I’ve wanted to try out a control system for my system, but I don’t think I have enough projects to warrant the purchase.

[@regrettingthis]

Hey Barry, What do you think of the ssl 6 as an all around solution to have 2 stereo channels of pres/eq/compression as a starter. I currently have an RME digiface with a ferrofish pulse that I run a lot of drum machines and synths through but I want want some pres for vocals and accoustic guitar. I would mostly be using sm57 and blue mouse. I figure the ssl is a long of bang for my buck if it's my only outboard gear. would love to know your thoughts. Love your videos.

[@fookoo567]

Barry, Just simply switch to S1 like I said a year ago... LOL I know you will LOLOLOLOL Mark my words!

[@Shawneverette]

I just went through an issue with having the Follow plug in select checked would crash Eucon when selecting a plugin on an Aux track. I just turned the feature off once I found out what it was and got back to work. They Really need to stop with the adding features and get a stable version of the software.

[@muzicmanc945]

I see you have the Big Six.. im interested in what you think of the converters and the sound of the unit as a whole? I got rid of my Apollo X6 I don't mis it

[@BarryJohns]

I will do a video but it will likely me next month.

[@brandonwilliams966]

I use the S1 and Dock with 2 Samsung tablets and have NO issues at all.

[@JamesArthurHurley]

Barry, I said the same to the Audio Animals guys... granted I'm not using Nuendo, but I AM using a Hackintosh... arguably a rig that someone would EXPECT issues on. However, short of an issue with a connection to my server, I am not having issues with my Pro Tools rig, nor have I had issues in years. I have two S1's and a Dock. Again, running on a Hackintosh. I am working in ATMOS with internal and external renderer as well as the Binaural Renderer for Apple Music and plenty of other third party plugins and apps running all the time. I do NOT think its so much them, as much as it is any user's unique situation. And I bet if you got on the horn with Avid support, they would help you identify that something specific in your system that is causing you grief. Just a hunch from my lessons learned. But have some hope, cause there ARE those of us out there who have a relatively stable experience.

[@braxal6983]

All I know is I had a fader port that appeared to need a bunch of programing. No sooner you got it programed patch comes out and resets part of the programing or all of it. That is what is stopping from buying any of these units like SSL controllers. it appears Barry that things have not changed same for others that complain about it. Point is controllers take up space on my desk and if I have to work to get them work why bother? It should be plug and play and work right off the bat. The unit is suppose to make work flow easy not create me more work. Just lame. Sorry at this point controllers that do this are not worth my time period.

[@DavidGilden]

Love, Love, Eucon - when it works - make sure you have WiFi turned on your MacPro as it gets confused and will not lock to Logic Pro X. Many bugs to be fixed but Avid says its Apple fault and Apple say it's Avid, WTF!

[@MySCSStory]

Eucon is bad axx 🎊 I love how I have my workflow arranged. It makes my my life easier than any other controller. I just hope that Avid never discontinue the protocol. I do get random network drop outs issues. Usually a reboot and restart the Eucon desktop app and it comes back to life

[@MySCSStory]

And I’m using the Mc control v2 + Mc Transport

[@Charles-mv6qe]

My s1 was rock solid until I upgraded my studio converters and interface to a Dante based system. I use a Mac Studio, and it just cannot run Dante and Eucon simultaneously. I tried phone support with my interface manufacturer, converter manufacturer, Apple, and even Sweetwater. Nobody could help me. It’s too bad because the s1 is outstanding, the best control surface I have ever used. But I’ll probably try a uf8 soon since it’s usb.

[@mikeexeter]

I use exactly this setup. I run Eucon off the internal Ethernet and Dante via a USB-C to E-Net adapter. Both are on different IP setups. I have also used Dante/Internet/Eucon from a single port using a Cisco managed switch. It takes a little meticulous setting up to prioritise traffic and route things within ethernet I’m sorry Avid and Sweetwater haven’t been helpful. It’s really just about getting the right network protocols set up. Eucon and Dante will definitely co-exist. I think you’ll be disappointed with the SSL 360 if you used the Avid system as anything more than a set of faders and cuts.

[@STxFisherman]

Thanks for the discussion. I am planning on buying the Avid Dock at some point but it sounds like I can put that on the back burner for a while which gives me the opportunity to learn and fine tune the iPad Control App. I am wondering if the newest M4 iPad will clear up some of the dock crashing. I may have to put on my Beta tester uniform, take the plunge and find out for myself. Thanks again for the great info.

[@andreievkalupniek5717]

I have felt the same way but I finally figured out that it is a network issue- basically it only fails when it can’t see the devices on its network - and sometimes that may have something to do with the router you may be using to plug everything in - rebooting the router and computer usually fixes it Also set up a WiFi and a router just for the Eucon network and nothing else.

[@BruceLeaak]

now i wanted to ask you said it protools : ) lol not even the crackd version i want hahaha

[@leftofcenter4]

Wow! Barry i may sideline my avid controllers if this is still an issue in the future.. yep this is very frustrating👎🏽😳

[@leftofcenter4]

I am sure the S4 and S6 controllers are not having these issues due to there dedicated screens, which are hardwired into the controller units unlike the iPad system. There is no way Tv, film and big commercial studios would put up with such nonsense. The Ipad functionality was a cheap and easy way to give the illusion that you had some of the same advanced functionality as the high end units, but they did it on a cheap and so therefore we suffer with bugs that they don’t want address anytime soon. I wish they would just add dedicated Avid Screens to the dock and S1 but i am sure the cost would go up 250% or more

[@BarryJohns]

Agreed

[@indeloon85]

If I may, we use Avid S6’s at our facility and you’d be surprised at the “downtime” we have due to the surfaces. Not as much as it used to be but in all honesty, I have 2 S1’s and a dock at home and it works flawlessly compared to the S6’s

[@teashea1]

excellent..... Avid = crash

[@Mitsch76]

THX for the info. I guess the S1 and so on is not a cheap controller. And whatever work you want to do, you don't want a piece of gear to crash. If your saw stops rotating within a precise cut you are really having trouble! So I agree...Avid should fix this before selling even one more Eucon controller! ;-)

[@leftofcenter4]

It works with logic, i don’t have logic yet. But plan to get it soon cause i am ending my pro tools studio subscription and will update my PT HDX ultimate perpetual sometime in the future when i can afford to. I have not used my Dock and S3 a lot but when I did, i did notice the dock did crash or stop working/Freezing up where the buttons did not respond. Someone will come out with a better more stable controllers.. for the home and prosumer studio market, i was having issues on PT 12.84 eucon version, i was for sure the bugs had been removed by now! Guess I was wrong. Shame on avid. Pro tools keyboard shortcuts are always a good thing to master. I paid 4k for my S3 too much but i had a day job then. Retired now and can’t afford to invest in another controller system anytime soon. I have a feeling they may have made the eucon controllers to complicated under the hood, easy for software bugs

[@talldarkstrangerpr]

Love that guitar! Enjoy!

[@armandodiaz3485]

That stuff’s all “old in the tooth”.

[@BarryJohns]

Armando, the current version of Eucon and the S1/Dock are not very old. Maybe you’re thinking the Artist series?

[@Rhuggins]

Barry I’d love to see a video of you showcasing some of how you personally use it in a session. There isnt a ton of content out there on this, nor really a lot of talk. Would be very interesting; just a little demo

[@BarryJohns]

I plan to make a series of videos on eucon, similar to what o did with RME’s Totallmix

[@diegooliveirabenjamin]

The Avid thing again? 🤦‍♂️

[@davidwerntz8984]

... patiently waiting for the Serpent Splice video : )

[@BarryJohns]

It’s next!

[@arirahimzadeh]

Word !