Avoid These Mistakes when Looking for a Rear Bumper

[@xbpbat21x]

Refreshing to see a real testor and not some KZbin star pushing a sponsor's expensive product. Thank you!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Our pleasure and thank you! Always glad to hear people enjoy the content we make!

[@Winch_Offroad]

Ain't that the truth.

[@MrJoshcc600]

Dv8 is cheap china not expensive stuff

[@toddplager8676]

I love when people are courageous enough to post the MISTAKES!! Jeep or 4x4 communities can be RUTHLESS! I commend you for doing so!! I could post a ton of screw up videos as well lol!! Thanks bro keep throwing out good content!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lol, we all learn from somewhere. Thanks for watching, glad to hear you enjoyed!

[@Bluelightbandit]

I still keep thinking about how you instantly took that new bumper and "legitimately" tested it and didn't sugarcoat it a bit. #respect

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lmao... didn’t need people accusing me of playing favorites... 😂 🙌 #letsdostupidthings

[@tll2012]

You just saved me 200 bucks and a dented tub, thanks

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad I could help... 😂 🙌 thanks for watching!

[@BigManAlaska]

The bumper struggle is a crazy road of trial and error. Inexpensive, or super expensive doesn't matter when they have a lousy design flaw. Major recovery is my main focus and now I'm definitely going to be looking for oval holes as an issue. Thanks for letting us know what's up.

[@joserivera8321]

You posted your problem then the solution and the you retested with the mod. I love it man, thank you for keeping it all together in 1 vid 🙌

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad you enjoyed, 🙌

[@jwat2396]

I'm building my own rear bumper and appreciate seeing mounting differences.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Always happy to help anyway I can

[@Bluelightbandit]

Now this is good info! I'm planning on buying a new Rubi soon and I've been looking at aftermarket bumpers. I was actually leaning towards the exact same DV8 as you had problems with but now I believe I'll lean elsewhere.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Please do! Mall crawling... it will be fine.. this is NOT an OFFROAD bumper... Btw... exciting! New jeep!!! 🙌🙌

[@adolfocolon4673]

I have a JK Willys 18'. However, I love watching your videos - You don't pull any punches) Your " know how" experience is exemplary. You always make me laugh. A perfect combination for keeping my attention. God bless you and yours)

[@jwat2396]

I've run into issues like the elongated holes. I welded heavy duty washers on them so it wouldn't move. It doesn't solve the crappy service that DV8 gives but it's a helpful hint if you run into it with something else.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Iv learned pretty quickly to avoid dv8.

[@huntinghawk986]

Sorry you were the litmus test for the DV8 bumper. But because of this video, you steered me to CAVFAB. I just picked up the CavFab JK Rampage rear bumper. I am very impressed with the material and workmanship of it. Dropped it off at the powder coater, and the owner remarked that he sees lots and Jeep bumpers, but this one was the best he has ever had come in. Thanks for your review, it helped me!!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Just happy I saved u some money and steered u to a happy decision! 🙌🙌 thanks for watching!!

[@CIAG4PNP]

Thank you sir, I will avoid dv8 for sure now for front and rear ! 👍🇺🇸

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

🙌 glad I could save u the headache! 🙌

[@CIAG4PNP]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD do you know anyone who has the ADD Offroad Rear Stealth Fighter Bumper for 18-20 Jeep Wrangler JL? And if the had a good solid experience with it ? Thank you

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

0311Devil Dog so I actually know someone who has the rear... we were talking about it after we published this video... she said she is replacing it cause it was thin and bending... she does the rubicon several times a year... I was blown away to hear tht.... ADD is EXPENSIVE

[@Lawman-196]

Finally someone who tells the truth, great vid!!!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Thanks for watching brother.. glad you enjoyed... 🙌🙌

[@gamadmex]

I have the exact DV8 bumper that I also got from Quadratec. I've had it for over 6 years. I bought it for many of the same reasons you did in that it had the backup lights and an integrated trailer hitch. The paint has not been an issue with mine. I am not an avid off-roader, so in my case it works well. However, I do like the design of the Cavfab better having seen the comparison between the two.

[@hughwolfe1176]

Not a Jeep owner yet, but thank you for a very honest and thorough review.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Absolutely! Thank you for taking your time and watching the video! 🙌

[@jordanl5628]

When you finally get a jeep and want to do some offroad upgrades go find some locals that do some hardcore offloading with their jeeps and ask for advice on parts!

[@lonewulf0328]

Just installed the Rugged Ridge HD rear bumper on my JL this week. minimal branding, very secure mounting (2 side bolts on the frame rail and 2 bottom bolts on the frame rail, per side), and more than enough protection for the little wheeling I get to do. Honestly, it was more because of worry of having only plastic there, and FL drivers being FL drivers. And matches the Rugged Ridge Venator stubby I have on the front.

[@ShockWaveOffroad]

Bro, you made some great points and backed it all up! Loving that bumper, but I'm looking for one that protects those exposed corners too. Great vid as usual, keep it up!!👍🏻🤘🏻

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

They make a full width.. Gator don’t take no shit! 😂🙌

[@ShockWaveOffroad]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣👊🏻

[@juanarmendariz9943]

I'm glad I did research and went with poison Spyder never had a problem and money well spent. Great to hear your experience with that bumper.

[@ironhorse8573]

First time buying a front bumber two months ago from 4wheel parts which was DV8 a came in the box with surface rust I was pissed! I sent it back and got fab four front bumber replacement.

[@jasonsherrill3801]

I have some DV8 stuff and I have not had problems. The finish on most are crap nowadays. Bedline them right away. Smitty, DV8, the whole lot. Once you do, no issues. Tighten those bolts.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad to hear you have not had any issues with em... You are actually a small percentage of people to be able to tell me that. some parts I know prefer looking for bare steel,, bumpers are definitely one of them.... Them bolts were tight every time I readjusted it. like to the point it felt like it was going to break loose the nut on the jeep frame. There is just too much play in the mounting points and its so large it has to much leverage working against it when it gets hit. Thank you for watching, appreciate the comment hope to hear from you again!

[@Georgia4Low]

CAVFAB makes some mighty fine products right here in Georgia.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Haven’t seen anything Iv been disappointed with.

[@toolmaker5150]

I liked the look of their bumpers, so I did some research. I asked them where they were made. They said “China” , I said “Thanks but no thanks” I went with JCR.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I wish I did more research on dv8 before I bought em... I kinda just went off of people on internet... but it’s how we learn I guess 🤷‍♂️ thanks for watching...

[@WkndOffroad]

Very nice review, in regards of China made.... many, many US companies manufacture their products in China, smittybilt is one of many examples...but it depends on quality controls the owner of the brand request to the manufacturer...

[@ShepherdOfTheSilkies]

I only use JCR, strongest bumpers around. The rock sliders have been beat on the KOH course and are just scratched. They also have hi lift point that locks the hi lift to the Jeep so it can’t kill you. Coating is pretty tough too! Best quality I’ve seen. Outclasses poison spider, gen right, metal clock, etc... I’m not sponsored or paid by then just have gotten amazing products from them that thrived in KOH

[@dederonair]

love the The flashback to all them years ago, that hurt to watch the hit! Giving kev an brit a run for their money with the brand new jeep hitting trails hard lol

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

LMAO, my boy screaming "NOOOOOOO" kills me every time! Id be lying to say they didn't help inspire me LOL

[@tonyob2455]

Great video. I bought a 2020 JL a couple months ago and is preparing to change out the bumpers before i hit the rocks. I almost made mistakes when searching so thanks for the knowledge.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad to hear it and congrats on the new jeep! Always happy to answer any questions! 🙌🙌🙌

[@ati573]

Great points. I purchased road armor for my rear for the same reason you are pointing out. Another friend showed me his dv8 bumper and warned me about them and the inner fender wheel well liners. They won't stop railing on his jeep

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Seems the only time I see DV8 "hold up" is when its strictly on road use. For their prices, you would not think that was the case.

[@ati573]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I have the barracade front bumper, its doing great, but eventually I'm going to get the road armor front to match everything else. I have road armor out fenders, inner fender lining and rear bumper. All pricy but they are doing pretty good and have taken a bit of beating and you can't even tell.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

A ti I’m planning on matching the curtains to the drapes as well 😂😂😂

[@jeffreygourley1586]

Dude keep making videos. I am poison spyder guy. I like there shit. But pricey. You tell the truth. Thats what i like! We all need to go out weelling soon. But everyone is shut down. So thanks for your video! They help!!!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Absolutely! Glad you enjoyed it! I like how PS looks as well. People understand problems when I show them.. not just tell them... hoping this quarantine ends soon.. I’m ready ready for some fun stuff!

[@skywalker9265]

Great info, thank you. Fortunately I came across someone who had some of the lower end bumpers and I saw how they can lose their finish over time, let along all the problems you pointed out. Again, thank you for the video.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Thts good... a lot of people I seen running dv8 always talked about how great it was... kinda pisses me off 😂

[@tzehr2617]

I just installed a Cavfab mid width rear bumper. The bolt mounting holes are very tight (good thing), there’s no way that sucker will move like the DV8 does. Cavfab is a very well made bumper for a pretty decent price.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Everything Iv seen from them... Iv been impressed with the quality.. Also super awesome every step of their process of parts... everything is in the USA...

[@paxster76]

Looks much better too, nice job. You saved people a lot of time and money.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Thats all im trying to do! thanks for watching!

[@rtingdds]

Almost bought a DV8, thank God for this video!

[@k9driver]

I normally would contact the company first to see if they will make things right. It seems that DV8 had at least given you an offering for the inconvenience. The fact that you accepted it, which wrapped it all up from them being liable from here on. I had problems with FOX shocks and they dismissed me with a dumb email. I will trash their customer service department and share my experience with them with others. I give you mad respect for being honest with your product reviews and sharing it with us.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

The free product was sent after the poor coating.. not the flexing into the tub... Tht was a completely different issue... I will never lie when reviewing a product.. a brand or a part... if they try to make it right... great... I’ll mention that too, but I will not conceal facts for free parts... Tht betrays trust with viewers... and continues to allow a company to not try to improve.. 🤷‍♂️ I appreciate your feedback thou.. it’s always great to read what people have to say

[@gingie5246]

Granted I have a different situation I have an iron cross rear bumper for my Ford F-150 with those same adjustment holes. I just stuck on a snap on impact and rattled those on until they stopped and I have not had it move when I dragged the truck up a muddy hill with the shackle mounts. You just need to put them on as tight as possible without shearing off the bolts.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I had them on pretty tight... but my worry was if I went super ugga Duggar. I’d snap off the welded but on the frame and have a entire new problem on my hands

[@juanhartman8378]

Damn....breaking my heart here...my Jeep is all DV8 from front bumper to back! No issues yet but now I’m about to have to check it all!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

No worries man... not tryna throw shade at anyone... but letting people know the issues Iv had with mine... hoping lighting a fire under dv8s butt so they try harder...😂 as long as u don’t beat on it... I’m sure it will be fine... i wheel.. aggressive

[@juanhartman8378]

I wheel aggressive as well and surprisingly both front and rear are still as solid as can be! I think my rear is a bit different as it doesn’t have the lights. The issue now is the grinding in my front axle area....may have been a little too aggressive...any ideas for me there?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Juan Hartman Lol unfortunately... it can be a lot... bad unit bearing... something wedged by the brakes... twisted axle. 😂

[@juanhartman8378]

Well damn....looks like It might be time to upgrade it all from stock....any suggestions or maybe a new video showing what you have and how hard you can beat them!? Shit, I’m even down to beat mine the rest of the way with you if you find yourself wanting to trail here in the Mojave Desert!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Juan Hartman I have been wanting to do a video like tht for a few months now... I think it will be in the next few weeks.. Mojave would be a hella fun trip 🤔

[@tomaskey6844]

I agree that the problem is the oversized holes. If someone was stuck with their purchase there is a work around. You could bolt it into place with flat washers on both sides and then after it is aligned, weld the nuts to the washers and then the washers to the frame on the one side and the bumber on the other. It wouldn’t take much of a weld at all to hold it solid. The bolts should have lock washers on them.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Yes tht is an option..just finding a friend with a welder... Lock washers would also be an idea. I hate it when u buy new parts and new hardware is not included 😂

[@TheKillerMarine]

I run a Ram offroad and had the same issue as you (too wide). Most manufacturers think is already long what's another 9 inches. Since there was none on the market that hugged the bed (being so long you need every inch you can get ;)) so I started my own company. Great channel, might subscribe :)

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Large seems like a great idea, until you start to realize how often you hit things! LOL wheeling a Ram off-road sounds like a fun thing to watch! LOL Whats your company?? And we would definitely appreciate the sub if you decide to do so! LOL We appreciate each and everyone!

[@TheKillerMarine]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD Wheeling a Ram is total fun! Austin's Off-Road/Custom Builds. We plan to get our website up this month.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

TheKillerMarine let me know when it’s up.. would love to check out ur work!

[@TheKillerMarine]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I will we don't adventure into the jeep world, mostly Rams :)

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

TheKillerMarine I still like see what people create lol don’t have to be jeeps 😂

[@ZetroDrummer]

Like 500 points of respect for that final brand new bumper test...

[@jimt2316]

Hate my DV8. Good to see a real review for it.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad we could agree 😂

[@trebortech]

Not sure anyone mentioned this yet about the dv8 bumper but you’ll also have a problem fitting a pin in for any towing. I’m trying to sell my bumper now. Letting them know this bumper is not made for towing. Great video. Thanks for sharing

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I have been told this by someone else.. I hope ur able to sell it for a decent price... 😬😬😬 glad to hear you enjoyed ... and thanks for watching 🙌🙌🙌

[@kevingoza]

Enjoyed your presentation. Late to the game on viewing, but worth it. Hope you’ve had better luck.

[@blueroseyt]

As I am looking to replace my factory, plastic bumpers, this was very informative of things to look for and research before my new bumper purchase.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad to hear you got something useful from the video! Lemme know if you have any questions!

[@FollowingtheCliffNotes]

I went with Tyger bumpers. When I got my bumper I installed it and didn’t realize a decent scratch until it was on. I emailed them and they sent a brand new bumper and told me to keep the other one.

[@dcsoccerplaya]

CAVFAB bumper looks sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better! More functional as well!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Right! Massive upgrades this time around! 🙌🙌🙌

[@NYC-WRX]

I agree with everything you said,,,I also have a rear dv-8 bumper on my Jk. It’s 2 years old and the powder coating is all flaking off and it also moves and damaged my tub in the exact spot as your.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Blows my mind people recommend them so much... those brand ambassadors and their 10% coupons 😂😂😂 Iv learned my lesson...

[@TheZalmon]

I kinda like the oval slots for mounting stuff. Gives that wiggle room till you get it right, it does mean they don’t have precise measurements. But just an uneven surface can make attaching hard if it’s perfect holes. The nuts and washers with grip on the ends help prevent slipping. Especially once you torc them down to 130ft lbs or something like that.

[@Bigdaddyslasher]

I stopped buying after market bumpers for the rear of both Jeeps because we wheel them pretty hard. I had shop fab one and weld it onto both Jeeps. It's very high clearance and only have hit them once in the last 4 yrs on both Jeeps.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

That’s awesome man 🙌🙌🙌 fabbing is my ultimate goal... just building the skills and tools

[@beatuprobot2617]

Just wanted to reach out and say this when I first installed my DV8 on my gladiator I completely just started cutting once I learned of clearance issues

[@mrcee4934]

Great video, you definitely gave me something to think about while researching.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Long as you got something of value from the video! I’m happy. 🙌

[@TickleFingers]

Dude. Tape a line across the back. Sand, prime and rhino line the body behind the bumper. It blends with the bumper and cover the blemishes caused by that other POS and it's something you could do super easy.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I actually decided to add the Rusty’s rear fascia... it will help keep all the pinch seam together when I hit it again 😂

[@TickleFingers]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD That works too.... I'm starting over on a new rig. I can't decide how far I want to take it. Problem is that I'm falling in love with it stock. 2003 GX470. It is soooooo good at being a luxo SUV, but it is very capable off road too as a Land Cruiser. Decisions, decisions.

[@johnk4812]

You are so funny, you did break-in your bumper. However, as you were talking about and installing it, I kept saying to myself that now you will smack your spare tire on on a rock and cause other damage, and then you did in your video. That bumper is only good if you do a spare tire delete. I did however, appreciate the insight you shared when looking for a new bumper as I have recently purchased a new JL and want new bumpers. Since I am not doing a spare tire delete, I cannot consider this bumper.

[@bigskimeisterful]

DV8 rear bumper with swingout spare. Swing out bolts and soft steel allowed the holes to wallow out resulting in the framing to fail allowing 110lbs of tire wheel almost fall off at speed. DV8 to their credit sent me new parts…….but no underwear. Live and learn. The greatest regret comes from the disappointment of learning ya get what ya pay for as your joy from a great deal fades. Would I buy DV8? No. Great vid no fluff.

[@jasondevereaux3369]

Great video mo!🤙🤙 looks much prettier than that dv8 poo. Your mallcrawler is almost complete. 😉😉

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Sooo close 😂😂😂😂😂😂 gonna be snapping necks!

[@davidnichols7485]

Great video I know to avoid dv8 when I replace my stock rear

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

🙌 glad I could help! Appreciate you watching! Thank you!

[@RockSolidRig]

Definitely giving us some things to check. Our Jeep came with a DV8 rear bumper when we purchased it 😯

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Just don’t trust dv8 to hold up to any degree of abuse 🤷‍♂️

[@RockSolidRig]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD yeah, we've bashed both corners. Ours is solid across and the ends are tubes that come together, hard to explain and I haven't seen it for sale anywhere so I'm assuming it's way discontinued. It's dented really bad and of course the coating is coming off all over and the dents are all rusted up. Don't care to try and remedy it as I just want to replace it.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Rock Solid Rig was my thoughts on this one as well

[@chrishunt5291]

Looks like your new bumper has some good advertising cut right in to it. I have the DV8 and not had the rust issues. I agree its close to the tub. But like you ,I got mine in May of 18 not much to pick from. I have the baracade front bumper, and no rust there either. Your new bumper does look good. I also got the skid plate from them. It is heavy duty. I got mine for 425.00.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Rust where I hit the bumper... I expect... flaking chips parts where I don’t... is... I feel like ur implying I was being biased in this video... every point I made was true... honest.. I’m no part snob... let people run whatever they spend their money on.. articulating facts in this video seems to be a much better way voicing my opinion rather then screaming “dv8 is junk” on the web.. And with the intention of being fair... I put the new bumper through the same circumstance the dv8 failed... If cavfab ain’t ur flavor... that’s fine... I don’t sell their parts... plenty of great product manufacturers out there... cavfab is just the one I landed on. Thanks for watching 🙌 appreciate your time both watching and commenting. Stay safe!

[@chrishunt5291]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I didn't imply that at all. Just noticed how the new bumoer had its name on it. You're the one that made the comment about the DV8 branding. I have the skid plate and you can't hardly make that out. I took off the DV8 tag on the rear bumper. I don't think any of these company's should be branding there products like that. Its like a dealer sticker on the back of your new vehicle. No offense .

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Gotcha... u cleared it up... like I said... branding is fine... just needs to be subtle... the dv8 bumper ain’t bad with the branding... but their inner fenders HORRIBLE... rough country is another brand tht over brands... I just think someone should have to investigate a piece to see what it is.. not see what it is while ur driving from the other side of the road.. passing another jeep...

[@JLURBilletSilverMetallic]

You are totally correct bad RnD but they should have made it right by sending you a new bumper

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lmao, they shoulda refunded my money 😂😂😂

[@blkcc1]

As a jeep owner and a hobby tinkererer, I know about the issues he is talking about. Here is the solution. Either live with the issues, buy an expensive bumper, make or have made a rear bumper, or have a cheaper store bought bumper professionally powder coated (the cheap Chinese plastic coating is closer to undercoating than powder coating). Either way you go you need to have the bumper welded in place. I did this previously with my Ford F350 heavy duty aftermarket bumper and no matter how many times or how hard I kicked the trailer hitch with my shin the bumper always felt very solid and didn't budge an inch (or millimeter). Bottom line you can't get a custom $2,000.00 bumper for $500.00. And if you do get a mass produced cheap bumper remember they are designed to fit all the vehicles and all the possible production variations that happen. If you still want a cheap bumper and use it like an custom expensive one at least have the adjustment/mounting slots filled with something as simple as a piece of metal so there is no longer "adjustment" left in the slot so upon impact, there is no room for the bumper to slide or move. Pretty simple, just have to think about it. There is an old saying : if you can't afford to do it right the first time, where will you find the money to do it right the second time!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

This being acceptable is why it continues... it’s not... a lot of people who don’t know what to look for... deserve to know and see what issues there are... the common “don’t run that” u hear from anyone online is usually from people who are only relaying what they have heard or someone tryna Sell their own stuff. nobody has to spend $3000 on a bumper to be happy with it. And I will not weld on a bumper I’m not happy with, there are better designs out there tht hold it tight and together... and I show tht in the video. This video shows people not all bumpers are equal...

[@blkcc1]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD just to be clear since I might not have sounded like it to you, I liked your video and agree with the cheap bumpers that are expensive to buy and disappoint. Sorry if it came across wrong. Just trying to add my $0.02 about another way to prevent bumper creep and a little humor about how I hit my shin on my bumper hitch like twice a week till I sold my truck.....most painful 3 years of my life. 😀

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

We are good friend! 🙌 appreciate ur input.. I feel the same way about my wife’s stinger bumper... I can’t even tell u how many times iv been checked by tht darn thing lol

[@kirbytheap]

I’ve had many issues like yours with my DV8 rock slider side steps. Started rusting the first week with no off-roading. I won’t purchase from them ever again

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Yea... someone told me mall rated... perfect way to explain it

[@percyjackson2800]

One is for looks one is for function.

[@richardeblantonii5893]

The Jeep frame itself could be part of the flex problem that allowed the old bumper to do damage. Many bumper manufacturers make reinforcement kits for their bumpers. If this is available for your new bumper, get it.

[@ScareCrow1562]

MO!!! Thanks for your help today on the FB!! Got it figured out..... THANKS to your video at 7:08 showed me what I needed to know. Now I have to figure out these damn back up sensors. What did you end up doing with your tow light bracket? Mine is in the way of my bumper.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad I could help out,. Are u talking about the tow harness??

[@ScareCrow1562]

For the trailer light hook ups. The bracket thats houses the hook ups overlaps the bumper

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Hmmm... so my hitch is only the hitch.... I don’t have the wire harness... Is it possible to relocate the plug??

[@PunkN_JTM]

You need some rear panel rock skidders that underlap your bumper a little.. that thing looks like a dirt scooper alone.. I personally didnt like the look of the rear dv8, my fs 15 front stubbies have been fine.. yea.. i do agree the powder coating is Lacking in thickness . However.. i always add adhesive and Rhino line em to my standard.. get used to respraying the rhino. Rocks dont forgive .

[@davinreeves]

do something about it someday... The old school fix, just diamond plate the corners

[@abnpthfdr2934]

This rear bumper looks awesome and it looks like it functions well. I don't drive a JL, but I'm sure I can find it for my JK. I wish I knew about CAVFAB before I bought an Oedro rear bumper (which is the same chinese piece of crap as DV8) It has the same pod lights, same oval mounting holes, and all the same issues that you mentioned. Thanks for the info. Great video!!!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Sorry to hear it. My experience OEDRO is cheap Chinese junk. They sent me some floor mats we did a video on, darn thing didn't even fit right. They were a little hurt I was honest and wanted me to adjust my wording in the video. CAVFAB is top notch... small American business making beautiful products

[@Winch_Offroad]

Both front and rear bumper on mine a re DV8 and it does flake off too. My D loop nipple on the bumper was way off and my DV8 hood fits like a 2 year old kid putting using grandpa's dentures. Shit don't fit. DV8 said to me the oval holes are to move the bumper closer or farther from the body.WHEN ARE WE WHEELING TOGETHER?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lmao, well we see how tht design works 😂 Iv seen one of there hoods in person and I was shocked how lousy of a fit it was... so can’t act surprised... for what they charge... 100% UNACCEPTABLE

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

How it’s that u don’t have any wheeling locations near u... sounds like u gonna need to travel south my friend 😂

[@Winch_Offroad]

Wyoming BLM and Game and Fush close shit down.😒

[@Winch_Offroad]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD I got the hood for half price because the bumper was jacked up. 1 shit storm after another.

[@kirklaplace5013]

Just started watching you, love the videos and your hilarious comments. Bending jeep and leaping creeks is real living.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Hey brother! Welcome to the channel!

[@JEEPIMPACT]

Motobilt is my goto brand! Competitive or better pricing and super sturdy.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Good choice!

[@shockerracing]

I have not heard good things about DV8, glad you have found a better option. Also nice to hear that body damage made you cringe too!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lol, we all get accustomed to the damage in our own pace.. Stay away from dv8... crap

[@F2FTech]

Great video man! I appreciate the honesty and testing.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Hey!!! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video!

[@lancerman]

Nice advice for when/if we buy new bumpers

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad to help. Glad to hear you enjoyed the video!!!

[@justlife2129]

The issues you described were very easy to fix... Seriously, you liner painted the new bumper, you could do the same with the old one... To fix the "flex issue"... you could simply weld on 2 thick washers on each side perfectly over oval holes and this would fix it for good....

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Yea... could of... but really don’t want to support such a lousy brand...

[@mcoffroadinaz4075]

The Rusty's facade can go behind your CavFab bumper and protect the corners and cover up your boo boos. DV8 bumper did the same to mine, including trapping my tail gate, in which I'd had to borrow tools to open my gate to get to my tools. Live and learn. No more DV8

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Couldn’t agree more... they straight blew their shot with me... the lack of forethought is mind blowing

[@ocampofitfammily1931]

I always mask around that area and paint that lower section black.. 3 of my jeeps have been done and looks great

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Sound idea, and likely what ill do in addition to a reinforcement piece that goes over that area. Appreciate you friend!

[@davesnothere8859]

my dv8 bumpers have lasted well. My rugged ridge completely powder coat fail like your DV8. Must be a process issue. They should be the same every time.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Dv8 seems to have a massive quality control standard

[@rcmike09]

I know we hate to modify stuff, but welding couple thick washers on would get rid of the slop

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I had tht thought... but several things pushed me away from tht decision I hated the coating... didn’t want to sandblast and resurface it.. Hated how cumbersome it was and hitting it often Didn’t want to support their company on my jeep any more. Figured I’d I continued to put stress on those limited mounting points... it was only a matter of time before I broke something else... like breaking off the nuts on the frame....

[@SoldiersAttic]

Nice video, what products do you use the to protect the metal from rust/salt causing discoloration. Thank you. By the way. That was funny the way your little one reacted "Nooooo", even she knew that cost money.. thank you

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lol, an instant classic 😂🙌 I used raptor liner when I covered the bumper... cheap and easy to do... I can link the video if u would like? However I get routine scratches from offroading.... I typically just touch put with black matte spray paint when I do.

[@rb30athorn]

Awesome Fully explained, then tested! thank you!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

🙌 absolutely! Thank you for the feedback and thank you for watching! Means a lot to us!

[@deabruzo]

child's voice, "NOOOOOOO!!!!!" -- thats all of us

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lol... the first one is always the worst 😂

[@craigfrantz7369]

Aw man. I lived this exact same experience before finding this video, and I have the exact same tub damage on my JL to prove it. 😞

[@gabrieldean9559]

Thanks from a fellow NM resident!

[@motomike007-1]

Great explanation man I felt your pain every step of the way!

[@andyhorenziak7025]

so what do you guys use to hold your spare tire up the Teraflex system or what???? Maybe do a video on the differences and why you chose to have a spare tire hinge set up versus the spare tire mounted to the bumper setup

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Lol, I have the Cavfab HD tire carrier... misty has the Rusty’s HD tire carrier 😂 Benefits from the hinge mount.... More OFFROAD clearance Looks better And misty broke a hinge mounted one after digging it into the ground... 😂🙌

[@joetucker8582]

Ive only owned a JK for a few years. I have found that there are way more garbage options that are only designed to tough with no real function at all than there are parts that work well. I think the first clue is how big the brand name is on it. I have great bumpers, front with winch and rear with heavy spare mount, I have bounced them off of all kinds of things with no damage at all and have no idea who made them.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

It’s all part of the learning experience everyone goes through... granted.. this was literally the only steel rear bumper out at the time.. I thought dv8 was good.. I mean.. I see their junk EVERYWHERE

[@oncewaswicked]

Flex on the bumper or bend your frame rails ? The price you pay when you play

[@ericmixon6223]

Hey man great channel. In the video you mention that at one point you didn't know where to buy parts...how/where would you recommend someone find where to buy parts?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad to hear it. Northridge is a great place to start.... a lot of other places you can buy direct from.... Iv learned buying from places like, quadratic, Morris 4x4 and extreme terrain, thou occasionally offer decent product.. they mostly push cheaper parts,, which has it place, don't get me wrong. The CS from these same companies is hit and MISS.

[@demisx]

Looks sharp! Love your videos.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Glad you like them!

[@jaredhornberger2530]

I made the same rear bumper mistake. To add to your list it doesn't go well if you have a factory hitch, no room to use a locking hitch pin and you have to modify how you mount the trailer light receptacle, there's no way to mount it to the bumper or use as is in the factory location. I won't buy anything DV8 again.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Someone told me that this was a JK design that they just altered the mounts in order to fit on a JL.... which would explain the JK instructions included with it. But that answers a lot of questions for me. They clearly did not check for proper fitment with this. I watched a YT channel have to grind out sections of their rear tire carrier in order to make it fit. well, two actually. Ill never give DV8 money again either

[@tommyp191]

Got that bumper with chips right away. I got it sand blasted and rhino lined before I even put it on.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Yea, there packaging is severely lacking

[@tommyp191]

@@JLLIFEOFFROAD and engineering is terrible. The tire carrier to that bumper was engineered by a deaf guy who couldn’t hear rattle.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I Have seen a few installs on the jl... required some absurd modifications to make fit.

[@ThorfinnurPetur]

I wonder if you would have turned more to the left on the exit if the bumper and spare tire would have cleared the obstacle?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

🤷‍♂️ it was a really big drop... of course video don’t do it justice

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

But I run my spare super low psi for situations just like this

[@marioquiros5498]

If you used lock washer the bumper might not move anymore worth a try

[@guidok3762]

Great video, you’re the best! Real testing, real world, real products!

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Didn’t need people accusing me of being bias 😂🙌 thanks door watching friend!

[@Mezzgrave]

Perhaps this was mentioned already, and not to defend the dv8 bumper, but you are comparing apples and oranges. The DV8 bumper is designed for a swing out tire carrier and the cavfab is not. That is why it was larger.

[@dylanwatson8468]

I've had the exact same problem buying "cheap" bumpers on my tj. Currently selling them from some american bumper I know wont screw me over

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Yea... what kills me people keep telling me u get what u pay for... as dv8 don’t over charge like crazy.

[@mikebrown788]

Does the hitch have a tow rating? If so what is it?

[@Jeeptalkshow]

Powder coat < Rattle can. I'd much rather have a bare bumper (or anything that makes contact with stuff) than powder coat.

This is why I build my own bumper.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

That’s awesome! But definitely out of the ability of a lot of people.

[@jeepthis1257]

Thanks for the info. I’ve been trying to decide which bumper to go with. Glad I could learn on your dime. Hahah. Doing great love your videos.

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Thank friend! It’s unfortunate... but it is what it is... have you looked at cavfabs lineup? They have made some really sexy bumpers... they just opened Pre orders on a new one I wish I would have gotten 😂😂😂

[@jeepthis1257]

Which one do you wish you would’ve gotten?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Jeepthis kinda do... 😭😭😭😭 but hey.... 🤷‍♂️ I try to not think about tht lol

[@chuckbronco6485]

So you bought the minivan of Wranglers, and the bumper is the issue with departure angle? Interesting, interesting indeed......

[@jwat2396]

What kind of protection will it give you if you take a shot from another vehicle?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

I’d be more worried about whoever rear ends me 😂

[@BOONEHOUND1]

I'm digging the new bumper. I wish I would've gone more streamlined an apposed bulk

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Thank you! Have u considered trying to sell your old one? lol you might get lucky

[@alixaneugenio2118]

So would you recommend a American Truck Barricade Extreme HD Rear Bumper ? Also why did your old barricade bumper had rust ?

[@JLLIFEOFFROAD]

Any exposed steel will rust... high or low quality... it will rust. However the coating on this dv8 bumper was.... subpar at best... granted I offroad hard... Hard for me to recommend a bumper I haven’t seen up close 😬