Avoid This GIGANTIC Folding Blunder

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CrushlivePoker

CrushlivePoker

Күн бұрын

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@zekebones34
@zekebones34 Жыл бұрын
This hand makes me feel so much better about my game, thanks for turning this into a video
@Keptionpoker
@Keptionpoker Жыл бұрын
:)
@jarirepo1172
@jarirepo1172 Жыл бұрын
So, he calls with KK preflop because people are going nuts. Then people do go nuts and he gets a bit scared. Just pile it in preflop!
@jameswalker7420
@jameswalker7420 Жыл бұрын
The preflop call here is such an incredibly awful play. If the game is nuts shove now for max value. If not then this is actually a fold. But a call in this spot pre? Has the hero ever played poker before? Having made that play, the flop is an obvious shove. After not shoving the flop, this hand becomes a joke not even worth discussing for any reason other than comedy.
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 Жыл бұрын
@@jameswalker7420 there are games/opponents where you make this call pre and never fold unless as ace come, sometimes you shove pre and sometimes you fold. This spot is rare so not something we have put any work into just have to trust your gut.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
@@jameswalker7420 It is comical 😂😂😂
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
What's worse is if you are staying in, you just have to go with it.
@jamesjones2675
@jamesjones2675 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. If someone isn’t prepared to play for stacks preflop with Kk’s, this person has no business playing this game.
@SoulfightPoker
@SoulfightPoker Жыл бұрын
if hero stuck with his initial plan of just call down, it actually would've won him the most money in this exact, insane spot lol
@WillPage
@WillPage Жыл бұрын
I know right, but instead he just gives away half his stack.
@hbkplayz
@hbkplayz Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how his plan was to trap and call down but then he doesn't call down. What is he doing?
@user-jt2bf6ym1o
@user-jt2bf6ym1o Жыл бұрын
With only a half pot bet left after the flop as well lol. And turn checked through. I don't get it
@Glastoki
@Glastoki Жыл бұрын
Check calling down for max value is much stronger than it used to be, usually in headsup pots though.
@DStern20
@DStern20 Жыл бұрын
I think this is something that a lot of people will do. They set up a trap in a very raise happy game and then when a lot of raising happens, they will see the monsters under the bed. If you underrep your hand, you go with on a dry board.
@WillPage
@WillPage Жыл бұрын
I've done it. KK 4 bet, 3 callers (2 beast players) and it comes Q 7 3, c-bet 1/3 pot and get 2 calls, turn is a 6, and I decide to check for deception, it works and beast 1 pots it after it checks around to him, I flat, and a board pairing 6 or 7 (can't remember) on the river, see's him jam for 2 x pot and I tank fold. Claims later he bluffed me, I do believe it as he is that sort of player, and my deceptive turn check likely reaked of weakness to him.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
The paired board and check check I'd have to call the river.
@budthebud9108
@budthebud9108 Жыл бұрын
Monsters start growling. Well you fucking tickled their chin by slow playing
@intrepidus3378
@intrepidus3378 Жыл бұрын
If the caller has any awareness of the situation (
@JaxonHaxon
@JaxonHaxon Жыл бұрын
Its not a 4 or 5 bet, the raise was blind or 'straddle' and once you factor that in, its so face-up obvious, calling the open a 3! is actually the biggest blunder of the hand because it throws every subsequent stage of hand-reading completely off the rails.
@sean3533
@sean3533 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, it’s just third blind, they have 800bb otherwise, and vip wants to play for money. So given that, hero is basically limping utg with kings, hero lost this hand on the flop.
@madmanmidget
@madmanmidget Жыл бұрын
This! It's a cold 4! Not 5!...changes everything. Qq's 4! Makes sense there, and it's what I would do. Jam pre, but I guess if you want to be sneaky you can call and jam flop
@3betmore229
@3betmore229 Жыл бұрын
Or if you want to be extra sneaky you can fold river
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown Жыл бұрын
The caller thought about preflop completely wrong. A blind open is just a new effective blind like a straddle, you know it literally has nothing to do with his cards, and his cheeky flat is more of a limp that should be attacked. The bb raise is effectively a cold 4! and 100% what he should've done. The last thing he wants to do is price everyone in multiway.
@adamseidel9780
@adamseidel9780 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, that is where the hand went off the rails. And it’s a somewhat wide 4 bet too, because with the VIP and dead money, the button is often putting in the fake 3 bet with a very wide button open range. The SB is good enough to understand that and should 4 bet with a light 3 bet range, and so on into the BB. No tighter than a 4 bet range at tightest!
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, he was correct, but didn't follow through. He lost the maximum. 😂
@bobbywhite1645
@bobbywhite1645 Жыл бұрын
I love Barts reaction here. "UGHH NO OH GODD" 😆
@matthewdixon6252
@matthewdixon6252 Жыл бұрын
I'm a Nit, and I am not folding KK at any point. Shove it on the turn like I did in my $1/$2 game on Saturday.
@eklypzn
@eklypzn Жыл бұрын
He could have shoved 3 times, but he was just scared of the stakes. Almost sounds like he's playing too high.
@SweetDerek
@SweetDerek Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the sitch. Drop down in stakes if folding this hand.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
Either shove or fold pre!! But then, you just have to go with after the flop. Hard to play it worse...
@MattSpurrTrading
@MattSpurrTrading Жыл бұрын
I had a really similar hand to this KK one yesterday. I ended up all in 3 ways with my KK vs. QQ vs. QQ. It was $200NL and I shipped a $803 pot :-)
@mikehohenadel5563
@mikehohenadel5563 Жыл бұрын
This guys breakdown makes me less scared to play higher stakes lol
@stt5v2002
@stt5v2002 Жыл бұрын
You can’t say “he shouldn’t have queens here” when you are sitting there with kings that you are not supposed to have.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@TylerWx
@TylerWx Жыл бұрын
This almost feels like the caller just doesn't believe that he could win a pot like this so he's looking for any reason to fold.
@jack42011
@jack42011 Жыл бұрын
it is a bit of a sketchy situation, but I did see all that pre flop action and someone thinking calls are bs and squeezing and then the others players thinking the previous ones are loose.... But yeah, all that pre flop action might throw me off with a huge stack like that
@notNaB2024
@notNaB2024 Жыл бұрын
If this guy plays $5/$10 for $10K stacks, I have a chance.
@captzachevil
@captzachevil Жыл бұрын
Watching this fold may have taken years off my life.
@joshuakennedy8094
@joshuakennedy8094 Жыл бұрын
I always laugh at the players that like to sit super deep to try to seem imposing, but you can see visible discomfort in their face and body language anytime a pot starts to push the 150 -200 BB threshold. Bro, you have NINE HUNDRED BIG BLINDS BEHIND, and you're actively avoiding putting your money in every opportunity you get to make a relatively safe raise. You win this hand almost every time unless it's a stone cold cooler. You even have the luxury of having the bottom card paired on board. If you can't stand the heat, you should rack up and get out of the kitchen when you hit 300 BB. The small blind and the Big Blind came to play their money, and thats why caller lost the hand. This guy is clearly sitting deep, dreaming of a straight flush over quads pay day that will NEVER come.
@patrickclark7714
@patrickclark7714 Жыл бұрын
I had something similar happen playing recently. Only in the fact that I had a "plan" and then the "plan" was actually playing out exactly like I had "planned" it to, I completely nutted up and made a complete 180 from the "plan". Got stacked for it. The mental acuity of this game can not ever be overstated and hindsight is always 20/20. How often have any of us talked our selves out of or into a spot and been wrong? I have found that my initial instinct is usually right but I tend to overthink in certain spots.
@bennyzhitomirsky2076
@bennyzhitomirsky2076 Жыл бұрын
Bart: A river bet by J10 is not gonna get a fold from an overpair. Caller: Hold my beer. Also, I don't think that the 5-bet by QQ was out of line, if you think about the rest of the pre-flop action. the first bet was a blind bet by a VIP, so that obviously can be anything. Then there's a call by Hero, a Button 3-Bet with a ton of dead money, that can be a super wide squeeze bet, which incentivizes the SB to 4-bet relatively wide (Anything in the range of A5 suited AJ+ or 99+ can 4-bet there imo). In this case it seems like 5-betting with QQ is the right thing to do.
@MaydayAggro
@MaydayAggro Жыл бұрын
Bart is so nice to people who make huge mistakes. 😄
@WolfishJew986
@WolfishJew986 Жыл бұрын
I mean he won’t get people willing to talk to him about their mistakes if he’s mean/rude, so it makes sense.
@Glastoki
@Glastoki Жыл бұрын
@@WolfishJew986 Yeah but the way he hides his amusement and chagrin is worthy of an Oscar. What a poker face!
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if Stu Ungar was still alive and had a youtube channel? "You F'n idiot jam preflop or at least on the turn. You don't deserve to live. Do you have a gun at home? Spare the world any offspring." He once was a dealer for a period of time at a mob run club and he would actually berate people at showdown.
@daveythehand4964
@daveythehand4964 Жыл бұрын
I was laughing my ass off with Bart and saying at the exact time “SHOVE!” Lol
@Fixundfertig1
@Fixundfertig1 Жыл бұрын
He's like Kyrie asking Ben to shoot xD
@sensi2713
@sensi2713 Жыл бұрын
Jam pre, jam turn, jam river.... crazy dynamic given the preflop action
@gwheels25
@gwheels25 Жыл бұрын
Just shows the Aria 5/10 game isn't full of poker gods... plenty of bad play there too
@jimmyballs5662
@jimmyballs5662 Жыл бұрын
Who ever told you it was
@christianfay5845
@christianfay5845 Жыл бұрын
Re. "THE extinction of VIP splashers" When poker first came to A.C. in the early 90s, Redd Fox used to play 15-30 LHE 3-4 times per year. His "strategy" (so to speak) was to call all bets blind until faced with a raise at which point he'd "play his best poker", which, BTW, was notably better than one might expect (though it was pretty bad) Retired NFL wide receiver Roy Green played his football career with the Cardinals and upon retiring was a not uncommon sight at the 75-150 stud game where the was a tad tougher than what he encountered on the gridiron. Great guy . . . Legendary tipper . . . Once started a hand with exactly three greens plus the ante. The waitress and the masseuse arrived just as the cards were dealt and he wound up having to play all-in for the ante because he couldn't call the bring-in - which I mention only because he didn't get a massage ! ($25 for his juice, $25 for the masseuse, and $25 for the dealer who'd just sat down) . . . Funny as fuck . . . Very well informed on many topics . . . No head for (or just didn't care about the outcome of) poker. Fun Fact: During a radio interview in the mid eighties he was asked to verify that he'd recently said Roy Green was the best receiver in the NFL, to which Madden responded, "Sorry, but whomever told you that was pulling your leg. What I said was that Roy Green is the best skill PLAYER in the NFL. There's not one position he couldn't play at least reasonably well if he had to - and yes, that includes QB. (Rumor has it he played most of a quarter at QB in college when the starter took a vicious blow to the head and the backup was getting his ankle x-rayed. His line: 6 for 9 passing, 1 TD, 0 INT, 29 yards rushing, 1 TD, laid the opponents MLB out flat on a sweep. In 2003, a friend of a friend tapped me out of my 15-30 stud/8 game, introduced herself, and asked me to play her chips while she ran an errand. In three hours I beat the other 5 like redheaded stepchildren but lost all but a few hundred of it to him. When she returned and I stood up he winked at me and said, "You my new favorite bumblebee" (in reference to my delivery of "pollen"). Then he called for the masseuse, sent her to my original game and told her to "keep that boy limber". In the early seventies Jerry Van Dyke (brother of Dick) was "headlining" in the lounge for $400 per week. FYI: Standard lounge pay was $10 per set if there was at least two patrons, which there often wasn't. He was so bad that brother Jerry not only paid his salary, but also hired shills to watch his sets. But this was a drop in the bucket compared to his losses at 10-20 stud. By the way, while Jerry was among the kindest humans on Earth (and apparently quite generous as well since Jerry's upkeep cost him ~ $5k per month) brother Jerry was as mean as snake shit. A female player in the game once told him that her husband's plane was several hours late and would he like to "take a break for an hour or two", to which he replied, "Honey, I grew up on a farm. If I wanted to fuck pigs I'd have never left home". OK, wasn't planning that to run quite that long, but if you made it this far, I guess I at least owe you all an answer to Bart's question: Why did huge and steady VIPs (who almost always dusted off a ton) become so uncommon. Two words: "No limit" Even Roy Green, who barely even tried, won at least once in awhile, and on really rare occasion he'd kill it. And as previously mentioned, once Redd Foxx took his blindfold off he was far from clueless. (I saw him drag a huge pot with a set of deuces in a pot that was capped 8 ways preflop, 6 ways on the flop, and 4 ways on the river. A K 2 is a sweet flop with AK, unless you (and the other two "slicks" were drawing dead. Meanwhile, stick a true blue fish in a NLH game and he loses RELIABLY (as in, always if he stays more than an hour or so) and QUICKLY.. Luv you all. Be well. 😁
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn Жыл бұрын
I guess even $5/$10 players sometimes have "scared money". 🤣🤣🤣
@robertw8897
@robertw8897 Жыл бұрын
I think that the caller assumes that everyone should play in an exact manner and that is why he let it go. He did not believe the guy could have QQ because of the way the betting preflop went. By his reasoning, that should also rule out JJ and 1010. He also ruled out that the guy had AA because he did not go all in preflop. So, the only hand he could put him on would be KK? He leveled himself on this one.
@AT-bw4cm
@AT-bw4cm Жыл бұрын
Hero thought the SB had a wide range because he was closing the action preflop. BB made the 5bet preflop so he should be capped to a very premium hand. He didn't think BB should be 5betting QQ but the 5bet was really a 4bet because UTG blind raised. He also said that there was infinite raising preflop so he misjudged BB 5betting QQ. Thus he thought SB could have JJ or 1010 and BB had AA.
@garyl537
@garyl537 Жыл бұрын
This one had me screaming at the screen. Just get it in on the flop or turn FFS!
@fireinfireout
@fireinfireout Жыл бұрын
It’s an easy preflop shove
@jarirepo1172
@jarirepo1172 Жыл бұрын
He was expecting a lot of action preflop but did not shove, he did not get it in on the flop or on the turn. So many spots to get money in and win (preflop maybe not all of it but sigh). Why call preflop if you will still fold with those pot odds?
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
The paired board was great as you see by the reveal and counterfeit. He gets max value calling the river. I'm a bit of a nit but if get there like that I call off in a crazy game with KK. I snap call...
@ryanlisterman1864
@ryanlisterman1864 Жыл бұрын
If you're going to fold your under-repped hand, don't ever under rep your hand
@lifeiswonderful22
@lifeiswonderful22 Жыл бұрын
As Bart said, treat the $50 like a blind. Then the SB has a standard 3bet range against btn open, which isn't that strong compared to KK. BB 4bet could be AA, but could also be 1010+ and AK. I just shove KK pre-flop here.
@dan22482
@dan22482 Жыл бұрын
Classic example of why slow playing gets people into trouble. When you under rep your hand this immensely and are getting pot odds you just cannot fold. On the other hand it shows how you can effectively get worse hands to stack off because they won't ever put you on such a strong hand. Gotta click call though...
@craigerc713
@craigerc713 Жыл бұрын
I realized playing poker for a while that I would rather lose all my money if someone has aces there instead of losing out on a massive pot because I folded the best hand.
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 Жыл бұрын
Damn thats true
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 Жыл бұрын
Could you ever fold QQ preflop
@craigerc713
@craigerc713 Жыл бұрын
@@godwin0605 I have before ya.
@GhengisKhak
@GhengisKhak Жыл бұрын
This hand can be parsed and reasoned through much more cleanly by treating it as a 4bet pot instead of a 5bet pot. UTG whale’s blind raise to $50 changes the dynamic of the hand dramatically, both in ranges and in stack depth. Seriously, folding QQ out of the BB seems like a mega punt if hands as weak as JTcc are still in SB’s range as the cold 3-bettor!
@moaf2padventures757
@moaf2padventures757 Жыл бұрын
i prefer a jam pf. my thinking is that theres so much dead money in there already that im fine if they all fold and also fine if they call and run it out. and aces are probably getting my stack anyway (unless perhaps i smooth call and one of remaining two aces flop, which ofc is a pretty big longshot) since we're not deep enough that i feel awful about getting it in pf here. having said that, i dont *totally* hate how hero played this pf and flop. i think stringing them along here is ok once in a while given how insanely dry the board is. i mean, i dont love it, and i certainly dont think its optimal, but i think its reasonable and you should probably have this tool in your toolbox. but come on man, on the turn you just have to jam it in. i mean you have a half pot sized bet left. if youre being trapped its too late anyway. what if a club or ace comes on the river and one of your opponents jams? youre going to want to throw up. this is the clearest shove ever. as played, i think the river is a clear call. we have DRASTICALLY underrepped our hand here and we're getting infinite odds. i get that with an overcall it looks pretty bad for us but you really dont have to squint too hard to see scenarios where we have the best hand bc of how passively we've played this. we only have to be good, what, like 20%?? basically the biggest mistake you can ever make in poker is to fold out a good amount of equity in a big pot. also, fwiw, i much prefer making this move pf with AA instead of KK. i get that we have to play the cards we're dealt and if you felt it was a great spot to slowplay pf then you just have to do it. just in general though. idk i guess ive just been bitten by the 'slowplay KK pf, not get my backraise in, 5 people to the flop and an ace comes' scenario too many times in my life lol.
@fireinfireout
@fireinfireout Жыл бұрын
It’s def a jam pre
@pugsnhogz
@pugsnhogz Жыл бұрын
Bart's "oh no" at the end sounds like he just found out his dog got hit by a car lmao
@kavito96
@kavito96 Жыл бұрын
I can only hope to get a guy like the hero on one of my tables :)
@chauncieextreme8514
@chauncieextreme8514 Жыл бұрын
all of it. preflop….or turn, def river. perfect setups don’t happen often. (even when you misplay every street)
@mikeg3747
@mikeg3747 Жыл бұрын
@Eugene it's so rare to play the whole hand wrong multi way, and still have max value to fall into your lap......just ridiculous
@sean3533
@sean3533 Жыл бұрын
Thumbnails been on point this December 😂
@DONK2
@DONK2 Жыл бұрын
Yo Bart, you gotta stop making people repeat themselves...every podcast bro. Listen to your callers, that's what makes a great host. Mad respect on the breakdowns as always though. Cheers, - DONK2
@henryschumann442
@henryschumann442 Жыл бұрын
If I heard correctly, the caller said if either player behind jammed he would just fold his call of the 5 bet. That’s just lighting money on fire. If folding in an option later in pre flop then don’t call the 5 bet to stay in preflop.
@EllieBanks333
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
I love the caller's voice. I hate every decision he made in this hand. Literally every one was the worst of the possible choices.
@EllieBanks333
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
Almost forgot, hero is saying this was 5 bet pre. I disagree. UTG just put in a blind bet. The BTN is the actual opener. SB 3 bet & BB 4 bet.
@rverges23
@rverges23 Жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone is forgetting that this is a blind raise followed by late vs late vs late action. Because it is a blind bet to start I would look at the SB 4bet as a 3bet vs a BTN open and BB's raise with QQ makes a ton of sense. KK should definitely still feel decently good about his spot. That said if I were in his spot I probably just look at the action in front of me and be paralyzed by it too. haha
@noThankyou-g5c
@noThankyou-g5c Жыл бұрын
yeah i mean i think it comes down to the amount of money at play. It’s an easy call if the everything was divided by 10 but everybody is acting like they’d snap shove $5000 of their own money in a 3 way pot. In hindsight you know it’s absolutely the right play, especially when you know the result but most people are going to sweat betting a month or two’s income on one hand whatever the board is if you’re not nutted.
@rverges23
@rverges23 Жыл бұрын
@@noThankyou-g5c You're a 1000% right. I guess for me I'm never sitting behind money I can't afford to lose. I assume these are normal stakes for the players involved. I think preflop could have been played differently/ better and the turn is a must jam.
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe Жыл бұрын
​@@noThankyou-g5c Then don't play 5/10 if making the right decision is too stressful.
@seanariamd9581
@seanariamd9581 Жыл бұрын
i agree 100%. i think after the fact its easier to evaluate everything but in the moment i was just like wtf is happening lol
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
Well, either fold pre or jam...
@sgp9608
@sgp9608 Жыл бұрын
You deserve a lot of credit for calling in. It's easy to be results-oriented but someone could have easily had AA JJ or TT in a 4-bet pot. It's not an easy spot to call here.
@pugsnhogz
@pugsnhogz Жыл бұрын
Define "easy"... what do you want, the other guys to turn over their cards? Nah man, issa call all day with this action and config
@TheDazeez
@TheDazeez Жыл бұрын
Most of these hands discussed I know exactly without a doubt what I would do in that situation… this one had me thinking because I’m a tight player. I would have to say after the flop someone AT LEAST has pocket ACES or pocket J’s and might have folded but based on the activity throughout the hand I would start thinking did someone play AK, AQ or AJ with all those raises? And if they did that could that mean they played pocket 2’s or pocket 4’s? Lol this hand would drive me nuts, although I do agree once they got to the river all the players were basically priced in and I would have had to call 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Its__Good
@Its__Good Жыл бұрын
Another day where I'm amazed that someone is willing to play at these stakes when they lack fundamental poker skills.
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn Жыл бұрын
Obviously playing with "scared money". I'm never checking-through on that Turn...NEVER.
@fireinfireout
@fireinfireout Жыл бұрын
So true
@PokrRat777
@PokrRat777 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is one of the most off the rails hands I've ever seen
@daithi1966
@daithi1966 Жыл бұрын
I love these hands that are basically --- How to misplay your hand on every street.
@davemick1487
@davemick1487 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a case of playing with scared money. Preflop shove was the correct move.
@Adam-gm9hf
@Adam-gm9hf Жыл бұрын
Once turn action checks to the hero, it’s so obvious that he is good. Hero even said he doesn’t consider this a real 5B cuz UTG blind raises. So with that said how can your reasoning for fold be that the BB 5 bet???
@AC-wl7ve
@AC-wl7ve Жыл бұрын
Yup. A dream board for him as well. What was he hoping for when he flatted kk
@SovietWrath
@SovietWrath Жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe the SB with J10 off called a 4 bet to 2050.
@bobbywhite1645
@bobbywhite1645 Жыл бұрын
Got the Ace magnets and they didn't draw an Ace. Getting amazing odds to call. Strength of your hand is extremely well hidden because you play super passive. Oh well, better fold.
@sean3533
@sean3533 Жыл бұрын
The fact that UTG put his straddle out after the cards are dealt changes nothing. He’s still blind, he has any two cards, it’s still 2bb raise. On preflop, the BB is effectively putting in the 4! And yes KK is a 5 bet jam. Just should shoved it pre or raised instead of limping
@lukerouhselang7054
@lukerouhselang7054 Жыл бұрын
He’s trying so hard to get Bart to defend his play when he knows it was horrendous. He called 50 to induce action and then when action occurs he plays super scared lol how dumb
@WillPage
@WillPage Жыл бұрын
Bit harsh, yes he had to jam pre or turn, almost everyone would have, but to suggest the action wasn't pause-worthy? I don't even mind a fold, if you aren't sure (I have jammed KK into AA many times), but I think he genuinely wanted to hear what Bart thought, takes balls to ring in this hand. My concern, is was he trying to be too clever, some people study hard, practise, improve and really get too excited about making big laydowns.
@WillPage
@WillPage Жыл бұрын
J-10 shoving representing top boat actually makes sense.
@martinst-pierre6620
@martinst-pierre6620 Жыл бұрын
It’s not really a five bet pot since the UTG open shouldn’t count as a raise. Sure there’s a decent amount of fireworks going on but they are coming from a late configuration.
@dylanrobbins1245
@dylanrobbins1245 Жыл бұрын
also with the blind raise im never not 5! sticking it, AA can have my money
@chazsmith20
@chazsmith20 Жыл бұрын
Let me see I get this right. You only have to be right on the river 20% of the time and you probably have 80% Equity on this board. I had to see my gastroenterologist after watching this.
@chad0x
@chad0x Жыл бұрын
owned yourself there. Shocking play.
@recPokerFish
@recPokerFish Жыл бұрын
wow....that was an interesting way to play KK
@JBrandonMercer123
@JBrandonMercer123 Жыл бұрын
Call off half your stack and fold to a river jam on a dry board with no ace. Bold move, Cotton!
@iambadatpickingusernames6669
@iambadatpickingusernames6669 Жыл бұрын
“It’s not going to get a fold from an overpair, I wonder about that play from JT.” Hero: am I nothing to you.
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan Жыл бұрын
tbf to hero he would have called if BB folded (probably). It is interesting though because yeah, he has to be targeting BB having exactly QQ and folding with someone behind him and then hero having nothing (which seems impossible given hero called flop). Definitely an extremely ambitious bluff, at the same time if you say he is supposed to have some bluff shoves it is hard to find that many candidates that get here other than JXcc and JXhh. I can kind of get behind SB having no bluffs in this spot but then hero's fold actually makes sense which also seems clearly wrong.
@benlloyd9448
@benlloyd9448 Жыл бұрын
I mean. He didn't get the fold though...
@dukeandking64
@dukeandking64 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t this fold caused by the fact they play 500 or 1000bb deep and they can’t handle that ? I say that with humility just bc in my 2/4 game with 500 in front of me, I would call and I may be scared with his stack….
@chriszehren3856
@chriszehren3856 Жыл бұрын
This guy butchered this hand in so many ways, and then is afraid of monsters under the bed. He just doesn’t want to put the money in, played ridiculously scared.
@cameronsmith9448
@cameronsmith9448 Жыл бұрын
Brutal stuff here
@patrick_kyker
@patrick_kyker Жыл бұрын
He questions Queens raise but yet he limps under the gun with King King.
@hymnofashes
@hymnofashes Жыл бұрын
6-bet. Shove pre. Take your $3000. Every so often you have to get it in vs AA with 18% equity which sucks, but grow a pair. You don't limp so you can fold when the table loses its mind. That was your plan.
@matthewwestcott9138
@matthewwestcott9138 Жыл бұрын
It's a 4 bet not a 5 bet effectively. A donk blind raised after missing a straddle. That's why QQ is 4 betting out of the BB. He knows button can open wide and the sb should 3 bet or fold. So a 4 bet is entirely appropriate. Sean knew this at the start of the hand but forgot by the end. For that reason I chose my eyes and call, if I haven't shoved flop/turn. That said, caller is a quality human and good player 🙂 🩵. Always a pleasure to hear you call in to the show Sean 👍
@mikemck4796
@mikemck4796 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like caller is scared of the money. Might need a smaller game.
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe Жыл бұрын
Haven't even made it to the flop yet. But with K's with all that pre flop action it's a 6 bet shove or fold. What flop do you want to see here other than a K.
@tylerslenk8243
@tylerslenk8243 Жыл бұрын
You have kings. Just put the money in
@gazorpazorp9798
@gazorpazorp9798 Жыл бұрын
SB doesn’t have AA. This doesn’t seem clear to the caller. SB may not be as good as caller thinks. How does he not jam on the flop, turn or riv 🙄
@maxpritsch287
@maxpritsch287 Жыл бұрын
Wow live poker is still well and alive
@ClementeDesigns
@ClementeDesigns Жыл бұрын
I‘m just thinking, with the dead money, btn has an easy open, sb (considering the fact you think he‘s the best player), recognises btn‘s raise, has a ton of 4-bet bluffs. So after bb and you overcalling, I think he would jam AA,KK, fold JJ. So he must call with suited connectors that can be good against top range. After all the checkes on turn, you must have the best hand… JT bluff on river seems so logical. I think sb folds JJ or TT pre, bur rather calls with equity hands like JTss.
@harrynamkoong3361
@harrynamkoong3361 Жыл бұрын
If you are gonna fold KK at any point short of someone showing you JJ after the flop or showing AA preflop, why are you playing NLH???
@daeslee1819
@daeslee1819 Жыл бұрын
Poker God gave him 4 Chances Preflop Flop Turn River
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the first raise in blind so this is a 4 bet to you and a 5 best seems fine. If you want to make the call here you can’t fold unless an ace comes. Last folding here is also fine the only thing that’s bad is calling pre then folding on a board not containing an ace.
@dasright1187
@dasright1187 Жыл бұрын
Man easy jam pre given the action. If you run into AA then oh well. How do you not try and scoop the 3k pre. That’s a dream spot and he blunders every street 😂
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I have to be critical of this call he made preflop. I haven't even gotten to the end of the video yet but this rationale is NUTS. He's basically saying if the 2 players left to act after him decide to shove it THEN he's folding. THEN he's folding. Not to a 5 bet to 2000! LOL, No I'm willing to throw away 2000 just to see whether someone behind me jams since there is just NO WAY someone who 5 bet to 2000 could be the guy with Aces. WTF!?!?!? Hero ony has 2 moves once it gets back to him. Jam or Fold. What are you expecting to see on the flop? Hoping to hit a set? Avoid an A? One of the villains could easily have pocket Aces. So WHAT are you thinking the flop will do for you? This call is a PURE "I don't know what to do" Call.
@speakinfaxonly21
@speakinfaxonly21 Жыл бұрын
No. He could not have tank called with AA on the river. You know why? Because AA doesn't have the opportunity to call a jam on the river as it's NEVER checking the turn. It's always jamming. He checked QQ for pot control given somebody could have KK here.
@kennyvoller5419
@kennyvoller5419 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣. Your so right... AA NEVER checks the turn..
@AC-wl7ve
@AC-wl7ve Жыл бұрын
What an absolute blunder
@notNaB2024
@notNaB2024 Жыл бұрын
Is this the 2023 shirt? Sweet.
@soundbite4531
@soundbite4531 Жыл бұрын
With the large preflop raises you cant slow play KK imo. If he jams pre then most of the time you will be heads up or collecting the pot. Cant let it go 3 way with that amount in the pot pre with KK. Was a good fold in the end though lol doubt I'd have made it lol
@Glastoki
@Glastoki Жыл бұрын
Clear cut case of sniper syndrome along with a lack of considering that every play he made until the river was just a check or call and therefore his range was under repped.
@josephmerlina9397
@josephmerlina9397 Жыл бұрын
Play at the aria and stay there every trip to Vegas. I gotta find these players,, every time I’ve played 5/10 or bigger the players are never this bad .
@SerErryk
@SerErryk Жыл бұрын
"Just shove it all in". That's what she said.
@SerErryk
@SerErryk Жыл бұрын
@Eugene Giggity.
@blazeron12
@blazeron12 Жыл бұрын
Whoa new shirt alert.
@samcai6874
@samcai6874 Жыл бұрын
I am shouting All in at PR FLOP TURN while watching, grh the caller choose the worse possible way to play KK. And I am mad when at the end when he complains about how the BB played his QQ, he probably should look at how he played his KK first
@gbfreighttrain
@gbfreighttrain Жыл бұрын
HI Bart. Really enjoy your videos, I like the calm measured thoughts. Quick different question: I've been looking for a giant large mug just like the one you are drinking from. Can you tell me the brand or name or store it came from? Thanks
@WillPage
@WillPage Жыл бұрын
If you get in your head too much pre, I can understand it (sort of), but how you check the turn, I just don't get it.
@Melvinvanharn
@Melvinvanharn Жыл бұрын
Apparently we are calling 2k preflop to try and set mine with KK?
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 Жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 21 күн бұрын
Gotta jam flop
@danielhurst8863
@danielhurst8863 Жыл бұрын
Stopped 2:50. This is not a fold, because it's not a real 5!. The issue is the $50 missed straddle plus your call is dead money. The 3! is really the open, then the best player at the table (your words) raises, which can be any decent hand, then the BB can 4! with any decent hand. I would not fold given this action and the players involved, though I could fold (and have) folded KK pre in really weird pre-flop action. I'd likely call and get as much in on a non A flop. 6:00 just raise, if you are beat by BB have AA so be it, but calling commits you. You have a perfect stack size now to just shove. Honestly, this should be the end of the hand. 9:40 You have to call. You are at the top of range, and you are getting great odds. As a note, SB more likely does not have a pocket pair. Good players don't call off 1/4 of stack set mining. This is more likely a connected hand, and one not containing a AKQ, so JT and T9, based on action JsTs. You should have raised the flop and shoved the turn, though JsTs would still call you. That said, given the odds, you need to call the river, otherwise you are too easy to exploit.
@kennyvoller5419
@kennyvoller5419 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣 Bart " I think the turn is the most egregious" 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@aloha270999
@aloha270999 Жыл бұрын
When you make one mistake in a hand more usually follow. If you're scared to put all of it in why start with so much money.
@jackrackham9375
@jackrackham9375 Жыл бұрын
Please do not take anymore Euro Nits Calls thank you
@codyobaker
@codyobaker Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail reminded me of last night. Also this might be the simplest and yet worst played hand I've ever seen called in.
@GirthTickler
@GirthTickler Жыл бұрын
I really truly do not understand how any poker player doesn't get it in in this spot. I mean preflop, flop, and turn would have all been great spots to shove but he doesn't. The only explanation is not being properly bankrolled for this game.
@mothecat776
@mothecat776 Жыл бұрын
Bart. I'm hardly a 'good' player, BUT..... Either your caller is playing 'scared $money' or he is no position to call another player as the 'best'. Easy money is alive and well at ALL $LEVELS.
@Mr.ScaredyCat
@Mr.ScaredyCat Жыл бұрын
before you say it... *pause video* sb jams river i know that much by the title im guessing the only way you fold is if bb calls Wtf is bb ever have here? could he possibly play TT this way? 2k 5b lol i guess that means sb jams bb folds and then how does hero possibly fold... im lost now also agreed i prob just jam flop 9.5/10 times guess this is the 1/20 time edit- ithought a good player wouldve folded QQ with you behind especially after he slowed down on turn cuz he was smart enough to realize you could have KK/JJ easily you did call 50$ and then call 2k lol also as vids running i dont think AA slows down its only losing to JJ and that not enough combos not to jam turn with AA and wanna protect your AA (equity) like bart said think he easily has QQ here and should be folding river after you show interest maybe he thought you were wide lmao prob not you do look strong...idk fuck it i got QQ if i call fast enough this dude behind me will fold half the range that beats me?
@JLRRyan
@JLRRyan Жыл бұрын
You take this line with Kk to induce people going crazy and you snapping them off. Went according to plan (even though the strategy is flawed from the jump) except he folded his snap
@Fixundfertig1
@Fixundfertig1 Жыл бұрын
Is NIT Vertucci on the phone?
@zsn1gman
@zsn1gman Жыл бұрын
The pastor at my church the other day said the same thing....
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