Avoid This GIGANTIC Folding Blunder

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Күн бұрын

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@zekebones34
@zekebones34 2 жыл бұрын
This hand makes me feel so much better about my game, thanks for turning this into a video
@Keptionpoker
@Keptionpoker 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@DStern20
@DStern20 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is something that a lot of people will do. They set up a trap in a very raise happy game and then when a lot of raising happens, they will see the monsters under the bed. If you underrep your hand, you go with on a dry board.
@WillPage
@WillPage 2 жыл бұрын
I've done it. KK 4 bet, 3 callers (2 beast players) and it comes Q 7 3, c-bet 1/3 pot and get 2 calls, turn is a 6, and I decide to check for deception, it works and beast 1 pots it after it checks around to him, I flat, and a board pairing 6 or 7 (can't remember) on the river, see's him jam for 2 x pot and I tank fold. Claims later he bluffed me, I do believe it as he is that sort of player, and my deceptive turn check likely reaked of weakness to him.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 2 жыл бұрын
The paired board and check check I'd have to call the river.
@budthebud9108
@budthebud9108 2 жыл бұрын
Monsters start growling. Well you fucking tickled their chin by slow playing
@SoulfightPoker
@SoulfightPoker 2 жыл бұрын
if hero stuck with his initial plan of just call down, it actually would've won him the most money in this exact, insane spot lol
@WillPage
@WillPage 2 жыл бұрын
I know right, but instead he just gives away half his stack.
@hbkplayz
@hbkplayz 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how his plan was to trap and call down but then he doesn't call down. What is he doing?
@user-jt2bf6ym1o
@user-jt2bf6ym1o 2 жыл бұрын
With only a half pot bet left after the flop as well lol. And turn checked through. I don't get it
@Glastoki
@Glastoki 2 жыл бұрын
Check calling down for max value is much stronger than it used to be, usually in headsup pots though.
@jarirepo1172
@jarirepo1172 2 жыл бұрын
So, he calls with KK preflop because people are going nuts. Then people do go nuts and he gets a bit scared. Just pile it in preflop!
@jameswalker7420
@jameswalker7420 2 жыл бұрын
The preflop call here is such an incredibly awful play. If the game is nuts shove now for max value. If not then this is actually a fold. But a call in this spot pre? Has the hero ever played poker before? Having made that play, the flop is an obvious shove. After not shoving the flop, this hand becomes a joke not even worth discussing for any reason other than comedy.
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswalker7420 there are games/opponents where you make this call pre and never fold unless as ace come, sometimes you shove pre and sometimes you fold. This spot is rare so not something we have put any work into just have to trust your gut.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameswalker7420 It is comical 😂😂😂
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
What's worse is if you are staying in, you just have to go with it.
@jamesjones2675
@jamesjones2675 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. If someone isn’t prepared to play for stacks preflop with Kk’s, this person has no business playing this game.
@intrepidus3378
@intrepidus3378 2 жыл бұрын
If the caller has any awareness of the situation (
@bobbywhite1645
@bobbywhite1645 2 жыл бұрын
I love Barts reaction here. "UGHH NO OH GODD" 😆
@matthewdixon6252
@matthewdixon6252 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Nit, and I am not folding KK at any point. Shove it on the turn like I did in my $1/$2 game on Saturday.
@captzachevil
@captzachevil 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this fold may have taken years off my life.
@JaxonHaxon
@JaxonHaxon 2 жыл бұрын
Its not a 4 or 5 bet, the raise was blind or 'straddle' and once you factor that in, its so face-up obvious, calling the open a 3! is actually the biggest blunder of the hand because it throws every subsequent stage of hand-reading completely off the rails.
@sean3533
@sean3533 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it’s just third blind, they have 800bb otherwise, and vip wants to play for money. So given that, hero is basically limping utg with kings, hero lost this hand on the flop.
@madmanmidget
@madmanmidget 2 жыл бұрын
This! It's a cold 4! Not 5!...changes everything. Qq's 4! Makes sense there, and it's what I would do. Jam pre, but I guess if you want to be sneaky you can call and jam flop
@3betmore229
@3betmore229 2 жыл бұрын
Or if you want to be extra sneaky you can fold river
@mikehohenadel5563
@mikehohenadel5563 2 жыл бұрын
This guys breakdown makes me less scared to play higher stakes lol
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown 2 жыл бұрын
The caller thought about preflop completely wrong. A blind open is just a new effective blind like a straddle, you know it literally has nothing to do with his cards, and his cheeky flat is more of a limp that should be attacked. The bb raise is effectively a cold 4! and 100% what he should've done. The last thing he wants to do is price everyone in multiway.
@adamseidel9780
@adamseidel9780 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, that is where the hand went off the rails. And it’s a somewhat wide 4 bet too, because with the VIP and dead money, the button is often putting in the fake 3 bet with a very wide button open range. The SB is good enough to understand that and should 4 bet with a light 3 bet range, and so on into the BB. No tighter than a 4 bet range at tightest!
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, he was correct, but didn't follow through. He lost the maximum. 😂
@MatthewSpurr
@MatthewSpurr 2 жыл бұрын
I had a really similar hand to this KK one yesterday. I ended up all in 3 ways with my KK vs. QQ vs. QQ. It was $200NL and I shipped a $803 pot :-)
@TylerWx
@TylerWx 2 жыл бұрын
This almost feels like the caller just doesn't believe that he could win a pot like this so he's looking for any reason to fold.
@jack42011
@jack42011 2 жыл бұрын
it is a bit of a sketchy situation, but I did see all that pre flop action and someone thinking calls are bs and squeezing and then the others players thinking the previous ones are loose.... But yeah, all that pre flop action might throw me off with a huge stack like that
@joshuakennedy8094
@joshuakennedy8094 2 жыл бұрын
I always laugh at the players that like to sit super deep to try to seem imposing, but you can see visible discomfort in their face and body language anytime a pot starts to push the 150 -200 BB threshold. Bro, you have NINE HUNDRED BIG BLINDS BEHIND, and you're actively avoiding putting your money in every opportunity you get to make a relatively safe raise. You win this hand almost every time unless it's a stone cold cooler. You even have the luxury of having the bottom card paired on board. If you can't stand the heat, you should rack up and get out of the kitchen when you hit 300 BB. The small blind and the Big Blind came to play their money, and thats why caller lost the hand. This guy is clearly sitting deep, dreaming of a straight flush over quads pay day that will NEVER come.
@patrickclark7714
@patrickclark7714 Жыл бұрын
I had something similar happen playing recently. Only in the fact that I had a "plan" and then the "plan" was actually playing out exactly like I had "planned" it to, I completely nutted up and made a complete 180 from the "plan". Got stacked for it. The mental acuity of this game can not ever be overstated and hindsight is always 20/20. How often have any of us talked our selves out of or into a spot and been wrong? I have found that my initial instinct is usually right but I tend to overthink in certain spots.
@eklypzn
@eklypzn 2 жыл бұрын
He could have shoved 3 times, but he was just scared of the stakes. Almost sounds like he's playing too high.
@SweetDerek
@SweetDerek Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the sitch. Drop down in stakes if folding this hand.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
Either shove or fold pre!! But then, you just have to go with after the flop. Hard to play it worse...
@daveythehand4964
@daveythehand4964 2 жыл бұрын
I was laughing my ass off with Bart and saying at the exact time “SHOVE!” Lol
@Fixundfertig1
@Fixundfertig1 2 жыл бұрын
He's like Kyrie asking Ben to shoot xD
@notNaB2024
@notNaB2024 2 жыл бұрын
If this guy plays $5/$10 for $10K stacks, I have a chance.
@sensi2713
@sensi2713 2 жыл бұрын
Jam pre, jam turn, jam river.... crazy dynamic given the preflop action
@stt5v2002
@stt5v2002 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t say “he shouldn’t have queens here” when you are sitting there with kings that you are not supposed to have.
@pot_kivach160
@pot_kivach160 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂👍
@MaydayAggro
@MaydayAggro 2 жыл бұрын
Bart is so nice to people who make huge mistakes. 😄
@WolfishJew986
@WolfishJew986 2 жыл бұрын
I mean he won’t get people willing to talk to him about their mistakes if he’s mean/rude, so it makes sense.
@Glastoki
@Glastoki 2 жыл бұрын
@@WolfishJew986 Yeah but the way he hides his amusement and chagrin is worthy of an Oscar. What a poker face!
@paulpena5040
@paulpena5040 Жыл бұрын
Could you imagine if Stu Ungar was still alive and had a youtube channel? "You F'n idiot jam preflop or at least on the turn. You don't deserve to live. Do you have a gun at home? Spare the world any offspring." He once was a dealer for a period of time at a mob run club and he would actually berate people at showdown.
@bennyzhitomirsky2076
@bennyzhitomirsky2076 2 жыл бұрын
Bart: A river bet by J10 is not gonna get a fold from an overpair. Caller: Hold my beer. Also, I don't think that the 5-bet by QQ was out of line, if you think about the rest of the pre-flop action. the first bet was a blind bet by a VIP, so that obviously can be anything. Then there's a call by Hero, a Button 3-Bet with a ton of dead money, that can be a super wide squeeze bet, which incentivizes the SB to 4-bet relatively wide (Anything in the range of A5 suited AJ+ or 99+ can 4-bet there imo). In this case it seems like 5-betting with QQ is the right thing to do.
@garyl537
@garyl537 2 жыл бұрын
This one had me screaming at the screen. Just get it in on the flop or turn FFS!
@fireinfireout
@fireinfireout 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an easy preflop shove
@jarirepo1172
@jarirepo1172 2 жыл бұрын
He was expecting a lot of action preflop but did not shove, he did not get it in on the flop or on the turn. So many spots to get money in and win (preflop maybe not all of it but sigh). Why call preflop if you will still fold with those pot odds?
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 Жыл бұрын
The paired board was great as you see by the reveal and counterfeit. He gets max value calling the river. I'm a bit of a nit but if get there like that I call off in a crazy game with KK. I snap call...
@grahamplayscards
@grahamplayscards 2 жыл бұрын
Just shows the Aria 5/10 game isn't full of poker gods... plenty of bad play there too
@jimmyballs5662
@jimmyballs5662 2 жыл бұрын
Who ever told you it was
@pugsnhogz
@pugsnhogz 2 жыл бұрын
Bart's "oh no" at the end sounds like he just found out his dog got hit by a car lmao
@robertw8897
@robertw8897 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the caller assumes that everyone should play in an exact manner and that is why he let it go. He did not believe the guy could have QQ because of the way the betting preflop went. By his reasoning, that should also rule out JJ and 1010. He also ruled out that the guy had AA because he did not go all in preflop. So, the only hand he could put him on would be KK? He leveled himself on this one.
@AT-bw4cm
@AT-bw4cm 2 жыл бұрын
Hero thought the SB had a wide range because he was closing the action preflop. BB made the 5bet preflop so he should be capped to a very premium hand. He didn't think BB should be 5betting QQ but the 5bet was really a 4bet because UTG blind raised. He also said that there was infinite raising preflop so he misjudged BB 5betting QQ. Thus he thought SB could have JJ or 1010 and BB had AA.
@moaf2padventures757
@moaf2padventures757 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer a jam pf. my thinking is that theres so much dead money in there already that im fine if they all fold and also fine if they call and run it out. and aces are probably getting my stack anyway (unless perhaps i smooth call and one of remaining two aces flop, which ofc is a pretty big longshot) since we're not deep enough that i feel awful about getting it in pf here. having said that, i dont *totally* hate how hero played this pf and flop. i think stringing them along here is ok once in a while given how insanely dry the board is. i mean, i dont love it, and i certainly dont think its optimal, but i think its reasonable and you should probably have this tool in your toolbox. but come on man, on the turn you just have to jam it in. i mean you have a half pot sized bet left. if youre being trapped its too late anyway. what if a club or ace comes on the river and one of your opponents jams? youre going to want to throw up. this is the clearest shove ever. as played, i think the river is a clear call. we have DRASTICALLY underrepped our hand here and we're getting infinite odds. i get that with an overcall it looks pretty bad for us but you really dont have to squint too hard to see scenarios where we have the best hand bc of how passively we've played this. we only have to be good, what, like 20%?? basically the biggest mistake you can ever make in poker is to fold out a good amount of equity in a big pot. also, fwiw, i much prefer making this move pf with AA instead of KK. i get that we have to play the cards we're dealt and if you felt it was a great spot to slowplay pf then you just have to do it. just in general though. idk i guess ive just been bitten by the 'slowplay KK pf, not get my backraise in, 5 people to the flop and an ace comes' scenario too many times in my life lol.
@fireinfireout
@fireinfireout 2 жыл бұрын
It’s def a jam pre
@christianfay5845
@christianfay5845 2 жыл бұрын
Re. "THE extinction of VIP splashers" When poker first came to A.C. in the early 90s, Redd Fox used to play 15-30 LHE 3-4 times per year. His "strategy" (so to speak) was to call all bets blind until faced with a raise at which point he'd "play his best poker", which, BTW, was notably better than one might expect (though it was pretty bad) Retired NFL wide receiver Roy Green played his football career with the Cardinals and upon retiring was a not uncommon sight at the 75-150 stud game where the was a tad tougher than what he encountered on the gridiron. Great guy . . . Legendary tipper . . . Once started a hand with exactly three greens plus the ante. The waitress and the masseuse arrived just as the cards were dealt and he wound up having to play all-in for the ante because he couldn't call the bring-in - which I mention only because he didn't get a massage ! ($25 for his juice, $25 for the masseuse, and $25 for the dealer who'd just sat down) . . . Funny as fuck . . . Very well informed on many topics . . . No head for (or just didn't care about the outcome of) poker. Fun Fact: During a radio interview in the mid eighties he was asked to verify that he'd recently said Roy Green was the best receiver in the NFL, to which Madden responded, "Sorry, but whomever told you that was pulling your leg. What I said was that Roy Green is the best skill PLAYER in the NFL. There's not one position he couldn't play at least reasonably well if he had to - and yes, that includes QB. (Rumor has it he played most of a quarter at QB in college when the starter took a vicious blow to the head and the backup was getting his ankle x-rayed. His line: 6 for 9 passing, 1 TD, 0 INT, 29 yards rushing, 1 TD, laid the opponents MLB out flat on a sweep. In 2003, a friend of a friend tapped me out of my 15-30 stud/8 game, introduced herself, and asked me to play her chips while she ran an errand. In three hours I beat the other 5 like redheaded stepchildren but lost all but a few hundred of it to him. When she returned and I stood up he winked at me and said, "You my new favorite bumblebee" (in reference to my delivery of "pollen"). Then he called for the masseuse, sent her to my original game and told her to "keep that boy limber". In the early seventies Jerry Van Dyke (brother of Dick) was "headlining" in the lounge for $400 per week. FYI: Standard lounge pay was $10 per set if there was at least two patrons, which there often wasn't. He was so bad that brother Jerry not only paid his salary, but also hired shills to watch his sets. But this was a drop in the bucket compared to his losses at 10-20 stud. By the way, while Jerry was among the kindest humans on Earth (and apparently quite generous as well since Jerry's upkeep cost him ~ $5k per month) brother Jerry was as mean as snake shit. A female player in the game once told him that her husband's plane was several hours late and would he like to "take a break for an hour or two", to which he replied, "Honey, I grew up on a farm. If I wanted to fuck pigs I'd have never left home". OK, wasn't planning that to run quite that long, but if you made it this far, I guess I at least owe you all an answer to Bart's question: Why did huge and steady VIPs (who almost always dusted off a ton) become so uncommon. Two words: "No limit" Even Roy Green, who barely even tried, won at least once in awhile, and on really rare occasion he'd kill it. And as previously mentioned, once Redd Foxx took his blindfold off he was far from clueless. (I saw him drag a huge pot with a set of deuces in a pot that was capped 8 ways preflop, 6 ways on the flop, and 4 ways on the river. A K 2 is a sweet flop with AK, unless you (and the other two "slicks" were drawing dead. Meanwhile, stick a true blue fish in a NLH game and he loses RELIABLY (as in, always if he stays more than an hour or so) and QUICKLY.. Luv you all. Be well. 😁
@lifeiswonderful22
@lifeiswonderful22 2 жыл бұрын
As Bart said, treat the $50 like a blind. Then the SB has a standard 3bet range against btn open, which isn't that strong compared to KK. BB 4bet could be AA, but could also be 1010+ and AK. I just shove KK pre-flop here.
@ryanlisterman1864
@ryanlisterman1864 2 жыл бұрын
If you're going to fold your under-repped hand, don't ever under rep your hand
@dan22482
@dan22482 2 жыл бұрын
Classic example of why slow playing gets people into trouble. When you under rep your hand this immensely and are getting pot odds you just cannot fold. On the other hand it shows how you can effectively get worse hands to stack off because they won't ever put you on such a strong hand. Gotta click call though...
@sean3533
@sean3533 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbnails been on point this December 😂
@kavito96
@kavito96 2 жыл бұрын
I can only hope to get a guy like the hero on one of my tables :)
@GhengisKhak
@GhengisKhak 2 жыл бұрын
This hand can be parsed and reasoned through much more cleanly by treating it as a 4bet pot instead of a 5bet pot. UTG whale’s blind raise to $50 changes the dynamic of the hand dramatically, both in ranges and in stack depth. Seriously, folding QQ out of the BB seems like a mega punt if hands as weak as JTcc are still in SB’s range as the cold 3-bettor!
@rverges23
@rverges23 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like everyone is forgetting that this is a blind raise followed by late vs late vs late action. Because it is a blind bet to start I would look at the SB 4bet as a 3bet vs a BTN open and BB's raise with QQ makes a ton of sense. KK should definitely still feel decently good about his spot. That said if I were in his spot I probably just look at the action in front of me and be paralyzed by it too. haha
@noThankyou-g5c
@noThankyou-g5c 2 жыл бұрын
yeah i mean i think it comes down to the amount of money at play. It’s an easy call if the everything was divided by 10 but everybody is acting like they’d snap shove $5000 of their own money in a 3 way pot. In hindsight you know it’s absolutely the right play, especially when you know the result but most people are going to sweat betting a month or two’s income on one hand whatever the board is if you’re not nutted.
@rverges23
@rverges23 2 жыл бұрын
@@noThankyou-g5c You're a 1000% right. I guess for me I'm never sitting behind money I can't afford to lose. I assume these are normal stakes for the players involved. I think preflop could have been played differently/ better and the turn is a must jam.
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe 2 жыл бұрын
​@@noThankyou-g5c Then don't play 5/10 if making the right decision is too stressful.
@seanariamd9581
@seanariamd9581 2 жыл бұрын
i agree 100%. i think after the fact its easier to evaluate everything but in the moment i was just like wtf is happening lol
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 2 жыл бұрын
Well, either fold pre or jam...
@PokrRat777
@PokrRat777 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this is one of the most off the rails hands I've ever seen
@chazsmith20
@chazsmith20 Жыл бұрын
Let me see I get this right. You only have to be right on the river 20% of the time and you probably have 80% Equity on this board. I had to see my gastroenterologist after watching this.
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn 2 жыл бұрын
I guess even $5/$10 players sometimes have "scared money". 🤣🤣🤣
@craigerc713
@craigerc713 2 жыл бұрын
I realized playing poker for a while that I would rather lose all my money if someone has aces there instead of losing out on a massive pot because I folded the best hand.
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 2 жыл бұрын
Damn thats true
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 2 жыл бұрын
Could you ever fold QQ preflop
@craigerc713
@craigerc713 2 жыл бұрын
@@godwin0605 I have before ya.
@martinst-pierre6620
@martinst-pierre6620 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not really a five bet pot since the UTG open shouldn’t count as a raise. Sure there’s a decent amount of fireworks going on but they are coming from a late configuration.
@henryschumann442
@henryschumann442 2 жыл бұрын
If I heard correctly, the caller said if either player behind jammed he would just fold his call of the 5 bet. That’s just lighting money on fire. If folding in an option later in pre flop then don’t call the 5 bet to stay in preflop.
@chauncieextreme8514
@chauncieextreme8514 2 жыл бұрын
all of it. preflop….or turn, def river. perfect setups don’t happen often. (even when you misplay every street)
@mikeg3747
@mikeg3747 2 жыл бұрын
@Eugene it's so rare to play the whole hand wrong multi way, and still have max value to fall into your lap......just ridiculous
@TheDazeez
@TheDazeez 2 жыл бұрын
Most of these hands discussed I know exactly without a doubt what I would do in that situation… this one had me thinking because I’m a tight player. I would have to say after the flop someone AT LEAST has pocket ACES or pocket J’s and might have folded but based on the activity throughout the hand I would start thinking did someone play AK, AQ or AJ with all those raises? And if they did that could that mean they played pocket 2’s or pocket 4’s? Lol this hand would drive me nuts, although I do agree once they got to the river all the players were basically priced in and I would have had to call 🤷🏻‍♂️
@SovietWrath
@SovietWrath 2 жыл бұрын
I find it hard to believe the SB with J10 off called a 4 bet to 2050.
@daithi1966
@daithi1966 2 жыл бұрын
I love these hands that are basically --- How to misplay your hand on every street.
@chriszehren3856
@chriszehren3856 2 жыл бұрын
This guy butchered this hand in so many ways, and then is afraid of monsters under the bed. He just doesn’t want to put the money in, played ridiculously scared.
@Adam-gm9hf
@Adam-gm9hf 2 жыл бұрын
Once turn action checks to the hero, it’s so obvious that he is good. Hero even said he doesn’t consider this a real 5B cuz UTG blind raises. So with that said how can your reasoning for fold be that the BB 5 bet???
@AC-wl7ve
@AC-wl7ve 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. A dream board for him as well. What was he hoping for when he flatted kk
@EllieBanks333
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
I love the caller's voice. I hate every decision he made in this hand. Literally every one was the worst of the possible choices.
@EllieBanks333
@EllieBanks333 Жыл бұрын
Almost forgot, hero is saying this was 5 bet pre. I disagree. UTG just put in a blind bet. The BTN is the actual opener. SB 3 bet & BB 4 bet.
@WillPage
@WillPage 2 жыл бұрын
J-10 shoving representing top boat actually makes sense.
@cameronsmith9448
@cameronsmith9448 Жыл бұрын
Brutal stuff here
@recPokerFish
@recPokerFish 2 жыл бұрын
wow....that was an interesting way to play KK
@JBrandonMercer123
@JBrandonMercer123 2 жыл бұрын
Call off half your stack and fold to a river jam on a dry board with no ace. Bold move, Cotton!
@iambadatpickingusernames6669
@iambadatpickingusernames6669 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s not going to get a fold from an overpair, I wonder about that play from JT.” Hero: am I nothing to you.
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan 2 жыл бұрын
tbf to hero he would have called if BB folded (probably). It is interesting though because yeah, he has to be targeting BB having exactly QQ and folding with someone behind him and then hero having nothing (which seems impossible given hero called flop). Definitely an extremely ambitious bluff, at the same time if you say he is supposed to have some bluff shoves it is hard to find that many candidates that get here other than JXcc and JXhh. I can kind of get behind SB having no bluffs in this spot but then hero's fold actually makes sense which also seems clearly wrong.
@benlloyd9448
@benlloyd9448 2 жыл бұрын
I mean. He didn't get the fold though...
@notNaB2024
@notNaB2024 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the 2023 shirt? Sweet.
@bobbywhite1645
@bobbywhite1645 2 жыл бұрын
Got the Ace magnets and they didn't draw an Ace. Getting amazing odds to call. Strength of your hand is extremely well hidden because you play super passive. Oh well, better fold.
@patrick_kyker
@patrick_kyker 2 жыл бұрын
He questions Queens raise but yet he limps under the gun with King King.
@gbfreighttrain
@gbfreighttrain 2 жыл бұрын
HI Bart. Really enjoy your videos, I like the calm measured thoughts. Quick different question: I've been looking for a giant large mug just like the one you are drinking from. Can you tell me the brand or name or store it came from? Thanks
@WillPage
@WillPage 2 жыл бұрын
If you get in your head too much pre, I can understand it (sort of), but how you check the turn, I just don't get it.
@davemick1487
@davemick1487 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a case of playing with scared money. Preflop shove was the correct move.
@blazeron12
@blazeron12 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa new shirt alert.
@sean3533
@sean3533 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that UTG put his straddle out after the cards are dealt changes nothing. He’s still blind, he has any two cards, it’s still 2bb raise. On preflop, the BB is effectively putting in the 4! And yes KK is a 5 bet jam. Just should shoved it pre or raised instead of limping
@dylanrobbins1245
@dylanrobbins1245 2 жыл бұрын
also with the blind raise im never not 5! sticking it, AA can have my money
@lukerouhselang7054
@lukerouhselang7054 2 жыл бұрын
He’s trying so hard to get Bart to defend his play when he knows it was horrendous. He called 50 to induce action and then when action occurs he plays super scared lol how dumb
@WillPage
@WillPage 2 жыл бұрын
Bit harsh, yes he had to jam pre or turn, almost everyone would have, but to suggest the action wasn't pause-worthy? I don't even mind a fold, if you aren't sure (I have jammed KK into AA many times), but I think he genuinely wanted to hear what Bart thought, takes balls to ring in this hand. My concern, is was he trying to be too clever, some people study hard, practise, improve and really get too excited about making big laydowns.
@Its__Good
@Its__Good 2 жыл бұрын
Another day where I'm amazed that someone is willing to play at these stakes when they lack fundamental poker skills.
@EricA-xd9fn
@EricA-xd9fn 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously playing with "scared money". I'm never checking-through on that Turn...NEVER.
@fireinfireout
@fireinfireout 2 жыл бұрын
So true
@keithkelso9872
@keithkelso9872 2 жыл бұрын
Where are these games?
@diaryofacrankykid7270
@diaryofacrankykid7270 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind KK, can you imagine how this dude mis-plays the rest of his range? Yummy.
@thaThRONe
@thaThRONe 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't even made it to the flop yet. But with K's with all that pre flop action it's a 6 bet shove or fold. What flop do you want to see here other than a K.
@chad0x
@chad0x 2 жыл бұрын
owned yourself there. Shocking play.
@Melvinvanharn
@Melvinvanharn 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently we are calling 2k preflop to try and set mine with KK?
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 2 жыл бұрын
😆😆😆
@Fixundfertig1
@Fixundfertig1 2 жыл бұрын
Is NIT Vertucci on the phone?
@harrynamkoong3361
@harrynamkoong3361 2 жыл бұрын
If you are gonna fold KK at any point short of someone showing you JJ after the flop or showing AA preflop, why are you playing NLH???
@sgp9608
@sgp9608 2 жыл бұрын
You deserve a lot of credit for calling in. It's easy to be results-oriented but someone could have easily had AA JJ or TT in a 4-bet pot. It's not an easy spot to call here.
@pugsnhogz
@pugsnhogz 2 жыл бұрын
Define "easy"... what do you want, the other guys to turn over their cards? Nah man, issa call all day with this action and config
@maxpritsch287
@maxpritsch287 Жыл бұрын
Wow live poker is still well and alive
@tylerslenk8243
@tylerslenk8243 2 жыл бұрын
You have kings. Just put the money in
@dukeandking64
@dukeandking64 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t this fold caused by the fact they play 500 or 1000bb deep and they can’t handle that ? I say that with humility just bc in my 2/4 game with 500 in front of me, I would call and I may be scared with his stack….
@Stockhandle123
@Stockhandle123 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the first raise in blind so this is a 4 bet to you and a 5 best seems fine. If you want to make the call here you can’t fold unless an ace comes. Last folding here is also fine the only thing that’s bad is calling pre then folding on a board not containing an ace.
@ClementeDesigns
@ClementeDesigns Жыл бұрын
I‘m just thinking, with the dead money, btn has an easy open, sb (considering the fact you think he‘s the best player), recognises btn‘s raise, has a ton of 4-bet bluffs. So after bb and you overcalling, I think he would jam AA,KK, fold JJ. So he must call with suited connectors that can be good against top range. After all the checkes on turn, you must have the best hand… JT bluff on river seems so logical. I think sb folds JJ or TT pre, bur rather calls with equity hands like JTss.
@AC-wl7ve
@AC-wl7ve 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolute blunder
@soundbite4531
@soundbite4531 2 жыл бұрын
With the large preflop raises you cant slow play KK imo. If he jams pre then most of the time you will be heads up or collecting the pot. Cant let it go 3 way with that amount in the pot pre with KK. Was a good fold in the end though lol doubt I'd have made it lol
@SerErryk
@SerErryk 2 жыл бұрын
"Just shove it all in". That's what she said.
@SerErryk
@SerErryk 2 жыл бұрын
@Eugene Giggity.
@Glastoki
@Glastoki 2 жыл бұрын
Clear cut case of sniper syndrome along with a lack of considering that every play he made until the river was just a check or call and therefore his range was under repped.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 4 ай бұрын
Gotta jam flop
@mikemck4796
@mikemck4796 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like caller is scared of the money. Might need a smaller game.
@JLRRyan
@JLRRyan 2 жыл бұрын
You take this line with Kk to induce people going crazy and you snapping them off. Went according to plan (even though the strategy is flawed from the jump) except he folded his snap
@kennyvoller5419
@kennyvoller5419 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂🤣 Bart " I think the turn is the most egregious" 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@godwin0605
@godwin0605 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@matthewwestcott9138
@matthewwestcott9138 2 жыл бұрын
It's a 4 bet not a 5 bet effectively. A donk blind raised after missing a straddle. That's why QQ is 4 betting out of the BB. He knows button can open wide and the sb should 3 bet or fold. So a 4 bet is entirely appropriate. Sean knew this at the start of the hand but forgot by the end. For that reason I chose my eyes and call, if I haven't shoved flop/turn. That said, caller is a quality human and good player 🙂 🩵. Always a pleasure to hear you call in to the show Sean 👍
@hymnofashes
@hymnofashes 2 жыл бұрын
6-bet. Shove pre. Take your $3000. Every so often you have to get it in vs AA with 18% equity which sucks, but grow a pair. You don't limp so you can fold when the table loses its mind. That was your plan.
@dylanrobbins1245
@dylanrobbins1245 2 жыл бұрын
3:44 normal sized up, bart is 4'4"
@toddpolish
@toddpolish 2 жыл бұрын
“Walk that one off!”
@josephmerlina9397
@josephmerlina9397 Жыл бұрын
Play at the aria and stay there every trip to Vegas. I gotta find these players,, every time I’ve played 5/10 or bigger the players are never this bad .
@danielhurst8863
@danielhurst8863 2 жыл бұрын
Stopped 2:50. This is not a fold, because it's not a real 5!. The issue is the $50 missed straddle plus your call is dead money. The 3! is really the open, then the best player at the table (your words) raises, which can be any decent hand, then the BB can 4! with any decent hand. I would not fold given this action and the players involved, though I could fold (and have) folded KK pre in really weird pre-flop action. I'd likely call and get as much in on a non A flop. 6:00 just raise, if you are beat by BB have AA so be it, but calling commits you. You have a perfect stack size now to just shove. Honestly, this should be the end of the hand. 9:40 You have to call. You are at the top of range, and you are getting great odds. As a note, SB more likely does not have a pocket pair. Good players don't call off 1/4 of stack set mining. This is more likely a connected hand, and one not containing a AKQ, so JT and T9, based on action JsTs. You should have raised the flop and shoved the turn, though JsTs would still call you. That said, given the odds, you need to call the river, otherwise you are too easy to exploit.
@dasright1187
@dasright1187 2 жыл бұрын
Man easy jam pre given the action. If you run into AA then oh well. How do you not try and scoop the 3k pre. That’s a dream spot and he blunders every street 😂
@qwertz12345654321
@qwertz12345654321 2 жыл бұрын
It should be a preflop fold according to gto. Against super tight ranges (cold 4 and 5 bet) and having 2 players yet to act is terrible for even kings
@WillPage
@WillPage 2 жыл бұрын
Jam it!
@samcai6874
@samcai6874 2 жыл бұрын
I am shouting All in at PR FLOP TURN while watching, grh the caller choose the worse possible way to play KK. And I am mad when at the end when he complains about how the BB played his QQ, he probably should look at how he played his KK first
@MrStevie57
@MrStevie57 2 жыл бұрын
I was all in pre but I play micro's haha.
@Phobzi
@Phobzi 2 жыл бұрын
Put me in coach.
@zsn1gman
@zsn1gman 2 жыл бұрын
The pastor at my church the other day said the same thing....
@showandtellmusic
@showandtellmusic 2 жыл бұрын
What is this guy doing in this game?
@speakinfaxonly21
@speakinfaxonly21 2 жыл бұрын
No. He could not have tank called with AA on the river. You know why? Because AA doesn't have the opportunity to call a jam on the river as it's NEVER checking the turn. It's always jamming. He checked QQ for pot control given somebody could have KK here.
@kennyvoller5419
@kennyvoller5419 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣. Your so right... AA NEVER checks the turn..
@patrick_kyker
@patrick_kyker 2 жыл бұрын
Could have shoved pre, shoved on the flop or shoved on the turn but no.
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