Awakening The Mind with Sam Harris [S2 Ep.7]

[@BonzaiSG]

Hoodie Sam Harris is rarer than complete enlightenment!

[@trst361]

rarer than the "ultra rare tritium Pepe"

[@waedjradi]

Hoodie Harris meditates more than Sam Harris.

[@topdog5252]

Made me smile 🙃

[@bentobox6950]

I'm glad I am seeing more people like Coleman that are my age, I'm tired of seeing the woke activists and race hustlers from my generation.

[@alecchapin9071]

Are you 24?

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Say it loud! He speaks to me too and I'm nearly sixty.

[@mspoints4fre123]

It's sad that people like him are so uncommon these days. It's really going to be a huge uphill battle to stop this insanity.

[@billsimms2511]

I don’t worry about people my age as I’m in my late 30s and very few in my group are woke. We laugh at it basically but Coleman’s group is worrying. Then factor in the generation below him. I don’t see things ending well

[@SamuelHauptmannvanDam]

They have one thing in common. Overestimating skin color for character.

[@brittanym958]

Beautifully articulated Coleman, when you speak to how meditation helped you after your mom's death that pretty much paralleled my experienced after my mom's passing as well, meditation is such a gift! From dissociating in every day life to the Epiphany of realizing that resistance is the source of suffering, truly life-changing. I feel resistance is the source of all negativity in the world, I feel the battle right now is between those who accept reality (for it's light + dark) vs those who are resisting reality, and that collective resistance is the pain we see today.

[@SlamDunkerDonkey]

Ah finally, the Meeting of the Monotones

[@umwha]

It is true

[@whatitdu6368]

And here it seems genuine unlike Pangburn's weird attempt at wearing Sam's swagger like a creepy costume

[@jacoblawson8787]

Lex Fridman should have moderated

[@MissNatalonga]

@@jacoblawson8787 Hahaha!

[@DanceManAlex]

Underrated comment

[@johnhauber6458]

25... Coleman Hughes is 25... beyond the fact that he is stupefyingly intelligent, it's an absolute joy that he is likely to be around in the public sphere for so many decades to come.

[@galacticgaze137]

I been impressed by him ever since he was 22 when he entered into the public intellectual sphere.

[@alecchapin9071]

I just hope the Cia doesn't take him like they took Dr King.

[@jonathanwegner1194]

here ya go: alexsheremet.com/coleman-hughes-cannot-be-trusted/

[@mohamedgoldstein5565]

"The arsonist pretending to put out the fire" - its poetry!

[@jaliladalal6574]

Because I got used to Sam's voice during the guided meditation, I literally am relaxing whenever I hear him talk. For instance, I am now doing some work on my laptop and was about to pause the podcast when I felt like his voice is calming me. Thank you Sam.

[@MrCozzie28]

I was a binge drinker for 20 years. Im Scottish, drinkng is like a sport here. On the 10th of October 2019 I took 3 tabs of LSD while drunk. The most I had taken up to that point was 1 and a half. I have been teetotal since the 11th of October 2019. The experience was that good. If you won the lottery chances are you woud not play it again.

[@AbleAnderson]

Are you saying your experience with LSD was so great that you "retired" on a good note or something? For many people (especially addicts), having a great experience causes them to become preoccupied with the drug and obsessed with getting that great experience again as soon as possible and then as often as possible. How did you avoid this?

[@MrCozzie28]

@@AbleAnderson I had always wanted to try LSD but could never get my hands on it. With alcohol my hangovers were getting so bad that 1 night out meant 4/5 days of feeling awful. The risk reward ratio was way off but I would do it anyway. When I finally got my hands on LSD I would have a few beers before taking it, a bit of Dutch courage. But on October 10th 2019 I had been drinking all day and was as pissed as a fart before taking 1 then another 2 shortly after. My experience started with some audio hallucinations. I kept hearing someone say "how many did you take, Steven you need to tell me how many you took" I would see blue flashing lights over my shoulder but when I turned to look they were gone. Luckily I managed to get a grip of myself. I felt like I was on top of a mountain , I couldn't either jump off or carefully climb down. After that I managed to relax and just enjoy it. I wasn't myself for about 10 days after. That was when I decided enough was enough. I know what you mean about people always chasing the first buzz but for me the mountain was like Mount Everest. You can't go any higher and I got up and down safely so why risk it again. I also took up fitness as a replacement, I had always been pretty active but I now do between 6 and 8 hours of cycling and running every week. I'll set myself a goal say a 5K running time or 10 mile TT cycling time. The feeling you get when you make that goal is better than any feeling I've experienced on any drug plus no hangover/come down. I used to hoot with the owls all night now I sore with the eagles all day lol. If you are thinking about quitting yourself I sincerely wish you all the best. Its not easy but it's not impossible. You can do it.

[@firghteningtruth7173]

@@AbleAnderson because lsd isnt like that at all. Every trip is different. There are things that are similar between trips. But each one is its own. Usually after...you feel exhausted. Plus, you have to wait a couple weeks or double your dose the next day...and its not the same. Kinda like mdma, actually. But theres no burnout. Also, if you are insecure about something...it will shine a spotlight on it. There are no BAD trips. Only challenging ones. Ones that make you realize what youve been doing wont work. The "bad trip" is you not accepting that fact, and trying to push it away...and it boomeranging into your face 5 minutes later in the next wave. (Mushrooms and lsd have a phenomenon where you get a wave of lucidity, then a wave of the drug kind of taking over...its really hard to explain to someone who hasnt tried either) Hallucinogens are rarely addictive. There are people who DO overuse...but thats a psychological thing. There is 0 physical addiction. In fact, your body wants NOTHING to do with them for a while after. If you choose to go this route...please do it with SOMEONE YOU TRUST IMPLICITLY. Like, youd put your life in their hands. Make sure SOMEONE is sober...or at least not on hallucinogens. Start small. Try 1 hit. Give it a while. Like hours. Redosing after does nothing but reset the timer. Unless you ingest before or as you come up, adding more lengthens the trip. The amount you take in the beginning sets your intensity. For me...if you get LEGIT doses (pretty rare if you find it downtown or something) 2 is pretty good. But ive had quite a bit of experience. 3 starts to get....."wheeew!"...5 and above is ONLY IF YOU ARE CRAZY. I took 7 double doses (thats like...not quite 14 hits...more like 10-12. Doubles arent actually double usually, more like time n a half)...and I couldnt even really talk. The street turned into a rainbow and floated away...so that was cool...but uhhh, you gain nothing out of these doses usually. It can be fun...but also extremely disorienting and at times can be awful (depends on YOU). So, to recap: -not really addictive -each trip is different -dont do it if you are really struggling emotionally or if you are stressed out -for the first time do it around someone you trust -make sure at least someone is sober (at least for your first couple times) -have fun 😁

[@annagordon4169]

You guys make meditation seem so cool but when I actually try to do it all I can think of is all the random little itches I wanna scratch.

[@oak8891]

Noticing the itch is meditation

[@15walkingaway]

Try Sam's meditation app. I've used it since the start of the pandemic and it has made such a difference in my world.

[@annagordon4169]

@@15walkingaway I'm giving it a try! tbh I just can't shake the feeling that the whole thing is a placebo. But I'm trying to be more open-minded. Worst case scenario it just doesn't work for me, and that's fine.

[@eternalsence3033]

@@annagordon4169 meditation placebo? u cray

[@annagordon4169]

@@eternalsence3033 lol maybe. idk if placebo is the right word. Idk I just... I'm not sure if it is actually doing anything or if I just wanna believe it's doing something. Like I'm happy it works for other ppl but Idk if I'm convinced it actually makes your mind healthier and all that.

[@MrJT0110]

Not long now till JRE

[@warlordy]

The fact that Rogan hasn't invited Coleman, McWhorter or Loury since the George Floyd events is atrocious

[@StephenIC]

@@warlordy That is very surprising. You would think he'd be a big fan of those guys ideas, and that mutual friends (like Sam) would have turned him on to them.

[@riccardocecchi7914]

No way. Sam is mad at Joe because of his views on Covid.

[@johnbrown4568]

Rogan = Phony

[@billsimms2511]

@@warlordy does Rogan even know about them? I’m sure he’d have them in if they were introduced and could work it out I hate that Rogan doesn’t upload much to KZbin anymore

[@tejkumarGTK]

Have put off this video/channel from watching for many days/months but finally watched it now and I really liked it. Discussed important topics that I always wanted to ask. Thanks Coleman.

[@jukasipo]

@Coleman Hughes thank you for this episode, you cannot imagine how precious and meaningful this was for me

[@lawrenceaddison]

Coleman shedding light on the truth with a great mind Sam Harris

[@lknight5579]

That felt like a significant moment for me; I never understood what mindfulness was attempting to achieve. Some gems in there, for example that wandering thoughts are mediocre, not the hallmark of a thinker. This ties in with the harmful fallacy that clever people are prone to depression, which gives depression an undeserved cachet, particularly to the inexperienced teenagers for whom teenage depression is perceived as an unspoken 'badge of honour', but is actually a curse. I was also struck by the 'finding better motivations' idea, a lesson I had learned in some areas of my life but it strikes me the idea has a broader applicability than I'd given it credit for. This ties in with Jordan Peterson's point about embracing responsibilities. My final point is, here is another example of the content maker choosing to talk about what they wanted to, not what the polling data says to, and ultimately producing something much more worthwhile. I didn't know I needed to hear that until I actually had. Thank you to you both.

[@brycelupoli7340]

A thought that is pertinent to your lamentations about public perception of depression: I recently heard Gad Saad cite that depressives are the only group of people that see successful achievement as the product of environmental factors, while they see failure as the result of internal inadequacy. I would hypothesize that this characteristic of depressives is connected to the public perception of depressives as more clever in their social observations, because this characteristic makes them analyze the inadequacies of themselves and others with above normal rigor.

[@umwha]

I think depression, or any mental struggle is a sign of intelligence. Even the angsty teens become depressed because many of their illusions about the world have been shattered , that there is a lot wrong with themselves, society and their family. Compare this to an unintelligent teen who remains intellectually comfortable and protected. : who is not challenged and so never has to reflect critically.

[@lknight5579]

@@umwha I used to think the same, I suffered from depression, I did well at school, it made sense. However, I've met some very clever people over the years who are happy. Furthermore, when I read Feeling Good by David Burns (about CBT) I was persuaded that depression is not a logical response to the bumps in the road we all experience. It feels logical only because we hold on to the things that upset us, we endlessly play them over in our heads, these 'mediocre' and incomplete thoughts, until they've consumed a disproportionate amount of our consciousness, cheating us into feeling our depression is a logical response. Silencing that unhelpful inner voice is not the same as being unthinking. Or at least that's what I took Sam Harris to mean. High quality thinking happens separately from the incessant and disjointed internal monologue. If someone experienced in meditation disagrees with my interpretation of Sam Harris's remarks, I'd be interested to know.

[@wowser44]

I think Dr. Gabor Mate articulated our current toxic trend: “immature creatures influencing each other.”

[@opinionatedape5895]

Starts at 4:20

[@Atmanyatri]

This conversation helped me. Thank you

[@Deitz39]

Keep going Coleman! thank you!

[@brianjoyce9040]

Two of the most thought provoking thinkers. Thx guys

[@hustlehustlehustle]

When I see a conversation of Coleman Hughes and Sam Harris has been uploaded, I'm frolicking. I'm a simple man.

[@TerryStewart32]

I think they are like Lex Friedman and Eric Weinstein. They have great intellectual chemistry

[@hustlehustlehustle]

@@TerryStewart32 without taking away any of Coleman's brilliance, I see him as Sam's intellectual protégé in many ways.

[@oldnosoul4183]

Wish they were more reasonable on the topic of trump but yes.

[@hustlehustlehustle]

@@oldnosoul4183 imho they are mostly right about Trump and his character. But I don't think it was very productive of Sam having ranted on and on about it on numerous occasions. It also doesn't make Biden less shitty than he is.

[@oldnosoul4183]

@@hustlehustlehustle They are very reductionist when it come to trump. They said he was a "Maniac" and only cares for himself when that probably not even he obviously isn't psychotic. He can feel for others that's why people call him corrupt for putting his family is high positions. They also say trump supporters are cultists. On this topic they seem to make wild non factual claims and have poor reasoning compared to others, even friends say so.

[@the_eerie_files]

Fantastic, I already know I am going to enjoy this one! Thanks, Coleman.

[@rjvanetten3123]

Love the conversation and break from politics. Far more interesting things to talk about, although I know we can’t always stick our heads in the sand. Still, this was great.

[@whatitdu6368]

Hard to tell which is which!! This is the Spiderman meme. Jk. So glad to see you keep killing it Coleman

[@BookofJohn3V8]

The Spiderman pointing meme lmao

[@81Mace81]

@@BookofJohn3V8 OK you've just sent me down a meme rabbit hole Ashley😂

[@WillKarspeck]

Great conversation. Thanks

[@RachelLouren28]

Sam is one of my faves

[@sophieoshaughnessy9469]

Love Sam too. Logic meets compassion and equanimity.

[@Flippyfloppy007]

Thank you for not talking about those audience topics. My god am I sick of them

[@EvanJHagen]

Thanks for this! I’m always happy to hear people speak with Sam about what he’s actually most passionate about. I think not enough people are aware of Sam’s background in psychedelics and meditative practice.

[@nickbutler6842]

sweet sponsor, been looking for something like that for a while. Will definitely check out

[@trst361]

I've never read so many reply comments in a KZbin comment section. I've never read so many KZbin comments without the feelings of being triggered.

[@lewischampion3050]

Ever notice how their tone, cadence and linguistics mirror each other exactly.

[@CarnifaxMachine]

I kind of think Coleman subconsciously picked that up from Sam over time.

[@lewischampion3050]

@@CarnifaxMachine Agree, I would say it’s too safe but actually I forget Sam’s deadpan delivery has oftentimes been so dry historically, that anyone should aspire towards irony for witticism, which is so funny; if Coleman can keep a straight face that is. Cheers dude

[@wowser44]

That’s exactly what was on my head 👍🏼

[@woundedchildstory3172]

My meditation practice is listening to Coleman talk.

[@gasparm.2711]

The background with low lights looks great. Love it.

[@EmWarEl]

I think that when discussing the benefits of using drugs for self-knowledge and understanding, it is critically important to caution younger viewers about addiction. Some people will try drugs and be swallowed whole by addiction, due to factors which may be beyond their ability to exercise control over.

[@billsimms2511]

Great point. MDMA is a very powerful compound but can be easily ‘abused’.. while I wouldn’t worry about addiction to it, it can produce some very nasty rebound depression and anhedonia even with Mild use

[@rhetleonard2968]

@Mike Worrell thank you for a very important comment. The awareness needed while self medicating is poorly understood, especially by young people searching for meaning in a confusing existence. The line between recreation and constructive mind expansion is easily blurred and can become a potentially meaningful lifetime squandered.

[@firghteningtruth7173]

@@billsimms2511 I would DEFINITELY worry about addiction to it. As someone who did it too much for a while... Not nearly as bad as others around me. If you take that shit every other day for a month, its not just bad, it could ruin your seratonin levels for a VERY long time. Some people never recover. Yes. Mdma can be quite addictive. Lsd, mushrooms, not so much. I mean there ARE eraserheads. But they are not nearly as common. Reason being...the next day after mdma you feel garbage. For a few days. But you can just take another and feel "better-ish". Lots of people get stuck in that downward spiral.

[@Ken_Churchill]

The meditation practice that evokes the master within, the inner voice of consciousness and so much more is known by Indian Gurus as Divine Knowledge. It is an ancient practice that separates ones emotional self with a source of wisdom from within and being a master of your dark side.

[@kevinlang9792]

Wonderful to know the intellectual bourgeoisie have no down side for their drug use and no consequences for their inebriation; all enlightenment all the time. I’ll meditate on that back down here on earth.

[@SSSyndrome214]

Thank you both for that wonderful discussion.

[@tobynsaunders]

I feel like that description of non-dualistic versus dualistic mindfulness may have just changed my life.

[@atadata6870]

Science fact : Listen to a discussion between Coleman and Harris for 90 minutes and then take an IQ test and you will score higher than normal.

[@1pointt21gW]

best comment

[@MrCmon113]

Wonder what you think IQ tests are.

[@MorphingReality]

Hope you don't mind me using a clip from here for a music video type thing, the bit has been uploaded elsewhere with creative commons already

[@joeldupuis4182]

Coleman your questions and intuition about reframing are powerful. Dr. David Burns has developed a psychotherapy technique called TEAM therapy and TEAM is away to reframe cognitive distortions. He also have an incredible podcast where he does therapy session live with other therapist struggling with issues to help emphasize the power of TEAM.

[@eastwood451]

Rarer than a fist-sized diamond is having two podcasters with the exact same speech pattern in conversation

[@sasak548]

Thanks Coleman, you are amazing! 💛

[@geoppetto_hosseltoff]

MDMA was never about high-fives for me. That being said, holy shit was it ever a blast to dance care free for hours to some of the world's top DJs.

[@billsimms2511]

MDMA and Ghb were both great party drugs! The increased empathy and openness was amazing

[@theonewhocooks]

The world’s best record player players 😉

[@billsimms2511]

Great conversation. Goes pretty deep. Lol at Coleman’s happiness lasting 7 minutes . Putting money in the bank made me happier for longer than that but not that much longer. I distinctly remember realizing that no amount of money or toys would make me happy. Life is strange

[@1993HBh]

Great content, thank you Coleman for the uploads!

[@brek5]

Funny to hear Sam talking about the kind of fame you should want. My college roommate's mom had that. She was famous in her field, so she could call and get put up in hotels anywhere in the world, flights, money, etc., and she was a rockstar in her academic field, but outside of those couple hundred people (maybe a bit more with postdocs and such that knew who she was), nobody would know her at all. I always thought that was the best.

[@plimithsock]

This is how you arm yourself against the death sentence that is the victimhood mentality. I'm 24 years old, mixed race. Don't worry you aren't fighting alone .

[@ExcitingBob]

Very telling that Sam doesn't have a couple of his own books strategically propped up in the background, like a couple of other people we could name. He is simply not that kind of person.

[@jonathanwegner1194]

here ya go: alexsheremet.com/coleman-hughes-cannot-be-trusted/

[@JockoJonson17]

Ground news app looks awesome. 👍

[@GlassMeadow]

Great conversation.

[@danielbrooks7764]

Very weird request, but can you post a clip of the ad for the news app as it's own video? I'd like to share just it. Very few of my friends will clip on a 90 minute video, but I'd like to share the ad; it was well done.

[@revenzo3]

This is one of the best conversations I have ever heard. Coleman, fellow CU student here, you have a lot of potential.

[@TerryStewart32]

Coleman Hughes could really be a generational thinker. I hope he returns to academia and go for a PhD to cement his research into a publishing thesis

[@detangling]

"Keep going. You give me hope" Sam Harris to Coleman H.

[@mrborisak]

Keep up the good work Coleman

[@TheHangedMan]

You can think that Harris is overselling the badness of Trump and still respect his position and him as an intellectual. Come on guys. Thankfully, Trump is out of the White House. I hope Harris, and others, can soon turn their sights on the "woke" post-modern authoritarians in full. We can disagree about which was worse for America when Trump was in power... but now that he's out, it's clear where our priorities should lie.

[@TruthSubjective]

Video starts at 4:01 Past Trump part 11:27

[@shader5410]

Sam is one of the most valuable persons on earth.

[@harrymcmahon6982]

I would quite happily listen to a podcast which featured conversations only between these two

[@garethevans3600]

I do some fairly intense sports - for my age and skill level anyway. Maybe I need to actually take note during my sport, but my overall memory is intense concentration and an overall feeling of contentment and happiness during these periods - that is what sticks with me. While the immediate effect is diluted by time, the effect does remain in my memory and I do look back on these times as good memories. Part of this is likely the effect of having to block out all but the moment or get pretty hurt so it focuses my thought on what I am doing at the moment and forces me to block all other thoughts that may have been upsetting or distracting. I guess a form of meditation.

[@alecchapin9071]

Skiing and mtn biking have tht affect on me. Lots, but very little to focus on.

[@CoryBleichner]

If I do see Jim Carrey in public I'm definitely going to say, "Hey Truman".

[@robdurant2033]

This is what the 1.25 x speed adjustment dial is for. Only (partly) joking - love and thanks for the wisdom here

[@charliewalker9443]

Sam is my favourite intellectual personality in the world. Second to no one and I am in full agreement with nearly everything he says. So don’t take my critique as being a hater from the other side. But with respect to “Single issue voting” I find Sam to be forgetting himself here. After all, Sam has, for months if not a couple of years at this point, been advocating voting for whoever was in opposition to Trump, just to get Trump out of office. Which is to say, in Sams mind, at least from what I have listened to, which is every podcast, he has been voting solely on the single issue of “Trump” I have even seen people, from their own mouths, state how they would not care if Joe Biden had molested kids, harassed women or any other incriminating incidents because “Anything is better than Trump”. This is so absurd to me. We could literally bring in the next Stalin all because of an attitude like this. Totally respect Sams position, though, on how with Trump gone it may be easier to focus on the matters troubling us from the left since the noise of Trump is gone. But again, i have two gripes here. 1) Most, if not all, of the criticism of Trump has come by way of his character. That he essentially just makes noise, lies and tweets too much. I have yet to come by any real, absurdly bad policy he and his team implemented, that has been condemned worldwide by both sides. That’s not to say I would agree on such policies or that there aren’t awful policies, but no one is pointing to the one thing Trump has implemented that is absolutely “game over” for him. I just think it’s true that the media has played the biggest part in the downfall of diplomacy between the two sides of the isle and Trump was the catalyst. 2) It may not be easier to focus on those issues if the issues are being pre-determined as “non-issues” by the state. Anyone calling it an “Issue” is now “THE ISSUE”. People could respond to this with Covid death numbers, the mob of the capital, kids in cages, so on and so forth. But each one of these cases can be vehemently countered and argued against. So this is not interesting to me.

[@kilikdudley]

So well said. Sam isn’t my favorite intellectual personality, but I usually listen to his stuff. You’re spot on here. It has always appeared to me that the left created Trump more so than the right. And continued to embolden it by being so opposed. Demonization is worship. Current left extremism will only create another counter response. Chicken and the egg.

[@charliewalker9443]

@@kilikdudley Thanks brother. ✌️

[@JDela10]

I'm not American but have a lot American friends and I have been saying similar on Trump since 2017. I was never a fan of his for a whole bunch of reasons I dont need to get into, but they talked about him like he was the Antichrist sent to Earth. He was the new mussolini, the great fascist who was destroying American democracy and freedom. Yet, I couldn't find any of his policies to come up to that standard. In fact, things like appointing Gorsuch to the supreme court were not at all in line with a fascist. Why would a fascist appoint noted critics of executive overreach? Its also notable that Trump filled three seats, but didnt try to add seats to the court to fill. The latter would be the fascistic move, to add seats to install loyalists to shift the balance of the court in the favor of the party that controls the executive. Yet, that's what a lot of democrats want to do and ive even seen media figures suggest it is the same thing as filling a vacant seat, when it clearly isnt. Even on the issue of the Capitol riot, which I do hold Trump partly responsible for given his rhetoric on the day and before it, it seems that with every week that passes by the narrative of the meticulously organized attempted coup with "help" from within is eroding away and it looks more like a bog standard riot. What happened to the attempted coup planned out on Parler with the help of republicans and Capitol police essentially under the direction of the White House? It looks like it was total bullshit. Now we know that the "kids in cages" is not just continuing it has ramped up and has morphed into being "compassion". Its incredible to me. Same policy, different president, totally different treatment.

[@charliewalker9443]

@@JDela10 Thanks for the comment, I agree on most of what you said. Standards have actually dropped since Biden has assumed office with regards to critiquing a president. I hate to admit it but the more Of this type of behaviour I see being demonstrated, the more I reason with and understand Trump.

[@charliewalker9443]

@@cardthrow18 Thanks. I’ll be honest, my answer is somewhat a cop out, as I am still not sure how to properly assess Trumps, or any other foreign leaders, handling of Covid until we are passed covid. There is no question that he could have done better at the very base level of talking about the virus with some form of respect to the severity of its potential. But, likewise, the USA was always going to come out of it worse off than every other country purely based on accessibility to the country and ability to travel. After all the FAA in the USA deals with 45,000 flights daily. Compared to the likes of, say, a New Zealand (Modern westernised wealthy country) which only has about 700 flights total daily. Not to mention in passenger numbers, 889 million People fly, within/into or out of the USA and 436 million people fly, within/into or out, each of china each year. Compare this to, say, Mexico with 65 million or even Japan at 125 million. The mathematics are just so heavily skewed against the USA that the only real place for infection to spread like wildfire is the countries with the wealth and accessibility to spread it. And the USA are 10x that of most other countries. I blame Bush, Obama and Trump equally for not heading the words of experts that have, for years, been saying that we need to have proper infrastructure available to handle a pandemic to come in the future. All of the leaders failed to believe one will come during their tenure and refused to prepare. Had they swallowed their pride and spent a few billion to insure themselves against such a threat, we would likely not see the Trillions of dollars of debt that is going to be placed on the head of every American. Equally though, any leader, even Trump, listens to what the experts say and even the experts are/were playing with hypothetical models subject to change, with regards to covid spread. They made decisions based on the information they had then and not the information we have now. Hindsight is always 20/20. You could have had a Democratic government at the time and nothing would have changed because the experts remain the exact same people. There are no high end universities locking themselves away as an “Exclusive source of information to Democrats only”. No. The experts Biden talks to now are the same experts Trump spoke to. We know the democrats were, initially, more in favour of international and domestic travel merely not to look “prejudice”. You only had to look at the terrible “Hug an Asian Day” that took place in Italy in response to Trumps flight ban, because they wanted to be seen as inclusive to Asians despite knowing the risks of transmission already. I think the time to Scathe and bash Trump will be in a few years when the fog of his term has lifted. Apologies for the long, disconnected response. Im tired 😅

[@iamravnfit]

While I can understand how anxiety and excitement may illicit a similar physiological response, it’s not clear to me that they are in fact the same thing. This is often misinterpreted in the flight or fight response of our sympathetic nervous system - how can flight and fight be the same thing, when one response runs away from the bear while the other response runs towards it. Anxiety seems more along the lines of a flight response i,e. “I desperately want to escape the scenario I’m in”. While excitement mirrors more of a fight response i,e. “I can’t wait to engage in the approaching scenario”. I would love to hear your thoughts on this particular conceptualization of anxiety, excitement, and the mindset of intention. Mahalo!

[@gregtrainor1577]

A strange coincidence that the topic Coleman wants to discuss just happens to be what Sam is most interested in talking about these days.

[@LeafsLoyals]

Love your intro music

[@wayneteacher]

it's so creepy. they both seem to be on the spectrum at the same spot and they both talk exactly the same.

[@TejanoTigre]

they definitely don't seem to be on the spectrum

[@alecchapin9071]

Definitely on the human spectrum..

[@justanotherytaccount1968]

I’d love to hear more on delineating between duel and non-duel awareness, it’s sometimes hard to tell the difference experientially

[@david_6063]

A sense of an enlarged space within, a deeper perspective which comes with increased awareness, is very reminiscent of what we get from Eckhart Tolle in his books like The Power of Now and a New Earth. This focused awareness can "be tuned" to states of peace, gratitude and wellness using whatever framework of thinking creates a bridge to those feelings or states. For me that framework would be an understanding of the immanence of God in my consciousness. Work, for people who love what they do, can be a similar framework or path. This is also one of my paths, and answers Coleman's question about how work can provide meaning. Prayerful meditation and work are both examples of moving toward the higher self. Equally important is opening to the dark side within. This path gets a lot less attention in the culture of mindfulness, and is called the shadow side in Jungian psychology. In his opening remarks, Coleman said that MDMA gave him the experience of fully loving and accepting all the parts of himself. This is the goal of Jungian therapy, to know the shadow within, which in addition to holding qualities that we have been taught to disown, also contains much of our power, creativity and energy.

[@stephenbyrneireland]

Fantastic conversation. Keep em coming.

[@glimmrgirl]

In order not to go insane I started mindful meditation a year ago. I found it refreshing and energizing to be able to switch off the never ending chatter in my head. Or notice it come and go, while standing on the river bank. Now Sam Harris tells me there’s no freaking river bank?! WTF??? My consciousness is having a hissy fit! 😑

[@whitb62]

The cringe is unbearable...

[@glimmrgirl]

@@whitb62 what do you mean?

[@MrCmon113]

In this analogy there is a river bank, but you are the river bank.

[@JT8njr]

e·quan·i·mous /əˈkwänəməs/ calm and composed.

[@colirino]

It's a bummer hearing this was recorded 5 months ago. Podcadts like this should be up to date.

[@ColemanHughesOfficial]

This episode was recorded in January this year. The Ad for Ground News was recorded last November (Admin)

[@DanceManAlex]

I just want Sam to say Dave Rubin when he talks about single issue thinkers haha.

[@ancientfuture9690]

😂😂😂

[@Arjun-eb1yc]

ya it would be better if he did. Cause people in the IDW don't exactly have the same views, apart from their opposition to wokeness / critical race theory. And some in the IDW are far less political and some far more.

[@RedWolfVids]

Great podcast

[@andrewbaumann2661]

After this interview Coleman and Sam took MDMA together at a rave and danced until 7am the next morning.

[@teardropsonmyfallen]

It's like peter parker making the way for a young miles morales

[@raymeester7883]

As long as Miles doesn't get Trump Derangement Syndrome as well.

[@kustomkure]

lovely analogy :)

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

*AV Question For AV People:* I have a crappy old laptop with crappy sound. Many things on YT are hard to hear on it unless it's absolutely quiet in my room. But I never need to turn up Coleman's videos to full blast in order to hear them. *Would this be something Coleman/his engineers have done differently from what other channels do?*

[@kdnick8584]

Try headphones

[@miyojewoltsnasonth2159]

@@kdnick8584 Thank you for your suggestion, but I'm not really interested in wearing headphones. If you are an AV person, do you know why most videos uploaded to KZbin are not very loud, yet the _Coleman Hughes_ videos are different than most and are perfectly loud without the need for headphones?

[@WhidbeyMP]

As for the political issues, it’s true that basically half the country voted for Trump. But I don’t feel it’s necessarily accurate to call them all Trump supporters. (Or Biden supporters on the left). Or one issue voters. Some are, but my guess is that most people believe certain things are most important, and they vote according to that. Often it seems like the ‘lesser of two evils’... This year I sat down with my ballot and looked up every person on there and took my time to get to ‘know’ each one a bit. If they had websites, who supported them, etc. Even their personal social media pages for some, not to dig up dirt, but to see and understand the person better. I also took time to listen to varying views through podcasts and through it all found that I resonated more with certain people on certain issues. That helped me to vote with more confidence, and my ballot was not all red or blue, but I realized through the process I tend to lean right of center. I think it’s lot more than just being annoyed with woke ideology or hating Trump. Both sides see the pervasiveness of group think on the other side, and how that can be dangerous, and has been. The pointing of the fingers, the need to control/influence others’ thoughts, words, actions for political gain or power and the resulting chaos has been concerning to me.

[@johnsykes3970]

Eh... a lot of people (and I mean A LOT) are absolutely one-issue voters. I see this shit all the time, with people I’m friends with on Facebook, for example. “Oh, okay, Trump is anti-PC? He’s got my support!” Forget about the fact that the dude is a life-long con-man who’s known for not paying people who work for him, or that he lies every other sentence, or that he legitimately doesn’t know anything about actual POLICY. Forget about the fact that he literally thinks that climate change is a hoax created by the Chinese. He triggers the libs... what’s more important than THAT? 🤦‍♂️ Trust me, I’m as an anti-PC as it gets, and the lack of nuance on the left regarding the issue of race annoys the fuck out of me (I’m on the left, for the record). With that being said, though, I acknowledge that there are other issues facing this country besides wokeness... much bigger, more SERIOUS issues. Our unbelievably shitty, corrupt healthcare system, the amount of people who are just barely getting by, financially speaking... just to name a few.

[@roxee57]

I’m reminded of the song title: There’s a fine line between pleasure and pain.

[@oliverfarrant3718]

4:01 starts

[@1979ce]

The money may not have made you happy in the moment for very long but I'm sure it gave you moments of happiness many times after that.

[@LLlap]

The opposite is true of children.

[@kenhiett5266]

Once again, Sam falls short in his objective assessment of the Trump phenomenon. MSNBC and CNN perfected the caricaturistic conclusions and Sam's perspective is nearly an identical rendition of that claptrap.

[@sheriffbigdog9671]

Sam admitted to falling for the corporate press smears against Charles Murray. That would be a little more forgivable if Sam wasn't the subject of those same malicious actors and then somehow didn't detect that he wasn't the only one this happened to. Yet Sam still allows the same liars in the corporate press to lead him by the nose, to care about inane bullshit, to parrot them on everything except racial wokeness. Sam liked and retweeted stuff from Daniel Dale and the Lincoln Project. Just totally embarrassing stuff.

[@RobRandolph80]

Non-dual meditation is also called mystic experience, fyi. Once you get to the universal ground of phenomena, and cease identifying as anything besides the ground of phenomena, that's it.

[@Maytag99]

Really great talk, and let me say that I am one of the Coleman supports who agrees with Harris 100% on Trump. "TDS" really is just a propaganda to try to dismiss criticisms of Trump; you'll notice they never would use a similar term like Hillary Derrangement Syndrome or Obama Derrangement Syndrome. It's just a term to childishly deflect criticism, or pretend it's not valid.

[@nothxgg8324]

You're right, those terms were never used. What liberals did say was: criticism of Hillary = sexism criticism of Obama = racism all policy disagreements from Republicans = white supremacy Trump = worse than Mao, Stalin and Hitler combined Trump = existential threat to democracy Trump supporters = Nazis (75+ million people) Trump = secret agent of Putin ... It's the pinnacle of comedy to see the unhinged, emotionally handicapped liberal left quickly duck into the changing room and take off their outfits of hair-on-fire hysteria and put on the attire of refined, even-handed and nuanced political observers. And proceeding to engage in revisionist history after a four-year saga of documented, unprecedented, unhinged, anti-Trump rage and lunacy was on full, spectacular display; from the Democratic party leadership, to the Media and Hollywood, to the Twitter warriors and University academics, along with their energetic and politically-active philosopher-kings-in-training. Utterly, shamelessly preposterous and laughably absurd. But, by all means, keep telling yourself that. You've finally succeeded in rescuing Democracy from the jaws of tyranny and delivered to us Unifying Man of Science Joe Biden. To you, we truly owe a debt of gratitude. Gǎn xiè!

[@Maytag99]

@@nothxgg8324 I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, but you have to be able to call out the bullshit on both sides.

[@cmiller7299]

@@nothxgg8324 Ah yes, because everyone who criticizes Trump can be grouped in with the entire left into one big monolith *eyeroll*

[@amorfati4927]

@Brion Foulke I respectfully disagree. Something like TDS is not propaganda (I mean for some sure it is) to deflect. Personally (I’m an independent), I use TDS to describe why the most base level things like that an “intellectual” can’t discern or acts willfully ignorant to 15 second to research verifiable falsehoods like “fine people on both sides” “officer got beat to death with a fire extinguisher” and so on and so forth. Nothing more or nothing less for my use of it myself. It’s the only explanation I can seem to give when people who tend to be nuanced and well researched in most all things before they speak miss the most base level when it comes to Trump. The poster below you was correct about some of that. Criticism of Obama and Hillary (some justified and some not) were usually met with “racist” or “sexist” charges instead. In the end, though, yes everyone is too politicized and it’s a big problem (though, in real life [not the internet] I tend to not see “the right” bringing up their political beliefs or enforce them and “the left” often bringing up their political beliefs and enforcing them on people, though that’s just an observation based on my life and where I live).

[@Maytag99]

@@amorfati4927 Well I mean, IMO there's also a lack of naunce in things like labeling the "fine people on both sides" thing a "falsehood." It's putting it mildly to say that we tend to lack nuance when playing team politics, right? Personally I felt that some of the attacks on Hillary and Obama bordered on the kind of derrangement you describe as well. But the thing that's more bothersome about a term like "TDS" is the implicit assumption that Trump is somehow normal and just like every other politician. There's a sort of Emperor's New Clothes thing going on with Trump and his followers. You shouldn't find it weird if I point out that Trump is one of the most polarizing figures to ever be in politics, right? If you agree with that, then you ought to see the flaw in using a term like "derrangement syndrome," which pretends all of the abnormalty is on the part of the people who don't like him.

[@captaincadabra]

Is it just me or do Coleman and Sam have like the exact same speech pattern 😂

[@wynandbecker8489]

lol Coleman: let's NOT talk about trump, Sam Harris:

[@prybarknives]

*listening to Sam say most people can't just listen to a talk, even for a minute, without thinking about things (After a minute) *Ha! I'm doing it right now, I'm.... crap.

[@evankolpack]

I often refer to Coleman Hughes as Black Sam Harris, and Sam Harris as Jewish Coleman Hughes.

[@Middleway101]

Coleman do you happen to be familiar with Alan Watts? I have the slightest impression that both you and Sam are aware of him.

[@drygulch1000]

Sam suffers a unique fame in that he is more likely to be mistaken for Ben Stiller than he is to be recognized for the great work he does.

[@correacomedy]

Sam's room looks like he stopped mid "murder scene clean up" to record a podcast.

[@katrinejensen6658]

What is happen with light it looks awsome, but how does it do that

[@rotoninja]

Was there a promo code for this app?

[@kalig.4982]

From a evolutionary view..what the benefit of this "spell" , the voice in our head? J.Peterson suggested its a place of learning, trying, experiment.. like a gynast trying the different possibilities before actualize one of them.

[@wowser44]

Reading this made me think about an old quote I read somewhere: “Just because you read books about gymnastics doesn’t make you a gymnast.” Hehe

[@ladyj3173]

Im way more interested in sam addressing the idw members who arent Trump fans who think sam has gone off the rails a bit like Bret Weinstein and Majiid Nawaz. Its not a binary of Trump supporters vs extreme anti Trump voters like Sam. Theres also alot of Bernie and libertarian voters like myself who think sam lost all objectivity. Or believe his elite status has impacted his ability to understand working class people (of multiple racial demographics btw) and why they might vote for Trump. Additionally I also think his view on drug use is influenced by his elite status. These people always fail to address the rampant issues of drug abuse and lack of life changing perspectives that working class and middle class people experience with even psychedelics.

[@cmiller7299]

Bret Weinstein has been off the rails for a while. It can take a while of listening to him to discover it, but he has become a pseudo-intellectual convinced that his own thought experiments are rigorous scientific analysis. He's educated enough to appear informed to the laymen, but top researchers and scientists end up at R1 universities, not liberal arts teaching colleges like Evergreen; he's no Pinker, Dawkins, etc.. Majid would be more interesting, but you mischaracterize Harris if you think he isn't aware of the more nuanced reasons people voted for Trump. I do agree with you that Sam's view, access to, and experiences with illegal drugs is different than most those of working and middle class, but attributing that to "elite status" sounds like convenient political language. He's always warned against their laissez-faire use for recreation.

[@ladyj3173]

@@cmiller7299 I love your analysis but I think the elite status to me is just an easier way of describing a group of acutely successesful people who dont have the burden of say housework or getting up early or exposure to poverty and addiction, and have time to take drugs and later philosophize over the enlightening and mind benefiting experience comfortably in their posh homes. They dont have contact with people who use the same drugs and then continue in their same negative behavior in many cases and don't become ghandi or what have you. In addition do you think its possible pseudo intellectual is tossed around too often in a lazy manner? Is brets education not sufficient as a scientist or is it just outdated and stretched beyond its limits?

[@amorfati4927]

@@ladyj3173 I think you’re right on with most of what you say. Im not the a big Bret fan but I agree that pseudo intellectual is thrown around too much. Of course, I think intellectual is thrown around too much and people put too much faith in people who most of which are one step above celebrities and actors. It seems like everyone is labeled a intellectual or pseudo-intellectual that isn’t a working class citizen. I work in construction and honestly some of the smartest people I have ever met are construction workers all the way down to the stereotype immigrant that has 10 of them cram into a Ford Focus. Their understanding of physics, logistic and such in real time is unmatched by any intellectual that I’ve seen but they don’t understand (most don’t but some actual do) that it’s exactly what they’re doing because they don’t context it as an intellectual, they just do it. I agree whole heartedly on the drug part. The drug crisis in the US (and honestly around the world probably though I still put that on a individual problem first) is massive. Most covert agencies uses substances as part of their tactics to control a population. “Elites” be over here talking about their guided trips in the comfort of their own homes or on “resorts.” Very disconnected.

[@youtubecentral1157]

49:35 re: bank account - so true

[@endoalley680]

John Le Carre anonymous / fame . . . How about Pynchon fame? Anyhow, I like this guy Coleman. Have to watch more of him.

[@georgeo7639]

Wow majority of comments are about Trump. They literally talked about Trump for 5minutes. The rest is meditation ,consciousness,& psychadelics.

[@quaternio]

Precisely. So who exactly is deranged?

[@blubablubahumbug]

Yeah for real. It's kind of embarasing when those commenters are likely anti triggering and offense but shut off at one negative mention of trump.

[@kirathekillernote2173]

It is clear who is suffering from derangement syndrome, that slightest critique can destabilise your consciousness and you find yourself typing angry comment on 2 min. conversation

[@emiliodauvin5059]

Why are some motivations better than others to Sam?

[@AB-kq9xm]

Always thought CH was influenced a lot as person by SH. Not a bad thing, and can definitely hear it here :)

[@nubzz]

It seems like Harris sets the bar to be a white supremacist very low, stereotyping is now the standard it seems.

[@billsimms2511]

I honestly don’t even know what people mean by white supremacist these days. Seems like it’s a term to be used for any white conservative or republican. Very toxic thinking yet many in our country think nothing of throwing that term around And we wonder why there is a growing racial divide 😳😳

[@sheriffbigdog9671]

Sam knows better. If he held that standard to any racial group, the US would be swimming in black supremacists, Jewish supremacists, etc. Hell, we probably have a lot more true ethno-centrism among other groups than we do among whites. But calling Trump a white supremacist is effective political rhetoric, and Sam found a topic he permits himself to lie about. He doesn't really believe it.

[@MrCmon113]

Didn't he explicitly say that he doesn't think that Trump is a white supremacist?