AWESOME but FORGOTTEN German Renaissance BASKET HILTED Swords

[@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t]

With such a lack of information on the topic in English. Im very glad this video was made, as short as it is, to push forth thr topic even a little bit

[@josephdedrick9337]

Some info on them, specifically the tessack can be found in Norway due to the amount that got imported there.

[@polymathart]

One day, I hope Ian McCollum does a video with Matt.

[@fridrekr7510]

19thC weapons seem like a great overlap for both, maybe discussing how rifles and bayonets or pistols and swords work with one another and how it affects design.

[@Book-bz8ns]

That would be really cool.

[@HobieH3]

Absolutely. Maybe percussion revolvers, or any of the Lee or Martini rifles

[@Oldtanktapper]

Bayonets. On. Everything.

[@apollo13oxygentank14]

Ian's got a pretty bad track record on LGBTQ rights and on being willing to work with sketchy people. He's no Shad, but I would be disappointed to see him in HEMA spaces.

[@allengordon6929]

Hell yess forgotten! I first learned about this whilst trying to find straight-bladed dussacks, and frankly it was love at first sight and ever since.

[@SuperOtter13]

The dussak tessak style sword are my all time favorite sword type. Thank you for sharing these with us

[@robertvondarth1730]

Same. I wish LANDSTNECHT EMPORIUM wasn’t the only maker that made good ones

[@keithhagler502]

Custom has been the only way with these for as long as I can remember.

[@flametitan100]

@@robertvondarth1730 Malleus Martialis recently announced they're working on one, and a friend of a friend of mine was messing with a Castille prototype for one as well.

[@Magey_McMage]

"Hi, thanks for tuning in to another episode of Forgotten Weapons, I'm Matt Easton and today we're at Olympia Auctions with my friend Jonathan Ferguson who is going to show /you guys/ a cool and unique pre-(30 years)war H&K Mortuary Hilt sword."

[@brittakriep2938]

In bavarian town Cham a gunmaker/ gunsmith Kuchenreutter has his shop. His ancesters date back as gunmakers/ gunsmiths shortly after after Thirty Years War.

[@Zbigniew_Nowak]

Recently I saw an old advertisement for a French fencing school. On the poster, a student of this school defeats everyone: a Spaniard with a rapier, a Pole and a Hungarian with sabers, and... a German with a long and wide sword similar to this one. This was apparently their typical weapon. 2:42 I think it's not a matter of trust or lack of trust in the protection provided by the basket, but an element that facilitates the use of old fencing techniques of catching the opponent's blade with this quillons. Early Hungarian sabers have the same "trace of old times".

[@filthypappenheimer5355]

Do you have a link to the poster? I would really like to see it

[@Zbigniew_Nowak]

@@filthypappenheimer5355 Well, a guy showed it on a Polish-language channel, but if you type "Narodowa broń biała i szermierka około 1680 roku w Europie", you will find a video where the guy shows this poster.

[@filthypappenheimer5355]

Finally a video about one of my favourite types of sword!

[@tatache5971]

The two first straight-bladed ones are GORGEOUS. I would have a sword like this so much. After the vid on the schiavonesca, this one! The year is finishing well. Thanks Matt!

[@ForeverMCR]

I could watch a 1000 hours of matt easton talking about dussacks. Most underrated weapon in pure vibes ❤

[@michaelsmith8028]

Forgotten weapons? Without Ian McCollum?

[@dSlayer6160]

Where gun Jesus

[@brittakriep2938]

Baskethilts are still used as Korbschläger in accademic fencing. Up to 1648 Switzerland and Netherlands had been part of HRE, current Belgium until 1792. Up to 1866 Austria, Luxemburg and Liechtenstein had been part of German Federation/ Deutscher Bund. According to an article i read somewhere, that up to about 1800 in accademic fencing of students a rapier with a large plate/ discshaped guard was used. Only for duel, with a simplified fencing system. The famous Ludwig (?) Jahn of Turner ( gymnastics) movement made fun about this rapier and fencing style: The guard is in size of a soup plate, and fencing style useless for combat.

[@notsae66]

German Basket Hilts are the greatest in the world!

[@keithhagler502]

Yes. Yes, they are.

[@kimashitawa8113]

SEKAI ICHI

[@ramibairi5562]

Excellent presentation for such an exotic sword ❤

[@Zbigniew_Nowak]

"Exotic" in relation to Germany is an interesting term, but in a sense... :)

[@jankarieben1071]

Pov: watching Scholagladitoria videos; “Oh wow, my new favorite sword! … Oh wow, my new favorite….” 🍻❤️🤺

[@konstantin.v]

But they won't allow you to do frontal thrusts! 😁

[@barnettmcgowan8978]

I love the sheer depth of Matt's knowledge. He must be fun to have a beer with.

[@Shcreamingreen]

10:29 made me hit the like button instantly

[@ricebrown1]

On first sighting a new sword video, I naturally watched and liked it. That's my style, sir!

[@titanscerw]

Thats swordwatching!

[@-RONNIE]

Thank you for the video ⚔️

[@nobodyexpectssi4654]

Hermosas espadas. Recias y elegantes. No las conocía. Gracias, Maestro

[@lscibor]

Customary plea to do a video about what seems to be the koncerz/tuck, 3rd from the left. 👌

[@yowza234]

Ya can't clickbait us like this People have been asking for that collab

[@NaturalSynthetic777]

A video on thumb rings please

[@pa1adin111]

Those are fascinating. Since you're been showing more complex hilt designs would you be able to do a video on Pappenheimer hilts? I'd love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

[@urseliusurgel4365]

I have one, mushroom pommel, large 'S' quillons, the right of the basket composed of wide curving ribbons - forge welded, the left side of round bar, thumb and finger rings. wide, straight broadsword blade - 32 ins long, with a central fuller and rather rounded tip. A fearsome looking beast! Given the fetishizing of schiavonas, I'm always surprised how these swords seem to be largely overlooked by the collecting community. A 16th century sword in good condition (grip covering replaced at some point), purchased for the price of a decent 1796 LC sabre!

[@philparkinson462]

Great video Matt. Would be interesting to explore The Victorian (and later) fascination with describing some of this type as 'Sinclair sabre' type. I'd imagine mainly down to association with Sinclairs doomed campaign and not unlike Victoria's re imagination of Scottish highland life?

[@M0T0M451]

Fifth from the right, my goodness, what an attractive sword.

[@jacqueslandry2319]

Yep, definitely my favorite

[@stevenclifton624]

Would love to see more info on Saxson hilts

[@hic_tus]

I can see the guy forging the first basket hilts: "so, my lord here, and his father, and his granfather before him, had their fingers chopped off by an infamous villain. that's a shame. Lads, I want you to build a cage, around those fingers, we are gonna make tens, I dare say hundreds of pounds with this idea! to work now, off you go!"

[@henninghesse9910]

Thaler or Groschen.

[@tuerkefechi]

Yep indeed, German/swiss/austrian baskethilted Tessak/Dussack and Broadsword/Backsword are very, very common, you find them in lot of museums in Germany, Austria and Switzerland. My favorite example I had in my hands so far, you can see in my channel.

[@ramibairi5562]

Matt I have a question : German blades were imported to numerous places and mounted on kaskaras and Firanghis . Would this mean that those type of swords would cut with the same effect as a German Broadswords/ backswords ?

[@scholagladiatoria]

It depends on the specific example, as many German blades were made in a specific style for the place they were exporting to - for example kaskara blades were clearly made as kaskara blades a lot of the time, to standard size and shape.

[@ulfhedtyrsson]

Excellent!

[@joejoelesh1197]

I imagine there is some people looking at how these more complex hilts were formed. We're the formed flatish, then forged to shape? Were the bars cut & shaped then forge welded together using a specificly shaped anvil?

[@raffaellointernational2401]

I have a dream, that one day my two fav youtubers will be able to collaborate to make the sickest video on combination weapons. I have a dream today...

[@Remainsofaruineddeadcursed-d7t]

Would to one day have an antique one of these and a similar HEMA version. But without the damn thumb rings. I know they were popular at this time. But thankfully they don't all have one

[@keithhagler502]

Boom!....there they are! My favorites, and I am sure the favorites of many, although not so often spoken of. Thanks, Matt! You either saw my previous comment or have mind-reading capabilities 😂 All you good folk, give this man a push on the like button.

[@titanscerw]

Yes, underrated and understudied. Glad it is now represented here by Matt Easton and also among the general demographic via Polish game Hellish Quart where South German character Kalkstein wields Schiavona - which used as far as I know similar moves as these beauties in the video. +][+

[@Murgoh]

I think most basket hilts look too big and clumsy for my aesthetics but these, especially the last one, are smaller and more elegant looking.

[@mikajlod25]

Can someone give this man some gloves that fit and are not stretched to bursting

[@ironanvil1]

AIUI, Scottish basket hilts owe much of their origin to the large numbers of Scottish mercenaries who served in various German, Scandinavian and wider Baltic armies, and brought the blades they used there back with them.

[@carloparisi9945]

Hi Matt, these German basket hilts with a cross remind me of the ones depicted in Silver, I know it's weird to think that.

[@dingram1066]

Can you recommend any modern sword makers that make one similar to these examples?

[@titanscerw]

What a glorious day, thank you, Matt! +][+

[@johncullen9436]

Could you possibly do a vid. on the thumb ring? Or refer me to one you have already done, if I've missed it? I think that that would be interesting.

[@jonc4050]

It's not a Toledo Salamanca. Still very nice😮

[@raphlvlogs271]

1 and a half edged instead of mainly single edged or double edged

[@rhetorical1488]

my German great grandmother beat us about the head with her wicker mushroom basket for misbehaving. Ill assume this is where she came across the idea😅

[@PJDAltamirus0425]

This kinda makes me wonder. More complex hilts mean you hold your further out, like closer to a straight line...... you could easier gauge the center of percusion cus you could treat the sword like the sights and barrel of a pistol. Less shields being used mean smaller thinks to get around........ so does complex hilts encourage single edge to double edge blade designs and meduim to large shields encourage double edge cus the shield is your hand protection but obstruction your have to get around. It would suck to work around a shield only to hit someone with the spine of the blade. Nevermind.... idk how you use this like a saber... this kinda makes me think of a european tulwar.

[@hic_tus]

can it be possible that the sword with the finger ring was refitted? maybe the blade was not meant to have a complex guard but they then added bars and things later on? it does make sense to me. especially having such a distinctive cross guard and no ricasso🤔 the flat pommel too, maybe the tang was a bit short and they had to make a squished pommel to adjust everything together, with the added weight of the bars and all considered🤔🤔

[@Flytrap]

It looks like the crossguards are a function of the hilt. (Bad math joke)

[@elliotsmith9812]

So if early basket hilts had steel bars why why why did people LATER use bronze???

[@keithhagler502]

For the military, beginning especially with the French, it was a matter of production rate, aesthetics (the shiny stuff), and rust prevention. A cast guard is ten times faster to produce when equipping thousands.

[@fridrekr7510]

It’s an interesting point you highlight with how simple hilts were at the end of the 15thC, especially considering how complex armour had become. I guess the next question is then whether they came about later because the needs changed, such as not wearing gauntlets and therefore needing more hand protection, or if it’s just purely an evolution of a better design with the introduction of complex hilts. Do these even make sense if you’re in full plate, or is it more for civilian use and lighter troops?

[@keithhagler502]

I assume, and have seen on display, these paired well with three-quarter or half harness, some eschewing the right gauntlet or both as being cumbersome. Generally the 'almain' armours with munions. That sort. A move toward light and faster cavalry, an idea spreading from Hungary.

[@OhioCruffler]

A Broacksword!

[@MariaCastillo-i4e]

Your channel is like an oasis in the world of content. Keep on making us happy with your work!🏋️🍇🧭

[@MyraLara-k5r]

Meine Vorstellung von einem heißen Date ist eine kochend heiße Pizza und eine Netflix-Serie, die ich schon zweimal gesehen habe✨

[@heimdalshorn]

...da haben wir uns wohl auf dem völlig falschen Kanal verirrt....?🤣