AWS re:Invent 2018: Amazon DynamoDB Deep Dive: Advanced Design Patterns for DynamoDB (DAT401)

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@lrdass
@lrdass 3 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn't even take breath man... If Eminen was a programmer he would be proud of this guy.
@edpro4776
@edpro4776 10 ай бұрын
Gold 😂
@milequinze
@milequinze 5 жыл бұрын
0:40 Agenda 2:28 History of Data Processing (Anonymous' quote) 2:44 Timeline of Database Technology 5:54 Technology Adoption and the Hype Curve 7:42 Why NoSQL? 9:20 Amazon DynamoDB 12:21 Table 13:50 Partition Keys 14:40 Partition: Sort Key 15:08 Partitions are three-way replicated 16:15 Local Secondary Index (LSI) 17:12 Global Secondary Index (GSI) 18:04 How do GSI Updates Work? 18:56 Scaling NoSQL (Douglas Adams' quote) 19:06 What bad NoSQL looks like... 20:04 Getting the most out of Amazon DynamoDB throughput 21:00 Much better picture... 21:20 Auto Scaling 22:43 NoSQL Data Modeling (Grace Hopper's quote) 23:10 It's all about relationships... 23:51 SQL vs. NoSQL design pattern 26:03 Amazon DynamoDB - Key Concepts 27:24 Tenets of NoSQL Data Modeling 30:41 Complex Queries (Pablo Picasso's quote) 30:51 DynamoDB Streams and AWS Lambda 32:46 Triggers 34:51 Composite Keys (Nicolás Gómez Dávila's quote) 35:10 Multi-value Sorts and Filters 35:21 Approach 1: Query Filter 36:50 Approach 2: Composite Key 37:38 Advanced Data Modeling (Libby Larsen's quote) 37:46 How OLTP Apps Use Data 38:18 Maintaining Version History 40:20 Managing Relation Transactions 41:29 DynamoDB Transactions API 42:39 DynamoDB Table Schema 44:33 Reverse Lookup GSI 45:41 Hierarchical Data 45:47 Hierarchical Data Structures as Items 47:24 Modeling Relational Data 47:34 Modeling a Delivery Service - GetMeThat! 47:53 The Entity Model 48:14 The Access Patterns 48:42 The Relational Approach 49:21 The NoSQL Approach 52:01 The NoSQL Approach (Orders and Drivers GSI) 53:02 The NoSQL Approach (Vendors and Deliveries GSI) 53:45 A Real World Example (Philip K. Dick's quote) 53:52 Audible eBook Sync Service 54:52 Access Patterns 55:18 Primary Table 56:04 Indexes 56:28 Query Conditions 57:36 The Serverless Paradigm (Linus Torvalds' quote) 57:48 Elastic Serverless Applications 59:26 Conclusions
@sarojlam3111
@sarojlam3111 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for the index!
@cupule_acorn
@cupule_acorn 4 жыл бұрын
You're Awesome
@bcut
@bcut 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this! 👍
@freddbezerra2768
@freddbezerra2768 3 жыл бұрын
You rock!
@wesw02
@wesw02 3 жыл бұрын
The best talk on any database I've ever seen. Also one of the only talks I have to slow down, rather than speed up, to digest.
@aliahmadi4443
@aliahmadi4443 3 жыл бұрын
فیلم اکشن جنگی بفرستین برای من
@aliahmadi4443
@aliahmadi4443 3 жыл бұрын
من یک فیلم رزمیکار اکشن میخوام متشکرم
@galeop
@galeop 2 жыл бұрын
29:20 "NoSQL is not a flexible DB, it’s an efficient DB (and especially at scale). But the data model is very much not flexible, because the more that I tune the data model to the access pattern, the more tightly coupled to that service (ie the DB service tuned to my data access pattern) I am." Finally someone who states that clearly !
@ChrisShenton
@ChrisShenton 6 жыл бұрын
This was brilliant: I think I had my mind blown around 49:15 where he's got a dozen different access patterns supported by a single table and just two GSIs. I've never considered mixing totally different data types (e.g., customer, order, provider) in a PK, or mixing different data types in an SK. It's gonna take a while for me to internalize this, but I really appreciate this eye-opener. The example of ebook/audiobook at 53:50 is also excellent.
@mcwills2010
@mcwills2010 6 жыл бұрын
This comment prompted me to watch this. Specifically "dozen different access patterns supported by a single table and just two GSIs.... ". Thanks much for the _very_ concise highlight.
@nemetral
@nemetral 5 жыл бұрын
Since a PK can contain totally different data types, why bother creating GSI, we could simply extend the number of data types inserted as PK and increase the redundancy? Or is the GSI saving up space by not duplicating all the attributes?
@thiagomedeiros1462
@thiagomedeiros1462 5 жыл бұрын
@@nemetralI think one advantage of GSI is that the provisioned throughput settings are separate from those of its base table. It may imply in scalability, avoiding throttling.
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 5 жыл бұрын
a lot of the material online that "tries" to enlighten people on how to design these type of databases all take the SQL approach. Even a lot of the library support for DynamoDB get this utterly wrong.
@namstel9225
@namstel9225 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same realization. I've also never considered putting different data types in a partition key or sort key. Mind blowing!
@lafiosca
@lafiosca 6 жыл бұрын
Seeing this talk live blew my mind and made me realize just how little I really know about properly designing Dynamo tables.
@BillBrutzman
@BillBrutzman 5 жыл бұрын
Do you mean... a (single) Dynamo table?
@ivantrofymenko1308
@ivantrofymenko1308 3 жыл бұрын
This is dense as hell but incredibly informative and oddly thought-provoking. This guy is a great speaker! You can tell there's nothing he doesn't know about databases
@confused6526
@confused6526 5 жыл бұрын
Dude... only a few minutes into your introduction I know I'm looking at an expert. Your passion is way up in the sky. Good man you are . Thanks for sharing the lecture.
@AirTimerSam
@AirTimerSam 4 жыл бұрын
After many round trips, trying to get DynamoDB modelling right, I reached here. Consider these (slides and videos) the bible of Modelling Dynamo DB. Last 10 minutes are pure pleasure.
@robbyriverside
@robbyriverside 5 жыл бұрын
Best NoSQL deep dive I have ever seen. Very clear about what makes modeling different. Wonderful.
@DropofLead
@DropofLead 4 жыл бұрын
All I can say is WOW! Truly changed my perspective on NoSQL data modeling. Overloading the PK and SK with non-related datatypes has shown me the power in this approach and sent me down a new rabbit hole. Well done sir! Keep up the excellent knowledge sharing!
@maver1que
@maver1que 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! The overloading truly opens up a lot of possibilities!
@abhinee
@abhinee 4 жыл бұрын
This is the quality every aws talk shud have. Awesome
@mrlyons
@mrlyons 5 жыл бұрын
easily one of the best tech talks i've ever seen. I learned so much in the last 15 minutes alone.
@wwrafter
@wwrafter 5 жыл бұрын
Finally. I've been trying to wrap my head around this stuff for a while, even after watching this (and last year's) several times. What broke the log jam? 1. Watch at .75 speed. He needs to talk fast to jam it all into the allotted time. Much more absorbable at .75. 2. Primary key doesn't uniquely identify an item. Rather it identifies a collection of items. Might be a terminology overload between RDMS and NOSQL though. . I think I have a better understanding of how this stuff can be used. So cool!
@limplash
@limplash 5 жыл бұрын
Thats why i find Partition key better name then primary key
@bharathpr
@bharathpr 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best tech talks on Dynamo DB. Learnt a lot.
@jjmal22
@jjmal22 5 жыл бұрын
Rick Houlihan really seems to talk through this very complex topic quite casually. He's an expert and this was an excellent video!
@hamtrick4536
@hamtrick4536 5 жыл бұрын
This is the best video for understanding nosql, I always worked with RDBMS and wondered how nosql handles consistency, complex relational data etc. and had a cursory knowledge of the concept. When I completed watching this video, my understanding ended up being high to some degree. Thanks.
@_vicary
@_vicary 5 жыл бұрын
Didn’t have this high quality in-depth information for a long time, love this. Thanks for the talk.
@vishalsharma-bp9zu
@vishalsharma-bp9zu 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad this is my first video on dynamoDB.
@vallard-
@vallard- 4 жыл бұрын
easily one of the best Re:Invent talks out there. Fabulous content. Thank you. Really opened my eyes as to what NoSQL is all about and how to do many to many relationships with DynamoDB.
@gonzalobauer274
@gonzalobauer274 4 жыл бұрын
I can not praise this video enough. I've been looking for introductions to NoSQL on KZbin, particularly for how to model, and after dozens of videos I've found this. It is clear, it is full of introductory knowledge, it's got real world examples (and a presenter with real world experience), and is very well presented. That alone makes for a quality video. But in addition, this guy has a really soothing voice (it gives me that movie vive) and his work with the quotes gave me something else to think about! Thank you.
@tourniquet3306
@tourniquet3306 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! For the viewers, one interesting thing to note is that while GSIs allow you to satisfy many use cases with a single table, internally they are implemented using multiple tables. This is why you need to provision for GSIs separately. So, the single table is not really a single table under the hood.
@tourniquet3306
@tourniquet3306 2 жыл бұрын
@@nononononoo689 Too meta. Can't handle.
@sgsvnk
@sgsvnk 2 жыл бұрын
**Takeaways:** - Global secondary index should scale as fast as the table writes, or else the table writes are throttled - In NoSQL it is an anti-pattern to query a small subset of data, the queries should be equally distributed (the partitions should be created in such fashion) - Design your schema based on your access patterns. NoSQL is designed for simple transactional queries. If your access patterns cannot be simple, use SQL databases. - Tenets of data modeling - understand the nature OLAP, OLTP, DSS / Understand the entity relationships / identify data life cycle TTL, backups, archivals etc / identify access patterns - data sources, aggregations, workflows / use single table / simplify access patterns - single table is good enough for many access patterns (talk mentions 40) - NoSQL for OLTP, DSS at scale, SQL for OLAP or OLTP without too much scale.
@abhishektenneti1604
@abhishektenneti1604 2 жыл бұрын
Love these re:Invent videos...an hour passes by in a snap! Lot of information in just 1hr
@sixpooltube
@sixpooltube 2 ай бұрын
Incredible talk. I've always wondered when I should use RDBMS vs NoSQL and this video has finally answered it.
@IvanyaKosmos
@IvanyaKosmos 2 ай бұрын
yeah, postgres for everything
@valentinamayer5934
@valentinamayer5934 5 жыл бұрын
He speaks very confident and interesting, thank you.
@rahulparakkat9293
@rahulparakkat9293 5 жыл бұрын
Nailed it. Came here direct from 2016 session. Never bored to listen his speech. Wish to meet him some day. Looks like he practiced DynamoDB, all scenarios 1M times.
@BramVandewalle
@BramVandewalle 6 жыл бұрын
Favorite session of Re:invent 2018 so far!
@kyle-rb
@kyle-rb 6 жыл бұрын
I think this took me about two hours to watch, with rewinding and pausing to actually understand the diagrams and what he's saying. (To be fair I haven't used Dynamo as much more than a key value store up to this point.) But anyway, this is super enlightening about Dynamo and NoSQL in general.
@simdeniro
@simdeniro 3 жыл бұрын
The best ever talk on Dynamo DB & NoSQL DB's
@jjgangi
@jjgangi 6 жыл бұрын
He glossed over the race condition at 38:17. If 2 clients are creating new versions (v1 and v2), and those 2 versions get promoted to v0 without a lock/transaction, the properties of v1 and v2 will conflict if v2 is building off v0. You would need to promote to v0 in a transaction to avoid a conflict between draft versions.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 6 жыл бұрын
I may have left out the need for a conditional check on the current version of the v0 item when committing back to the item. Lots of steps to describe in that workflow for sure. You could also explicitly set a lock the v0 item and check that before inserting the new version using transactWrite API. Good catch.
@dreamtheater_92
@dreamtheater_92 5 жыл бұрын
What tool is used to generate the heat map at 19:30 and what metrics contribute to "key pressure"?
@abeidiot
@abeidiot 2 жыл бұрын
probably the only talk which correctly identifies use cases for nosql. So many stackoverflow posters say it's 'flexible' and it couldn't be further from the truth. 'flexible' complex queries are best served by rdbms. Use nosql to have 'KISS" extremely scalable applications and just say your product manager that it's the responsibility of analytics for plugging in random new stuff to fetch data outside of what main api are doing which it was designed for
@kyleburke2
@kyleburke2 5 жыл бұрын
Really amazing presentation. I never understood the one table design but this presentation opened my eyes to a new way to data model.
@HamidKhan-jf6zm
@HamidKhan-jf6zm 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent talk! 47:37 is one of the finest examples of how a complex relational data with a dozen access patterns' requirement is solved by a single NoSQL table with DynamoDB Global Secondary Indexing!!
@hesham200053
@hesham200053 2 жыл бұрын
Magnificent talk, i never understood so much about dynamo ans DBs in one talk
@AndreioxMacedo
@AndreioxMacedo 5 жыл бұрын
God damn. This guy knows stuff. Thank you very much.
@shubhamjha8870
@shubhamjha8870 3 жыл бұрын
The best tech lecture I have gone through.
@richardbinnington9740
@richardbinnington9740 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I went from being interested in NoSQL but having no clue where to start to knowing why we need to switch to it and a pretty good idea how to get there. Thank you
@seetlive
@seetlive 6 жыл бұрын
Multi-access patterns using different combinations of GSI is the most useful takeaway tip (big tip actually) from the presentation. Thank you Sir! well explained
@gilbertg.96
@gilbertg.96 6 жыл бұрын
Any Rick's session is a thumbs up every time!
@OtRatsaphong
@OtRatsaphong 4 жыл бұрын
This one talk gave me the information I needed to understand the benefits of NoSQL databases. NoSQL is not Non-relational. The ERD still matters.
@TareqAlothman
@TareqAlothman 4 жыл бұрын
That is an awesome lecture about NoSQL databases. I wish AWS would include a download link for the slides of the presentation
@mdogsandiego
@mdogsandiego 6 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that much of this is regurgitated from his presentation 2 years ago... and still highly relevant! This time, some great best practice tips, examples and breakdowns. Pretty obvious the NoSQL option is sound and steady, it's all about picking the right use case and how you model the data. Absolutely stellar performance, end to end... again.
@arthurprs
@arthurprs 6 жыл бұрын
What a strange (bad) choice of word
@Iam_be_ezy
@Iam_be_ezy 5 жыл бұрын
Perfect summary and examples for the developer associate exam. Really powerful and amazing stuff
@SwarangaSarma
@SwarangaSarma 6 жыл бұрын
Few additional things to consider: 1. How do we plan for capacity when we have multiple access patterns for the same table; just SUM it up? 2. Be careful to analyse your tables with potential hotspots. I think in the exercise of trying to store multiple item types in the same table, keep an eye out for key distributions that are not ideal for DynamoDB.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 6 жыл бұрын
ReturnConsumedCapacity is your friend when doing capacity planning. Turn it on and run some pattern load. Log the data and look at the cost of each access pattern.. After that it is simple math to look at what the table will require over time. Don't just add it up as most of your access patterns do not run in parallel. Use patterned load representative of real world traffic and the capacity log data will show you what the app will need as you scale. Certainly as you call out make sure that you are not exceeding partition level throughput and if you are then simply shard the partitions accordingly to distribute the load.
@maxehhh
@maxehhh 4 жыл бұрын
Second talk I watch from this guy and really making me understand how it works.
@Tom-ql9vw
@Tom-ql9vw 5 жыл бұрын
At 30:25 it's said not to create multiple tables, yet when you follow official AWS courses on DynamoDB like the one at www.edx.org/course/amazon-dynamodb-building-nosql-database-driven-applications they're creating 6 tables for a simple CRUD prototype application.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
Which one makes the most sense from a compute cost perspective? Structure the data on one table and it takes one query to retrieve all the items required. Structure it on 6 tables and it will take 6 queries with multiple round trips, result set iterations, and client side grouping/ordering. The single table design is obviously much more efficient.
@ericdai5221
@ericdai5221 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Definitly mind blown to put everything into one single table!
@jonassteinberg3779
@jonassteinberg3779 4 жыл бұрын
I *have* run NoSQL clusters at scale and it is true: it's basically a full-time job unless the org has a very, very bright team doing it; you're going to deal with *all* sorts of issues: storage scaling consideration, node scaling consideration, security, to-backup-or-not-to-backup, blah blah blah. I would move to a SaaS in a heartbeat; likely *will* move to a SaaS actually lol.
@seanazlin9148
@seanazlin9148 6 жыл бұрын
Best session at reInvent 2018! Bravo!
@MarcellodeSales
@MarcellodeSales 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how NoSQL is described here... Is there a way to find the actual design of the 2 DynamoDB examples anywhere? That would be great as a resource to wrap our heads around the concepts...
@vidhyagk7581
@vidhyagk7581 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video.great info in a nutshell. Loved the initial slides on data pressure and why No SQL
@confused6526
@confused6526 5 жыл бұрын
@25:11 Sorry I lose my voice ..folks.... :-). Yea I can tell because you talk much faster than your brain :-). You're so good and passionate about your product. AWS is so lucky to get a guy like you. Kudos!
@paulcarroll5871
@paulcarroll5871 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing presentation... and on a single breath too!
@vcrechet
@vcrechet 6 жыл бұрын
Favorite session so far as well !
@frankcastroprimoy
@frankcastroprimoy 4 жыл бұрын
“Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it.” ― George Santayana, The Life of Reason: Five Volumes in One
@KurtMbanje
@KurtMbanje 6 жыл бұрын
Mind blown, one table for multiple partition keys. will take a lot to get to grips with this approach. I can see now why u dont need that many GSI's in DynamoDb.
@ppgab
@ppgab 5 жыл бұрын
Yup, in the end your data will pretty much be unreadable without the modeling documentation
@kingalok
@kingalok 5 жыл бұрын
Nicely defined many concepts. Thanks a lot Rick.
@abhishes
@abhishes 5 жыл бұрын
Although what happens when you add a query pattern as your application grows. That will sure shot lead to a re-architecture of the whole data model and possibly of the application itself. The data model he shows at 49:23 is very specific to the query pattern he knows at the time of modeling this app.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
Adding patterns almost never requires a re-architecture of the entire model. Usually this involves decorating certain items with additional attributes, adding indexes, or modifying existing values. Unless you were completely off target when you built the app the patterns you designed for are not going away.
@nichenjie
@nichenjie 4 жыл бұрын
12:45 The table graph is not very accurate since both partition key and sort key are required. The second row is not valid.
@ppgab
@ppgab 4 жыл бұрын
My issue with this is scaling a many to many relationship, you're duplicating data many places, but what if I need to update/edit this data? I would also have to do that in many places, that sounds like a scaling issue
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 3 жыл бұрын
This is a common objection, but it is an extremely rare requirement. The vast majority of use cases that require denormalization of N:N relationships have immutable data on one side or the other, e.g. event/status/type definitions. The ones that don't either use data from one side or the other that changes infrequently or the use case requires history to be maintained if those values change, e.g. user name or shipping address. Bottom line is if you do have the use case for maintaining N:N relationships with frequently updated data then NoSQL is probably not for you, but using that as a reason to choose RDBMS when 99% of workloads don't require that is not a valid argument.
@osazemeusen1091
@osazemeusen1091 6 жыл бұрын
Impressive stuff. I need to soak all of this up :)
@lkprasanna
@lkprasanna 5 жыл бұрын
In 35:50 , if the partion id is the Opponent, how does the same opponent (Bob), appear in three items? Is the uniqueness enforced by a combination of partition id (opponent) , sort key (date) and filter (status) ?
@reallylordofnothing
@reallylordofnothing 10 ай бұрын
partitionID does not have to be unique. In a table of customer orders customerid can be partitionid and customer id will repeat many times in the table.
@BobF510
@BobF510 Жыл бұрын
This is a groundbreaking article. I read a book on a similar subject that altered my perceptions. "AWS Unleashed: Mastering Amazon Web Services for Software Engineers" by Harrison Quill
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 3 жыл бұрын
Aha, now I understand NoSQL: it is all about denormalizing your data for all of the query use cases, and then overlaying all of these denormalizations into one table* by clever overloading of partition key and sort key. * Or "a few" tables, if you count GSI's as automatically-managed separate tables, which they are under the hood.
@brunojoaquimtech
@brunojoaquimtech 5 жыл бұрын
39:59 What whould happen if I want to update the status of the game since the PK cannot be changed?
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
I assume you are asking about the Composite Key section using status/date to form a faceted list of items sorted by state and date. If you look at the charts the Composite Key is defined on a Secondary Index, not the table. Key values in Secondary Indexes can be updated, so if the items are stored on the table with a Partition Key of SessionID then you can define the GSI on PK = UserID, SK = StatusDate and when the status is updated the items will be re-sorted on the GSI automatically.
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt
@ArneChristianRosenfeldt 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrShredder2011 sorting does not scale. You mean, the item is removed and a new item is inserted into the b-tree
@lkprasanna
@lkprasanna 5 жыл бұрын
In 50:54, the sort key seems to be different for each item. Is that possible?
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
They are all strings and the attribute name is "SK". The string value stored in the "SK" attribute does not have to have to be similar to the one stored in other items, it just has to be a string.
@diepanhrabbit6100
@diepanhrabbit6100 6 жыл бұрын
great talk about data model with dynamodb
@8Trails50
@8Trails50 4 жыл бұрын
this is a really mindblowing talk.
@alansong515
@alansong515 5 жыл бұрын
If we're going to store multiple types of data in one table, like in the video 43:33 (Contacts/Resolvers) or 49:40 (Vendors/Drivers/Customers) , and say I need to query Contacts much more frequently than Resolvers, doesn't this create the "hot keys" problem? The workload would be inherently ill-distributed because of business logic, and in the real world I don't think it's likely that access for each type of data would be even. So [Partition Key Design principal](docs.aws.amazon.com/amazondynamodb/latest/developerguide/bp-partition-key-uniform-load.html) would contradict One Table principal, right? Ok found a SO thread stackoverflow.com/questions/52278718/how-to-design-key-schema-to-have-only-one-dynamodb-table-per-application about this. Seems I'm not the only one with this concern.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
Hot keys are defined by the amount of data being moved in and out of a storage partition and nothing else. If you exceed 1K WCU or 3K RCU on a single logical key you will be throttled. Having some partitions that are busier than others does not create hot keys.
@ppgab
@ppgab 5 жыл бұрын
I think that as long as you are using uuids and sharding your data you will run into no issues
@pixelperfectgamer
@pixelperfectgamer 5 жыл бұрын
Totally changed my take on DynamoDB. Helped a lot. There are two doubts that I have: 1. Is it a good practice to keep a copy of the same data with different Sort Key? Doesn't it take more storage? 2. How should I handle updates to the resources? Should I use the versioning mechanism that you have shown? Thanks
@bradw2k
@bradw2k 3 жыл бұрын
1. Yes but "storage is cheap" is the premise of NoSQL, as he says. 2. Sounds like the versioning mechanism was especially useful for simulating transactions before DynamoDB had the transaction API. But now, unless the old versions really are needed by the OLTP-style queries of the applications/services, probably not justified keeping them in the table.
@deepakdgreat
@deepakdgreat 5 жыл бұрын
At 51:51 , what if same customer orders the same item_1 a few days later. Does PK + SK combination not have to be unique ?
@JoaquinBravoContreras
@JoaquinBravoContreras 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the same on first pass, but that email is the email of the vendor :-p.
@dexterplameras3249
@dexterplameras3249 3 жыл бұрын
The relational database was invented because of their strength in "relationships" not speed. NoSQL predates via Hierarchical Databases which is basically what all NoSQL databases are (tree structures). Hierarchical Databases were also faster than RDBMs which tells you speed is not the reason RDBMs were invented. RDBMs were implemented only when the computing power to process JOINs (relationships) became feasible.
@hongweixie693
@hongweixie693 4 жыл бұрын
Learned a lot! Helped me to resolve a complex issue!
@seerozhaa2656
@seerozhaa2656 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the talk, it was really helpful!
@amazonwebservices
@amazonwebservices Жыл бұрын
❤️
@ppgab
@ppgab 5 жыл бұрын
At 42:40, How do I keep the copies updated? There's no batch updating in DynamoDB
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
TransactWrite API provides batch update capabilities if you need transaction guarantees. Otherwise you can just use BatchPutItem and simply clobber cloned items rather than update them.
@ppgab
@ppgab 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrShredder2011 Thanks! But in the end you can't do a write with "begins_with", for example "write where partition=contact_1 and sort.begins_with(resolver)". When I tried to replicate this I had to first do a query to get all sort keys and then update them all 25 items at once, this became really inneficient upwards of 100 items, so in the end this one many-to-many relationship I had in my table I solved using a "foreign-key". I wish dynamodb API had more support for the things you mention here, or maybe I'm just missing something.
@herefobeer
@herefobeer 5 жыл бұрын
@@ppgab Map/reduce.
@ppgab
@ppgab 5 жыл бұрын
@@herefobeer I don't understand your answer, my problem is mostly related to the API
@ppgab
@ppgab 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrShredder2011 Was there any update to this issue? If I'm trying to update a contact's email that has 1000 resolvers, first I need to get all resolvers from this contact, and then do a batch write 25 at a time updating the email, this would end up as several requests. Is this a case where you would use another table or maybe just simulate a foreign key?
@jameswilson9011
@jameswilson9011 5 жыл бұрын
16:30 partition key shouldnt be order id, it should be customer id
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 5 жыл бұрын
I am surprised nobody has mentioned that, I said OrderID but meant CustomerID as I indicated a few seconds later.
@MrSanjibdutta
@MrSanjibdutta 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering what happens when technology with very low-cost computing resources may be like truly cost-effective quantum computing arrives..do we need to rethink and go back to relational db or something more compute-hungry but efficient?
@Hartvig5k
@Hartvig5k 6 жыл бұрын
16:37: "OrderId is my partition key". Did he mean CustomerId?
@dimkir100
@dimkir100 5 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Hartvig i noticed that as well, he uses CustomerId in the sentence that follows. probably slip of the tongue
@djdawizz
@djdawizz 5 жыл бұрын
Obviously a slip of the tongue, the LSI partition key must be the same as the table's which he also mentions in his next sentence. :)
@djdawizz
@djdawizz 5 жыл бұрын
So, I'm now in the position that I didn't know upfront that we would need another item type and so I named the partition key attribute to something that will not be applicable at all for the new item type. So for example, I'm now storing animals with a partition key like AnimalID, but I didn't know that I would also need to store the veterinarian in the same table. So probably I will need to create a new table and migrate the data and fix references to the attribute name? So I guess it's arbitrary and therefor not shown in any of the talk's examples, but how would you name the partition key's attribute if the key can be different things for different items?
@MrDoodleIt
@MrDoodleIt 4 жыл бұрын
pk is typically the best practice
@francispascual137
@francispascual137 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@justethans
@justethans 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Quick question. On the hierarchal data demonstration you use the USA as a partition key. Is that a good partition key in terms of uniqueness? Would that become a hot key?
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 3 жыл бұрын
Potentially the partition could become hot depending on the number of Items on the tree. If you are trying to move more that 1K WCU/3K RCU in/out of the partition you would need to shard the partition key and split the data across more than one logical key. The data would then be processed in parallel across the logical keys. To ensure uniqueness the last item in the composite sort key should be a unique location or ID, like a desk location or userId.
@JamesSmith-cm7sg
@JamesSmith-cm7sg 3 жыл бұрын
Access patterns change? You're building a data model which works today, but when the business requires new access patterns which no longer fit, how do you handle that?
@TomerBenDavid
@TomerBenDavid 5 жыл бұрын
16:15 local and global secondary indexes
@bernhardsmuts2265
@bernhardsmuts2265 6 жыл бұрын
I am starting to wrap my head around this concept and understand it. Yet, on the 13th, AWS launched DoucmentDB, which sounds like their version of MongoDB. Is it going to replace DynamoDB, or will it have different use cases, for basic consumer apps, what will be the best direction to go with?
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 6 жыл бұрын
DynamoDB is not going away. There are strong opinions in the NoSQL community about differences between so called "Document" and "Wide Column" API's. Those who really know the technology understand that there is no difference when you are handling big data workloads and that is what NoSQL was designed for. The patterns I use apply to all NoSQL backends in some variation. AWS is providing a choice for those who believe they need to have one. As far as which one to go with I think that comes down to the cost to support the workload. Take a look at both and see which one is the most cost effective for what you are trying to do. Depending on the workload it might be faster to develop on DocumentDB at first but you will probably be introducing scale challenges similar to what I see commonly in MongoDB apps that will force you to do things correctly sooner or later. Take the time up front to model your data for scale and then make the call based on a meaningful TCO analysis.
@pm71241
@pm71241 2 жыл бұрын
The argument about storage cost vs CPU cost is a fair argument, but it's a bit of a stretch to claim that's the only consideration on whether to use SQL or NoSQL
@sneakyknight
@sneakyknight 3 жыл бұрын
Speaker should host an auction selling database technologies, 10/10 would buy
@davetube75
@davetube75 5 жыл бұрын
A great presentation!
@JavierHuerta
@JavierHuerta 4 жыл бұрын
Just looking at DynamoDB Streams and lambda as a way of building a far better performant DB than any SQL database ever was an eye opener. But the rest of the presentation... mind blown.
@dguisinger
@dguisinger 6 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations on integrating with AppSync with these access patterns? The method of using a resolver at every relationship, for a specific data type really seems to break the advantage of bringing back multiple entity types for a given primary key or gsi key.... (don't even get me started on AWS Amplify which treats DynamoDB exactly like a relational database when it creates your resources from your schema) Also, what about duplicated data within a single item? I sometimes find when I'm building GSI or LSI fields, I sometimes want to put concatenated data that already exists in a separate index in a different combination. What are your thoughts when you run across something like that? Its obviously more work to make sure the two attributes have the correct data in both.
@MrShredder2011
@MrShredder2011 6 жыл бұрын
I duplicate data in items all the time for exactly the same reasons you point out. Sometimes there is a need for a composite key structure with an embedded numeric sort. Converting the number to a 4 byte hexadecimal string when you build the key provides a string sortable key component, but I will still have the number as a first class attribute. In fact I usually keep the data attributes on the items even when they also exist in the composite key so there is no need to unpack them when you have to access the values. I am also not a fan of frameworks that try and abstract the need to properly model your data in a NoSQL database. NoSQL requires data models to be tuned to the access patterns in order to be efficient and cost effective. There is really no way to automate or abstract denormalization since it requires that both the entity relationship model and the access patterns for the data be well understood to even start the modeling process. This is a fundamental difference between RDBMS and NoSQL that cannot be ignored.
@dguisinger
@dguisinger 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrShredder2011 Makes sense to me, that is the direction I've gone since watching your presentation. I ended up writing a library that takes care of automating the work around those access patterns and making them easier to hit from AppSync. Classes inheriting the base table class define the entity types, their calculated attributes, etc... Since AppSync can take nested JSON structures, the code knows how to take multiple entity types from a single DynamoDB query and package them into those nested objects... and since it is aware of what attributes have calculated values, it handles PUT/UPDATE operations so the AppSync code or other client code doesn't need to know anything about those attributes. Seems to work pretty well, so far I've only consolidated groups of tables that have a lot of related data and access patterns, though I probably won't do the entire application in a single table. I'll probably stick with a few tables each covering a wide area of functionality.
@mikebannister78
@mikebannister78 5 жыл бұрын
"don't even get me started on AWS Amplify which treats DynamoDB exactly like a relational database when it creates your resources from your schema". Amen, I don't understand why they'd ship Amplify like this?
@brianoregan5305
@brianoregan5305 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic speaker.
@johnfeusi9233
@johnfeusi9233 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain why empty strings aren't allowed in non-key attributes? Or at the very least why they can't be in nested attributes? forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?threadID=90137
@ABronfin
@ABronfin 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is insane. Wow!
@kylone1
@kylone1 6 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that Data warehouse experts say Relational Databases (RPBs) are poor at OLAP at scale, and NoSQL experts say that RDBs are poor at OLTP at scale. It seems to me that RDBs can't scale well--these newer technologies are taking a portion of the RDBs workload and making it scale well.
@avani0038
@avani0038 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, mind blown!
@wacalu
@wacalu 6 жыл бұрын
I‘ve read that in a microservice setup each service would have its own database and no other service is allowed to access it. how would that work with single table setups?
@abhijeetmaharana
@abhijeetmaharana 6 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Verdonk Thanks for posting the link! Both these videos taken together provide very deep insights into working with DynamoDB.
@hynemoon
@hynemoon 5 жыл бұрын
This men is a genius!
@themodernarchitect7537
@themodernarchitect7537 5 жыл бұрын
Does `StartsWith` have any performance impact if you extensively use it to query hierarchical data?
@NoSQLKnowHow
@NoSQLKnowHow 5 жыл бұрын
No, not really. Using begins_with is not a significant source of latency even in the rare cases where items that satisfy that query are spread over different partitions.
@vermoidvermoid7124
@vermoidvermoid7124 Жыл бұрын
GSI is eventually consistent. This is a major issue. I can model the data in dynamodb but because GSI's are NOT strongly consistent, it create many issues/challenges for an application requiring strong consistency.
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