Full interview with Clifford Geertz - part one

[@nchibs8308]

Amazing. Thank you. Such a lively lovely human being

[@PaulusHeruWibowoKurniawan]

I just read his book, "After the Fact." The book talks about his experience as an anthropologist who so detailed describes what he observed. I found many interesting things about this man. He looked so humble because he never forgot the history of his life and the people around him. I was interested in the talk of Pare, a small area in Kediri, in the context of Indonesian politics before and after 1965. What he described in the book was not only based on his intuition as a researcher, but also as someone who had a desire to be friends with people around him. Really, I hope the thoughts and research that he did can be continued so that it is useful for us to increasingly understand others as neighbors not as strangers. Thank you...

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[@zsand83]

Great! Thanks for posting!

[@TheModernHermeticist]

talk about thick description

[@paponsarkar6085]

Please describe

[@venkataraghotham7586]

I loved his Negara The Theatre State a great book filled with insight

[@yyz3482]

I don't know if its possible, but I would appreciate it if someone could put English subtitles on the video so that non-English speakers like me can learn from it. Thank you! (sometimes is hard to understand the speech)

[@laurenbenyo2134]

+Arthur Montilla Don't worry, english speakers can't understand it either

[@ryanseah2311]

Just enable captions

[@NESH4A]

@@ryanseah2311 they arnt accurate

[@Lioninthenight]

Fascinating!

[@MrVitaactiva]

Geertz, and I know this for a fact ,was never happy about being called a "podermodernist," in fact he was strongly against it. Rather, he became a particularist later in his career, a much more apt term form someone who studies a group of people on their own terms without imposing anthropological categories on them, or at least not without explicitly defining those categories. Deciphering between a "twitch" and a "wink" isn't necessarily postmodern.

[@alexandrehabonneau1403]

Funny you wrote Margaret Thatcher instead of Margaret Mead in the chapters session 😅Did she make people that furious ?

[@eliporguit]

podrian subir una con subtitulos en español!!!???

[@123theref]

I want him to cough so badly.....

[@crewsadist]

Think congestive heart failure. Him doing that would have little to no effect.

[@pradeepverse]

ROFL

[@anitagrenci2014]

Sarebbe interessante se ci fosse una traduzione anche in italiano!!!!

[@nathanrobinson980]

Just as long-winded in person as he is in print.

[@crewsadist]

I don't see or read him as winded any longer than he needed to be to make his point. Among the things I really liked about his writings are that he tried to be so concrete and precise because he really didn't want his point to be lost on dolts. Unfortunately, dolts are easily bored and distracted (see the current POTUS, as one example - there are, of course, others). I gather from this that he doesn't so much enjoy talking about himself as, given what he did for a living, intellectually he sees why it's necessary - the author's POV is always vital to understand, and his books on Indonesian and NW African societies reflect that urgency. Anyway, because OTOH he sees the point in him doing it here, and in being precise and complete, while on the other he's really stretched his patience in thinking about things that he knows too well and doesn't enjoy thinking back on, he comes across as a little short-tempered, withdrawn in his sotto voce details, and reticent. Many decades ago I saw him at a lecture and later interviewed him for public access TV show. We didn't go anywhere near his life, because he'd come to the college to speak to a fascinating subject, the role of religious adherence in regional politics. So I never saw any of what we see on this video; he was thrilled at finding any audience for what believed was important and so many in society didn't want to hear discussed at all. But then also, I was a lot younger, and he too. Here we see him less than 2 years before death, and there are all sorts of signs of the congestive heart failure than claimed his, life. And that too, the trouble with tiring too easily, with grabbing oxygen, with clearing the tubes, causes a lot of annoyance.

[@louduva9849]

@@crewsadist Much effortposting that day.

[@LadyPuddleton]

I know what you mean, though there's plenty of 'deep play' going on in this interview!

[@vitoriaperfumes8857]

Sinto muito que intelectuais se desviem para a ideologia ou para defender interesses políticos. Geertz faz duras crítucas ao Dr. Malinowsky, mas poupa Mead pelo seu trabalho duvidoso em Samoa para atender uma articulação ideológica.

[@veranami]

Like his books and articles, Clif can speak and write the longest and most detailed sentences that I have ever encountered.Pity that he did not learn that brevity aids understanding and superfluous detail hinders the argument.

[@crewsadist]

So you think you know better than he did about how to convey things he'd witnessed and how to interpret them? That seems to me revealingly egotistic of you.

[@colinsmith3291]

That's one way of looking at it. And for most people I would agree. But I would say that Geertz, while long-winded, is eloquent and articulate in his long-windedness. Try to keep up!

[@kirstyschmirsty]

I find it despicable that all you Anthro-ethnographio-centric workers just trash each other's work instead of respecting the contributions to the field. Also for the Interviewer what Mic and recording devices did you use?

[@crewsadist]

The subject here was suffering from advanced congestive heart failure. It's in his throat being full of mucus, his nose constantly running, and in his mouth, which shows a lot of dental neglect. The interviewer isn't mic'd. When I interviewed Geertz, which would have been around 1972, it was in a TV studio - not a great one, it was public access, after all - but we were mic'd up from above. When I watched the interview a few weeks later, for editing, I found that mostly what I'd been doing is making up prompts, signals just to keep him going on a line that to me seemed interesting, or to move on if I thought otherwise. I remember he was very tolerant of this, but in very much the way shown here: Geertz has a very big, very quick mind, whereas mine goes along more or less a average speed and capacity. It was easy to hear what I was asking, but what I was asking was the least interesting parts and frankly I would have been happier to have been mic'd like this interviewer here, to keep the attention of the listener on the subject, rather than on me.

[@doctortaiwan]

good

[@ghostboy07]

Is this video really 59:02 long?? O_o isnt that like against the rules or something?

[@fakuh81]

En español?? Sustitulos por favor

[@elenatroncone]

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[@marioriospinot]

Nice.

[@lutfiromdana6500]

santri, abangan and priyai on javanese religion

[@inferno0020]

Clifford Geertz is Phillipe Petain of American anthropology. Geertz betrayed what Anthropologists should have stood for. Thanks his creative writing, now American sociocultural anthropologists have no interest in science of human-the idea which Boaz stood for. Today, All those so-called "activists" care are "interpreting cultures" for their political interest in the name of relativism. For them, culture is only toys which can manipulated. I didn't attack HIM in person, but i dislike his ideas.

[@crewsadist]

You both mis-characterize what he stood for and over-credit his influence. He didn't 'crush' anyone. He wrote widely and well and as time went on more and more people in the field preferred his POV. You are silly to try to demonize him. I'm always surprised to encounter strong feelings against Geertz, until I remember how widely and enthusiastically he was attached on the basis of his writings on cultural belief systems, particularly religiocity. Religiots are notoriously vindictive and don't like to be seen as the animals they and we all are.

[@intlprofs1]

poor audio or his volice

[@manliorosco6189]

ignirance+arrogance= clifford geertz

[@crewsadist]

stupid and boorish is no way to go thru life, manilo

[@elenatroncone]

Ajajaja