Ayanokoji vs Johan Liebert - Full Scale Battle + All possibilities

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@MrRWord
@MrRWord Жыл бұрын
A lot of people forget that Johan would not beat Ayanokoji in outsmarting in a real life situation without his influence and if they both started from scratch.
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Mega fax
@i7arus
@i7arus Жыл бұрын
Bro influence is legit one of the most important thing irl 💀 you can take tenma for eg coz of his influence many peeps supported him and even hired a lawyer to get him out
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
@@i7arus did you not read what he wrote? Read again
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
@@dcmelhor5846 read again
@i7arus
@i7arus Жыл бұрын
@@Etheldreda20 bro Ayano himself admitted he is not good at socializing 💀 and I doubt he is an influential person
@upcomingperson4098
@upcomingperson4098 Жыл бұрын
Even if I love Johan, I can't agree more than this. Johan is smarter in manipulation, influencing, and planning. However, if this is a full scale battle with Ayanokoji having the upper hand at this one where Johan isn't given much advantages to make things more fair then obviously Ayanokoji can win. That's all to it.
@Sussyboeimpastah
@Sussyboeimpastah Жыл бұрын
Fax, johan fans really didn't see this 😮‍💨
@upcomingperson4098
@upcomingperson4098 Жыл бұрын
@@Sussyboeimpastah I'm a Johan fan and I can accept that Ayanokoji can beat Johan if he has advantages. Like, in a real life situation obviously Johan wins because of his intellect to manipulate others and kill Ayanokoji with guns but c'mon, in this fight Ayanokoji has the upper-hand here. I'm still tired of Johan fans not being able to see this. Sure, just because Johan is better than Ayanokoji as a character doesn't mean he beats Ayanokoji in a fight.
@安妮亞-x7d
@安妮亞-x7d Жыл бұрын
That’s the truth🫡
@justicerp574
@justicerp574 Жыл бұрын
@@安妮亞-x7d wake up t realiy johan > all u say
@gamershub992
@gamershub992 9 ай бұрын
@@justicerp574 Wake up to reality Yuuichi>>>Johan
@jasonmatt6081
@jasonmatt6081 Жыл бұрын
You know Johan is the 🐐 when he being compared to a modern character that was literally created to be OP and broken as possible without any superpower. Especially when Johan only has 20-25 minutes of screen time in the 74 episode of Monster.
@gokai961
@gokai961 Жыл бұрын
I mean johan was literally the result of an experiment of bonaparta to create the most perfect child that fills all categories by matching couples that are perfect for each other Johan was a result of a couple perfect for each other, while Ayanokoji was supposed to not be born with ANY advantages in genes in order for his father to prove that ANYONE can conquer the world if raised in the perfect environmental conditions (which failed because kiyotaka and professor Ayanokoji were actually good (not perfect like johans parents) but just good for each other to make a child with high potential) so yeah the result definitely was easily phenomenal as proven by koji being the only one that to survive the 4th generation
@patrickjaneismyname
@patrickjaneismyname 2 ай бұрын
you know koji is broken when hes put against literal monsters at the age of 16-17
@franckkamonou7519
@franckkamonou7519 Жыл бұрын
Perfect comparison 👌 nothing to add.but for those who will start to rage because johan did not win don't forget that his two there have different goal in their world try to imagine ayanokoji in monster and johan classroom of elite. So we can't really comparing them both as there is no evidence that either ayanokoji or Johan can't do what the other does. but personally i think johan is more manipulation with influence but ayanokoji more knowledge, smarter etc...
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@Glycer
@Glycer Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@BD-LIJEKTOR
@BD-LIJEKTOR Жыл бұрын
So... Lmao... 1st U say we can't Compare Them.. Then u say Koji is smarter 🤣🤣.. Bruhh U say if he's in COTE He will same as koji... You are debunk proved.. And checkmate in your own line🗿☕
@lowleight6075
@lowleight6075 Жыл бұрын
Knowledge I agree with Ayanakoji, but smartness also goes to Johan
@NameForgotten828
@NameForgotten828 Жыл бұрын
Can't imagine johan is cote johan is literally a 23 yo adult 💀💀💀 ayanokoji is 17
@gabrielperrino3895
@gabrielperrino3895 11 ай бұрын
We all know that in reality Johan would not confront anyone head-on, and if he did and realized that they were a threat to him, he would resolve it by shooting his rival in the head. End.
@impissing
@impissing Ай бұрын
He would as an act of testing fate
@NamelessTheHater
@NamelessTheHater Жыл бұрын
Perfect, no biased categories that were given to characters, great video.
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx 😁
@nasrullahkhan9881
@nasrullahkhan9881 Жыл бұрын
Planing.. Antiception... Goes to Koji.. Lmao... Another one that never Watched Monster yet.. Lmao🗿
@Nycesuhq
@Nycesuhq Жыл бұрын
@@nasrullahkhan9881 yeah I don’t agree with that but everything else is pretty much accurate ngl it’s Johan fans crying cuz their favourite character can get beat 😢
@BD-LIJEKTOR
@BD-LIJEKTOR Жыл бұрын
@@Nycesuhq 🤡🤡🤡High Schooler vs A man who control Germany 🗿☕.. YOU Are The one who is Crying L
@Nycesuhq
@Nycesuhq Жыл бұрын
@@BD-LIJEKTOR least weird Johan fan
@shhhh4237
@shhhh4237 Жыл бұрын
I really liked that u gave influence a different place/game. Influence add 30 to 40% of winning chance in real life situation.
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Fax
@vishnubharadwaj6300
@vishnubharadwaj6300 Жыл бұрын
Ayanokoji can be tracked from records etc, they know his capabilities etc, Johan is a monster. He vanishes like the smoke from a fire leaving the untraceable ashes behind. If ayanokoji manages to meet a monster, he is most likely to be swallowed by it.
@SuperiorEdits755
@SuperiorEdits755 Ай бұрын
You know it’s bad when they lock you in the basement and drug you because they’re scared of you. (What they did to Johan)
@Ghghgh-tg7ye
@Ghghgh-tg7ye Жыл бұрын
The idea of Classroom of Elite is to show how genuises behave in common life situations like school, how genius things can be demonstrated in common limited life situation in school. So it is incorrect to say that COTE characters are less inteeligent than Death note or Monster only because they are school level when Monster is country level. We compare intelligence which here cannot be fairly demonstrated by influence level. So I agree with author. Ayanokoji beats in overall inteeligence and pbysical power but in influence this Monster wins
@Axelblaze1022
@Axelblaze1022 Жыл бұрын
Also to add to your point, the detectives in death note were incompetent besides L. I could put 10 COTE characters in that investigation which would have helped L.
@l.pricetag.5207
@l.pricetag.5207 Жыл бұрын
@@Axelblaze1022 exactly. That's something everyone always ignores.
@huzefa600
@huzefa600 Жыл бұрын
Anticipation and predictions to Johan.
@Monicayadav_55
@Monicayadav_55 Жыл бұрын
U are the true ayanokoji fan ❤️
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
Not anticipation but it's debateable
@johanliebert6885
@johanliebert6885 Жыл бұрын
@@Etheldreda20 Johan literally anticipate everything what gonna happen in monster series
@shaynekerry
@shaynekerry Жыл бұрын
@@johanliebert6885 you can say the same for ayanokoji he's anticipate everything as well so it is quite debatable
@lieberte
@lieberte Жыл бұрын
Ayano predicts everything to the smallest detail, Johan didn't predict to be saved@@johanliebert6885
@animegear9447
@animegear9447 Жыл бұрын
These debates have improved so much
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Yep
@ven.9531
@ven.9531 Жыл бұрын
Johan low diffs with prep time. Koji mid-high diffs without prep time. Overall, in a real-world scenario - Johan high diffs.
@S_Ahmed64
@S_Ahmed64 Жыл бұрын
Real world is with scratch so no influence or contacts so ayanokoji>
@garyzhu1913
@garyzhu1913 Жыл бұрын
real world ayanokoji
@nazwa2587
@nazwa2587 Жыл бұрын
​@@garyzhu1913 if it is head on then ayanokoji wins. When with prep time johan wins
@danglers1506
@danglers1506 5 ай бұрын
​@@nazwa2587 I think what people ignore is that Ayanokoji has no emotions, so manipulating him would literally be impossible. Johan can control as many people as he likes but in the end Ayanokoji would be able to know all of them because of his ability of Situational Awareness, so most likely even with prep-time, Koji wins
@N1GG4T1V3
@N1GG4T1V3 Жыл бұрын
The only reason Johan doesn't outperform Koji in the FSIQ aspects is because Johan's exploits are "off screen". The problem with this is that it makes it difficult to deduce how Johan created his strategies in a timely manner, therefore, his exploits in this area are simplified. However, I still think that overall Johan takes this Extreme-Diff. In a battle of outsmarting, Koji can't keep up with Johan... Trying to unmask Johan is like wanting to throw a rock into a void and wanting to predict where it will land. Literally, in Monster, if Johan "lost" it was because he wanted it that way. He basically wanted to kill himself.
@partyvietnamcommunist4829
@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Жыл бұрын
exactly. But even if you count off screen feats Ayanokoji still take FSIQ and thinking
@N1GG4T1V3
@N1GG4T1V3 Жыл бұрын
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Yeah; but the difference is minimal. Anyway, overall is for Johan
@partyvietnamcommunist4829
@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Жыл бұрын
@@N1GG4T1V3 for me it Ayanokoji
@davidvanaa1191
@davidvanaa1191 Жыл бұрын
Fr the author don't know how to give him on-screen feats but still what a monster he is even with off-screen feats
@Ihatejohanliebert
@Ihatejohanliebert 8 ай бұрын
Johan isn't made for outsmarting debates but he definitely clears koji
@jakewilliams5284
@jakewilliams5284 Жыл бұрын
Lmao all the johan fanboys are butt hurt
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Xdd
@yogurt-chan
@yogurt-chan Жыл бұрын
The tables have turned now!
@sova6330
@sova6330 Жыл бұрын
people say ayanokoji is overrated but i think johan is also overrsted same way
@Ayanokoji3535
@Ayanokoji3535 Жыл бұрын
No, cry
@sova6330
@sova6330 Жыл бұрын
@@Ayanokoji3535 i am not crying but Johan is overrated
@Ayanokoji3535
@Ayanokoji3535 Жыл бұрын
@@sova6330 Ayanokouji is overrated
@saltyman8755
@saltyman8755 Жыл бұрын
both are overrated
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
No every debate of Johan. Doesn't Win in that case Johan is underated and I've seen ayanokoji is being overrated over of the intelligence and iq
@yogurt-chan
@yogurt-chan Жыл бұрын
W video and finally someone who agree ayanokoji wins in a common World situation. Ayanokoji wouldn't just wander around till he dies in the outside world
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Yep
@dhruvchahar5939
@dhruvchahar5939 Жыл бұрын
Wtf dude ayo can never win , tbh he is just yood at fighting high schoolers
@Ekhein
@Ekhein Жыл бұрын
@@dhruvchahar5939 He'd neg diff any real life human tho.
@cha0tic.fa1e
@cha0tic.fa1e Жыл бұрын
@@dhruvchahar5939 cry about it johantard
@gikara_5646
@gikara_5646 Жыл бұрын
@@dhruvchahar5939 someone who haven't read the LN.
@ashetincan8873
@ashetincan8873 Жыл бұрын
what I love about this, is that johan fans can't argue because they don't know what 70% of this means🤣
@xevatr
@xevatr Жыл бұрын
Fax
@Ayanotards
@Ayanotards Жыл бұрын
They just don't need to. It's obvious W for Johan
@ashetincan8873
@ashetincan8873 Жыл бұрын
@@Ayanotards tell me then, what parts do you disagree with they video and why?
@somerandomguy4216
@somerandomguy4216 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ayanotards no
@kimurace
@kimurace Жыл бұрын
Cote pfp
@DAX-PMFT
@DAX-PMFT Жыл бұрын
W vid... I feel like 5-10 points should've gone to Johan and the difficulties raised a bit in his favor But W
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@JadonF
@JadonF Жыл бұрын
I only saw like 2 or 3 prob more categories that should have gone to Ayanokoji instead of Johan and go to Johan instead of Ayanokoji.
@Mango1234-k1u
@Mango1234-k1u Жыл бұрын
Just wait ayanokoji to become an adult. He would destory the shit out of johan(overrated) liebert.
@EmmanuelEntera
@EmmanuelEntera 6 күн бұрын
So u really think an adult martial artist can kill a master piece with GUN?
@Abdallah_pr1
@Abdallah_pr1 Жыл бұрын
Perfect comparison without any doubt 👌
@indianproplayer8117
@indianproplayer8117 Жыл бұрын
Johan's greatest flaw is the absence of awareness about his own abilities
@Stefanovalentine55496
@Stefanovalentine55496 10 ай бұрын
Facts w editor love how you actually make full length video just to compare these two logically. 👏🏻
@braindisabled
@braindisabled Жыл бұрын
combat: ayanokoji johan: my gun disagrees 🔫
@johan5815
@johan5815 Жыл бұрын
Lmao ayanokoji is supersonic he can dodge a bullet from a pistol
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
​@@johan5815 shoots him in the back
@FlyAchX
@FlyAchX Жыл бұрын
​@@johan5815💀💀💀🦟
@Ihatejohanliebert
@Ihatejohanliebert 8 ай бұрын
​@@johan5815ayanokoji speedsonic feat was debunked, you can even search it lol, and a bullet goes 3000km per second so it's faster than ayanokoji reaction time
@longway5483
@longway5483 3 ай бұрын
​@@Ihatejohanliebert 3000km/s did you pull out this number out of your ass.. It's not a sniper it's simply a pistol 🤦‍♂️
@gikara_5646
@gikara_5646 Жыл бұрын
Such a satisfying edit. W+fax
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx ❤️
@puipuia_tlau
@puipuia_tlau Жыл бұрын
I have a question bro where is that koji scene from? Where he is leaning on the wall which ep? I am subscribed
@69_b86
@69_b86 Жыл бұрын
nah this dude is more intelligent than any fiction character he know words that i don't even know bruh💀💀💀
@TalhaSiddiqui-d7i
@TalhaSiddiqui-d7i 3 ай бұрын
what is meant by common world: extreme diff
@Kaizer_GG
@Kaizer_GG Жыл бұрын
Johan is still a better antagonist and nobody can replace him
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Жыл бұрын
Yep But outsmarting he lose
@Iloveanime625o1
@Iloveanime625o1 Жыл бұрын
We are comparing who's smarter or who wins in overall intelligence He's not saying that Ayanokouji is a better character than Johan liebert
@EnderKnight25
@EnderKnight25 Жыл бұрын
what is the name song?
@primeroyal7434
@primeroyal7434 Жыл бұрын
I think anticipation and planning go to Johan since he planned everything up to his "perfect suicide" and anticipated every variable for it. You could further split planning into short-term and long-term planning and give it to Ayanokoji and Johan respectively. Overall though, great comparison.
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx ❤️
@rahulyd078
@rahulyd078 Жыл бұрын
If we are not considering feats ayanokoji anticipation and planning is just like seeing future
@gikara_5646
@gikara_5646 Жыл бұрын
Ayano also planned and anticipated the whole time span of V4-V7 (which is basically the whole season 2) and he said to Horikita that he cannot see the future (when she asked him if he has foresight) and said about calculating every possible outcome and going with the one that has the highest chance.
@primeroyal7434
@primeroyal7434 Жыл бұрын
@@gikara_5646 That's why I said that Ayanokoji should be given short-term planning while Johan should be given long-term planning. Ayanokoji is more observant and is able to intuitively come up with a plan based on achieving the best outcome. Johan, however, basically planned the entire series. Though his feats are mostly offscreen, he was able to predict everything from his childhood to his "perfect suicide". Hell, I would oppose the claim put forward by many Monster fans that Johan can exist realistically, because his intuition and planning is simply unrealistic(no hate btw, I love both COTE and Monster).
@gikara_5646
@gikara_5646 Жыл бұрын
@@primeroyal7434 ah I see. I simply dropped monster at ep 20 because shi got too boring and unbearable for me. Do you recommend that I should pick it up again?
@MLBBIndian
@MLBBIndian Жыл бұрын
Bro spilling facts
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Жыл бұрын
Yep lol👏
@LordYamauchi
@LordYamauchi Жыл бұрын
W Video. Johan is overestimated. He wasn't meant to be an intelligent. People mistakes his ruthlessness for his smartness.
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Fax
@Terakomari_7
@Terakomari_7 Жыл бұрын
No johan win
@KokoroSlay
@KokoroSlay Жыл бұрын
Miiii, after all, Johan may not be smart, but he is cruel, but he was able to outsmart all of Japan. I agree that Koji will win, but Johan is smart too.
@darrland7432
@darrland7432 6 ай бұрын
​@@KokoroSlay**Germany
@user-pr6eb4he9p
@user-pr6eb4he9p Жыл бұрын
Iq is ayanokoji Ayanokoji have 281 iq and johan have 250 iq so ayanokoji win in iq
@jaythagoat3699
@jaythagoat3699 Жыл бұрын
You are so smart holy shit
@malife2471
@malife2471 Жыл бұрын
Idc Johan still more well written More realistic and overall one of the most well written characters in anime Ayanokoji must be smart or shit But he ain’t as realistic and great as Johan
@Mango1234-k1u
@Mango1234-k1u Жыл бұрын
He is overall better tho😅
@nazwa2587
@nazwa2587 Жыл бұрын
​@@Mango1234-k1u ayanokoji was created to be op. Johan does not. But Imo Johan is better as character.
@LevMynskin
@LevMynskin Жыл бұрын
Bro Koji is literally more realistic than Johan idk what are you talking about. In stop scaling, which considers only on-screen feats and realistic statements, for example in-depth analysis into the characters' strategies, Koji is far far superior. Johan has great feats, but they are all off-screen and never explored, you cannot call that more realistic than Kojo's manipulation and strategies that were actually showcased and detailed thoroughly in the Light novel.
@malife2471
@malife2471 Жыл бұрын
@@LevMynskin that’s the point. yk why most of Yohan’s feats are off cam right?. It’s because the writer can portray such a realistic monster He tried to show an example of it by creating the Richard scene Yohan is a monster Monster is the most beautiful and well written anime to ever exist with Yohan being the most well written character of all time
@malife2471
@malife2471 Жыл бұрын
@@LevMynskin monster is the most realistic anime it’s not an anime for some cringe teens. As much as I hate ayonokoji tards I don’t hate the writer cuz his main target audience is teens after all.
@144_The_Sheep
@144_The_Sheep Жыл бұрын
Its like An AI vs Natural Human. Since Ayanokoji was the product of The White Room.
@hiddenside6916
@hiddenside6916 Жыл бұрын
Big W edit 😎
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@TheSneakRoy
@TheSneakRoy Жыл бұрын
Song please
@anuamba
@anuamba Жыл бұрын
Bro you off beat edit is KILLIN ME
@tasinrahman7917
@tasinrahman7917 Жыл бұрын
neither koji isnt perfect human there's neither written on ln or anime but johan is perfect human and nameless monster marvels dc are not good at graphics but they do makes better story lines and better sense u have long way to go kid that koji is only 16 even an local army or rab is better than there's no way 16 so now u realize
@lieberte
@lieberte Жыл бұрын
I prefer Johan but like Ayo too. This video is fax
@karma4153
@karma4153 Жыл бұрын
next: ayanokoji vs mikey What do you think?
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Good idea, after uploading the Akira vs Yokoya video, I will make the video you said.
@Kirbs2830
@Kirbs2830 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx ♡
@crirgoat2890
@crirgoat2890 Жыл бұрын
Chads Who Know:- BIG W Btw
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@monad484
@monad484 Жыл бұрын
bro is got manipulation for ayanokoji jsut to make a war to collect some information from johan 💀
@kr1tex350
@kr1tex350 Жыл бұрын
My respects , bro W edit…..
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@NexenTriz
@NexenTriz Жыл бұрын
Where'd you get all these categories and what they mean?
@yuno11231
@yuno11231 Жыл бұрын
Ayanokoji is only 17 years old imagine adult vr
@moonrider1834
@moonrider1834 Жыл бұрын
Fire edit but overall winner is Johan And Johan is a trained soldier, the combat against him low-mid diff not negative
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
thx Johan didn't have time to be a super soldier. and Ayanokoji is supersonic level. He can kill Johan in one hit
@N-Ice_
@N-Ice_ Жыл бұрын
Johan didn't show even Peak Human lvl feats, so no. He also was kept under sleeping drugs as a kid so be didn't train for it, and he escaped soon after his immunity system worked and got him immune to sleeping drugs. So no he didn't even train much if at all for it + no feats
@schnee4108
@schnee4108 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai i don't remember Ayanokoji being supersonic
@corozon
@corozon Жыл бұрын
@@schnee4108ichika blitz
@moonrider1834
@moonrider1834 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai I think you're overestimating saying he's supersonic, yes in a fight he'll kill Johan but it won't be one or two hits for him
@EmmanuelEntera
@EmmanuelEntera Ай бұрын
Writers in Classrooms of elites:Fanboy Kind writer Monster:Mysterious killer,Mentally torturing.
@walidb925
@walidb925 Жыл бұрын
What is this song name
@Noob15caixasdeabacaxi16
@Noob15caixasdeabacaxi16 Жыл бұрын
Esse vídeo pegou fogo Muito bom
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx ❤️‍🔥
@Johansolos
@Johansolos Жыл бұрын
I agree 👍
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Жыл бұрын
Agreed too😀
@FlyAchX
@FlyAchX Жыл бұрын
Combat : Johann high diff Johan is grimmer level in combat Outsmarting: ayonokoji high diff Common world: Johann high diff Manipulation: Johan low diff With inf: Johan low-mid diff Overall: Johann mid diff (Also Johan takes direct manip and all manipulation possible he is manipulation himself)
@halilefeucak9518
@halilefeucak9518 Жыл бұрын
Combat johan?
@N1GG4T1V3
@N1GG4T1V3 Жыл бұрын
Where do you get that Johan is on par with Grimmer in combat? Dude, Johan is really fragile physically. Not for nothing, their highest rated commoner was Roberto, a mountain of brute force. The only thing that Johan gets away with in the physical aspect is resistance/resilience... My bro withstood two direct bullets to the head ☠️
@halilefeucak9518
@halilefeucak9518 Жыл бұрын
9 years old koji >> johan on combat
@N1GG4T1V3
@N1GG4T1V3 Жыл бұрын
@@halilefeucak9518 Maybe
@FlyAchX
@FlyAchX Жыл бұрын
@@halilefeucak9518 kid Johan > kid Koji in combat mid diff
@YagamiTakuyall
@YagamiTakuyall Жыл бұрын
Do franz bonaparta aka the one who created the monster vs ayanokoji kiyotaka
@partyvietnamcommunist4829
@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Жыл бұрын
Franz is Johan victim wtf?
@jasonmatt6081
@jasonmatt6081 Жыл бұрын
*Physical feats join the chat* *Johan left the chat* *Social skill join the chat* *Koji left the chat*
@FlyAchX
@FlyAchX Жыл бұрын
Johann have grimmer level combat skills Johan takes that high diff
@evanasultana9612
@evanasultana9612 Жыл бұрын
Johan killed inspector zeman and another secret Czechoslovakian police by beating them
@LevMynskin
@LevMynskin Жыл бұрын
@@evanasultana9612 Koji has also beaten 6 professional martial artists and broken their bones easily at the age of 9. He beaten Shiba and Tsukihiro who were literally punching at the speed of sound, without any effort. What matters more is the technique and skill in fight, raw strength can be easily countered, and Koji has mastered a lot of martial arts and also has greater understanding with weapons.
@domipoookie
@domipoookie Жыл бұрын
in a real life situation goes to johan overall johan > mid - high diff
@somerandomguy4216
@somerandomguy4216 Жыл бұрын
No
@domipoookie
@domipoookie Жыл бұрын
@@somerandomguy4216if it was real life johan with his influence has many different countries in his arsenal, this includes armies, hitmen etc
@cha0tic.fa1e
@cha0tic.fa1e Жыл бұрын
@@domipoookie bro what u r even talking about? we r rating them in a real life situation not in their verses
@akmalhussain6807
@akmalhussain6807 Жыл бұрын
@@domipoookie RLS means no canon influence
@_H1M_81
@_H1M_81 Жыл бұрын
Both have the demonic mindset Btw Best J vs AK video ever 😘
@itznav_sin
@itznav_sin 19 күн бұрын
There should definitely be a lot of changes, problem solving should go to koji and intuition should go to Johan
@naufalgilangaltafa1588
@naufalgilangaltafa1588 Жыл бұрын
Name song?
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Bones dxrk
@Manabu10
@Manabu10 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion: Physical + combat - Ayanokoji neg diff Intellect - Ayanokoji high diff Outsmarting (FS) - Ayanokoji very high - extreme diff Outsmarting (NFS) - Johan high diff Manipulation - Johan low-mid diff IRL (from scratch) - Ayanokoji extreme diff IRL (with influence) - Johan mid diff Overall: Ayanokoji high-very high diff(by feats) A lot of people think, that Johan >>> Ayanokoji, but after Volume 0, Ayanokoji FP >> Johan FP mid diff. We only see 40-50%(or even less) of Ayanokoji's abilities. Also, after Volume 0 Ayanokoji can on the Moriarty level... But Moriarty high diff > FP Ayanokoji
@revan_ryuzaki
@revan_ryuzaki Жыл бұрын
Predictions,intuition,planning,anticipation go to johan
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
Predictions no, intuition no he maybe gets insight, planning no ayanokoji's plans never fails, anticipation no ayanokoji imagined a that he thought would happen just by watching 2 people have an interaction with exact details, I'm not taking anything away from Johan but this guy is walking no fail genius
@revan_ryuzaki
@revan_ryuzaki Жыл бұрын
@@Etheldreda20 Johan predicts world domination at the age of 11 and plans well, especially saving his 1 orphanage friend and returning Robert's 1 memory So prediction+planning go to johan For intuition Johan has the intuition to follow and kill the inspector who is trying to kill the grimmer and take the cassette tapes of Johan's childhood For anticipation Johan always prepares a lot of anticipation such as always carrying a gun and killing "the baby" first before killing piter capek and getting a location from Bonaparta Overall prediction,planning,intuition and anticipation Johan > koji
@Ylivisky
@Ylivisky Жыл бұрын
factssss
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@xjay1167
@xjay1167 Жыл бұрын
Faxx
@dhruvchahar5939
@dhruvchahar5939 Жыл бұрын
Ayanotards at their best
@somerandomguy4216
@somerandomguy4216 Жыл бұрын
Eh imo this video fax
@watashinonawakirayoshikage7140
@watashinonawakirayoshikage7140 Жыл бұрын
Fax bro
@cha0tic.fa1e
@cha0tic.fa1e Жыл бұрын
Johantard at his best can only do this
@purabigogoi8898
@purabigogoi8898 Жыл бұрын
I think talent should go to Johan since he was actually talented. Koji 's whole character is about how in right conditions ( white room) even a talentless average human can surpass the greatest genuise in history. He doesn't have talent, he is just a hard worker
@GGelix
@GGelix Жыл бұрын
False, have you not read? He was born a genius plus with hard work thats why he was the sole survivor in his generation and every other wr students look up to him like a god. I don't think that's pure hard work. It's in his DNA to be god damn smart and strong plus help of wr he is perfection
@Yue_OoO
@Yue_OoO Жыл бұрын
@@GGelix he's born being a genius in adaptability (first training in white room,he got some losses but he adapts quickly and got high win streaks)...He has also a perfect memory...
@animeshorts_yt_1979
@animeshorts_yt_1979 Жыл бұрын
God edit
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@blank_4594
@blank_4594 Жыл бұрын
W edit
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@Александр-д7х7ы
@Александр-д7х7ы Жыл бұрын
Woah man you do really cool full scale battles, high iq
@tasinrahman7917
@tasinrahman7917 Жыл бұрын
Where's the proves Ayanokoji is only better at fighting Johan has real brain 🧠
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
I gave you credit for watching anime on youtube shorts
@tasinrahman7917
@tasinrahman7917 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai bto what the fun Am I that stupid I watched 800+ anime Even dc marvels And there's so many characters that can win diff If u really scaled koji U may notice That he know all martials arts is the biggest lie I was also fan of him but I was foolish Now I'm awaken And white room is not actually that affective than meditation Even yagami light is better manipulator than him L can beat cote neg diff He stopped world at age 8 And light how smartly killed him Cote is normal as local school S1 was normal s2 was even worse I truly hate him Also i hate saitama Goku>saitama neg diff
@tasinrahman7917
@tasinrahman7917 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai even spider is more smarter He can beat stronger then him He is true chad Even manipulation
@tasinrahman7917
@tasinrahman7917 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai look if u prove me wrong here i will apologize So make another video with proves
@somerandomguy4216
@somerandomguy4216 Жыл бұрын
​@@tasinrahman7917 who even said he knows all martial arts
@anonymousgamer5986
@anonymousgamer5986 Жыл бұрын
Song name
@excitement-
@excitement- Жыл бұрын
Anticipation & Prediction goes to Johan and rest are Faxx W edit 🍷
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx
@pwfrs2770
@pwfrs2770 Жыл бұрын
u might forget the fact that there is nothing that will stop johan not even inner morals or any feelings he will get what he want in someway or another doesnt matter what way.
@Bic-daxc69
@Bic-daxc69 Жыл бұрын
Ayanokoji has said the same thing people are tools in this world winning g is everything it doesn't matter what needs to be sacrificed and then he said he was going to win
@fatality8914
@fatality8914 Жыл бұрын
Planning anticipation intuition and all manipulation category goes to Johan Johan Outsmart Extreme diff and overall low mid diff
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Жыл бұрын
Only Anticipation and intuition Goes to johan I think In life situation Johan Easily win because of his Influence Outsmarting:Idk But i think Ayanokoji:High-Extream diff Like The Video 👏👍
@QuinnEnjoyerOfDeezNuts
@QuinnEnjoyerOfDeezNuts Жыл бұрын
Johan has better manipulation, EQ, influence, and almost all subjective matters. But Ayano is more advanced because he function like a perfect robot, but with superhuman intelligence and intuition.
@raiko6734
@raiko6734 Жыл бұрын
when will the ayanokoji riding end..? why is it hard to accept that Johan is just better then him in every way possible.??
@GGelix
@GGelix Жыл бұрын
In every way possible? Nice one.. you are terrible at debating
@Mango1234-k1u
@Mango1234-k1u Жыл бұрын
Johan fan boi spotted. He is overrated as fuck.
@legendsparda404
@legendsparda404 Жыл бұрын
Cap , Johan fanboy
@Ichika_13
@Ichika_13 Жыл бұрын
Bro didn't even understand a single category in the video so decided to spit nonsense 🤓
@KStheArtist25
@KStheArtist25 Жыл бұрын
Johan is smart but never really fought anyone… he shot people tho too I expected and that is kinda scary to think that he would shoot him in a moment at anytime
@JamesPauI
@JamesPauI Жыл бұрын
W. Respect
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
🔥
@smitachowdhury8631
@smitachowdhury8631 Жыл бұрын
I dont give a damn about feats and facts johan would mindfrick that high school kid anyway...why you ask? Because he is my fav mindfrick character
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
So you are basically saying it doesn't matter if ayanokoji's feats are better Johan is still the winner because he is your favorite character? Well that's delusional but that's on you
@Hatak_ekakashi15
@Hatak_ekakashi15 Жыл бұрын
@@Etheldreda20 kyoji doesn't have a feat close to Johan
@nitinkushwaha9079
@nitinkushwaha9079 Жыл бұрын
@@Hatak_ekakashi15 kushida also have same backstory like Johan let koji alone
@Ichika_13
@Ichika_13 Жыл бұрын
Kushida = Johan since both of them manipulated and made people kill themselves when they were child according to midhan fangirls logic 🤓
@ramuroyals4487
@ramuroyals4487 5 ай бұрын
Kenzo tenma >>> ayanokoji
@nihilisticboi3520
@nihilisticboi3520 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how low ayanotards can go. It doesn't even make sense to compare Ayanokoji to Johan. One manipulates smart school students while the other controls the whole European continent. Johan absolutely neggs Ayanokoji. The only reason y'all irrationally support Ayanokoji is because he's that stoic "cool sigma" character y'all wished to be like at high school but couldn't be.
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
You humiliated them a lot we hahaha
@_spit_all_fax_
@_spit_all_fax_ Жыл бұрын
Your opinion is so illogical. You are say about his influence and manipulation overall, but it is debate on the human being factor's, not social factor's, and in 1 on 1 Johan influence and manipulation dont make sense, koji will just kill him in fight, and in this situation, you still gonna say "lol, johan will just control Europe army to kill koji" or some shit like this, didn't you?
@Cassian718
@Cassian718 Жыл бұрын
Bro,the line u said at the end js quite true,i wanted to become that cool sigma but can't,this is the thing i like about ayanokoji the most
@nihilisticboi3520
@nihilisticboi3520 Жыл бұрын
@@_spit_all_fax_ no, johan would just shoot Ayanokoji. Simple as it is.
@_spit_all_fax_
@_spit_all_fax_ Жыл бұрын
@@nihilisticboi3520 oh , bravo, 👏 very smart argument
@Anicraftgamer
@Anicraftgamer Жыл бұрын
Aynokoji is a legend
@Daniel_172.
@Daniel_172. Жыл бұрын
Yes
@FlyAchX
@FlyAchX Жыл бұрын
What ayonokoji? Oh the mosquito one?
@mbuszka5295
@mbuszka5295 Жыл бұрын
I don't know, if Johan will lose MULTILINGUALISM. Best example is reading original books in OLD LANGUAGES. 🤔
@NameForgotten828
@NameForgotten828 Жыл бұрын
Lmao i hope you're joking
@somerandomguy4216
@somerandomguy4216 Жыл бұрын
Whut
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
This would be my scale both koji and johan:
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
Physical Stats: Strength:koji, speed:koji, durability:koji, agility:koji, stamina:koji, defense:koji, battle iq:koji, ap:koji, technique:koji, combat experience:johan
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
IQ: AWMI=johan, CPI=koji, WISC= johan, GAI= koji>=, NVI=koji, DSI=koji, IRP=equals, VSI=koji>=, VCI=johan>=, FSIQ=koji, FRI=koji, WMI=koji, QRI=koji
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
Intellect: Verbal linguistics, kinesthetic=equals, arithmetic logic and mathematical logic=koji, interpersonal and intrapersonal=johan, emotional and existential=johan, spatial visual=koji>=, depth and complexity=johan, Cunning=johan, observation and conclusions=koji, tactics and strategies=koji, Persuasion=johan, musical int=koji, naturalistic=koji, crystallized int=koji, natural int=johan, flowing int=same, general int=johan
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
EQ: Self-awareness=johan, social awareness=johan, social ability=johan, social achievements=johan, empathy=johan, self-management=johan, self-regulation=johan, emotional control=johan, emotional strength and/or resistance=johan, emotional performance ( when I fake cry with Karl), see through people=johan, human psyche=johan, Emotional heatstroke=johan
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
Manipulation: Individual manipulation=same, pure manipulation=johan, mass manipulation=johan, direct manipulation=same, indirect manipulation=johan, deception=johan, emotional manipulation=johan, effective manipulation=johan, Intuition=koji, Social intuition=johan, influence external=koji (referring that has his father and uses him), general influence=johan, tolerance=equals, methods=johan, battle iq=equals (in manipulation)
@haru_12
@haru_12 Жыл бұрын
by comparing Johan with Ayano, is the only way to make Ayano look great and cool🤣
@DarkKouji
@DarkKouji Жыл бұрын
Win🔥🔥 They all give planning to johan idk why Koji planning is better imo
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Yep🔥
@Monicayadav_55
@Monicayadav_55 Жыл бұрын
Dude literally created a massacre in the town wdym 💀 his plan was so flawless that he almost completed it unless that drunken bastard came Any feats of ayano getting planning Johan's planning feats are menacing of him becoming anna predicted the actions of even the cops and tenma His plans were so clean that literally he was like a non existing being like an imagination to other people
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
@@Monicayadav_55 drunken Bastard came? So his plan failed didn't it?
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
@@Monicayadav_55 and ayanokoji's plans never failed by your Logic ayanokoji should get planning
@Etheldreda20
@Etheldreda20 Жыл бұрын
@@Monicayadav_55 ayanokoji so many times predicted what would happen with exact details and goes what it happened
@eyesack3606
@eyesack3606 Жыл бұрын
Me a 270 IQ rocket scientist: But can he beat goku? 🤪
@Daniel_172.
@Daniel_172. Жыл бұрын
No Goku solo😏
@arjitmishra312
@arjitmishra312 Жыл бұрын
😵‍💫 i never heard these words
@mtg1574
@mtg1574 Жыл бұрын
Ayanokoji win but not extreme diff
@upper_moon1727
@upper_moon1727 Жыл бұрын
I get U love Ayanokoji and all but in a common world this world we live in Johan would without a doubt DESTROY Ayanokoji and u know it, he could find and kill Ayanokoji within 1 week, his methods r more realistic and suited for real life u think Ayanokoji risking getting expelled for manipulating and seeing through some 15 year old who is above avarage smart is something Johan risks his life, he actually manipulates countries and actually kills people
@a.........g.........g5217
@a.........g.........g5217 Жыл бұрын
Johan manipulated average persons while ayanokoji manipulated Japan's smartest students 🐐
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Жыл бұрын
@@a.........g.........g5217 Not Japan's students White room students💀💀💀💀
@a.........g.........g5217
@a.........g.........g5217 Жыл бұрын
@@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Ryuuen was not a whiteroom student 💀 and koji manipulated him from vol 4 to vol 7
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033
@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 Жыл бұрын
​@@a.........g.........g5217 Although that is worse, or that Johan since he was a child by himself indirectly killing all of Kinderheim 511 both children and adults ???, and they were not ordinary people they were genius levels, while Koji suffered in the white room
@akmalhussain6807
@akmalhussain6807 Жыл бұрын
@@danielmaximilianohuertalop5033 kushida basically destroyed her middle school class so basically from your own theory Kushida=Johan
@asuragaming2542
@asuragaming2542 Жыл бұрын
If linguistic Verbal goes to koji then I don't deserve to be living
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
Overall Intelligence General Intelligence intellect smartness and abductive seduction adaptability strategy methods goes to Johan bro high diff this video make my day so bad and it's cringe asf and also deductive goes to Johan. Bro don't compare a kid to a old man monster, Anticipation adaptability intuition intellect smartness persuasive and Perception method goes to Johan and the rest of it goes to ayanokoji is a well trained in whiteroom in which is a torture room and for people trained and to make status up on a different situation. Intuition and perception and intellect smartness goes to Johan is a born genius+evil monster that has a fake emotion and emotionless and linguistic Intel Planning and method goes to ayanokoji planning could go either way to Johan and in a common world Johan wins very hard diff in outsmarting ayanokoji and could go same but ayanokoji has a potential it could go to Johan very hard extreme diff and anticipation adaptability inrealife situation Johan wins low-mid diff Overall intelligence/General intelligence very hard extreme diff Manipulation low diff Ayanokoji: Combat no low diff Mind games/outsmarting low diff intelligence quotient high diff Mind ayanokoji very hard extreme diff In a common world = Overall Johan wins very insane diff Bruhh these days debates are getting deeper than deeper until you get confused and started raging some deep reasoning just straight to the conclusion already that's it and everything is complicated.
@farruxbekturgunov1718
@farruxbekturgunov1718 Жыл бұрын
Perfect man can not win the nameless monster
@GGelix
@GGelix Жыл бұрын
You're contradicting in that sentence. Perfect means perfect, no flaws or losses. So he can beat nameless monster cause he is perfect, he wouldn't be perfect if he can't win, get me?
@J071L
@J071L Жыл бұрын
Monster winner 👹 Johan Liebert 👹
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115
@mincraftcaprisegamer6115 Жыл бұрын
Cry about it
@renatoaugusto5624
@renatoaugusto5624 Жыл бұрын
Midkoji fanboy Johan >>> Kiyotaka (mid-diff)
@partyvietnamcommunist4829
@partyvietnamcommunist4829 Жыл бұрын
Midhan fangirls are here Ayanokoji >>>>> Monster verse ( Mid diff) bet you cant tell the wrong of this video
@renatoaugusto5624
@renatoaugusto5624 Жыл бұрын
@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 If you want, I can give you arguments and facts that prove that Johan wins
@snooptech2919
@snooptech2919 Жыл бұрын
@@renatoaugusto5624 prove how
@Ichika_13
@Ichika_13 Жыл бұрын
Ayanokoji >>> midhan - low diff
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
Did you just get this video from the others? Because if so imma call kyoka bladiator nexus kiyokouji axruz for help is this even a full scale outsmarting watch kiyokouji videos for more inspiration facts tensai
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
I did this myself, and Kiyokouji and I are in very different worlds. He uploaded a video of Akiyama defeating Friend in low diff.
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai he's a ayanokoji fan bro ngl watch his video from Cote tournament
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai yes it's true bro but one thing don't rush things put or labeled things clearly so all would be complicated I told you from the start the plot Is the main topic bro
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai because it's straight to the point where he already reach the conclusion you will see an explanation too but this one doesn't you way put too biased bro
@Ayanokouji01423
@Ayanokouji01423 Жыл бұрын
@@Faxsai then I'll ask bladiator to debunked this video then if you can't fix it.
@nowaystudio
@nowaystudio Жыл бұрын
your videos make sense 🤔🤔🤔
@Custom31658
@Custom31658 Жыл бұрын
We have never seen johan fight what makes u think that he can't fight or beat ayanakoji
@somerandomguy4216
@somerandomguy4216 Жыл бұрын
? Well we haven't seen the best of ayanokoji too And btw that just means Johan lacks physical feats
@ne_oxranik2
@ne_oxranik2 Жыл бұрын
You cool!
@Faxsai
@Faxsai Жыл бұрын
Thx ❤️‍🔥