Ayanokouji vs Lelouch Full Scale Comparison

[@EfficientAnce968i]

W edit and take. I am still astonished by how highly lelouch is rated despite the fact that he has showcased more anti feats than the dn verse combined.

[@Blazeinferno1000]

If you count by that Logic.Lelouch is greater then Akiyama and WJM.Which he isn't

[@Wordetto101]

What's his anti feat?

[@davidarvingumazon5024]

@@Wordetto101 Weakness, Mistakes, Blunders and Illogical.

[@Wordetto101]

@@davidarvingumazon5024 Nah he never made a blunder in his planning or strategies, he was perfect as always

[@anuragchoudhary3399]

@@Wordetto101 lol biased opinions Go re-watch code geass without asslicking u will find too many mistakes . His emotional stability was pathetic in most cases ,in s1 ending it was plot armour that saved him otherwise he would be dead ,rash decision whenever nunally involved ,want to achieve world piece but doesn't want to sacrifice his comrades purely hypocritical logic etc

[@anuragchoudhary3399]

the first time I'm seeing the most accurate comparison. and I also agree that it would be mid difficulty at most people overrating lelouch without any valid statements because lelouch most plot was defined around plot armour and lelouch way of thinking to anticipate words was not even defined correct it was total bs . while koji reasoning and anticipation was really explained well .

[@TheHuntsman1001]

While that may be true in some instances, I don’t think all of Lelouch’s strategy or reasoning feats are carried by plot. Some certainly are and can’t really be scaled well due to that fact because they lack process or explanation with what Lelouch actually did (e.g. Mao 14 abductions in a second, or Fleija feat) That being said the main basis for this take is that Ayanokouji just has significantly stronger feats in most categories in comparison.

[@X-PERMIOS]

W edit and interesting take Be ready for "COTE" savior

[@TheHuntsman1001]

“COTE Savior” 🤣

[@WanoxEdit]

W edit, probably your best edit in terms of quality

[@X_ADI_]

What's your take on this?

[@X_ADI_]

Prediction: Koji mid-high diffs(-)

[@Drtu576]

Lower diff

[@Netmsmzn]

Lmao, Lelouch mid-high diff at max

[@estevandragoon9297]

Ee, acting skills, tactical affinity, social engineering to Ayanokoji, and complete control, info control, strategy control, strategy adaptability to Lelouch. W vid

[@Bic-daxc69]

I have the diff at very high But i do agree with the cat distribution in the video W edit Sahej is voming for your family 🥶

[@jackthezodiac6136]

Nah Koji beats Lulu mid-high diff it cant really be higher than high diff

[@jackthezodiac6136]

@@FlyAchX *Ayanokoji mid-high diff (+)

[@amrwael2677]

W edit+perfect take

[@komal-lamok]

Wow. Beautiful edit and interesting take

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Thank you

[@N-Ice_]

I call Koji winning Mid-High/High Diff or something 🥶

[@nopert841]

Moon vs Koji iyo (Since you've read Dr Frost)?

[@Hariz362]

Bro will have it at mid/high diff or mid diff at this rate 🗿

[@Adeskits161]

cool edit bro

[@StephanieDolaMyWife]

W Edit and Take

[@Kohaku90]

W edit + take bro🍷

[@Vera-kd7nh]

The editing is improving with each new video 😀, it's very good. I agree with the difference. What's your opinion on Ayanokoji vs Johan?

[@TheHuntsman1001]

I plan to distribute this matchup fully at some point. I want to go through the Johan doc more thoroughly first though. As of now I have Johan around Light level (+).

[@XeroHimatzu]

I would change a lot of things Goated Edit Bro

[@Vegitooeditz]

W rest + Very good video imo and I think the diffs is higher like High Diffs

[@DrRelevant2006]

W edit The lord and savior of cote is coming for you bro

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Ofc

[@iruthutsunil9101]

Great song selection and great edit Can you plzz tell me the song...?

[@TheHuntsman1001]

The song title should be in the video description. LOWX Losted

[@Theanimetor04]

Calling it being a koji mid diff (+)

[@preetiarya5082]

U won man

[@dracyelyes8043]

W edit + take

[@SBR_2027]

Beautiful Edit! Tho I don't completely agree with some point, as in my opinion, Lelouch wins Extreme Diff overall.

[@Djihad_SCD]

W edit and opinion

[@erumakoji]

W edit

[@Y-IDC]

Watch out for Sahej 💀 W edit and take tho.

[@Dr.FyodorHal]

W edit + W takes 🍨🔥 This is not hot takes Ppl r just underrating, over hating and downplaying cote

[@NurikKaldarbek-nw2lr]

My request: Can you do Red John vs Koji in overall 🙏

[@TheHuntsman1001]

🤔

[@SerendipitousProvidence]

Gigantic W

[@Blazeinferno1000]

Bro is trying to mess with Sahej LMFAO.Nice joke.But I have no complain about the edits.My question Is Lelouch below L IYO?

[@kingharshit1160]

Imo Lulu vhigh - ext diffs(-) L canon while Ln L high diffs(+) Lulu

[@Blazeinferno1000]

@@kingharshit1160 Not bad

[@fatesplay4218]

fr W take good edit

[@facu7152]

Prediction: Koji high-very high dif

[@Siel39692]

peak What do you consider to be Lelouch's best reasoning?

[@TheHuntsman1001]

He doesn't really have one that stands out as clearly his best since he has multiple which are all good. If I had to pick his best is probably either the Lancelot Induction feat, or his abductive reasoning regarding Mao. Unfortunately for Lelouch, both are Koji victims.

[@Siel39692]

@@TheHuntsman1001 Lancelot induction I forgot the feat, may I ask for a brief description?😢

[@tienluong9648]

Prepare to be cooked🥶

[@TheHuntsman1001]

🥶

[@imhalosmh]

Very nice edit, imo koji extreme diffs

[@CrescentGazeOfCelestialNight]

W edit and take imo lelouch take some thinking cats and koji v.high diff

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Which ones?

[@CrescentGazeOfCelestialNight]

​@@TheHuntsman1001Critical thk

[@SerendipitousProvidence]

​@@CrescentGazeOfCelestialNight why

[@jackthezodiac6136]

I agree Lulu takes critical thinking. But Koji doesn’t beat Lulu “very high diff” he beats him mid-high diff

[@CrescentGazeOfCelestialNight]

@@jackthezodiac6136 lelouch strategies were impressive because of his settings

[@yourlord5270]

If Koji takes strategy, planning and manipulation against Lulu... I think Saitama negs Shiro in fsiq and in chess🗿 Nonsense,to put a simply

[@TheHuntsman1001]

😭

[@adididavidi6185]

If shiro needing help with the chess game against Tet is also in the novel then Saitama easily takes Fri and has better adaptability

[@preetiarya5082]

​@adididavidi6185 like seriously when I saw knowing all chess position than almost losing to tess then getting help from her brother than winning like seriously it's impossible to lose no matter what you do in a game when you know all chess position like seriously at the end of the game it will always end in a tie if your opponent know the position as well neither you will always win if you lose it just proves how stupid you are even thought when you know all position and right now I am not even taking about processing all of the memories of an omniscient being that lived for 8000 year shit seriously and her psi feat are above above 10^124 easily by Ln so she would be easily able to process all position she needs easily . If you argue that it is possible to lose even with knowing all position than ur also it is seen in my games such as ai bots game and best ai tournaments where player compete to see who is better and ai like and most of the games end in a draw This is not even the most funny thing about this seriously In chess you need only 10^50 position all those extra position are useless as there are only around 10^50(approx) legal chess position

[@adididavidi6185]

​@@preetiarya5082this will actually be a much funnier of an anti feat then you think it is because she actually has either rayo's number of CPI to infinite CPI lmao (if it's actually in the novel) it would literally be one of the greatest Fri anti feats in fiction (kazuya from rent a girlfriend will unironicly have better Fri lmfao)

[@preetiarya5082]

​@@adididavidi6185lol

[@davipaes8793]

Mid diff is WILD bro, don't let Sahej touch in this man

[@TheHuntsman1001]

😂

[@davipaes8793]

​@@TheHuntsman1001 I wanted ask, Which is the better Antecipation from Koji and why is it better than Conversation feat from LL? that feat is very good imo

[@aminsoussi2354]

@@davipaes8793 Koji anticipated Ryuen's every movement and the rooftop accident since volume 4, basically months in advance. This is not my interpretation but actually scans say this. Ayanokoji anticipated the entire conversation and everyone's thought process, behavioral habits and speech in volume 6 when he ordered Kei to pour juice on Kushida. Ayanokoji anticipated Kushida's downfall in Y2V5 since Y1 V9 after he formed that contract with her, as a trap to enforce her expulsion almost a year later.

[@TheHuntsman1001]

​@@davipaes8793 There are multiple instances of Ayanokouji's foresight exceeding what we see from Lelouch in his conversation feat. In fact he has a similar feat to what Lelouch, expect it is ever more impressive since he predicted the outcome of a conversation between a large group of people instead of just 1. In Y1V6 when Class D met to discuss the paper shuffle exam, Ayanokouji had ordered Kei to argue with Kushida and spill juice on her. This is because he had analyzed the personalities and tendencies of all the 6 other people there and used that information to predict exactly they would act under different circumstances. That is how he knew that by having Kei do this he would learn the information he wanted, which was whether Kushida had a spare blazer. This is confirmed by Ryuuen later in the volume when he is speaking with Kushida about this incident. He also realizes what the mastermind would have needed to do in order get such information without tipping off Kushida. Here is the conversation between Kushida and Ryuuen where he puts together what happened: "Are you trying to say that everyone there set a trap for me, and I couldn't see right through it? I'm not an idiot. I observe everyone's behavior. If they were lying to me, I definitely would've noticed." "Well, you're probably right about that. However, only one or two people at most lied to you," said Ryunen. "Huh? How would--" "If someone there read the situation perfectly, then it's likely that person deceived you. Someone who could figure out everyone's thought processes, behavioral tics, and habits. Someone who guessed what kind of remarks they'd make. Someone who could read all those things perfectly. Someone who wrote the script, so that you'd act your part in their play," said Ryuuen." Other anticipation feats such as predicting Tsukishiro's actions during the UIE or predicting the 5th question in the Unanimous Voting Exam in advance are also strong feats.

[@N-Ice_]

@@TheHuntsman1001 You can argue that through the same method he did the Vol 5 prediction, when he sent the message to Ryuen out of nowhere while starting to talk to Arisu. Which Ryuen knew is the Mastermind and he knew about what was happening there (when he tried to make Suzune grovel) Maybe Dax sent you this already as I did a sort of analysis on it. But yeah, this isn't the only time he predicts the whole conversations down to the timings

[@EvilEmperium]

can you slide the koji animation at 1:04

[@TheHuntsman1001]

The animation doesn't belong to me so I would need to ask permission to share.

[@LeonardoInsfran]

Ayanokouji extrem diffs

[@Frenzy0040]

Prediction: koji high diffs.

[@volkanuzug1824]

Who do you think gets fluid intelligence in this match up?

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Fluid Intelligence goes to Ayanokouji by a comfortable margin

[@RipSenpai2711]

I disagree with many but okay...w

[@TheHuntsman1001]

What parts do you disagree with?

[@RipSenpai2711]

@@TheHuntsman1001 direct manipulation, concealment, information control and I think lelouch has few better feats in planning as it was harder to pull off but I cant point out which of the planning categories. I have koji ext diff or very high diff.

[@TheHuntsman1001]

@@RipSenpai2711 I can explain those in some more detail. Direct Manipulation: This is likely the closest manipulation category Koji takes since Lelouch does certainly have good feats here. His manipulation of Rollo is likely his best showcase of this where he was able to flip him to his side which made acting as Zero much easier. He was able to engineer a situation where he could "save" Rollo and psychologically manipulate him to his side. While this is a very good feats such as Light manipulating Naomi Misora, it isn't enough to take from Ayanokouji. Ayanokouji has a similar kind of feat in manipulating Kei via psychological manipulation. He also engineered a situation to break her down and build her back up as his pawn. Then even more impressively, he took her from despising him for his actions to being in love with him after a short period of time. Then there are feats like getting Hirata to shift his entire personality after 1 conversation. Or getting Ichinose to overcome Nagumo's manipulations and turned her into his pawn instead through their conversation in Y1V9. Concealment: This goes to Ayanokouji and isn't particularly close. Lelouch's best feat here is from early S2 where he is able to act in his "normal" life while still working as Zero without anyone being aware that he is Zero or that his memories had returned. However, despite the fact that he was under a lot of surveillance it wasn't 24/7 and the appearance of Nunnally would have broken him without Rollo's intervention. In comparison Ayanokouji's concealment of his true nature in the WR is a much better version of Lelouch's best concealment feat. For years he was able to convince the instructors and scientists who monitored him 24/7 with cameras and medical equipment. He was able to conceal the fact that he did in fact posses normal emotions for years under these circumstances to the point where people who had been studying him since birth had no idea. So here Ayanokouji performed a better feat for a much longer period of time under more difficult circumstances and more monitoring. Information Control: Here Lelouch shown strong feats with the help of his Geass, but I don't think his Information Control is all that impressive in comparison. Most of Lelouch's feats involve levels of planning and preparation more than misdirection and fabrication. In contrast, Ayanokouji seems to spam this in his strategies all the time. Some examples are the V3 Island exam where he used false information about leaders to crush Ryuuen's strategy. Zodiac phone swap where he again used false information to win his group. His Rumor Mail tactic in V6 is an incredibly impressive display of this allowing him to disrupt Ryuuen and Kanzaki's alliance, and gain control of Ichinose himself via the fake letter. We see this more in his Rumor strike in V9, his manipulation of the class poll, and many others. If you have specific questions about the strategy or planning categories let me know. However, based on how thoroughly Ayanokouji seems to gap Lelouch in most of the major categories I feel like Mid Diff (+) is the right diff. Before working to fully analyze Ayanokouji I also had this diff much higher. I used to have either Koji > LL Extremely High Diff or CGEW, but the more I have seen the full analysis and scope of Ayanokouji's feats I can no longer consider this matchup close.

[@whiteofc]

​@@TheHuntsman1001A question. Shouldn't Ayanokoji take acting skills as well?

[@TheHuntsman1001]

@@whiteofc The argument exists for sure, but I do hold Lelouch’s acting in high regard as well.

[@0001Mxrcel]

hot take bro..

[@Hariz362]

For me,he always do that ngl 🗿

[@SnowxDayZ]

Wow I'm hella late can you slide the red ayanokoji animation

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Which one?

[@SnowxDayZ]

1:03 ​@@TheHuntsman1001

[@TheHuntsman1001]

@@SnowxDayZ Message me on discord. @TheHuntsman1001

[@Masterpiece078]

Prediction: koji mid High diff

[@kevinfarruku4296]

The biggest kojimeatrider i have ever seen😂 Lelouch mid-high diff at max

[@TheHuntsman1001]

I obviously disagree, I can't imagine Lelouch winning at this point and saying he takes this Mid/High just seems unlikely.

[@partyvietnamcommunist4829]

If you disagree then debate him, dont bark like a baby

[@szewc-0]

He is meatrider for sure but at least has good arguments based on docs

[@TheHuntsman1001]

I realize I may seem like a COTE meatrider but that is because working on analyzing and scaling the series has made me realize just how underrated the verse is. Know that I can defend every one of my takes based on feats and analysis from the LNs.

[@SerendipitousProvidence]

​@@szewc-0 could you explain why Koji takes planning and EQ?

[@Blue_John]

Lelouch mid diffs at best

[@EvilEmperium]

Crazy ass take, w edit tho

[@jackthezodiac6136]

Nah the take is valid

[@xhxhdhcxhshsiz216]

W video

[@half_demon2091]

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[@TheHuntsman1001]

I don't know half of these lol

[@XorPaw_Edits]

calling kiyo high diff

[@Avery_casyrdark]

Prediction: koji high dif (-)

[@Stormzstepsis]

Prediction: Koji neg diffs

[@Stellan_x]

idk i have only read till vol 8 🥲

[@TheHuntsman1001]

You should continue, COTE LN is fantastic.

[@ImPikuu]

@@TheHuntsman1001 idk dude I kinda got bored at y2 v3 and dropped it. Legit half of it was them walking around and I get it's the island exam but still kinda boring.

[@partyvietnamcommunist4829]

W scaling

[@Userizekai123]

Lelouch is the 🐐

[@Stardust62o12]

But not even a perfect human can win against geass 😂😂😂😂😂

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Geass means nothing in terms of outsmarting ability. It doesn’t make Lelouch smarter.

[@Stardust62o12]

@@TheHuntsman1001 I know it doesn't make lelouse smart but it's make lelouse stronger in fight because he can manipulate the opponent.

[@endy3928]

@@Stardust62o12 Geass doesn't make him stronger in a fight, it's just an ability he got. Ayanokoji can easily perception blitz Lelouch before he can look him in the eyes.

[@Stardust62o12]

Dame if this does not work than lelouse enter the chat with his Mecha. Lelouse wins

[@jackthezodiac6136]

@@Stardust62o12we’re not debating about who’s “stronger in a fight”, were debating about who would win in an outsmarting battle

[@whoknowswhat1492]

💀🙏🏻

[@Aki_Observer]

W

[@vp.fl3x]

lelouch takes it

[@TheHuntsman1001]

Takes what? Imo Lelouch doesn’t take anything I gave to Ayanokouji.

[@lawanimeshorts]

W