Aziz Ansari Accused Of Sexual Assault: Are The Charges Fair?

[@CombativeMedic]

Regret is NOT rape. A bad date is NOT rape. Stop mixing this shit up. As someone who has been assaulted, it pisses me off.

[@ryancarroll4852]

This is like going up to someone who escaped the Twin Towers as they were under attack and saying "I had traumatic times during a terrorist situation too, a guy once yelled allah uh akbar at me!"

[@NBA_Z0]

WRONG! You’re mansplaining

[@ryancarroll4852]

Mansplaining seems to be saying anything these fanatics disagree with

[@edwardbernayse6665]

@--- what joke? are you being sarcastic?

[@vee5401]

As a women who has been in many situations just like this, I completely agree with Ana. I am not a victim and neither is this “Grace”. She has tainted this important movement. It’s a shame. My heart goes out to Aziz.

[@da96103]

If Aziz ordered red wine, none of this would have happened.

[@IgnarHusky]

da96103 Butterfly Effect?

[@GhostlyJorg]

The animal!"

[@isaacfrost9250]

She said stop, he stopped. Yep, sounds like rape to me.

[@durodesduvo8424]

Ana makes the point that it was outrageous for that lady to “expose” Aziz while keeping her identity concealed, potentially ruining his career over nothing. I couldn’t agree more with Ana, and thats refreshing, it’s been months.

[@ryancarroll4852]

It should be illegal to accuse someone of a criminal offense from behind anonymity. In fact it should be part of the slander/libel laws that you can't accuse someone of a crime (at all) unless you file a police report and accuse them in front of a judge and jury, if it's outside the statute of limitations too bad!

[@ryancarroll4852]

Then the same law would shut him up. It's not right to be able to destroy careers like this. It's really a sign of how serious some (SOME SOME SOME) of these supposed assaults are that people are posting them on twitter and blogs instead of actually filing a police report

[@TheDiesel]

Sounds like a woman who wants a man to read her mind. When she said no he stopped. He even called her a cab.

[@Ostnizdasht206]

The dudes not a mind reader. How would he know she wanted to have her hair played with to calm her when she avoided his advances the whole night? Ladies, WE ARE NOT TELEPATHS.

[@IBBMS]

You don't have to be a mind reader, which is probably why it's best to ask your partner. No means no and yes mean yes. She could've been more forthright and said no emphatically and he couldn've been the same and waited for her to say yes emphatically. None of these things happened, which makes this ordeal very murky for me. I lean more toward her side, but I keep finding myself going back and forth.

[@IgnarHusky]

I genuinely don't wanna go find a date cause I dont even know what's consensual or not. If "Hey, I think you're cute with those boots," is suddenly sexual harrassment, how am I supposed to converse woth women with an intention with a relationship or even a fun fling we can have together? I had more fun in high school before these SJW crazes and now I'm in college and it's just.. anxious to continue a conversation intended to flirt a little. Maybe I just need more time in my classes to know everyone, but shit man, this radical feminist wave is hard for men who are First/Second wave Feminists(like me) who actually are genuine about how they feel about women and their rights to their bodies and freedoms like men should. We're equals, as in we're humans. However, there is a strong social divide in "gender roles" in today's society that's needs to be countered with Progressive values. Because these people arent Progressive. They're Regressive.

[@Thunder-xj3xx]

Rape and Sexual assault is complex. If body language is repeatedly giving you indications that they are uncomfortable, then you should discontinue what you are doing. It's pretty easy to tell how a person feels before, during & after sex. With Aziz, it just seems like he didn't give a shit and thought he would get away with it....Just like everyone else in RapeyWood.

[@IBBMS]

Blackbeard Thank, someone with sense. Not to mention she told him to slow down at several moments and he would shove his fingers in her mouth two minutes later and she details him chasing her around the kitchen for 30 minutes (things Ana conveniently left out). This situation is nuanced, but it's pretty clear he was acting in a sexually predatory way.

[@SamNasab]

Can I reply to your comment Storm Bey?

[@mcamurray]

If that date was the worst night of Grace's life, she's lived a great life.

[@chayan1456]

+Jae Jinn she os 23, working in a world of huge success , to go there ppl have to spend a lofetime, some ppl jist don't appreciate the hard work it takes to het into thay world, specially who didn't work hard for that

[@vrajeshrawal9092]

Booom!

[@harmdizzle1979]

This girl sounds like a nut. He acted completely appropriately. She said no, he stopped. I'm super proud of this guy. She really thought he could read her mind??! You don't get to say me too. This is a slap in the face to real victims.

[@suzannebennett8987]

This was not sexual assault. It was an awkward, confusing date.

[@zachcouch1987]

She went on a date with him, then he paid, she chose to go back to his apartment. He make a move she shut him down. He stopped. No violence No assault No rape. Asis you are fine. This will not destroy his career.

[@gilbertrosa7330]

Zach Couch because of this I will encourage many people to support Aziz

[@kukuhpringgo]

and more than once.

[@mekamalice9698]

It people like "grace" who cause real survivors of sexual assault to be interrogated and doubted. I cannot. It sickens me.

[@muserussell2377]

Meka Malice i agree its horrible

[@HaeravonFAQs]

Man: "I want to have sex." Feminist: "I don't want to have sex." Feminist: "Worst day of my life! It was practically rape! I didn't even get the kind of wine I wanted!"

[@jacksprat418-ju5qo]

This hurts the metoo movement. Shame on this woman.

[@hugoarcada]

No it doesn't, it just shows what a great part of it is: An often unjustifiable abuse of the individuals by media, bypassing jurisprudence in favor of going directly to punishment. Shame on the "movement". Use the legal ways.

[@decentman1230]

Most of these metoo stories are either of these two categories: 1. Young woman making shit up for financial gain. (that's the deal with mr Ansari) 2. Old hag reminiscing an age-old "incident" because she's pissed of for not getting any attention from men anymore because she's old and ugly.

[@Arakox]

if you think mumbling is a reasonable way of communicating you shouldn't be going to men's apartments by yourself, get a care taker

[@Deb.-on9ep]

I'm gonna cut to the chase. I'm female and I'm listening to all of this. AZIZ DID NOT SEXUALLY HARASS THIS WOMAN. AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO HIM. THIS IS SO DISGUSTING WHEN WOMEN ARE ACTUALLY SEXUALLY HARASSED AND HAVE BEEN RAPED OR NEARLY RAPED. THIS IS NOT THE CASE HERE! AND THIS IS FROM SOMEONE WHO WAS HARASSED AND ALMOST RAPED!

[@gregb869]

If that is the worst night of your life, you have lived a very privileged life

[@edwardbernayse6665]

and a lucky life. that is what i was thinking.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

i guess she's never had any relatives die or have a cancer scare yet. if her name ever comes out to the public than i'll bet that day will top the one that she described 1 million fold. lol

[@H3xx99]

First off, I don't like Aziz. He's a shit comedian who doesn't make me laugh. That said, he didn't do anything wrong here. He followed the rules. He stopped when she said no. Ladies, No means No. Mumble Mumble does Not mean No. It doesn't necessarily mean yes either, but it doesn't mean no. You're a grown ass adult, use your big person words if you're uncomfortable. You're not going to hurt anyone's feelings if you're not up to it.

[@Clouden3]

This is how you destroy a positive movement. Stupid nonsensical allegations that'll ruin women's credibility.

[@Arun-nv8zi]

"No means no." This is what guys have been taught. She said "no" and he stopped. End of story. Men are not mind readers or body language experts.

[@joeyg283]

100% on Aziz Ansari's side.

[@Fifth.Amendment]

This woman wanted him to romance her and he didn't. Since, she didn't have the date she imagined, she was disappointed, and her feelings were hurt. Sorry Grace, all dates are not like what's in those romance novels. If you want something, ask. If you don't want a sexual advance, reject it! It's not that hard; use your words! If you don't know how to speak your mind around a man, maybe you shouldn't be dating, yet.

[@freakenjew]

i think you nailed it on the head. she wanted to be treated like a more important person than she was when aziz probably just wanted to nut. hence why she said "all guys are the same" because shes probably a super shallow person and the only men that are interested in her are men that wanna nut.

[@Fifth.Amendment]

bob zimbobway Exactly! She had expectations in her mind that he didn't live up to. I just can't believe people are defending her nonsense as if he did something other than give her a disappointing experience.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

the fact that she was thinking that it was "sexual assault" shows what a shallow person she is. that is just plain stupidity.

[@Julietjeske]

Cenk Uygur put it perfectly when he said "When you say no he puts on his clothes and he stops. If that guy is equally as guilty as the man who doesn't. Well then you've diminished what rape and sexual assault means and you've done great damage to the movement."

[@marleyj7711]

Juliet Jeske Well said!!!

[@SLYKM]

Juliet Jeske he didn't stop when they put clothes on, so no, no, and nope

[@SLYKM]

Dee’s World Lol He suggested they put on clothes after she said "i really dont want to do it," then after they were clothed on the couch he still tried to kiss her, put fingers down throat, and undo her pants. Please read the article before being a dumb bitch in my direction, please. Xp

[@Julietjeske]

She gave oral sex the second time AFTER she told him to "slow down" she never actually said NO. It's her prerogative of course to give him as much oral sex as she wanted, but it would definitely confuse a guy he's hearing slow down, and then she gives him oral sex again. He acted like a jerk here don't get me wrong but she also gave him incredibly mixed signals. When she finally him a hard and firm "I want to go home now" he called her a cab and let her go. A rapist wouldn't do that. In an actual sexual assault nothing she said would matter. I've been attacked. I said no 50 times it didn't mean anything.

[@Julietjeske]

Dee’s World there is no reason to make a personal attack against anyone in this thread. That’s not how we get anywhere.

[@BackwardAssassin]

Credit where credit is due, I think TYT did really well with this story.

[@relproxy2079]

is she equally unaware that going to a guys house after a date is a nonverbal cue that you are interested intimately?

[@crozraven]

This is beyond ridiculous, there is nothing that remotely assaulting in this situation. This is a non issue & the woman probably just an attention seeker. Made me wonder for the future that people need to make/sign contracts before dating someone.

[@comablack4691]

Floyd Mayweather already does that lol

[@offchance789]

The fact she supplied so many details were included in the story is a telling sign of sensationalism.

[@tomaytoez]

there’s a difference between actual sexual assault and bad sex

[@jinhyun1]

i am grill You've hit the nail on the head. This chick sat down naked just next to the couch expecting him to play with her hair, rub her shoulders. She wanted sex, just to take it slow, and he didn't. That's not even mismatched intentions, it's mismatched expectations. As you say it's a bad sexual experience, not a forced sexual experience. And to ruin a guy's career over it is criminal.

[@jaedizzle9745]

jinhyun1 what kind of grill are you?

[@jinhyun1]

Jae • Mike Tyson grill!(Look up the old MadTV clip 😀)

[@bobrolander4344]

We can actually be lucky for this special case to shine some light into an otherwise very grey area!

[@dawna1214]

She sounds like a immature child. I hope that man can recover his career!

[@hugoarcada]

And I hope it is a kill. That bullshit made up "movement" has shown his true colors. If the super liberal dream boy Aziz is a victim of the crazy left, so much better. He did nothing wrong, besides apologizing for something he did't do. that was his mistake, and if it costs him his career, so be it.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

everybody seems to be siding with him so i would imagine he will. still that does sound really embarrassing to go through. i suppose it could've been worse and she could've made up a story that would've been real sexual assault or rape if it had been true and then......

[@rangel2001]

+Diego M. Rodriguez.. Why are you making this political? I don't get it.

[@hugoarcada]

J Rangel I think it is. I'm a forensic doctor, and I deal on a daily basis with the unfortunate consequences of the unchecked power trips of many deranged individuals and organizations. Anzari is innocent by all accounts, yet this "movement" is so out of control that has exposed and condemned a clearly unharmful man to having to explain the inexplicable. It is a tactical moved used many times before by the same ideology, and in my opinion that turns this into a political matter too, not just a stupid and senseless character attack.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

@something similar to the "do you still beat your wife" question when the person being asked has never beat his wife? i've seen fox news do this for many years now. once it's put out there......even if most people think the accuser is lying and are proven right, the accused still has that "he was accused of......" guy to have to live down. he's a celebrity and he wants to be known for his comedic abilities and not be known as the........

[@edwardcohen1184]

Regret is not rape:

[@lajebu08]

Wow, this is frightening. I understand misreading people and everything, but she went for the kill without even talking it out with him. He was obviously concerned for her, and it seems like she didn't give him the chance. That settles it, I'm investing in Sex robots.

[@SoulControlla99]

Why would you think that after you shoot a guy down for sex, he's going to feel comfortable giving you a massage? Play with your hair? How does that make sense? You can't say sexual touching is not ok but intimate touching is? That's really weird mixed signals.

[@supadave3210]

To all women DO NOT GO TO A GUY'S HOUSE!!!!!! If you do not want to have sex just end the date in a public place and go home and shit like this won't happen

[@TGFriosania23]

supadave32 , it’s sad that a man and women can’t chill without a man getting pervy and trying to touch a women.

[@Tina758]

Women also do have a right to be interested in exploring the possibility but then decide at a later point that they do not want to engage in sexual activity. If men cannot deal with that reality, they should not be dating at all.

[@IshtarNike]

I actually have to applaud TYT on this very sensitive reporting on this subject. So many people love to strawman them and call them SJWs. This was a great segment.

[@madnessends2477]

Pretty much. TYT constantly get called crazy SJWS but in actuality they can be very reasonable in many subjects, Anna and Cenk specially. Even Sargon of Akkad had to admit recently in a video regarding the justice democrats fiasco. Anna in particular is not by any means a “crazy feminist”, in fact she is consistently fair and balanced and has often even defended men when she they were being unfairly maligned. But everyone is too committed to their side so they pretend they are just as bad as the craziest SJWs out there.

[@armykid567]

Madness Ends TYT now realizes that they cannot side with the over the end craziness of the Left. unlike how they were during the election up to a couple of months ago. TYT is slowly going more centrist.

[@MRostendway]

They often jump the shark but they kept it real this time.

[@beau8464]

Madness Ends they well and truly believe in social justice and push it as much as they can. They openly lie and mislead when talking about stories regarding black people and police in order to form an argument for social justice in favour of black people. They are, by definition, social justice warriors. Although in certain issues they can be reasonable and moderate, there are the odd few in which they fly off the sjw handle.

[@anonymousbiscuit5799]

I said woman would take advantage of this "movement" for money and this is the perfect case. This chick is trying to get paid period.

[@xaviercortinaz8008]

How is she looking to get paid if she's anonymous? That's a really stupid claim to make. Also, no one said this wouldn't happen at any point with this movement. As long as we can identify that's what's going on with this individual case, then nothing about the movement diminishes. It's still an extremely important movement.

[@anonymousbiscuit5799]

Xavier Cortinaz stop being stupid bro.

[@khansahb-o4e]

So being awkward/non-smooth is rape now?

[@DuraDigi]

Wow! This guy did nothing wrong he stopped as soon as she asked him to. This is getting ridiculous.

[@chazbennett8676]

WAIT???? They left the bedroom naked, He sits on the couch, BUT she goes down to the floor in front of Him???????? And then Shes pissed He didnt play with Her hair? 100% team Aziz.

[@ryanb9526]

He stopped as soon as she verbally said "no." She could have said that at any time, including before she undressed. This is a non-story and diminishes actual sexual assaults.

[@JARomero88]

Just like women say men need to be vocal and support victims of sexual assault in order to enact change, women need to support those men who are wrongly accused of sexual misconduct. Aziz did nothing wrong, if you don't want to hook up with him, don't go to his apartment, or just say no. Men cannot read minds and your "non verbal" cues. Allegations like these only set back the me too movement and distract us from helping real victims of sexual assault.

[@augustofonte9430]

TYT misreported. After she said no and they got dressed he tried again to strip her. Then she left. That’s the issue. “While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants. She turned away. She remembers “feeling in a different mindset at that point.”” it’s very clearly stated in the article.

[@YankNba]

Aziz did nothing wrong

[@NBA_Z0]

No he raped her....... mentally lmao 😂

[@hugoarcada]

JAJAJAJAJAJA You can't make this up man! What a timeline!

[@jcaashby3]

Sounds more like a bad date from her perspective.

[@carboy101]

I don't like the fact that she hid her identity while trying to blow up his career.

[@RiceDaddy07]

Damn straight.

[@d0m2288]

Dr0pkidd I hope someone exposes her. Like a dog who shits on the carpet, we need to rub her face in it.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

that's just one of many things that i don't like about her.

[@Lobos222]

Aziz Ansari should sue for defamation. This is clearly NOT sexual assault and women shouldnt be walking around thinking they can claim anything and get away with it. I highly doubt the "lets be soft of both sides" would have been the case if the roles were reversed OR the women just made up shit in place of reality to make it sound worse than it really was. In the latter case I am pretty sure the victim, aka the guy, would be projected as the perpetrator just based on a bias hearsay.

[@ekoms108]

Woman can go around and say whatever they want.

[@zanicanbanachek1068]

Nah I think he’s better than that

[@Lobos222]

+WhiteBoyTroll. Its not about being "better". Its about setting an example. Does he have to ask for damages or prison etc? No, hes dosent, but he can ask for her to OFFICIALLY via legal papers to withdraw her claims and state hes actions was NOT sexual assault. Which would be the truth in this case!

[@davidjohnsonGT]

This needs to stop. Shit like this where the woman screams" wolf", is going to kill any opportunity for actual victims to come forward

[@RiceDaddy07]

By the way, we need more women like Ana. Ana is a true example of a strong, intelligent woman.

[@liberalinoklahoma1888]

So now we guys are supposed to read minds? He did everything right.

[@darthtaiter]

As a now nearly fifty year old adult woman who suffered through childhood Sexual Grooming and Molestation... and outright Sexual Assault as a young adult, it has taken me a lifetime to work on healing and it's still a work in progress. But I can say very clearly that while Aziz may have behaved in a way that was a bit dense Nothing, Absolutely Nothing he is described as doing qualifies as SEXUAL ASSAULT, it simply isn't. It may have been inappropriate of him to take one more crack at seeing if she was interested in having sex, but ultimately he was genuinely respectful of her saying NO... that is the simple truth. Do not blur the lines and blunt the razor edge of what real Sexual Assault is about, if a female (or male) says no and it still happens, that is Rape. This chick said no and no sex happened.

[@Itchieban1Ebony]

Thank you ... and that's the bottom line !

[@Unzinkable]

Here's a hint for the ladies: If you don't want to have sex, silently allowing a man to undress you IS body language, and it implies an interest in having sex.

[@devilmikey00]

Ya, say NO sooner. Some dudes may pick up on your discomfort while other will not. Making it clear from the outset avoids this crap.

[@mmddyyyyalphabet]

If bad dates are sexual assaults, then 90% of men and women would be in jail for sexual assault.

[@mmddyyyyalphabet]

GoodMorningRatchets That's absurd. Sure, maybe fewer men mind, but you can't say all men.

[@okaro6595]

Women wanted sexual freedom. Freedom comes with responsibility. If you have a right to say yes, you have the duty to say no when you feel so. We cannot have system where men have to read women's minds and interpret their non-verbal communication.

[@creolemanya1646]

It's like you planned a trip, took off work, bought the tickets, packed your bags, waited at the airport, boarded the plane, buckled your seat belt, and decided you didn't wanna go on the trip and the airline should've known and not let you book the flight...... ugh

[@gumbercules1969]

for future reference, am excellent non-verbal cue would be to not get naked or put one's clothes back on.

[@jeremycheng3998]

Another innocent man accused.

[@jackiehwanghobbyacc]

Another innocent woman accused = standard daily experience of half the world. For every innocent man accused there are 99 innocent women crucified. Damn they do damn they don't.

[@daniellecarlihope5032]

This is offensive to me as a rape survivor.. this is not assault and there is a spectrum. She may have been uncomfortable but she was not in physical danger or threatened. This is why women aren't heard out

[@thamomentum]

Hey, Sorry for what happened to you. As a man, I apologize for our mankind. I hope you're doing better. Peace and Love, From Canada.

[@ko_djo]

Danielle Denison Facts

[@swangpersonab4143]

This is not sexual assault. She could have left at any point.

[@SLYKM]

Swang Persona B leaving or not doesn't diminish another person's actions. "This is not murder, that person could have left the suspect's home at any time."

[@SLYKM]

Sko Leo evidence?

[@Communitychannel2001]

SLYKM her stupid story of a shitty date. It wasn't rape you idiots!

[@SLYKM]

Deathstroke1137 sexual assault =/= rape, moron

[@Communitychannel2001]

SLYKM I called it a shitty date anyways you dummy

[@jjmblue7]

Maybe he didn't rub her back or play with her hair because he thought she might interpret it as another sexual advance.

[@Evy2526]

Urgh, I hate this story. Really what are we, helpless girls unable to affirm ourselves? Is it to men to always guess how we feel? I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for her. Grow a backbone instead of calling yourself a victim because a man couldn't read your mind.

[@dianag7239]

Question: How much responsibility has the journalist to publish a story like this? Where are the morals, the ethics, and criteria?

[@TheShadowofsparta]

She got millions of views. That's all that matters I assume

[@thisbabyboomer]

So, why would she have expected him to stroke her hair or rub her shoulders after she stopped his sexual advances, Thats what I cant understand @all. Surely he wouldnt have felt she wanted him to do that and she sounds like a bit of a flake anyway, sorry...

[@asdfasdf1253]

Ana, thank you for keeping it real and straight. Hard to watch Cenk fumbling and bumbling with his caveats.

[@TheShadowofsparta]

I think he did it just to try to present another side, but you can see he struggled

[@MRostendway]

Ofcourse hes struggling. They tried to destroy him over some decades old nonesense too. He has to walk on eggshells when it comes to these stories.

[@asdfasdf1253]

MRostendway Cenk has been so browbeaten by SJW orthodoxy that's he's having a hard time taking his balls out of his purse.

[@onyx8231]

She said no and he stopped. Where is the wrong doing?

[@entertain7us148]

"The worst night of my life" - i think we solved it. This girl is just so incredibly privileged that spending a night with a guy who couldn't read minds was literally the worst experience of her life.

[@bgoumas]

entertain7us14 word, he took her to a historic river side restaurant and she was hung up on the color of wine

[@themisvespucci9894]

Of course. Shes 23 and living on her own in nyc? On a photographers salary? Thats some striaght up SATC/Girls shit where its totally unrealistic or her parents are floating her.

[@Eamenic1]

As a liberal, this shit stinks to high heaven. That woman should have charges brought up against her. Aziz has the right to sue.

[@nigen]

he's not going to though, you know he's not, the world has change, everything is a matter of world opinion now.

[@Eamenic1]

nigen I guess he’s not; and whatever his reasons are, are his own.

[@sammichael1089]

This invalidates real sexual assault.

[@ainsleymeyers446]

Sometimes an uncomfortable sexual encounter is no ones fault. If you can say something at the time and you don’t say anything it’s not the other person’s fault! Calling this sexual assault just trivializes what other women have gone through.

[@CherylSimser]

This woman sounds immature and emotionally unbalanced to me. If she considered it an assault against her just about him ordering the other wine, why didn't she leave then with her nonverbal cues and calling him simply a jerk in her head. Oh, and certainly not contacting him the following day. Her accusations are not only ridiculous but very unfair and more indicative of her own personal dysfunction.

[@Mdog73]

She sounds entitled, and needs a mind reader apparently. Glad I never leave my house any more.

[@bobsee8226]

Cheryl Simser She can order a red wine and pay for it herself. Problems???,,

[@Joyness333]

What's even more disturbing is that she has clearly had time to reflect on this, and that he has apologized (more than once), and yet she still went ahead and did something she knows can destroy his career and his life. This story shouldn't be circulating the way it is, but at least people are calling it out for what it is.

[@wiseass5045]

I've always had trouble understanding women totally sometimes. True story : I was dating this girl and one night we were making out for the first time on the couch watching a movie and I started moving my hands and she said no. So I turned around and started watching the movie. All of a sudden she pretty much attacked me passionately wich led to you know. I'll never understand women.

[@hhiippiittyy]

wiseass 5000 Don't trust women. Women understand women, and they hate each other... very telling. Not kidding, but just kidding.

[@brandonneumann5294]

wiseass 5000 i highly doubt you even have touched a woman

[@Quantum_Sentinel]

i have a tip for you: don't say 'woman'. think of each one as a person. try it. works like magic.

[@simonwinn8757]

@wiseass, sometimes no's don't always mean no, they can mean try again later, try something different, or just a playful no and wanting you to continue.

[@P1ranh4]

Simon Winn yeah unfortunately. and sometimes no just means no. Since each woman is different (as ToBe Fair has said correctly) they also use 'no' in very different ways. Depending on situation, tone, person...

[@harryo82]

Going out on a date is now sexual assault..? WTF!

[@xxD20Girlxx]

As a woman and a feminist this is absolutely atrocious behavior on the part of 'Grace'. You told him you weren't interested in sex, he stopped making advances on you, helped you get home, and the next morning apologized to you when you told him he made you uncomfortable. Non-verbal cues? Aziz Ansari is not a mind reader! As soon as you said no it was shut down. If you didn't say no before that's on you and that's the line where it is assault or not. Use your brain.

[@lynnhamps7183]

Wish I could 'like' your comment a hundred times....

[@themisvespucci9894]

this woman is Young and the epitome of privilege 1. You don't pair red wine with oysters you pair wine with your food that's why it was white 2. oysters are known aphrodisiac 3. living alone in New York City on an artist much less a photographer salary that's highly unlikely and unrealistic that's some sex in the city type of stuff or girls where her parents are floating her 4. if this was the worst out of your life you lived a very privileged and sheltered life

[@tia-light]

I'm a woman who has experienced sexual assault and I declare (from what is covered here) Aziz Ansari is innocent.

[@nsignific]

I was so hoping TYT had a sane opinion on this, I'm glad it turned out to be true.

[@ChickenRamen]

just say you're not interested in sex from the get go. use your words. you're an adult

[@Adeon55]

Exactly.

[@samsadeniz]

REGRET IS NOT ASSAULT

[@mikecarter5631]

samsa deniz I totally agree, but legally, regret means a person has admitted guilt. It’s not fair.

[@xxxxmimi]

Omg... Ansari was a gentleman. He even sent txt message the day after AND apologized for misreading the situation. Whatttt? And this girl still went public with this? I hope SHE faces legal issues

[@ashphillips4753]

xxxxmimi she's racist. It's all because he's brown.

[@heyyy19]

Worst night of her life? She must have had the easiest life ever.

[@The_RedVIII]

Okay, this needs to stop. Allegations like this have to stop. Men cannot read minds. Give us a freaking chance. From what I understand, Ansari did nothing wrong. And stories like this just lead this whole Metoo movement into the wrong direction.

[@julies7918]

it's fine. all the women I know 'in real life' think this story is insane. twitter isn't real life.

[@KainErrow]

My response to Ana & Cenk: Oh, thank gawd. I was really thinking that the hysteria surrounding the fringes of the MeToo & TimesUp movement could have infected these too. I honestly have no sympathy for the woman beyond feeling she has emotional/psychological issues and needs to see a counselor. The "reporter" just fails the human test, and that's it.

[@cmbsoldja]

How dare he try to have consensual sex with a woman, at his apartment, after a date.

[@EyeLean5280]

Well, these things are a bit complicated. When I was young, I had reactions like that to guys. I blamed them for putting me in situations I didn't like and trying to touch me sexually while I was feeling off-balance. Most guys do tend to move faster than most women are comfortable with and being on the receiving end of that is a terrible feeling, really. Now that I have more life experience, I understand more about what's going on in these scenarios. It takes time and experience for women to overcome their childhood training that they have to be nice to everybody all the time and never hurt anyone's feelings. And for guys it take time and experience to understand that silence doesn't always equal consent. Hopefully, they gain the ability to read the subtler signals or if in doubt, ask outright. Both sides in this situation didn't communicate well enough, in my opinion.

[@MostySupaFast]

Pretty outrageous right ? 😂😂😂😂 It Wouldn't happened if He were gay 😂😂😂😂😂

[@DeadliestWarriorZZ]

So...she went to his appartment, he wanted sex, she said no and then the guy called a cap for her *end of story.

[@bossytweed6664]

I feel the worst part of this is the fact that she gets to stay anonymous while Aziz’s name is publicly tarnished. I hope he sues her.

[@kimberlyrea3331]

Bossy Tweed-I want to sue her! As a bonafide victim, I want to sue her for everything she has and everything she’ll ever have. Every one of us should sue her.

[@davy209]

I knew a girl who “felt” sexually assaulted because she had terrible sex she originally consented to.

[@IDontKnow-pf6en]

when i read this story, it pissed me off so much. stories like this take away from true stories of assault. this was a bad date, and she DIDNT PROPERLY COMMUNICATE. she literally was naked with him, engaging in foreplay, etc. when she said stop, he did stop, and called a cab for her. im not saying the encounter didnt sound cringey, but definitely not assault.

[@muserussell2377]

Erin Maria i agree with you. This was a very bad thing to come out but i think worse is that a subset of people are arguing for this to be sexual assault now

[@isabellagiacchi7230]

It's sexual misconduct but not assault.

[@Blackjack09721]

The messed up part is she called him the next day to have a discussion about her feelings. They had a discussion about it and he was understanding to her concerns. She comes back after that conversation a year later, and tries to ruin his reputation? That isn't a teaching moment....it is a spiteful and vengeful one.

[@Kieronic1989]

alreid09 a year later. Bro the 2017 Emmys were only months ago. She came out because he won the Golden Globe and was being hailed a feminist.

[@P1ranh4]

Guys have been taught to be the ones who make the first move, to be assertive, to not be passive in social situations and especially not during dating or sex. That primes men to make mistakes, because it's expected of us to have to try and control the situation. If you don't do anything, mistakes can't be made. But a passive guy will basically never get a date, let alone maintain a relationship. This is a huge responsibility and unfortunately in dating women have made little attempt to share this responsibility with a guy. As a male feminist myself that's one of the bigger frustrations of mine. Dating is still not a partnership between men or women, but there's almost always the expectation for the guy to write first, to make the first move, to make the decisions. Gender roles have barely moved from the olden times. In an environment like that *clear* instructions have to be given if something isn't going the way the woman wants. If you don't say or do anything, you can't be surprised if something doesn't go your way. With women speaking up and accusing men of not reading their wants and needs to the point of career-destroying amount, this is very quickly approaching a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. That's not sustainable for a healthy relationship between the sexes.

[@entertain7us148]

Couldn't agree more. Men have been conditioned to pursue while women have been conditioned to play hard-to get.. to the point where this woman apparently had no idea what to do when she didn't want to have sex.

[@GoodAvatar]

Not to mention there's a lot of expectations for the guy to *pay for everything.* You're *darn right* that dating isn't *equal partnership.* I wish it would be.

[@TheBazino]

Things should just be turned around. Women should have to approach guys, etc. That would fix the biggest problem of all, that basically EVERY woman feels like she's deserving of a superstar man, because "I can get a guy by going to a bar the next day!" (which she can, because if a guy fails at Hot Girl 1 and Hot Girl 2, he'll go for Average Girl 1, etc. in the hopes that he'll get A win and not just a night of frustration and disappointment in himself by total rejection).

[@JoseRodriguez-lq3gu]

I completely agree with your input here.

[@P1ranh4]

I have been approached by women before, luckily, but it doesn't happen very often at all. I have met women who do take agency, who know what they want, communicate what they want and get what they want. Interestingly enough they were very often not very romantic, but pragmatic, easy-going and not complicated at all. They have also been hot, average and not hot at all. These women exist, but it's obvious that they are a minority. I wish for more women to have the confidence to get what they want instead of waiting for a guy who happen to guess the correct way.

[@czrs85]

Come on if a date is bad why go to the guys apartment!

[@quebon2]

Pretty sure she didn't mind the date until they got to his apartment and she got oral sex.

[@thavasahwang2549]

Cause he's Aziz Ansari.

[@calvin624]

Women are accountable for their actions, they aren't to be wrapped up in cotton wool and shielded from the world. If you wanted red wine then buy yourself a bottle of red wine. This woman is flat out neurotic. Aziz Ansari is not a mind reader, he is not to blame for how you feel about the interaction you had.

[@SoulControlla99]

calvin624 Stories like this only serve to reinforce societal notions that women are weak and need protection. That writer should be ashamed of herself.

[@PenguinApple]

The poor guy does everything right and then still gets shit on cause the girls psycho... wtf

[@barrykaine6526]

- Well guys, now it's assault, if it doesn't measure up to her romantic visions, or your performance fails to please, (in retrospect, of course). You are now required to read her mind, or at least her "non-verbal" communications. You may be dealing the next day, (week/year/decade) with buyers remorse, and maybe arrest. Happy dating!

[@anonymousanonymously5439]

What on earth was she doing naked with him anyway? Like c'mon lady. And use your words, just say "no" off the bat.

[@farhaanfidai3181]

Anonymous Anonymously ikr?!

[@patsysadowski1546]

This story belittles actual rape and assault cases. We need to empower women to say no but not this.

[@Ostnizdasht206]

We are going to need written consent now.

[@goldblade84]

Had the same thought, reminded me of a piece I saw on TV long ago about a couple who had a written document of when they have sex to when they clean the dishes.

[@TheShadowofsparta]

Like the Dave Chappelle sketch. Prescient

[@Skyknight12]

There's already an app for that.

[@Rio-ke9he]

or just impose sharia law lol

[@d0m2288]

CyberRonin The first slow jam I play when having a woman over is actually an air-tight liability waiver sung in the style of R. Kelly.

[@lauracortez3904]

This is 💩 if she was uncomfortable she only had to leave the apartment inmediatly. This is not a sexual assault! Just an awkward situation !

[@ko_djo]

This is why I love TYT. You guys actually have common sense.

[@phillipsmith3102]

TYT has common sense?? I challenge that notion but on this issue YES!!! They can at times be correct, i'm strictly centrist Libertarian and surely not a conservative but when Cenk captioned the "if I was conservative this story would have flipped" that's total nonsense! Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson's narrative pretty much fits this one.

[@adolfostein6366]

Abby Nierman is her name. She's deleting her social media accounts like crazy. She's full of guilt.

[@athews1976]

I can't give that woman any sympathy. She actually participated in this "hook-up." She had no problem being naked with this man. Shit like that is fucking confusing. She just didn't know WTF she was doing or what she even wanted. *THAT AIN'T HIS FAULT!*

[@loverainthunder]

She sounds like a high conflict person who uses passive aggressive language that hints at what she is going to smear you with later. She also seems outraged that she wasn't treated as she felt she should have been treated and people like that live for revenge.

[@towlie9428]

This is why I'm getting a sex doll

[@IAMLOVENIMROD]

Aziz is clearly guilty of not being Jedi.

[@paigemccoy8526]

To me the girl sounds naive and immature while Aziz sounds maybe a bit awkward in his approach. But, as my husband of 25 years still says to me, guys aren’t mind readers. They just aren’t. Unless your nonverbal cue is a kick to his junk or an unmistakable push or punch, then he may not know you’re not into the sex. You’ve got to speak up and walk away, something verbal that he can’t miss.

[@DreamingInTechnicolor]

I can't see her perspective. regret [alone] is NOT assault.