B.C. unicyclists hit with pricey tickets

[@Ben-dj6wg]

Welcome to Vancouver, feel free to do drugs, sell drugs, launder money... but don't you dare ride an electric unicycle.

[@crosisofborg5524]

In other words…. Welcome to a liberal city.

[@littleripper312]

@@crosisofborg5524 While I agree that being too liberal is a serious problem here I guarantee if we were conservative they would have banned escooters and e-unicycles right from the get go.

[@zometthecomet]

That’s also against the law😂 holy smokes

[@yondaimehokage2281]

100% lol

[@MikAnimal]

@@littleripper312as conservatives like less regulation your logic is so very broken

[@MaximilianGros]

Here in Germany, penalties start at a full monthly wage gross and go as far as imprisonment. Driving an environmentally friendly small electric vehicle is punished more severely than the hundred-thousandfold fraud of the former Audi boss. Politicians from all parties have already announced that they do not want to change anything, the competition for the domestic car industry would probably be too big. E-scooter drivers faced similar penalties until the EU regulated e-scooters and forced Germany to legalize them. This leads to such absurd situations as in Austria, where driving a rental scooter that is lying around everywhere actually violates national law.

[@George-Francis]

Not the worst thing German authorities have done

[@mr_brass_monkey]

but they put up no highway speed limits

[@MaximilianGros]

@@mr_brass_monkey The car is the sacred cow of the Germans. Here you can even drive drunk, kill a person and still become transport minister.

[@damnjustassignmeone]

That’s very backwards. I live in New York City where a lot of people ride these. Nobody gets a ticket even though they’re technically not legal. They’ve just decided to not enforce the law against these.

[@Ewert99]

Wow. Here in Sweden we can still ride them as bikes.

[@brutusmaximus5380]

An unregulated vehicle means that the state chooses not to regulate it. It's like requiring registration for horses. He should have fought those tickets and then sued the cop in private arbitration.

[@robertskelton2576]

I guess it's a lot safer to go after a geek on a unicycle than a real criminal.

[@bmxscape]

until they start fleeing down alley ways... if its really that easily maneuverable then surely they can just escape the cops

[@Cobra85291]

​@@notexpatjoe We are actually having a police shortage problem. Cops are leaving or retiring far faster then they can be hired.

[@Plasmastorm73]

@@bmxscape You can't evade a radio...

[@alfnoakes392]

@@bmxscape Unless the cops are also on unicycles? That I would actually pay to see.

[@bmxscape]

@@Plasmastorm73 u gotta think quick man, dip down an alley and the cop car will drive around the block. during that time u backtrack through the ally and go somewhere else. aint no backup coming in 8 seconds

[@AliceSinclair98]

It's the same thing for electronic longboards as well. You apparently need insurance for you to ride them, but you literally can't get insurance for them because they aren't classified as vehicles.

[@Knight_Jos]

then stop driving them. If you do get into an accident your insurance won't pay anything. is that really worth the risk?

[@jeffder7143]

They literally have scooters to rent Lime and bird. What type of crud is this lol.

[@AliceSinclair98]

@@Knight_Jos spoken like an old fart. Yes it is worth it, because they're fun to ride. Your argument is the same as "why do motorcycles exist, if there's a bigger risk of bodily harm when riding them?" Or "why go swimming if there's a risk of drowning? Is it even worth it?" Or better yet "why fly in a plane? They can crash y'know.."

[@AliceSinclair98]

@trumpisthemessiah7017 exactly, next we'll need insurance to walk down the street or breath the 1%'s oxygen

[@Clickmaster5k]

@trumpisthemessiah7017 Yes you should. Cyclist kill and hurt a lot of people each year.

[@daletidy.]

Thank you CBC Vancouver for keeping the comments section discourse open!

[@Njord-80085]

I like to think that we've collectively made a difference by instantly downvoting videos that stifle discourse by disabling the comments.

[@cotcotpouetpouet]

In France monowheels have been recognized by law as an authorized vehicle since July 2019, they have the right to circulate on the streets, cycle paths, and roads whose speed limit does not exceed 70km/h for cars. They have designed the same regulations for all means of electric micro-mobility (EDPM). We have the obligation to insure them against damage to other people and property, this costs between 30 and 100€ per year depending on the insurance companies.

[@brushlessmotoring]

That sounds ideal - any tips on how that got done, and so relatively early too? Maybe I should move to France ... California is also somewhat progressive, BC is trying, and the e-scooter trial was a decent step in the right direction, I just don't understand why it excluded e-wheels and e-skate. How much liability does that EUR30-100 insurance get you? Any other limits to the devices? EUCs can be safely speed limited, but it is dangerous to limit thier wattage, as they need that to stay balanced - needs a very high torque motor to briefly spike in juice when you hit a pothole.

[@cotcotpouetpouet]

@@brushlessmotoring , Collectives of users and representatives of stores campaigned together for the monowheel to be recognized in the law which was being prepared to regulate electric mobility (bicycles, scooters, draysiennes, monowheel, etc.), they went to meetings to explain this mode of transport and show the interest of including it in mobility (low CO2 emissions, no noise, no parking, and good intermodality with public transport), it took a few years. In France monowheels are not limited in power, but in speed: by law they must be "materially" limited to 25km/h, except that in practice no wheel is (software restriction only, and nobody 'enabled). The police do almost no checks, except in the streets of Paris where a very large number of bicycles and EDPM cohabit on the cycle paths (in the center of the city there are often more bicycles than cars now), they visually check that the monowheels do not go too fast compared to the bicycles (30-35km/h, still passes, but beyond that they verbalize and can even confiscate the material). They have also begun to control insurance. Insurance at €30/year covers damage caused to third parties (persons and equipment/vehicles) but does not cover any damage to oneself and the wheel. For 100€/year there is insurance which also covers the pilot and his wheel.

[@PURENT]

@@brushlessmotoring In France you can literally buy cars that can be driven without a license, they have the top speed of a golf cart but they look like a very compact car. On the other hand, Paris banned all those rental e-scooters and e-bicycle companies from operating because they were being a nuisance and causing property damage which would go unpaid.

[@scottydiver5114]

Great

[@KyrilPG]

​@@PURENT No, only free floating e-scooters that were causing real problems and because operators were not implementing the features asked by the city hall fast enough and well enough. The free floating e-bikes were not affected and remain available. They've even asked the companies to beef up their fleets in preparation for the Olympics.

[@tmac326]

Who does riding a Unicycle hurt? What logical reason is there to give a $600 ticket other than attempting to steal money?

[@markifi]

i wonder whether it'd count as a bicycle if you attached a rollerskate wheel on the seat

[@littleripper312]

@@markifi It's so nutty that we even have to think of doing stuff like that. These are literally the same as ebikes and escooters. What is wrong with this city. We have a massive traffic problem as well as a poverty problem and riding stuff like this helps with both of those things. Yet Vancouver hates cyclists and wants us to all drive cars.

[@linusa2996]

@@markifi See, now someone with an actual brain is thinking instead of whining about the "man"

[@zeighy]

@@everydaytenor8862 "highway speeds" lol, these things don't even go close to highway speeds... lmao, but okay....

[@toplarry]

Next thing you know they will fine you for suicide,

[@madogblue]

Absolutely Ridiculous. To be fair municipalities need to catch up with all electric vehicles. Cities want to to reduce emissions and should encourage electric bikes, etc. Clearly change is needed

[@001sander2]

God forbid we decrease traffic congestion and pollution 😵‍💫

[@Waldo1122]

You can only blame automotive companies for lobbying to keep people inside cars.

[@zometthecomet]

Just like Ads ! There is money in ads but NO money in stopping them😅 Tuff world we live in! And just to be sure if you think for a second your going to be able to go 45km an hours with no gas with out paying them some how? 😂 ITS THEIR JOB TO TAX YOU Hahahah are you lost ? This is not a new thing! They HAVE to tax everything people do! It’s the whole point of capitalism and government

[@accelgamerhd4954]

@@GlennSweden1 But hate the competitions making more than them.

[@raven4k998]

that's fine so long as he has insurance on that unicycle🤣

[@Codeman22]

You aren’t though.

[@illiniwood]

In my city in the U.S. we can ride anything gas powered or electric in the streets without insurance or a license as long as it doesn't exceed 25mph at full throttle. However, they are not permitted to be on the expressway, freeway or interstate.

[@theoBaba773]

Hell yea. Canada is f*cked up. This super troopers 2 😂

[@user-co6ww2cm9k]

​@@TotallyNotBrandon lmao yes it does

[@wcswood]

@@TotallyNotBrandon forward and rear facing cameras keep the white folks in line.

[@JoeOvercoat]

@@user-co6ww2cm9kNo it doesn’t. Americans don’t share the road with bikes, and don’t share the road with mopeds, even. Half of them are simply confused, and the other half is driven by misdirected anger. It’s a bummer, but that’s how it is.

[@beer1for2break3fast4]

Sounds very reasonable to me.

[@teejay2679]

We pay the police to write us tickets. That's so genius.

[@reaperinc7752]

no so much you.

[@fermitupoupon1754]

Over here in The Netherlands at least the laws are clear. These things are considered mopeds under the law and that means they have to meet all of the requirements that a moped has to meet. If they do, the importer or manufacturer can apply for a type rating for it to be allowed on the road. The thing is, these things don't and can't meet the requirements as set in the law. This is mostly related to the brakes, so there is a legitimate safety concern at the root of it. Most of the other requirements can be bypassed on technicalities if a manufacturer really wanted to. But as it stands, over here it's a moped, so it must have a plate and be insured and you're required to have an AM-class license to ride it. But because of the brake requirements, it can't get a plate. And because it has no plate, it can't be insured. And thus it isn't allowed off private property.

[@wkjeeping9053]

The state I live in has them labeled as mopeds too. Also must be insured and licenced. The law was changed cuz of the rental skooters that the city has.

[@happydappyman]

That's a bit silly. They should just treat it like a bicycle, except you just need insurance ($80-$100/year).

[@fermitupoupon1754]

@@happydappyman in order for it to be a bicycle it has to have pedals and the electric motor can only be pedal assist. These things do not have pedals and thus can't have pedal assist. That makes them mopeds. Mind you this law was put in place during the heyday of the OG Segway. So it's not like manufacturers weren't aware of these rules for going on 2 decades. They just chose not to go that route.

[@happydappyman]

@@fermitupoupon1754 yep, and I'm saying those standards are dumb. There are countries in Europe where they do exactly what I explained in my last post and have been doing so for 5 years. Makes a lot more sense than a bunch of arbitrary pedal assist nonsense.

[@fermitupoupon1754]

@@happydappyman I know they have been and I think they're inviting more trouble than it's worth. I've had to deal with trying to recoup 650 euro in damages from a kid on a Xiaomi e-scooter when he ran into my motorcycle and bent my exhaust. Have you any idea what kind of hassle it is to sue the parents of a 13 year old? Especially if that 13 year old managed to put himself in hospital at the same time. Kid was wearing noise cancelling earpods and riding an illegal, uninsured vehicle, without a license. Same with a guy on an OG Segway who put me in hospital after colliding with me in a mall, and then he took off. Liability is probably handled differently in other countries, but from my point of view, they're mopeds and should be treated as such. Even if only to make dealing with the liability in an accident easier. Not to mention tracking down an offender.

[@Sieva.]

Mobility devices like these should be legalized and treated the same as bikes and e-scooters.

[@kylesalmond5719]

And they should be insured, just like all bicycles

[@ChasingSkyler]

​@@OptionalZeroI think the real threat here is cars.

[@surenkv6461]

Especially this EV should be insured. It is very risky for pedestrians, which is much more dangerous on the road, too, because of its high speed & single wheel design.

[@eucmike]

@@OptionalZero No true a all!

[@MySonNamedBort]

@@OptionalZeroe-bikes are already legal and go just as fast, take up more room on the road.

[@brutusmaximus5380]

If you get a ticket riding one of these, you need to fight it in court and file a countersuit. If there is no regulation specific to unicycles then the ticket should be dismissed. If it is not dismissed, you can appeal it. Just don't let the government railroad your freedoms. It is through registrations that the state has jurisdiction. The courts lack subject matter jurisdiction over unicycles because there are no statutes related to their regulation. Think of it this way, do you need to register a horse?

[@spydr8521]

Not allowed to ride a horse on the street either. Therefor no registration.

[@BoomBillion]

​@@spydr8521you can ride a horse on the road.. there are some rules on age and equipment. But no registration.

[@odtube]

Should be enough to have personal liability insurance, not specific "EUC" insurance.

[@kmg501]

Exactly.

[@eucmike]

I got insurance on mine no issues for liability

[@familytvbox5218]

Exactly! But this is not what their corporate masters are thinking... You can't make money on useless insurance if you are not selling it to the fools.

[@eucmike]

@trumpisthemessiah7017 Yes, I know how insurance works. :) I have 1mil Liability on my EUC. If i hit someone or something, as well as they will replace it, if crashed! It's put under my home insurance. They also took my euc Serial number. My jet ski is insured under my home insurance as well the same.. coverage.

[@MrLuc420]

Yeah, you can definitely do some harm with these things. Looks like dude has a pretty fast one too. And I've seen these things rip through the streets. I agree with them needing liability insurance.

[@scottsum1319]

Any court update on this? ie. were the ticket/s upheld or dismissed?

[@landocycle]

As far as I know, they were dismissed. However, this hasn’t stopped the tickets, or the police behaviour towards them. It’s honestly super disheartening, because many people are back in their cars and refusing to ride due to the stress of harassment.

[@eschelar]

People still need to take time to go to court and fight the tickets. This is tyranny mixed with incompetence at the local government level. Get these people out of office.

[@GEX-_-]

Judges should have the right to redirect proven false fines to the writer of the ticket. Make them accountable for their actions.

[@zerospace101]

@@GEX-_- Good luck with that

[@lanceblue32]

That sucks, just another excuse to rob people for more money

[@juzeus9]

the real question is how do we keep safe from police and government?

[@majestic-skies]

Still trying to figure that one out while they plummet us all into poverty 😂

[@stephangauthier911]

Stop funding them ;)

[@juzeus9]

@@stephangauthier911 then they take their funding by force, or there was no choice to start with - such as sales tax and inflation

[@matrixbug]

@@majestic-skies Canadian tax money has been used funding the war in Europe. $12.4 billion in total, financial assistance to Ukraine, so far.

[@kkhackett]

You’re not allowed. How dare you. Lol

[@patrickbedruz6475]

Build the infrastructure for pedestrians, cyclists, and cars in separate lanes!!! Theres countries that parents let their kids take their bike to school cause they know their path will never cross an intersection with cars.

[@daniellow426]

here in the U S OF America I rode a 10-speed to school all through my time in high-school. In one of the biggest metropolitan city clusters in the South West. No bike lanes, Right lane of traffic, and side walks. That high-school serviced a 3 - 5 mile radius of 14 to 18 yr olds most of whom rode bicycles. Hardly ever had an accident and we mobbed the roads.

[@hufficag]

I would never drive my kids to school. I don't have a car

[@Entropian2012]

American cities are built around car travel and I doubt it will ever change.

[@dictionplacement5467]

mobb the roads respectfully and safe brother make sure we can continue to have fun and freedom@@daniellow426

[@NK72TO]

Problem is a lot of the electric unicycles and ebikes sold today can easily go as fast as city traffic, over 60km/hr, too fast for bike lanes shared with little kids riding with their parents. So maybe they need to look at license and insurance for them if capable of a certain speed.

[@timmy2310]

My city has introduced a new law requiring insurance and a moped license. Any gas/electric vehicle (even E-Bikes) that have the ability to go over 20MPH and must be 16 or older. 16 and under is 20mph max and do not require permit or insurance. I see this reg coming to more cities.

[@ghz24]

How does that apply to nonresident travelers going through your town. Where I am no license is required and a moped license is just a drivers license. You say anything over 20 mph but the rules are 20 under its own power and class 3 can go 28 if helped but only 20 if you don't pedal. Sounds like the law doesn't effect legal e-bikes at all. A nearby town requires registration of e-bikes but I can ride through without needing to get registered because I live outside their jurisdiction. They can't prohibit people from riding through or require every traveling rider to register.

[@Fenthule]

I think that's completely ridiculous honestly. I'm disabled and I cannot drive, but I can absolutely use an e-bike. Since I can't get my license that rule would prevent me from using an e-bike that I have full capability of using. That's ableist and I'd take them to court frankly.

[@JimP226]

You can go over 20mph on a pedal bike too. This reasoning is absurd.

[@zone4garlicfarm]

@@Fenthule You should be able to get a license with an e-bike restriction. If your state doesn't have that category of driver's license talk to your state legislator about introducing a bill to fix the problem.

[@beekarinsaan]

They are legal in the US, at least in NYC.

[@sleepy670]

The problem is there are idiots on theses unicycles ruining it for everyone else. The unicyclists and store owners should be fighting against the idiots who ride these unsafely, speeding, weaving etc. The problem is they let them be idiots. Eventually they will be banned altogether. These people are barking up the wrong tree

[@imLinAhMa]

I've seen these ridden by the idiots you described, and that's why I strongly think they should be regulated befoe becoming legal to use. Electric unicycles can be so fast that they can be hard to see by a car driver until it's too late. Drivers and cyclists both need to pay attention; this can't be one-sided.

[@randomnessoftheunassuming]

Why the concern with EUCs having no insurance, and yet both e-bikes and e-scooters don't need it. Plus, the cops never seemed to do anything about the cyclists on non-motorized bikes that go screaming down the streets with barely any regard for safety.

[@cascade5682]

safety=money

[@lIIustration]

You need insurance for eBikes if they are over 500W according to ICBC. These EUC can go up to 4500W, most models are way above 500W.

[@Novusod]

The bicycle lobby was able to force some laws through that protected cyclists and let them do what the want.

[@brushlessmotoring]

@@lIIustration we can speed limit EUCs in software, but it’s important not to power limit them - the need that 2000W not to go fast, but to stay upright when you hit a pothole - that needs a sudden blip of power to pull you out of the hole and then it immediately reduced the power again - it modulates the power thousands of times a second to stay balanced.

[@littleripper312]

You do need it for ebikes. My ebike is 500watts and goes 32kpr max so it doesn't but if it's above that it's officially a limited speed motorcycle. The problem with the EUC's is they aren't offering them insurance like they do for ebikes.

[@shaynyoe]

Law makers need to start paying attention to the emergance of these technologies and provide people with options. It's clear that they want to reduce cars/ICE vehicles, but haven't considered any alternatives or explored the emerging technologies out there. In the same way that not everyone wants to drive a 4 door sedan, not everyone wants to ride a bicycle.

[@YeeLeeHaw]

They all wants us to ride buses and boring bicycles, and keep paying our taxes until we are spent. None of the ones in power use anything but their luxury cars of course, so even if they wanted to reduce pollution they wouldn't be able to see the forest for all the trees.

[@familytvbox5218]

It is not so clear. You must understand that the Canadian government is one hundred % corrupted and doesn't give a damn about Canadians. The only interest they care for is the interest of their corporate masters, who actually put them to the government in the first place. The only thing that corporations care about is PROFIT, and they don't sell EUC, EUC is a small industry, so they need to make money otherwise, for example by forcing you to buy their useless insurance, so you'll have monthly payments, practically you'll become their permanent slave for the rest of your life. Just like they already did with car owners. You all have medical insurance by default in Canada, you have public health care, so where did the need for insurance come from?

[@littleripper312]

And insurance would be nice to have. I have it on my ebike and escooter and it just gives me a little piece of mind. It's really cheap also. If they are really worried they could also just require a license plate on all electric vehicles. Might help with theft a little if they did.

[@linusa2996]

As a voter it's up to you to bring it up at the city meeting. They will not know about it if no one brings it up

[@ddawg3230]

@trumpisthemessiah7017 They are in the pockets of voters. They aren't going to win if no one votes for them. Just say that the voters are lazy and couldn't care less.

[@landocycle]

17,000km of riding for me so far. Best way to get around.

[@bigglyguy8429]

I got one a few weeks ago. Still learning...

[@leetNightshade]

​@@bigglyguy8429Keep at it, happy riding!

[@bigglyguy8429]

@@leetNightshade Cheers! I only get to ride on Sunday mornings. Am still at the stage of holding my wife's elbow, but this Sunday I shall do one length of the little car park holding on, then I'm determined to let go and learn by doing it! Worst injury so far, a bent-back finger that's still a bit tender now. Wrist protector helped my wrist, not my finga! I'm 100% confident I shall be riding around a bit next Sunday *crosses fingers

[@001sander2]

Amazing! How many years is that?

[@landocycle]

@@001sander2 I’m halfway through my 3rd year of riding. I basically replace my car 8 months of year, and just use a backpack as my trunk :) Electric unicycles have a trolly handle, it’s like a suitcase handle that pops up which is completely unique to electric unicycle’s. It makes them insanely practical to take shopping.

[@psibug565]

This is how you can tell that politicians don’t actually give a fig about the environment. Small electric vehicles like this are a practical replacement for a city car without taking up a parking space and use a lot less energy.

[@robbieunger850]

Explain how this is different from an electric bike? Last i checked 2 seconds ago the government are giving rebates to people who buy electric bikes. Tell me the difference between this and an E-bike? Why discriminate, this is my transportation. I cant store a e-bike in my tiny vancouver apartment. Would they rather me buy a car and burn fossil fuels?

[@BeatboxT]

It's Illegal to ride electric bikes that don't have pedals.

[@Flygonial]

Then it would be more apt to compare these to electric scooters under the pilot program. Most of these wheels would exceed the power limits set for scooters but it’s not impossible for some of them to be limited to 32 km/h after the fact, no? The only catch is that they may need a higher wattage limit as power is safety on self-balancing vehicles but top speed can be enforced with a large backward tilt the wheel can force itself.

[@surenkv6461]

Especially this EV should be insured. It is very risky for pedestrians, which is much more dangerous on the road, too, because of its high speed & single wheel design.

[@eucmike]

@@surenkv6461 Nope. you clearly have not been on an EUC..

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

@@surenkv6461 EUCs are actually much safer than similarly powered escooters. I know it sounds weird, but it's true. EUCs are controlled in a natural manner with your body and they integrate into your nervous system just like ice skating or running on a forest path would. EUCs are not meant to be driven on sidewalks, they belong on the road or bike path. EUCs electronics are much more robust than on ebikes or escooters. Cut-outs are very rare (7000kms on my EUC and no cutouts ever) compared to escooters with which cutouts happen on every ride.

[@ThatOneScienceGuy]

I used to ride one of these. Was cruising on my way to school going 18mph. It went limp on me and I had to hop off. I tried to run into the momentum but it was too much and I fell forward and broke my shoulder. Glad to see these guys wearing a helmet and gear. I wasn't wearing anything. I could have been killed or disabled. Never again.

[@brushlessmotoring]

Was this an EUC or a OneWheel? Which EUC was it?

[@ThatOneScienceGuy]

@@brushlessmotoring Solowheel Glide 3 (formerly the InMotion V8)

[@brushlessmotoring]

@@ThatOneScienceGuy that sucks - I’m sorry that happened, I have an older V8F and it’s never cut out, but I have overpowered it on hills. I bent the axle on it, they are strong now though. I also have the V10F and V12 HS with several thousand km on them, I do gear up, but I’ve not had problems yet. Take care man. Hope you fully recover.

[@lyl6485]

That thing's ancient though, and I highly doubt a solowheel of an early gen could go 18 safely. They are so much more improved.

[@sb3424]

Thankfully, the newer electric unicycles on the market are much more safe than those old ones. They have wider tires, suspension, better controllers, better mosfets, better hall sensors, better rims, better motors, better batteries, etc. Its likely that your inmotion v8 cut out because you pushed it to its maximum speed and because the v8 only had a 1000watt motor. I would still recommend wearing safety gear when traveling faster than 15mph just to be safe. Motorcycle gear works the best. Requiring insurance on these wheels is pretty ridiculous in my opinion.

[@JamesBiggar]

As a builder, I'm a big fan of e-bikes, e-motos and ev's, but come on guys. It's technically an e-moto, ie electric motorcycle. There are no lack of regulations. The regulations are clear. Anything below 500W and 32km/h with pedal assist is an e-bike and doesn't require insurance or registration. Anything above that is a motor vehicle, ie motorcycle. You can't register it because the company that manufactures it isn't making them to comply with road regulations - ie no DOT approved parts, VIN #, etc. You can't register a motor vehicle without a VIN and the engineers stamp of approval that permits it. You can't insure it for public road use without a VIN. Like them or not, we have to have some level of regulation around all types of motor vehicles for all of our safety. It's not the law's fault that you're in this position. It's the retailer and manufacturer who conned you into thinking that you can drive this anywhere simply because it has an electric motor and somehow electric motors are exempt from the law. But the reality is that hp is hp regardless of the source, and hp determines the level of danger you're in control of. Doesn't matter if it's an electric unicycle or a traditional gas powered scooter or moped. If it's above the stated speed and power limits for e-bike classification and you want to drive it on the road, then you need a VIN, registration, license and insurance or a special permit at the very least, just like everyone else. Riding e-motos doesn't give us special privileges above other riders. Traditional scooters and mopeds are in the same power class as your unicycle. Contact DOT to go through the necessary steps to have your ride inspected, brake and power dyno tested and approved for public road use by an engineer so you can get a VIN from the DMV for it. We can argue about the costs to legalize a motorcycle like this (or any for that matter) until we pass out. It ain't cheap either way you do it. But it's common sense that having reg and insurance for something that you're not pedaling is the legal and responsible thing to do. You've got to do your homework and think ahead before dropping thousands of dollars on something that you can't leave your own property with. I'm not saying this to be a Richard. I can empathize. I've got a $10,000 custom electric buggy that I can no longer drive on public trails thanks to recent changes to the law, so I had to build a private track for it. But if you knew you were breaking the law then you shouldn't be surprised about the consequences when you're caught. Talk to the manufacturer and/or a local automotive engineer about legalizing it, or talk to a local MLA about changing the law if you think it's unfair. Those are your options.

[@stopthattrain]

Ive been riding for 8 years cops here in the USA stop to take pictures cuz they think its kool

[@BobJohnson-xg9ng]

No place like the USA!!😀

[@JoeOvercoat]

Cops dig electric toys. It’s a win-win thing.

[@beer1for2break3fast4]

And you can probably have a side arm strapped on while you do it lol.

[@sb3424]

Lol. I had the same experience. I had one police officer follow me once, and i stopped and asked if he needed anything from me. He said "no, i was just looking at your toy". So i let him follow me for a little while more and I minded my speed. It wasnt a problem at all.

[@LS-jk3fk]

i have the v13 and was flying at 54 and a cop was amazed, completely everything about legality thrown out the window

[@pandabike3826]

These are the future. I just pass 14,000 miles commuting via EUC in the city. The city needs to catch up.

[@braddragon1812]

Exactly. You getts itsss. I’ve got about 6000km myself split between 3 wheels.

[@Carlos-wx2tc]

I was once driving at 80 km/h in the city, and a unicycle was actually going faster than I was, on the sidewalk! Not an area where you'd see any pedestrians, but still... Yeah, those things should require insurance.

[@brutusmaximus5380]

No. EUCs weigh less than a motorcycle. The damage in a crash is minimal so that your no fault insurance won't even cover it. The rider may want medical insurance. Plus because there is no way to register them there's no way to insure them except through a manufacturer's warranty. If you get a ticket riding one of these, you need to fight it in court and file a countersuit. If there is no regulation specific to unicycles then the ticket should be dismissed. If it is not dismissed, you can appeal it. Just don't let the government railroad your freedoms. The courts lack subject matter jurisdiction over unicycles because there are no statutes related to their regulation. It's the same with riding a horse. No need to register a horse, nor do you need a driver's license to ride a horse. I.E., traffic court's lack subject matter jurisdiction. It is through registrations that the state has jurisdiction.

[@whatsupbudbud]

Hey, we're all for insurance but against fearful overreaction by law enforcement as in the video above.

[@ATICrossX]

In Austria I had a friend pulled over on 5000w scooter (that was permanently limited to 25kmh and around 500w by him) officer pulled him over while doing 25km/h, read it says 5000w on the motors, said it's an actual motorcycle, not even a moped, proceed to give him 11 tickets in total costing 1100euro ($1300): no insurance, no registration, no motorcycle license , no horn, no blinkers, no low/high beam etc. Insane country and officers

[@PRH123]

Perfectly logical actions by the officer. A motor vehicle on the road with no documents, what did he expect?

[@ATICrossX]

@@PRH123 it was limited to 25kmh and by power so no it wasn't, but it only had listed power on motors that is maximum possible if not limited.

[@PRH123]

@@ATICrossX how is an officer on the road supposed to understand if a motor is limited, there is no way, he has to take the data he has in front of his eyes, and in any case with the flip of a switch or push of a button the limitations can be removed, so if it has a 5000 watt motor, it is a 5000 watt vehicle

[@ATICrossX]

@@PRH123 He could take it to inspect it and see there was no switch, and he stopped him while he was doing 25kmh. If you think its normal to get 1000eur fine for this then we have to agree to disagree

[@PRH123]

@@ATICrossX So all the officers in Austria are going to spend their days taking e vehicles to some kind of laboratory for testing, to see if their actual power rating is less than the placarded rating? The cost of the testing would be more than the fine. The fact that the vehicle was produced as a 5000 watt vehicle means it’s a motor vehicle. I can’t take a Porsche and deactivate 5 of its 6 cylinders and drive down sidewalks and take the license plates off and drive down the road.

[@OntarioAndrews415]

I'm not sure why he thinks he needs to spend money on a lawyer. People fight traffic tickets all the time. They just show up in court. Just do a little home work and then schedule a court date and show up. "Your honour this is stupid and this is why ..." :)

[@littleripper312]

I've done that for a ticket but they don't remove it they just give you a reduced amount. Still worth doing though. Saying he needs a lawyer for a $600 ticket was I guess him trying to be dramatic.

[@gregorymalchuk272]

​@@littleripper312You can appeal it to a jury trial which is a logistical and financial nightmare for the government and negates the revenue generation potential of traffic tickets.

[@philtucker1224]

You have to prove you did not break the law. If you are successful the judge will dismiss the case and the policeman that booked you will also send you flowers with an apology note attached. Let me know how you get on,,,

[@OntarioAndrews415]

@@philtucker1224 Oh really? Wow. Let me go out and sorta kinda maybe break the law now. Gee, thanks. :)

[@321okaygo8]

If a cop gives a ticket for something they just made up because they're uneducated, or power tripping, or falsely inflating quotas, they should have to pay the fine out of their personal salary. Their department should pay court costs + lawyer fees + extra $ to the ticketed person for wasting their time/missed. If he or she thinks their department misinformed them/poor training, they can pay it. Laws should be logical and clear for everyone.

[@jeffreygibson1629]

The police must be bored, this is what happens to the citizens of low crime areas.

[@znail4675]

Are Segways also illegal in Canada? EUC are essentially one wheeled Segways as that is how they came to be and how they function.

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

Segways are too slow to bother anyone.

[@shaynyoe]

Segways were designed to be a replacement to walking. EUCs are made in various shapes/sizes, but are mostly an alternative to biking.

[@stevenchow408]

Yes they are

[@brushlessmotoring]

Yes, segways were made illegal almost immediately - the motor vehicle act moves fast when the old folks home in Victoria doesn't like something.

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

@@brushlessmotoring Segways are surprisingly dangerous because they are so slow. Surprisingly slow and surprises in traffic kill people.

[@swirlingbrain]

Goobers: Write insane ticket first, ask questions later.

[@Plasmastorm73]

reap thousands of dollars for the city's general fund...

[@amidvarshoi7682]

It’s not nonsense, if you’re riding on a public road, you have to have insurance. Average insurance for motorists in Canada today is around $400, and with cars being as expensive as they are, if you hit someone side mirrors you can easily cause $2k damage, so it makes sense.

[@thisorthat7626]

So all bicyclists need to have insurance when they ride on the street? Doubtful.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

And Do you Also need to pay taxes, insurance, road tax, & licenses on roller skates?

[@prophetzarquon]

No, but you do need those on an emoto, & commuter EUCs are very much emotos not ebikes Huge difference. Literally 10×

[@duncanwallace7760]

Seems safer than a skateboard and slower than a bicycle or electric scooter, so it's hard to understand what the issue is.

[@bmxscape]

@lgbfjb1933 what? i dont need a wheel to damage your car.... if i damage your car by punching the window, how would you make me pay for it? simple answer is you can't. i already left before your phone connected to the cops. so your insurance company would have to pay out for every pedestrian who damages your car anyways, since no pedestrian has insurance that will cover your damages..

[@JoeOvercoat]

@lgbfjb1933 I suggest you read the post that you’re replying to, but more slowly this time.

[@sigmawarrior.fokeryou]

Canada is a Karen country.

[@josephfdent]

@lgbfjb1933 they have the same functionality as a skateboard, bicycle, or any other form of non-motorized transportation. electric boards, scooters, and bikes do the same speed or faster. there's no issue, other than people making an issue out of nothing

[@beer1for2break3fast4]

@lgbfjb1933 Yet an uninsured bicycle is legal.

[@stephenmichaud3339]

I love mine, the fines are crazy

[@gabinator1177]

I love mine too, and fortunately none of these fines had to be paid, and since December, the cops have switched to only giving warnings

[@braddragon1812]

Get liability insurance through your homeowners policy. You will have insurance. For any property or personal harm. Tell them what you want it for and they will hook you up. I did.

[@mkygod]

Riding a unicycle on sidewalk is pretty tricky at extremely low speeds. It requires much more balance and control. So sidewalk use is not ideal and not safe around slow moving pedestrians.

[@gyrateful]

And yet. the electric ones are self-balancing unlike the pedal juggling-clown ones that are legal.

[@whatsupbudbud]

It's only tricky while you're a beginner, otherwise it's perfect since it occupies as much space as a single person whereas other e vehicles take more space due to their dimensions. So you can easily go around pedestrians in a smooth manner with plenty of space for them to not be concerned about their safety. That being said, there is a limit on how jammed with people the sidewalk is for euc to be comfortably rideable on it. I much prefer bicycle paths.

[@nastythomashobbs]

EUC's are the future. With bike theft such a problem in BC these devices can be brought in the store with you when you shop or go to lunch.

[@brushlessmotoring]

Yup. This is what got me into these things - my bikes kept getting stolen.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

EUC are not the future, because, requiring physical fitness, the will never be as mass adopted as cars or even bicycles

[@BossPookie]

A unicycle enforcement division with a $10 million budget is the answer.

[@jimbo1637]

If they focused on ticketing the drivers who constantly park/ idle in bike lane, this wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue...

[@e-curb]

What does parking in a bike lane have to do with these EUCs?

[@jimbo1637]

@@e-curb do they not use bike lanes in BC? Where I live, these guys generally do so, I assume it was the same there. But maybe I'm wrong.

[@e-curb]

@@jimbo1637 I don't see cars in the bike lanes here. Many of them are separated so cars can't get into the bike lanes. I think the type of person that will double park is the type of person who'll park in a bike lane. Double parking isn't common here.

[@jimbo1637]

@@e-curb damn, I wish that was the case where I live. It's extremely common to have drivers park in bike lanes here.

[@e-curb]

@@jimbo1637 Where's that? Could be partly the fault of city planners. Near where I live is a main east-west commuter road. 3 lanes each way. I never see bikes on it because running parallel to it from ancient times was the railroad. The tracks are gone now, replaced by the elevated transit tracks. Underneath is the generously wide bike/pedestrian lane. Long distances can be pedaled in complete safety. in other parts of the city, they will designate a parallel running residential side street as the bike route. It results in bikes not around commuters.

[@abphoto]

In Toronto You can ride it. But Only in Bike lanes if you are not on a bike lane or if you ride on a sidewalk you will be ticketed.

[@JD-vh1qd]

Riding on the sidewalk with a bike or unicycle is totally dangerous. Too many obstacles. I ride a bike and have learned riding in the road where it is posted bike are to drive us the safest way to go. I drive several feet from the sidewalk because if you don’t car drivers think they can take up your lane at top speeds barely hitting you. It’s better to take up the space so they will move into the passing lane if they want to go buy you. Often drivers beep at me out if their ignorance and egos. Electric vehicles are our newest form of transportation. Drivers need to adapt. In Amish country the cops are not ticketing the people on horses. We need to fight for our rights to ride new and old vehicles. It’s morons driving their cars over the speed limit while they text on their phones that are making the roads unsafe.

[@gabinator1177]

Well said. We (I’m an EUC rider) don’t want to hurt anyone, and sometimes that means putting ourselves at risk so that pedestrians can be safe. Everyone knows who the real killers are, some won’t admit it.

[@opcomment]

Do bicycles require insurance?

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

They do, if you take off the pedals.

[@avalanchecannon7911]

So the crime is not having insurance. Let that sink in. You are forced to pay for your own safety and if you don't you get fined. Seems like a simple money making scheme for the government. The government would charge us for each breath we take if they could.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

You are not paying for your safety, you are paying to be able to compensate the damage to others

[@zerotoeverything4348]

what? 600$ for no insurance? holy cow

[@funkyfingerproductions2879]

For cars it's like $4000.

[@BigBoss-gb4cx]

The issue is that it's a new alternative to buy cars, motors and gas.... So these companies are fighting for their money and would do anything to get electric alternatives banned

[@tedcity5861]

BS.

[@b.c.islandgal..6772]

Hmm so it's ok for Hastings street to be the mecca of human waste & crime but these few one wheel riders are the detriment to the city..they seem like responsible drivers/riders ,more so than alot of bicycle riders..c'mon Vancouver give your head a shake..theres alot more important things to focus on..Do Better !!

[@downfromtheunderground]

They cant ticket and make money from the homeless

[@codyfisher4012]

Can't do anything about drug addicts remember, they are victims of society. No fines or jail for being grossly intoxicated by drugs. Just sandwiches, hugs and more drugs.

[@philipwebb1104]

If you have to insure an electric unicycle then insuring bicycles and scooters should be law as well but they won't insure those either!!!!! It's all B.S. and any tickets given out by the police for using these should be thrown out and the police officers should get written up or fired!!!!!!

[@jfh667]

Cant have anything that would replace the cars, because the car makes it dangerous to use these other things. Sure 600 is like 3 months of disposable income for most people, but its ok because its for your own safety. And they have quotas to meet. I have 2 vehicles, a high power electric bike and a turbo SUV. The SUV is getting about 5000 km a year as long as they dont ticket the electric bike.

[@DBExplorer1]

If we are to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, then these vehicles must be permitted. Absolutely shameful to issue a ticket.

[@jepulis6674]

Just ride a bike.

[@Sc00terNut]

It's only the cheapest and most environmentally friendly firm of transportation. Yet, we continue to insure those fume-belching killing machines on all our roads. Goes to show it has never been about safety, but about lining politicians' pockets.

[@zometthecomet]

😂 false information 😂 A Segway ninebot is like 900$ and waterproof while also being insured and yes! It may still be against the law the ride privately owned scooter still! It’s more acceptable to people being it has brakes … WoW people care about having brakes on your vehicle 😅who would have thought

[@Sc00terNut]

@@zometthecomet you've clearly never ridden an EUC...well, neither have I actually, but they do have brakes or some form of stopping mechanism. I've seen these guys stop on a dime.

[@nopenoperson9118]

How do you actually figure something which takes electricity to function as more environmentally-friendly than anything human-powered? Or cheaper, for that matter.

[@zometthecomet]

@@nopenoperson9118 bro your in the wrong place … 😭

[@nopenoperson9118]

@@zometthecomet The only metric your claim holds any water for is human energy expenditure. No batteries or electronics so no emissions from any power generation and no pollution from mining rare earth metals.

[@Zephton]

Recently seen one of these on the road in Moncton NB when i was down visiting. Thought it was neat. Dont see how this is any riskier than a bicycle etc..

[@deleteduser3455]

Some of them can go 100kmh but yeah they honestly should be treated like bicycles now if you go that fast you should probably leave the bike path

[@kingofkingschild]

Pretty sad when the WEF is telling us we all have to get to ZERO Carbon CREDITS, so we all buy a zero carbon transportation method and then the hypocritical jokers start giving out tickets. 🤡's

[@kylesalmond5719]

Get insurance if you want to use the infrastructure scabs

[@Mu5096rdgh]

@@kylesalmond5719. you can’t get insurance for them.

[@designatedfrozen]

Thats completely outrageous

[@zometthecomet]

Is it really? Look at the laws around E machines 😂 You may not use a privately owned device ! Only lime and other Legal companies can … Also we have brake levers that won us the battle in court … YOU GUYS HAVE NO BRAKES 😂 I CANT 😂

[@chronometer9931]

not in Vancouver, it's legal to ride e-bikes@@zometthecomet

[@moreause]

driving without insurance would probably apply to any bike rider in town If it illegal then it's illegal , i hate when they try to make it illegal by bogus charge lol but since they don't have pedal they probably fall into the realm of motorbike, and you need insurance

[@joeschlotthauer840]

If they run into a car, they'll do $600 in damage or more. Do the sellers inform the buyers of the law?

[@markifi]

running into an expensive car is still the cheap option. running into a pedestrian can go 1000x more expensive pretty easy

[@chronometer9931]

That's not true, you don't know what you're talking about

[@markifi]

what do you mean@@chronometer9931

[@Mr_Nobody913]

You can still run into a car on f’in foot, on a bicycle on a motorcycle, etc. Stop trying to make excuses

[@hanks_2210]

So I have to insure a bicycle? Do I need general liability to walk around anywhere?

[@chrism9976]

Maybe it's because they can travel up to 100 km/h. Who's paying for the damage if they cause a motor vehicle accident?

[@sygad1]

the same person I presume who has a horse and trashes a car, or the 150kg person on a mountain bike hitting a car, speed is only a part of the equation, control and observation are vitally more important

[@happydappyman]

@@sygad1 exactly. I had a friend when I was 12 who ripped down a hill on his bike at probably 50kph into a car. Luckily he flew over the top into someone's yard and was miraculously fine. But that dude's car probably took $1k+ in damage (not that I remember the exact amount, his parents paid it). But considering I got a small hole in my car's bumper and that cost 3k, I'm guessing it was pretty pricey. That's part of the reason I ride a scooter everywhere rather than taking my car. I can run over a screw in the road and there goes 300 bucks for a new tire. Not to mention having to pay for parking and everything else.

[@taxicamel]

The requirement to ride on the streets requires insurance. So if you can't get insurance for these unicycles ....BECAUSE NO INSURANCE COMPANY OFFERS ANY ....then how can the ticket be "nonsensical" when a person goes on the street regardless ....without insurance? Just because people are buying these unicycles does NOT mean they can ignore ANY or ALL the rules of the road. SAFETY, CONTROL, RIDING RESPECT are all problems .....and typically, it is the RIDER who is the problem. From people who think this is a fad and simply copy whatever other people are doing ...which is a very significant % of the public, these people may not have the skills to ride properly and safely. Then there is the aggressive demographic who will ride to the limits and these are the people who will ignore others around and the rules of the road. The word "infrastructure" arises very loosely and without any thought. Hundreds of thousands of vehicles are on the road every day with commuters getting to work and vehicles transporting all the goods needed throughout the cities. This traffic has been around for a hundred years, and now this existing "infrastructure" in place is being cut back to allow for bikes and now electric "NOVELTIES" ....that do in fact infringe on ROAD SAFETY. A "bike lane" doesn't just appear without reducing the size of the vehicle lanes ....and throw in parking lanes ....just adds to the element of SAFETY. NOW, drivers much check these "bike lanes" before opening the driver door. That's ONE issue. The other issue is bike lanes are no different from vehicle lanes. The traffic can only move as fast as the slowest vehicle. Bike riders who are not travelling as fast as others, now are blocking the bike traffic behind them ....and this leads to the aggressive cyclists PASSING SLOW CYCLISTS ....WHICH OFTEN HAS THEM RIDING INTO THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC ....MOST OFTEN AT A MUCH SLOWER SPEED THAN VEHICLE TRAFFIC .....WHICH NOW PUTS TWO CYCLISTS IN DANGER ALONG WITH THE VEHICLE TRAFFIC. One problem is CYCLISTS of any level DO NOT CARE .......BECAUSE THEY HAVE "RIGHTS" .....and look forward to challenging anyone who would challenge their "rights". And to goes the CONFLICT. There IS ONE OPTION THAT WOULD HELP. Make it 100% illegal for any cyclist of any kind, to ride on "MAIN ROADS IN ANY MUNICIPALITY". This would force cyclists to ride on side streets only. No ifs, ands, or buts. Anyone caught riding on a main thoroughfare will be ticketed a very large amount, like $500. When there is a bridge, off the road and walk on the sidewalk. If in a downtown area where there are no side streets, then WALK ONLY ....OR ....designate specific streets for bikes. Then as any "unforeseen" issues arise, that need "legal details" ....follow the foundation parameters to determine any modifications or changes as needed. This WILL be required because cyclists will ALWAYS be looking for ways to circumvent the law. .

[@MathieuTechMoto]

Québec just legalized escooter and EUC's but only up to 25 kmh and 500w, which is absurd, but anybody can drive a huge 6000 lbs oversized Pick-up truck at over 100km/h and nobody cares ...

[@ChasingSkyler]

It's the car centrist society, they can't picture anyone else commuting in something besides 2 tons of steel.

[@accelgamerhd4954]

I didn't read anything about e uc being legal in Quebec but if it's street legal then i say we get some Poutine to celebrate. XD

[@MikaelLevoniemi]

500W EUC would be extra dangerous because it doesn't have the power to go up a hill at its normal operating speed. You'd faceplant immediately if you tried.

[@MathieuTechMoto]

@notexpatjoe but they are still driven by humans and human makes errors, its a lot less probable to have fatalities riding EUC than huge pickup truck full of blind spots

[@MathieuTechMoto]

@notexpatjoe you are right, you are the one who "kills" with a Jeep, you probably wouldn't even feel rolling over somebody ,so yes you are indeed safer, but now more and more people buys "safer" huge pickup trucks who would kill the the driver of a regular car in an accident, so what's next ? Everybody's gonna buy highway cargo trucks ?

[@flynnstone3580]

Do you need to have insurance on an ebike in Vancouver? A license and registration too?

[@prophetzarquon]

For an emoto, yes. (Commuter EUCs like the one seen in this video, all output _thousands_ of Watts, & the top selling models go 50 MPH. _Ebikes don't do that;_ emotos do.)

[@petra_kalbrain4426]

It all depends on the speed of the electric mode of transportation. I have a full size electric moped that looks kind of like a small motorcycle. The speed is governed at 32 km/h and has pedals that are integrated into the driving mechanics to help classify the unit as an “electric bicycle.” With that classification it does not require a license or insurance and is to be operated/treated as a bicycle. The only major rules allotted to it are that anyone on the scooter (driving it or passenger) must be 16+ years old and it’s not allowed on the Sea Wall around Stanley Park for public safety as that bike path gets insanely busy with other pedestrians/cyclists. Otherwise, it must stick to bike lanes as much as possible. It’s quite nice because I can literally park it anywhere since it is classified as a bicycle. So, I don’t have to pay for gas, for insurance, or for parking. AND, I get the best parking spots available (right near the front door of wherever I am visiting, against the building - as long as it isn’t blocking any sidewalks or doors). 😎

[@MikelRChannel]

There are rules? What rules? Police are issuing ticket in order to make easy money out of these tax paying unicyclist. While putting a blind eye on auto theft, robbery, crimes and illegal drugs. How convenient!

[@apparentlynot1stLeonchubbs]

Absolute CROCK OF SH** ...I don't own one..don't plan on it. BUT I've watched enough videos to damn near be an expert on them 💪 I support all these fancy new types of electric vehicles!! They belong on whatever infrastructure we deem appropriate for bicycles. They are going equivalent speeds and are similar in weight (if we talk ebikes) And safety is no more a concern on these than ANY vehicle that isn't an enclosed shell of metal for it's operator. Sick and tired of 2 ton metal boxes getting free pass after forking free pass. I know which type of transportation I'D rather have an accident with, that's for damn sure. Try to find some stats on how many people electric unicycle riders have killed. Go ahead.. I'm totally gonna wait here. And by wait here I mean, my YT notifications are ON lol

[@braddragon1812]

I love you.❤❤

[@hobowalker1]

Politicians and cops are not a PEV’s rider friend. They see the chance to cash grab and go for it.

[@frenkenberg]

If you can't insure it, then why is this going on your Driver's Licence Record?!!!

[@DeTransAllianceCanada]

Because ANY driving of an off road vehicle driven on public roads goes against your drivers license. That is why the fines are specified as operating an uninsured vehicle on a public road

[@eucmike]

@@DeTransAllianceCanada Realy dumb because if you don't have a licence nothing goes on record..

[@petergibson7287]

Because the silly fool gave the cop his driver's licence! Really dumb.

[@Tugela60]

Everyone who is in BC has a drivers license of sorts, since the services card is on the same system.

[@drill_fiend1097]

City councils do this and wonder why they fail to make their city sustainable 😂

[@prophetzarquon]

To capitalists, "sustainable" just means "can profit from it long enough to dump the costs onto someone else"

[@stinkyham9050]

​@@prophetzarquonYou live in a capitalist society. If you don't like it perhaps go try living in a communist one and see which you prefer. I'm guessing you'd come right back to a capitalist one.

[@greenwave819]

EUC are the future. what an amazing and clean way to transport!!

[@shauny2285]

They're great until you try to carry your grocery bags home on one.

[@greenwave819]

@@shauny2285 I have a very cheap e bike for that/with rack

[@raymond9642]

@@shauny2285 I ride an electric scooter and I just wear a backpack.

[@georgieman1910]

@@shauny2285 pffft...I've carried far heavier items on an EUC before. Or wear a backpack

[@wesleyson21]

Yeah I got an inexpensive food delivery bag for larger grocery runs. I can put up to about 30lbs. of stuff and still ride just fine. If I have to get anything really big I still have to drive my car though.

[@RadiantFreeEnergyResearch]

it’s wonderful to see micro mobility actually being utilized as an alternative to the several thousand pound automobile driving around with one person in the vehicle. it is one of the many and one of the most important jobs of cities, to create pathways for communities to embrace micro mobility.

[@wc4109]

How are these different from e-scooters (but they are allowed)?? Ticketing on technicality is stupid & money grabber...

[@markifi]

e scooters have 250 watts, this has 2500. i understand having enough power to balance the rider is necessary in an euc, but this is something the police can't just glance over. laws need to change to add an exception, or the euc-s have to be neutered in software so they only go slow even despite the power they have

[@d_duck1601]

Old people in power moment.

[@J.D.Vision]

Old people? What, are you 12? 😂

[@d_duck1601]

@@J.D.Vision Bruh, politics is dominated by senile people who can barely operate a smart phone and remote controller for a TV. If they at least tried to understand the modern world in stead of being stuck in their past. But no, OUT WITH THE OLD

[@PaulG.x]

absolutely correct I'm 65 but I identified this problem years ago. It also seems to be a peculiarly people of English descent problem too. "There should be a law against it" they chant

[@GPz84]

Good.

[@TheRaferaf]

I think those things are as cool as can be and thought about getting one myself but I saw a dude weaving through traffic the other day and thought to myself that it's only a matter of time before they crack down on those things.

[@gabinator1177]

Then get one and demonstrate to the public that we are a respectable bunch :)

[@TheRaferaf]

@gabinator1177 I don't have a spare $600 sitting around.

[@gabinator1177]

@@TheRaferaf Me neither, and because the tickets don’t get held up in court, I didn’t have to pay mine. Also since December, the 3 cops (that’s right, there’s only 3 of em) that give out tickets have only been giving out warnings.

[@Paul-ik8fm]

So if you ride a normal bicycle you need insurance?

[@BlueRiverBomber]

Only for powered vehicles

[@ryanw1779]

This is not a unicycle. It has no pedals so it’s really a handle-less Segway. Bicycles and ebikes with pedals are allowed.

[@Mu5096rdgh]

You can’t win can you? “Don’t pollute the air with car fumes but you can ride a bicycle and risk getting hit by a car”

[@JesusFriedChrist]

Kind of reminds me of how, for decades, skateboarding was illegal on the road and sidewalk. Legally you could only do it on private property or at a public skatepark. It was a $25 ticket iirc from its inception in the 90’s, up until it was finally repealed around 2016 or so.

[@braddragon1812]

You get it.

[@chalkfarm11]

Ridiculous. We should be encouraging less cars on the road.

[@olier1]

of couse. You`ll own nothing be happy. Stop this greenwashing bollocks.

[@igorgoga7985]

No one is against insurance, we just can't buy it and the three cops know it when they give tickets, it must be fun, much safer than facing real crime

[@florenceyoung1772]

Sorry but I’m against insurance.

[@igorgoga7985]

@@florenceyoung1772 then pay damages from your own pocket if you can, I can't

[@florenceyoung1772]

@everydaytenor8862 I wouldn't ride if I had to pay $100 a month for insurance. Also, Im a risk taker.

[@igorgoga7985]

@@florenceyoung1772 think about being a risk taker when you owe millions. Empowering

[@gregorymalchuk272]

Buying insurance for a unicycle is insane.

[@DooubleTap]

Sue the cops, you will make $, This is a LEGAL electric bicycle. I have used this too for a LONG time, on parliament hill and IN malls everywhere in Ottawa, they can't enforce this. (Just the speed is watched, 30km/ tops)

[@MikeBaxterABC]

why would they not qualify as an e-Bike???

[@redMaple_QC]

Those things are dangerous. They go fast and have no protection. People use them in bike's lane when they should be on the street.

[@mtnunicycler]

🌺 54 year old woman here, new to euc riding in Sacramento, California area. Wow! It's So much fun!! I've been staying in the bike lane so far as I'm going less than 15mph, and wearing full reflect and protect gear 💖

[@BN99239]

Maybe if more discussions are needed THEN DON'T FINE PEOPLE IN THE MEANTIME? What utter BS.

[@access_all_areas]

Illegal to use in the UK. Mechanically propelled vehicle. Must be registered, taxed and insured. Since they can’t be registered or insured they shouldn’t be on the road. I’d love to use one but not going to illegally.

[@SCM0NDT]

Make stupid laws, win stupid prizes. Lawmakers should go to prison for such stupidity.

[@jeffreyclement3564]

Then make a law about it.

[@SCM0NDT]

@@jeffreyclement3564 😂😂😂 I just shake my head.... You won the prize.

[@Some_One_One]

#1 stop telling police that you're carrying ID when you're not driving

[@geographyinaction7814]

It's Canada, good luck with that. You must show ID.

[@Some_One_One]

@@geographyinaction7814 Not if you're not carrying it!

[@TreeStump-and-CheeseKetchupIT]

@@geographyinaction7814 Don't be a liar.

[@randysgutful]

@@geographyinaction7814 this isn't true.

[@bentdrum]

@@geographyinaction7814 Not true. But legally you do have to give your correct name.

[@jamie85200]

Those tickets should get thrown out, that's ridiculous. How can you ticket someone for a law that isn't there

[@cheapmovies25]

U cant stop whats coming...

[@gregorystiller975]

That’s what she said!

[@cdn_badger]

It's absolutely ridiculous! I live in a small Vancouver Island town policed by the RCMP. For over a year I rode around on my V10F with no issues. I'd wave to the Police cars as we passed. Recently, since I bought my Sherman S back in March they got a new officer on their force that does not like them. He's ticketed one rider I know of. Has threatened me with a fine if he ever see's me in public again. Turns out after a chat with a more reasonable officer, the bike paths along our freeway is CRD regulated and does NOT have any restrictions. Still allot of grey area out there.

[@who_wantsit]

I heard the word "Safe", everytime i hear that, I see money going to the local government.

[@Mangolite]

I suggest suing the police or court for the unidentifiable charge and appealing every loss until a law is in place. The e-unicycle should be in the same category as a bicycle or e-bike.

[@jerome1lm]

the charge is pretty clear. it needs to be insured.

[@StarrDust0]

They are about as risky as bikes, escooters, etc...and I think they belong on the road, plus they're powerful and can keep up with traffic. I think cities just have to accept them...since we accept other vehicles that can also harm pedestrians. Frankly I think if the rider is trained we have nothing to worry about.

[@rtaskyy]

If theyre as risky as bikes then why do most riders wear full motorcycle gear or at least a full face helmet when they ride them? They typically go much faster than a bike thats probably a big part of the reason.

[@brushlessmotoring]

@@rtaskyy not everyone rides EUCs fully geared, but it’s mostly a defense against hit by a car, or the wheel getting clipped and dumping you. Arguably e-scooter riders should be similarly suited up, and some do.

[@jimmux_v0]

​@@rtaskyyI've spent years commuting by bicycle and now EUC. It's much safer now, because these electric devices can respond to dangerous situations much better. And I wear all the safety gear because I can. I wish I did when a bike crash put me in hospital with a head injury and much missing skin, but it's not practical to pedal with while geared up.

[@jimmux_v0]

@@everydaytenor8862 I'm not sure how that relates to what I said? I would get insurance if I could, but at least I know I'm less likely to hurt myself or others on EUC than when I was cycling. I know that's hard for observers to understand, but if you spend much time riding them it's obvious. Also it has regenerative braking. Stopping distance can be a bit longer, but in emergencies it maintains better control while braking, which has saved me and others multiple times.

[@SherriFlemming]

Long overdue enforcement. These people that buy a gizmo without checking local and provincial regulations first.

[@MadMax-cw3pn]

In Australia as long as it's not over a certain power output there's no issues. E scooters are now parked in rows on street corners in the city to be used by any member of the public just need to pay by a phone app on the scooter.

[@lordmaster666]

The city is mad that less people are driving cars. It means less revenue via traffic tickets and parking fines, so they gotta go after easy targets to punish them. "How DARE you use an electric unicycle? So you can potentially break less laws? Unacceptable"

[@juzeus9]

car insurance is a multi-billion dollar extortion racket.

[@grb1969]

Insurance companies make money by passing through higher expenses to a wider audience. The problem with widespread adoption of Electric Unicycles is that they are so much safer than cars, motorcycles or bikes that the cost of accidents injuries or property damages would quickly bankrupt the insurers (not enough overhead), the cities (not enough tickets) and the big box stores (not enough cargo capacity). Local stores and cafes might flourish but it doesn't seem that Government is interested in saving the middle-class. So, the time to downsize to an EUC is now!

[@brushlessmotoring]

It is possible to own a car and an EUC, and pick the vehicle most appropriate for the task when heading out the door ....

[@chronometer9931]

an EUC is good for every task and is always the better choice. Why would you want to own a vehicle?@@brushlessmotoring

[@dmitripogosian5084]

@@chronometer9931 Sure, next time I'll take my skies up Cypress Mountain on unicycle ...

[@dmitripogosian5084]

Yep, they are so safe that riders are in full body armor in the video

[@sleekspeed22]

What's the stopping distance for them from top speed and avg speed. Seems like there might be a safety issue compared to bicycles.

[@br1264]

It is not a unicycle, there are no pedals. It is an electric wheel that can go 50+ MPH. Yes insurance should be a requirement for them, and for electric motorcycles as well.

[@kouta360TB]

Should e-bikes and eboards that go above 30 mph also get the same treatment? It’s a scam. The government wants the money because we are not paying car insurance.People get them to save money instead of buying a car with insurance.

[@markifi]

@@kouta360TB maybe not the same treatment, it's a silly and excessive fine, but you have to see that desigining infrastructure for someone going 15 miles an hour and someone doing 30-45 is a completely different kind of thing. with cycling infrastructure practically still in it's infancy in most places, these devices are kind of an unwelcome complication. i on the acoustic bike will hit you with maybe 3 kilojoules, 5-6 if i sprint hard before impact. i'm compatible with pedestrians. a heavy rider on a heavy wheel (say 100 kilo plus 50 wheel going 45 miles an hour) can be 30 kilojoules. if i understand right the wheels need the power to be safe as it's impossible to brake and balance on only 250 watts

[@gregorymalchuk272]

The government should not be regulating unicycles at all. Insurance to own a unicycle is insane.

[@markifi]

@@gregorymalchuk272 you have any idea how expensive a personal injury lawsuit is? if you're able to go over 35 miles an hour you need insurance. the insane thing would be not having insurance

[@ricknash3055]

FYI folks, by ticketing, the police hasten the laws to address these modes of transportation. Better than having an unregulated form of transportation which remains undecided which laws apply to it. Injuries including death will occur to riders and to other people. An electric unicycle is bound by the laws of physics and due to its design will exhibit unique differences for collision avoidance. Example, what is the average stopping distance a 180 pound person traveling at 40 kph?

[@MrDmadness]

Under 10 feet