B.J. Armstrong ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED the Current NBA Playstyle!

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[@ajjones5504]

Best era in NBA Basketball (in my opinion) 1979 - 1999

[@Mandownsports]

@@ajjones5504 I can see that

[@mobrown1198]

I would extend to the early 2010’s… although the 90’s was defensive heavy ~ thanks Pat Riley and the Knicks/ Heat who ushered it in the mid to late 90’s and other coaches emulated and built their teams “defensive “ first. Popovich, Larry Brown, even Doc Rivers to an extent, Phil Jackson.. There was still great competition and physical defense, and position based basketball ~ LeBron, Silver, player empowerment movement..after the lockout, sullied the game… the offensive rule changes, further devolved the purity and quality of the game! I started watching and understanding what I was watching in 77-78, the first of back to back Finals matchups of the Sonics and Bullets… I haven’t enjoyed watching the NBA since 2016… though my feelings changed after the lockout. That was the tipping point of no return for me personally.

[@ajjones5504]

@ Yeah so that’s why my reference start was 79 with the Sonics NBA title. I pretty much agree with your assessment - The one thing that holds true is that the league office and Adam Silver have indeed legislated defense out of the NBA game and that is what REALLY troubles me most.

[@ajjones5504]

Let me get Stevie Francis for $1,000 in this era ……… boy was FILTHY !!!!!!

[@deddiev1718]

Extend that to 2009 at least

[@michaelsilberg9059]

Adam Silver saw MJ and got confused. He steered the league from a competition that requires leadership to a skills exhibition promoting individual players starting with LeBron.

[@Mandownsports]

Great assessment

[@upgradeyourmindset3265]

Anytime this topic is discussed with the new generation all they do is deflect by saying this era is "more skilled" or there's "more competition". Not only are both statements inaccurate but they're also irrelevant to the conversation. A guy being able to dribble and shoot today has nothing to do with the lackluster defense being played and the rules that allow those "skilled" players to look better than what they are. And how is the competition better when guys don't want to compete? Make it make sense

[@madot09]

😂 yea more skilled and less watched how does that make sense

[@TheOrthodoxMoor]

That Mavs team with J Kidd, Jamal Mashburn, Jim Jackson and George Mcloud was built for this era...They would run cats now....

[@sportjames23]

They would absolutely FEAST in this era.

[@TOP_OF_NEW_YORK]

Glenn Rice, Mitch Richmond, and Dražen Petrović would crush in this era.

[@Mandownsports]

No doubt about it

[@crharper25]

Omg....they'd murder this era.

[@TOP_OF_NEW_YORK]

@crharper25 Yes, sir! All of them were deadly scorers. Efficient scorers. Killer mid-range. Could create their own shot. Could drive effectively. Excellent free-throw shooters. Effective and deadly from 3.

[@K_Reezee75]

Drazen Petrovic talked smack to MJ. Loved his game may he RIP. He went too soon.

[@TOP_OF_NEW_YORK]

@@K_Reezee75 agreed!

[@theformatpodcast1847]

Exactly my brother. Great points. But that is EXACTLY WHY they can NEVER truly bring back real defense. Because the lies they've been telling us for two decades now will be EXPOSED and so will the players that have been propped up over that same stretch. #theformatpodcast

[@Mandownsports]

@@theformatpodcast1847 that's a fact!

[@theshogunsassassin5122]

Put Chris Jackson in this era! Man!

[@GhostNinjaTactical]

That’s what I’m saying, guys like Rauf, Reggie, Mitch, Glenn Rice, Penny, Larry, etc would absolutely light these kids up. No doubt about it. Shiet, MJ probably can score 80 no problem whenever he wants in this era.

[@damoncooper8093]

he may be better than Steph.

[@ahmadfaisal6267]

* Mahmoud Abdul-Raouf

[@rodneyjohnson5457]

Mark Price was special.

[@joeysweet9045]

Yes he was he was special in college at GT also!!

[@TOP_OF_NEW_YORK]

Great point by Armstrong. If I could score 25ppg in an era where there were the most deterrents, then I would definitely score in an era where there is less resistance

[@tajgibson8776]

If Adam silver told the reffs to allow hand checking while the offensive player has the ball, at least 80% of current NBA players will not score over 20 points in a single game because you will be able to hold them and reach in to steal the ball, which something MJ was a master at doing.

[@dewanewelch1744]

The crazy thing is you are absolutely right 2 seasons ago at the very beginning of the year they said that they were going to dial back on calling so many whistles and all the guards numbers were all the way down they complained so much that they had to start blowing the whistles again after about 20 games

[@mr.perfect1749]

​@dewanewelch1744 plus they had to do it to justify the Lakers getting a record margin of free throws

[@jacobstrouble6631]

The worst part about todays NBA is that when we can see the team's shots aren't falling, you may as well turn the game off. Cold from 3? There's nothing they can do to win. And it's amazing how often the whole team is cold. Like what the hell is that about?

[@MaximusR93]

They really don’t know how to play any other way. It’s amazing how diversified the skill sets used to be, guys individually couldn’t do everything on the court, but what they did they did very well. Now guys can do most things on the court, but they don’t know how to play off of each other and don’t know any other system than is or high pick and rolls

[@BassKat169]

If a team would shoot the easy shots at closer range they dominate the league.

[@SmoothieT33]

Adam Silver is the Jerry Jones of the NBA.

[@criles202]

Straight garbage now, I canceled my league pass this season (7 years subscription )The latest brand of NBA basketball is so horrible that all players ( for the most part) are expected to chuck up a three-point shot regardless of their percentage. The best defense now is to allow /leave a trash shooter wide open to shoot an uncontested 3-point shot.

[@fithealth247]

This is why I don't put any of these new era cats over guys in the 80s,90s, early 2000s...even 70s. Those eras were all allowed to play physical defense. We saw what true versatile dominant scorers were able to do against defenses. These dudes in this era don't have to go up against anything like that. We see them putting up high points in the worse defensive rating era in history. Not even the fastest pace era of the 1960s had a defensive rating as worse as this era. No where near it despite the fast pace. Steph would be a 17-18 ppg scorer in the 90s. His first couple of years when he wasn't jacking up all these threes, he was scoring 18-20 ppg on average. His game is just too one dimensional as a smaller guard to be an elite scorer back then. We saw how versatile Reggie was and he was a bigger guard and he was a 18-19 ppg scorer. Mitch was a 21-25 ppg s scorer. All versatile. Plus Steph having to deal with that physicality as an injury prone player..I don't see his body holding up back then.

[@Bighjr88]

On your channel my brother, I said the same thing BJ is saying, in a comment before and this why I really don’t talk to a lot of younger people because they never seen what I seen and most of them DONT want to know history because they want to be right so much today instead of learning.

[@Mandownsports]

Good point

[@Bighjr88]

@@MandownsportsI’m 54, so I grew up in a more respectful society in the hood and that’s what the hood don’t have today, nobody respects each other.

[@sportjames23]

🎯🎯🎯

[@mobrown1198]

• Another issue with the younger generation, is they were born after the 90’s, and by the time they understood what they were watching, the game had already changed ~ the lockout was the tipping point… which killed the older era’s and was a clear demarcation between every other era in the NBA, and the modern era. Where analytics, the offensive rule changes, the coaching philosophy changed and it was purposely done… I agree with your assessment, with the NBA believing that the older fans were locked in and wouldn’t leave the game. 2012~ just like the Movie, is when everything changed.

[@SHAMETV78]

Actual Defense would be the end of the Euro players. I've heard more than several NBA vets say so. They say defense and physical play is why the euro players weren't so prevalent back then. Especially being the faces of the league.. Just the hand check would literally eliminate 50% of the top players in this game...

[@youngskyler7568]

Facts

[@tajgibson8776]

False! Kobe played in Europe where he grew up and its called fundamentals. Tim Duncan played in Europe, also Dirk Nowitzski who was drafted in 1996 played in the hand checking era with Kobe in the hand checking era and they both averaged over 25ppg

[@dwayne1star317]

🤣not just Europe players

[@crharper25]

What would happen is....the best of the best from the euro leagues would make it. Just like back then.

[@MaximusR93]

I mean, it would be interesting to see how Giannis would adapt to them calling travels, how would Luca adapt to physical defense. But Jokic to me has always played the right way in terms of playing physical. He’s really the only post player we have left. I think he would thrive in prior eras especially with the two big men playing. Beyond all that, though, the American system of developing players is pretty bad, everyone complains about AAU basketball and college aren’t able to teach fundamentals to the really good pros who end up being one and done. And really, the euro league is way more physical than the current NBA.

[@Mark-Anthony601]

They love stats. Doesn't the stats say that Oscar was better than Steph? The same with Wilt and anybody? Love the soup analogy.

[@Mandownsports]

@@Mark-Anthony601 pretty much

[@chris2773976]

Just like the military, a Marine can join the Army, Navy and Air Force without going through their boot camp,but they all have to go through Marine Corps boot camp to join.

[@Trashman702]

lol run that to a DEVGRU or PJ guy and revisit your comment

[@mobrown1198]

The league was not a drug infested league ~ that narrative is overblown… the league had the same issues as every other league ~ Baseball had a huge drug scandal, as did Football… That caller must’ve been listening to Gilbert Arenas too much… Society in general had a drug issue. David Stern rode MJ, Magic and Larry Bird coattails. The best things he did~ the Lottery, and making the game global

[@edwardtatum6136]

Past NBA commissioners before Stern, OBrian, Kennedy and Podolak which was first.

[@MrJoshbaby1]

Great story Kenny told before that shows u the difference of what an NBA player had to go through back in the day that doesn't exist in today's game which is the mental aspect. One time against the Pistons when he was a Rocket he caught fire must of hit like 3-4 straight 3s in a crucial part of the game and Chuck Daly calls timeout. Now Kenny looked up to Isiah & Joe Dumars they were he's idols and he thought Joe was the nicest guy on the team. As they were going to their bench they crossed each other's path and Joe elbowed or punched him in his stomach. So on the bench Kenny couldn't get his mind off the fact that Joe hit him in his stomach he couldn't concentrate or focus on what the coach was saying. Someone who Kenny was telling the story to asked him did he make anymore 3s and Kenny replied no it through him complete off for the rest of the game. Bro back then them dudes were so real, mind games and all, everybody was on that kind of time even the nicest of guys 😂. How can I put today's shooters above those guys when they don't go through none of that, they just out here shooting freely untouched nice kind of basketball 😂. The mental part of the game is completely gone and the league went from playing chess to playing checkers.

[@sportjames23]

Real talk.💯

[@Q.B.2.L.B.]

Mel been saying this for a while now. I get so much heat for it, but relaxing the rules and allowing players to carry, travel, etc. shows the talk of players being "bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled" is a narrative. I think Abdul-Rauf would be a steph if he played in this era.

[@Mandownsports]

@@Q.B.2.L.B. facts

[@mobrown1198]

And…. Not all are bigger faster stronger. Look at the power forwards of the modern game, smaller and weaker than in previous era’s… What modern fans see is the open lanes, and aesthetically it appears that the players are more athletic, because they get to see them run downhill, uninhibited to the rim ~ getting to showcase their athleticism without any resistance… They get to see players handle the ball like Ali-Mo from the and 1 mixtape tour~ (RIP) In essence, they don’t know what they are watching.

[@TOP_OF_NEW_YORK]

Banger after banger, Mel!

[@Mandownsports]

Already

[@chessaudiobooks3079]

Larry O Brien was commissioner before Stern. Thats who the NBA championship trophy is named after

[@abdatruthteller5895]

My think is when Adam Silver say that he changed the roles so that folks like Steph Curry could have an easier time to showcase their talent is a pure lie! Because all you have to do is go back and watch Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf in the 90's and that will tell it all. Hell he gave MJ the business before A.I did.

[@Reformedtousen]

The Euroleague is better then NBA rn

[@andytaylor6781]

❤❤absolutely 💯 good topics, real basketball is dying, somethings got to change

[@JSportsFacts]

@mandownsports your so right, I can see Marcus Smart being better than a lot of these Star guards if they were in 90’s rules

[@criles202]

Larry O Brien was the NBA commissioner before David Stern

[@sanalawhorn2113]

We talk about this era that era but what about the era of the ABA League which merged into the NBA yet Stats , and accomplishments are not counted , this takes away from how we Tally Goat Status !

[@JSportsFacts]

My Todays Players All 90’s rules team : Fox- JBrown- Banchero-Ghannis-DAyton SCastle-MSmart-Jaron Jackson-Bam- Zack Edy

[@bigmalcolmlittle]

He said we might find out KD wasn't him lol. KD won 3 scoring titles in a row 2010, 11,12 before Adam Silver took over the league in 2014. Yeah Mel I think you are tripping a little bit.

[@Myname_Myname753]

The Thunder Organization came to SGA & told him he should shoot more 3s this year smh If it's not broke why fix it? NBA is literally ruining its players w/ the style of play Everybody isn't GSW

[@Poky-65]

Good segment and overall assessment, Adam Silver never learned anything from David Stern, the formula is vastly simple, and great defense creates pure offense it was the NBA ecosystem for a long time. Creating a platform for less defense has thinned out the purity of today’s offense.

[@damoncooper8093]

imagine Mich Richmond in this era. Chris Mullen would avg 30.

[@bazookablvd]

I would argue that Mahmoud Abdul Rauf “Chris Jackson” was Steph before steph… A better shooter and more athletic than that of mark price

[@bigmezzy8345]

Merry Christmas eve brotha. I'm here for it💪🏾

[@johnnylee8483]

Awesome comparison with Step and Mark Price!!!! SPOT ON!!

[@Mandownsports]

@@johnnylee8483 it really is

[@dewanewelch1744]

I been telling people that Price was under rated.

[@Bighjr88]

You started speaking that gospel at 7:15👊🏾

[@GranFinale]

Adam Silver should just admit that he needs the game weaker for a more global audience and is willing to sacrifice North American markets.

[@Mandownsports]

@@GranFinale he kinda did that already lol 😆

[@GranFinale]

@Mandownsports Then why pretend you don't know why ratings are down or why there are so many 3's ? 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Mandownsports]

@@GranFinale that's a dang good question 🤔

[@tajgibson8776]

He told KG, he will not bring back hand checking or get rid of defensive 3 seconds, because it will slow the game down, with low scores.

[@Mandownsports]

@tajgibson8776 dang shame

[@delconagher12]

I disagree! Max level skill players like Steph, would still be a version of themselves no matter what era. The main problem is we really can't compare players who played with different rules. "SKAP ATTAK" did a series about who's the GOAT in every era. That's how everybody should tackle this. Players like Shaq and Lebron would not have a long career if they played in the 80's or 90's but they still would be freak athletes. They probably won't be as lazy developing their game if they played in that era, but nobody really knows? Because they were lazy during their time and relied so much on their athleticism.

[@DavidL-fz9hx]

The thing with hyping up longevity stats is you can't ignore the bad stats..or pretend they don't matter..

[@Hockeybaseballfan40]

I'm watching college basketball more than the NBA

[@antonioladd186]

Mark Price was an underestimated bucket getter

[@card-pull-king]

Since when does the middle class have money? And something i never hear is when AI got in trouble his high-school coach let him come stay with him for years. He had stability when he was doing his thing at Georgetown

[@mobrown1198]

The tipping point is happening soon, I already see younger content creators who are becoming disenchanted with the modern game. It will happen, sooner rather than later… Cuban, Jordan. Boston Celtics owner… all jump ship.. the tipping point is coming soon.

[@Milehigh_]

Larry Obrien was the commissioner before David Stern

[@larrythomas3373]

I agree with BJ it is hard to have the debate on era’s because rules play a huge factor.

[@killablackmambakbm7593]

As much as I don't like this era. It isn't the worst. The worst era by far is the 50s. The shot clock didn't even start til 1954. Prior dudes were holding the call half the time and you got 34-19 scores. The lane had to be widened because of George Mikan to about 12 feet then because of Wilt had to be widened to 16 feet. No steals or blocks recorded officially. No dpoy til 83 so no telling how many russel, wilt, Kareem had. Blocks didn't count til Kareem 5th season so he likely is far ahead of Hakeem and Motumbo even. The 70s is worse based on the fact that the best players were in the aba like Dr J, Barry, Gervin, Dawkins etc for much of their primes. The high level of drug issues and selfish ball overall mudding the game then hurt it too. At worst today is behind the 80s, 90s, 2000s and maybe the 2010s but even the 2010 is similar to today . I can argue the 60s are worse too. Only rounds to reach the finals. This is why Duncan, Bron etc have way less rings than russel but won more playoff series. All it takes is a sprain ankle to Cousy, Russel to cause the Cs to lose. 4 rounds consistently over 3 is years more on your basketball career. Because of no blocks and steals we don't even know wilt real triple doubles . He likely has 350+ honestly. We can't even record the greatness of those guys.

[@joeyo5952]

I never really thought about MJ and Mark selling their respective teams. Its deeper than we think. It has become a soap opera. Merry Christmas Man Down Sports and to everyone❤️🙏🏻

[@Mandownsports]

Definitely a soap opera. Especially the media

[@joeyo5952]

@@Mandownsports keep up the great work. Wishing everyone an awesome 2025🙏🏻❤️

[@mobrown1198]

Past era’s had the “soup Nazi soup” modern era has hot dog water with onions soup. No comparison.

[@CurtisT1019]

Why aren’t coaches implementing their own style of play instead of everyone shooting 3-pointers as if they have Steph and Klay on their team?

[@Mandownsports]

Great question 🤔

[@CurtisT1019]

@ I think the league mandated it from the top. They foolishly think more points and long range shots equate to more ratings and money. They are wrong.

[@dwadeisajerk]

The will clapp shirt is priceless 😂😂

[@Mandownsports]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Ksmoove39]

Let’s also point out that out that guys had less injuries back in 80s and 90s and even early 2000s and they played hard all the time…hows is everything better but it looks worse today?

[@didivieira3448]

NBA scared to market brown cause he’s a educated black man that speaks his mind UNLIKE bron which can be bought 100

[@robertwise4521]

Now that's a statement. The best from the worse era can't be the best.

[@Mandownsports]

@@robertwise4521 true statement as well

[@princellasmith7562]

Bring back handchecking. That would solve the excessive three point problem, the no defense problem, and the no competition problem.

[@princellasmith7562]

Investigating the threes is wild. 😂😂😂😂 That’s just Adam Silver’s way of saying that they might try to think of a way to answer the complaints. “Investigate” is a funny word to use. 😂😂😂

[@Mandownsports]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@theformatpodcast1847]

Anyone who has Paul George as the GOAT CLEARLY has no understanding of what the acronym G. O. A. T. means. 🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️ #theformatpodcast

[@PureGameHoops]

@mandownsports, What happened to HIP HOP is exactly what you're watching go down with the NBA.

[@littylittrice]

Steph is the only player really go by the old rules they grab and hold him. They do everything he they need to try to do to stop. You don’t get it and get no calls.

[@LatestDecember8907]

This what I’m saying horrible example

[@kauffamn1016]

37:20, but Zion is the poster child for fast food .

[@Lakernation101]

@man down sports Larry O'Brien was the commissioner before David Stern

[@adambarrett9949]

Bronny James' bs contract is worth more than Dr j retired with. This generation got things all the way FCKD up Also Adam silver is like the investment banker commissioner. Seems to be how he moves

[@darylwilliams5770]

How about giving BJ some props...he would be right there with Steph Dame & Trae for a MAX contract as a featured guard. At minimum he would be overpaid on potential.

[@brockmerridith7102]

Steph is legit..Larry Obrien was the commish b4 Stern

[@Q.B.2.L.B.]

Steph is legit in THIS ERA. He would not be who he is in the golden era.

[@deddiev1718]

Sorry 1980 to 2010. That’s Magics first Championship to Kobes last Championship. That is the greatest basketball

[@michaelbatts3691]

Definitely Mark Price could shoot just as good as Steph Curry. Mark Price didn't miss

[@Dee-7414]

Do you know I have people in this very day and age tell me to my face that my favorite player wasn't. B.J. Armstrong. I grew up as a Bulls fan. Everyone else seemed to grow up as a Michael Jordan fan. Do I know what everybody knows Yes and a little bit more. But who I related to on the court who I felt my personal was with him. That's basically who I felt I reflected the most. My cousin was Michael Jordan personified in everything he did? He tried to do everything like Jordan, with no shame. Look how stupid ESPN is man. They could have you and look at the ratings that they would have had,But we got you so we appreciate you....🏀🏀🏀🏀🏀

[@Mandownsports]

BJ was one of my favorites too

[@TruthSerum-b7o]

I think Mark Jackson is the wrong example. Steph = Muhammad Abdul Rauf in the 90s. ✅️

[@michaelt1154]

So lets be clear. We forgot that Lebron 1st go round in Cleveland the nba was way different. The league we still post dominate. Lebron just been around so long that he's into a new time in the league and he's evolved with it.

[@michaelbarnes2126]

Nah bruh. The Celtics won the title, the owner paid and brought everyone back and then he put the team up for sale smh

[@frankiefernandez9225]

Merry Christmas 🎄🎄🎄Man Down Sports and all your fans coming from the island of Guam 🇬🇺🇬🇺🇬🇺✌🏽🫶🤙🏽

[@jstephens8791]

I can say this, when it comes to Steph Curry, Steph was already changing the game with his shooting before the rule change. Look what Steph did to Kobe in a PRESEASON game, Kobe was all over him… Steph pushed off Kobe and hit a three in his face. That’s old school basketball. Steph has a mental toughness about him that even the Mamba had to say he’s a stone cold killer bc of Steph’s calmness. I get your point but Steph is different.

[@youngskyler7568]

That mf said you sound like somebody that actually have teeth 😂😂😂😂

[@Mandownsports]

@@youngskyler7568 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@courtneyboykin4114]

LeBron James is Carlos Rodgers

[@ChristopherMosley-dj3kt]

In my opinion you can't even be considered an all-time great player if you spent the majority or all of your career playing in the 21st century

[@Mandownsports]

I agree

[@b-gamer340]

Facts

[@image1812]

you would need physical defenders to play on that level to expose people on that level, brother

[@jessegonzalez4518]

Yo always 💯 correct! You can't create a diamond without pressure... Finally someone besides me said mark price would run these kids 😂😂😂😂

[@wallacesharpe]

I agree with you 100 percent mandown and very great anaylsis on the differnt eras because I have lived through both eras and never heard anybody brake it down like you did also I think Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was better than Steph even though I like Steph and his entire family

[@Mandownsports]

@@wallacesharpe Mahmoud was very good and ahead if his time

[@mrfireworks1000]

the G league has all power foward

[@darrellbarnes2096]

To add Man Down, these guys travel, carry, and flop! You couldn't do that in the 80s, 90s!

[@Mandownsports]

Facts

[@rodneyjohnson5457]

Magic was a foot taller than the pg's of his era and he didn't guard them back

[@czarbeat]

Mark Price would be like Steve Nash but John Stockton in this era would be the first player to average 25 pts and 20 ast per game plus 4 stls per game.

[@ScottRachelson777]

Golden-aged piners always think their era was special.

[@HitEm213]

I didn't make to 30 years..... Bro! 5:19 For all the reasons you speak of. I'd rather watch Man down than what the product the nba offer's this days....

[@kaworuc]

I think without getting handcheck back. just told the ref to normally call out all those travelling and carrying. and allow play NORMAL defense. then they already find out a lot of players are already NOT as SKILLED as they try to mention.

[@kentagious1246]

Adam Silver pulled it off because of Systematic Racism point blank period.

[@tajgibson8776]

Nope! He listen to idiot fans who wanted to see small ball in the NBA, which led to small lineups on teams and no big men in the paint.

[@DeeboX-vv8ji]

Bro, No John Stockton? 😢

[@Mandownsports]

#5 or #6

[@bookieallen7448]

Mark Price was A better version of Dame Lillard in the 90’s

[@sultan111111]

LeBron, the Zio, is ruining the Lakers and the NBA

[@nathanlarson3632]

I can actually name more point guards I would take over Steph curry as the best point gaurd( Kevin Johnston, John Stockton, Tony Parker, Steve Francis, D-wayde, Isiah Thompson, Rid Strickland, Jason Kid, Tim hardaway, etc….i could go and on!!) as far as the best shooter(Bird, Mark Price, abual Raheem(Denver point Gaurd that kneeled for the National anthem and got ran out if the Leauge, etc…)

[@Mandownsports]

Great list 👌

[@EyesWideOpen0824]

This league is watered down you start them way in the back

[@bigmalcolmlittle]

LeBron was averaging 28 points on 48 to 50 percent shooting in the same error as Kobe bro. Like BJ said it's good for Barber Shop talk and content but you can't compare really.

[@ericjordan6059]

LeBron numbers didn't start getting better until the rules changes took full effect (2005-2006). That is when Kobe started averaging higher PPG and Nash and Parker began to waltz in the lane dropping floaters all over the place.

[@jaydot4956]

@@ericjordan6059Lebron was averaging 20,5,5 as rookie in 2004, imagine if he was actually in his prime playing under those rules.

[@Ksmoove39]

Guys were more efficient. Guys like mark price could get 20+ off 8-10 shots

[@dreg8679]

Steph is the best shooter of all time!! U can cash app that.

[@Q.B.2.L.B.]

In THIS ERA....them boys in the golden era wouldn't allow him to run free like that...

[@ericjordan6059]

​@@Q.B.2.L.B.... Exactly! Adam Silver himself stated that Curry probably wouldn't be able to perform with getting hands put on him all game long.

[@theformatpodcast1847]

It was $76B. #theformatpodcast

[@Mandownsports]

@@theformatpodcast1847 thanks!

[@DavidL-fz9hx]

Its like putting lipstick on a pig..the way they hype up lebron..he's not great at anything..his skill set is shooting 3s and driving for a layup..thats his bag.