BabyMetal First Take, Take 2 "The One": a discussion, not a reaction, by AJ Hartley. BM #36

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[@Icipher353]

One of virtues of having a job that doesn't require the entirety of my attention is I've been able to spend a considerable amount of thought on the whole question of Yui, Momoko, and the trio, and I find myself wondering if Koba is even smarter than we give him credit for (or maybe he is supremely lucky? OTFGK). Apologies for the wall of text ahead. Koba knew that the fanbase was extremely attached to Yui, and must have known that her departure was going to be traumatic, and he resisted what must have been a powerful urge to appoint a replacement swiftly after Yui's departure, even though it created a slew of problems that it took quite some time to navigate (to find the Avengers as a solution). In hindsight, looking back now that we have a third member again, and it being clear how much better the group is for having three full members, perhaps it was an error to hold off for so long, but given how smoothly the introduction of Momometal had gone, it may ultimately have been for the best. Over time, as Riho and Kano moved on to other projects and Momoko became the sole Avenger, she became an accepted and assumed part of Babymetal performances. Once that happened, people inevitably started to pose the question, "If Momoko is always the Avenger, why don't they just give her a mic and make her a member?" By introducing the idea of another person being in Yui's old position gradually, it broke down a lot of the resistance that would otherwise have been there to anyone being in "Yui's spot". Obviously, the Yui diehards that continued to hold out for her return would never be satisfied with anything else other than Yui would remain resistant, but you can't please everyone all the time. Whether he intended it or not (I tend to think not), it now appears that in creating the Avengers as a solution to the third dancer problem, Koba was in effect introducing potential new members to the fans gradually in a way that made the idea of someone other than Yui being in the third position acceptable. My own view is that they intended to use the Avengers as a placeholder until either Yui chose to return (which must have been an outside chance at best), or until they reached the ten year goal they had set themselves, at which point they could reassess and decide if they were going to continue Babymetal thereafter, which would determine if there would be a need for a third going forward. Once the decision to continue Babymetal was made, I imagine that offering the position to Momoko must have been pretty obvious. She had served with the group for several years, knew all the songs and choreography, is obviously liked by Su and Moa, and was pretty well accepted by the fanbase. When it became apparent what was happening at Babymetal Returns at Makuhari Messe in January (which was an amazing moment to be part of), I didn't hear anyone present express any real doubts or objections about Momoko assuming the role of the third member. The only griping I saw was online among people who weren't present and didn't see how they presented what was happening. Among those I spoke to, the overwhelming consensus was "Momoko has earned the position", and I think that is key to why Momoko has slotted so seamlessly into the group and just feels like she belongs there. Momoko became known to the fans and showed that she was committed putting on the best performance she could in what must have been a kind of thankless role at times, doing the hard yards on numerous tours and shows, and she earned the fans acceptance and respect. If she had not put in those several years of 'apprenticeship', I don't think she would have been anywhere near as readily accepted as she was. Having had the benefit of being both at Babymetal Returns in January, and at Black Night/Clear Night in April, I've had the good fortune to have seen the whole narrative play out in a way that most people haven't, and I think if more people had seen the lore and the way it was presented, they would appreciate the way Momometal's introduction has been handled even more. The whole message of The Other One and the journey to the Metalverse is about Babymetal evolving and changing; it's about closing the door on the Metal Resistance era, and opening the door to the new Metalverse (?) era, which brings with it changes both in personnel and in musical style. During the performance of Karate on both nights of Fox Day, a black and white video montage played showing the many performances of Karate over the years, and it paid particular attention to Yui's contribution and very much had the feel of a 'farewell and thank you' video. This theme of acknowledging and paying respect to the past was obviously also reflected in the appearance of Chibi Babymetal during the same song as Babymetal's past selves. In the lore video that followed later in the show on Black Night, they placed great weight on the idea of endings and beginning and the idea of rebirth out of death. On one level, I think Koba was trying to get us to think that maybe Su and Moa were retiring and that Chibi Babymetal were taking over, but given we'd all read the interviews by that point I don't think many people were buying it, though I did find myself wondering just a little. The lore talked about Babymetal traveling beyond the Metal Galaxy and leaving the past behind to find a new universe to explore (or words to that effect) and said that a new Babymetal was being sent by the Fox God to take up the fight, which led to the introduction of the new line up. The intent of all this was very clearly to firmly but respectfully close the door on the first ten years of Babymetal, including Yui's time in the band, and shift the focus towards what is ahead and on the new line up. The message was very much: Su, Moa and Momo are Babymetal from here on. As has always been Babymetal's ethos, the focus is on the future, not on the past. On Clear Night, the show opened with Metal Kingdom, and began with the three thrones we have all seen rising out of the stage with Su, Moa, and Momo sitting on them looking like queens, and I'm sure I was not the only one who had a chill run through them at that sight. I recall distinctly in that moment that the thought that popped into my head was "Finally. Babymetal is whole again." and for the rest of the evening, it really became clear that Momo was healing the wound that had been in Babymetal ever since Yui's departure. Babymetal needed to be three to be complete, and anything less was lacking. We'd all kind of tried to ignore it for years, but I think many of us felt deep down that something was out of balance with just Su and Moa, and Momo being there fully brought things back into balance. The rest of the show was a celebration of the new, reinvigorated, Babymetal, and everyone was filled with hope and excitement for what lies ahead, and I think that is a testament to the success of what they have done in renewing the group that there is now so much positive buzz about them again.

[@sando-san-metal1864]

Fully agree....🤘

[@keithsowerby8179]

I just came out of the Leeds Arena; Babymetal were frustratingly kept to a less than 50 minutes show with only Monochrome and Metalizm from the new album; Momometal was introduced during Megitsume

[@AndrewHartley]

That's interesting. Sorry it was a little disappointing, though in truth I'm surprised they did as much as 50 minutes as a support act. I was always a bit baffled by that pairing. BM seem to me bigger than Sabaton, though maybe that's just me. I hope it was fun, nonetheless.

[@rickwagner-]

The BABYMETAL team have been doing a great job introducing Momoko as an official member. She'll do great. Looking forward to her first translated interview with a Japanese magazine like Hedoban.

[@AndrewHartley]

me too

[@Capable-Paramedic]

Whenever it comes, funnytoss and I would be ready to work on!

[@TreadheadA1]

@@Capable-Paramedic We appreciate all the hard work that entails too!

[@伊藤浩-b6v]

兄弟。 待ってたぜ😋👍🇯🇵 いつもありがとう🙏 🧀🍅🍚🍑🍼🤘🏼😋👍🇯🇵

[@AndrewHartley]

それはありがとうございます。本当に感謝しています。今まで兄弟と呼ばれたことすらなかったと思います :)

[@MacTaipan]

I agree with you for the most part. I guess I‘m one of the fans who would prefer „old“ over „new“ BABYMETAL, if I had to choose, but since there was huge gap behind BABYMETAL in my personal ranking of bands I like, they are still miles ahead of the next one. I think it can‘t be denied that they are moving away from the kawaii image, it‘s obvious and they have even said so themselves. And since that makes up 50% of the genre Kawaii Metal they had created, it is a radical departure. So it‘s understandable that some fans are driven away. But it‘s also obvious that they had to do something if they wanted to continue their career. The most important thing for me is that they are still fusing genres. What I don‘t understand at all is people that are now bashing Momoko and deciding NOW that they are not a fan anymore because of her. It has been five years since Yui‘s departure. The official declaration of Momoko being the new third member, while having an interesting and surprisingly big emotional effect on me and many other fans, has basically no meaning for practical purposes. The only thing that changes is that she has a mic, everything else is as it has been for years. To take this as a cue to feel offended and turn one‘s back on them is just ridiculous. Those people probably feel like they are expressing their love for Yui, but what they are actually expressing is just a childish, stubborn and harmful state of mind. I guess that‘s the negative side of having an invested and passionate following. Some fail to draw a line somewhere. I like what you said about this second TFT performance being a message to old fans, I hadn‘t looked at it that way.

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks, yes. I'm on a similar page. Time to move on.

[@AlizeeDefan]

u said: _I agree with you for the most part. I guess I‘m one of the fans who would prefer „old“ over „new“ BABYMETAL_ That is kind of living in the past. Not productive or healthy imagine if The Beatles did that? a band needs growth

[@MacTaipan]

@@AlizeeDefan That may be true, but I can't help my taste. If there's a noticeable change in musical direction, it's almost unavoidable that people like one more than the other. Maybe others have a broader taste than I have, but liking two different things equally well is pretty unlikely to happen, in my opinion. Also, I think my next sentence relativizes (is that word used in English?) the one you quoted. It's more like comparing an S tier and S+ tier band.

[@paulobalictar4842]

Momoko is not 'The Other One' anymore. Very happy with her joining officially.

[@AndrewHartley]

me too

[@ronlawrence4706]

Wouldn't worry about the small number of detractors, the fact that they sold out the Japan shows and are currently selling out all over the US, shows that they are stronger than ever and the I consider TOO a masterpiece. I think time will prove that to be accurate.

[@AndrewHartley]

Agreed. Thanks!

[@chrisharris1522]

I agree about TOO but I think people make too much of a thing about Babymetal and albums, they really aren't that kind of group, to me it is just 10 more songs to add to their pool of songs to include in their shows to stop them from becoming stale. It took fans a while to warm to Metal Galaxy also now many include songs from that album among their all time favorites.

[@AlizeeDefan]

Andrew u hit it on the head with "similar to *The Beatles & Pink Floyd, ....like going from " I wanna hold your hand to Helter Skelter*

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks!

[@Marty-Metal]

I think SU and MOA tell us exactly how they feel in the lyrics of "Believing" and if we ain't down with that then oh well, the serious fans love their growth and maturity, me included. btw excellent content Andrew-Metal

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks, mate! Appreciate it.

[@Codametal]

I got emotional when we can actually see Momoko sing, and for most of us, the last time we heard her sing was on Girls Planet 999, and before that was her Sakura Gakuin graduation with Aiko Yamaide and Megumi Okada. This video was a wonderful 'introduction' to Momometal singing to those who didn't previously know who she was. Great analysis. And you are right about what people are saying about the new album. But that just means those are also the people who don't understand or know that this is a concept album, which is in itself already going to deviate to what they normally do. Kobametal didn't even acknowledge this as BM's 4th album. I can't wait for their 'official' 4th album, and guarantee it's going to be different because they now have Momoko singing with Moa. It's going to be great. It's been 6 or 7 years since we heard 3 voices in a BM song. I welcome it as a new era.

[@AndrewHartley]

Yes, I agree, and that's a good point about the concept album sound not necessarily reflecting where they will go next. And yes, Momoko has absolutely earned the spot. It was time.

[@IsoIsak]

They haven't lost the Kawaii, I find it odd that people say that. Their cuteness is no longer based in being children, but that is not the only way to have that quality. I hate the implication that they somehow can't do their old songs or can't play in cute things, the idea that that would be unseemly or humiliating or something. I act cute all the time, and I'm certainly not trying to pass my 44 year old self of as a child. Cute knows no age (or gender). So to me, all the people who mourn that they've changed are mourning is the fact that time has passed, nothing else. Which, to be fair, is understandable. But also not really something you get to be pissed at anyone about.

[@AndrewHartley]

I don't disagree, and I think a more expansive notion of what kawaii is/means is both right and interesting, though I think it plays differently outside Japan. Thanks for the comment.

[@schneider1112]

I think they chose this song and waited for Momometal to become an official member to signal that they are back to "The One" and the main story of BABYMETAL, after the side story with "The Other One". They have recently talked about how a new part of the main story is beginning after 10 years of Metal Resistance. I also interpret it as a signal to the fan base (The One) that we are not forgotten and that BABYMETAL is back in full force, as a trio, after their "hiatus". Su even gave us the Fox Sign! I think "The One" was the perfect choice.

[@AndrewHartley]

Agreed. Yes.

[@AlizeeDefan]

If they did not add a 3rd member soon, BM would have died a slow death 😥

[@BMObscure]

When someone says that the music of BABYMETAL has lost something, Japan Times called it "their edge", that doesn't necessarily mean that person wants them to act like teenagers, somehow magic Yui back into the picture or stop evolving. There are other, very legitimate, complaints you can level towards the new music, like how it centers Suzuka so heavily and features very little vocal interplay between her and Moa(and now Momoko), how it lacks heft and riffs, how repetitive and predictable many of the songs are, et cetera. The idea that being disappointed with HOW their music has changed is a rejection of change itself is just not fair to anyone. There are lots of ways BABYMETAL could have changed, they could have become dark and brooding, mega heavy, weird and proggy, sweetly idol flavored. But on The Other One they instead just became more ordinary. All edges sanded down, less hard-hitting, less poppy, less "quirky", less fun, less surprising, less experimental. Overall i get a sense of cowardice from BABYMETAL on this album, like they are worried about being offputting or disagreeable but also don't want to pick a lane and limit themselves. And that is the same feeling i get from their second appearance on The First Take, there are just so many more interesting choices they could have made. If they wanted to send a "postcard to existing fans" as you called it there are countless other ways they could easily have done that in places fans will see it without wasting an opportunity like this. Hopefully with Momoko in the group and them starting touring again they will regain their confidence and can move forward and evolve again but now with that brazen audacity they used to posess.

[@AndrewHartley]

Yeah, I don't see it that way, but that's a fair point. I don't think it's experimental in the same way, but I still don't think they sound like anyone else. I'm also not sure how this album will compare to what will/may come next since several of these e songs are actually quite old. As for the Times piece, it does specifically level its critique at their movement away from what they were: "“The Other One” pivots too far away, with its core duo believing maturity means leaving their childish, quirky sides behind." Anyway. Onward.

[@fabioc.9404]

In hindsight, now that the tour in Europe and the UK has ended, we can easily say that maturity absolutely did not mean leaving one's childish and bizarre sides behind, because at every concert they showed the public interactions between the three girls who, grimaces and skits that even at 15 years old I wouldn't have allowed myself to do in public. Momoko's arrival gave a shock that allowed SU and Moa to return to being themselves, joyfully crazy but tremendously professional. For anyone who may have doubts about Momoko's abilities, I remind everyone that there is a video online of when, as a senior in Sakura Gakuin, she harshly scolds the other girls (whose dance rehearsals she was plausibly leading), guilty of not having try your hardest, telling them that if they didn't feel like practicing, they could just as well go home! The frustration of not seeing the same ferocious passion as her in other girls brought her to tears! Behind the smile of rare beauty, there is a talent cultivated with tears and sweat, no one has given her anything (even though she is the daughter of ...), but with facts she has proven to be the right person for Babymetal. Sorry for the digression, but when it comes to Momoko I catch fire!!! Merry Christmas and happy new year everyone!

[@road-runner]

Really interesting discussion, as always. Thanks, professor. 100% agreed. I was late at discovering BABYMETAL (2019) so, I have always known them as a duo (until now) with the avenger of the moment for live performances and so. When I learned bout Legend S and the whole 2018 situation I thought that it was so cool they waited for Yui to recover and come back if she could. But later, all happened so fast. The Avengers era actually lasted less than 9 months before the wold stopped in 2020. Then, the Budokan, the hiatus, etc. Once they came back, being still a duo felt almost surrealist. So, their decision is the right decision for the time and the situation. After five years, they needed to move on. Again, I'm very happy for Momoko and for BABYMETAL because having her mic'd up and singing, they feel "complete" again. Even visually. Just look at the new pics of the three of them! And yes, choosing "THE ONE" to present Momoko in public (I believe this was recorded previous to the concerts at PIA Arena) is a message to the current fans. And with that said, we will always remember Yui Mizuno and we just need to thank her for all she gave to us.

[@AndrewHartley]

Well put. Thank you!

[@digbydark9313]

There's no reason for any fan to be angry that Yui is gone or that Momoko took her place because Yui left on her own. She wasn't kicked from the group. If Yui fans are angry, there's no reason to direct it towards the current group. It should be directed at fate, destiny, or luck. Take your pick. Regarding the change in BabyMetal music, they said it themselves. We just can’t go back to the way we were. Leave everything in God’s hands. The seasons change. You are not the same. The seasons change. We are not the same. Don’t go back.

[@AndrewHartley]

agreed

[@Varksterable]

That is so true. I love Yui and cutness so much. Oh, I ache all over for it. But this is also true. Just leave it be, and find a teddy to cuddle instead. (Totally recommended.)

[@kevinhiggins7838]

I don’t get it, actually. Yui left a long time ago… either she doesn’t want to come back or is incapable of it (or both). I like bands changing styles… we’re all Yui fans… it’s just that some cant get over it.

[@Icipher353]

Some folks are weirdly fixated on the whole Yui issue. If these people actually cared about Yui, they would respect her decision and reasons to leave and to let her live her life in peace. Instead of thinking about what was right for Yui, they're actually being selfish because THEY want Yui back. Deep down, what they're really upset about is that Babymetal has changed, and they didn't want them to. But all bands change over time, and as a band that began as children, they had even less choice than most about changing. I really like Believing precisely because it is addressing this point about Babymetal changing and doing so quite directly to those fans to have complained.

[@AlizeeDefan]

Agreed! If u are a true BABYMETAL fan, u must accept the inevitable growing pains, they will encounter, good, bad or indifferent. Finally Amuse added the correct person,, to officially fill this void or BM may have faded away into the sunset. Anyone, that boos or just does not accept this, are living in the past. Momoko will shine as bright someday, as she is full of love, talent and spirit. Please support this gifted young woman 💞

[@joseerickcortes2189]

Even if she returned, Yui fans are longing for the 18 years old girl, not the almost 24 years old woman that she is now (wherever she is) and there is no way to turn time back, sorry for them, do not blame the group, do not blame the management, carry on.

[@rantingrodent416]

I agree completely that this was meant as a message to existing fans. It just seems really strange to me to use The FIrst Take to send such a message rather than just releasing a video on their own channel. I'm curious about the thought process that went into that. I am extremely pleased to see the return of double harmonies. Many old Babymetal songs sound a bit flat at key moments with only Moa singing backing vocals, and there are several newer songs I expect will be elevated by having a fuller sound in some moments. Momometal's voice seems to fit Moametal's extremely well. I'm curious to see what comes next since they've collectively made a big point of saying that TOO is not indicative of their direction for the next chapter. I don't think we'll hear anything new for a couple of years at least, though? I am wondering if they'll eventually release new studio versions of some older songs that still see regular rotation. Maybe for the 20 year anniversary

[@AndrewHartley]

Good points. Thanks!

[@jakemuller8626]

Bummer to hear about your t-shirt issues with Warner Bross, that's just so ridiculous. Love to see MomoMetal getting more spotlight and of course we need to look forward if we're willing to keep supporting this amazing group. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this Andrew.🦊🤘🧡

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks, Jake. Always appreciate your input.

[@WavePotter]

This is a really interesting talk.. I think you helped me realize why I just recently really fell in love with the band. I was a huge fan of the music, but not so much the kawaii elements. Now with the more mature elements, it’s really resonating with me. Love your comparison to legendary successful bands innovating and changing over time. And I never thought of the mortality aspect of resisting change. Thank you for sharing your wisdom on this!

[@AndrewHartley]

My pleasure!

[@paulbroady4141]

The lockdown was a blessing and a curse for Babymetal. Yes they gained many new fans through KZbin , via their own channel and the reaction channels. So the new fans got 10 years of Babymetal in a space of a year. So although they were on hiatus , they were still being seen throughout this time on a regular basis. The problem bring, aftertheyd seen all these reactions and the playlist diminished, there was nothing new for the new fan. Plus all the new fans considered them as young children still. So although they were a duo aged in their early 20s , many still saw them as young teens in a trio. I personally love the new album and the more , obviously, mature sound, and I find it a bit disturbing that some can't accept that Yui has gone, momoko has come in and they've grown up. As you said it's almost fetishising them to want them to remain young teenage girls. And let's not forget , Yui has been gone for several years now, so I don't see momo as a replacement now. She just filled in a vacant position that was held by Yui 6 years ago. There are hours of Babymetal and SG stuff on YT for those who want the old Babymetal cutsie stuff , so enjoy reminiscing, I will occasionally, but I will still enjoy the grown up Babymetal as the continue to rewrite the future of metal and entertain us with their live stage performances. Thanks professor, sorry for the long rant, but it's off my chest now. 😂😂 🦊🦊🔥🦊🦊

[@AndrewHartley]

No apologies necessary. I totally agree. BM have been such a source of joy for so many that I hate to see the fan base get so divisive, or want to hold on to a version of the band that feels to me restrictive, limiting. Cheers!

[@chrisharris1522]

I completely agree with what you said Paul, I am a post covid fan, but I dug deep into the foxhole and feel as though I have watched them grow up, and I want to see them as they are now, young adults in their prime and I also want to see Yui as she is now and what she chose to be, which is clearly not a member of Babymetal. If she decides she wants to do something in the public light again I fully support her, but if she has decided she just wants to live a quiet life doing something else and we never hear of her again I support that equally. The happiness of the girls is what matters, what we want is secondary, they have already given us more than we could reasonably ask of them.

[@paulbroady4141]

Welcome to the one Chris. Like you , id be happy if Yui decided to come back in entertainment in some form. Just hope her fans / stalkers (😂), realised she's a grown up as well.

[@react-o-mat]

Great video as always! I agree with all your points about Babymetals evolve and their new album is one of my favourites of all time. As unexpected/different/new their latest music may sound, it absolutely feels like a typical Babymetal album to me, exactely because of that. 🤘🦊🤘

[@AndrewHartley]

Thank you! I appreciate the comment.

[@jaglemans6778]

I think we sometimes forget many BABYMETAL fans started following the band in the post Yui era. I discovered them in 2019 so it was the Avenger era I connected with. Particularly the Su, Moa, Momoko trio. I respect what they did in the Yui era, it's helped to shape what the band is today. But equally, I want to see them progress and try new things. I honestly haven't seen or spoken to any reasonable BM fan who isn't delighted with the addition of Momoko. She deserves the place and I'm sure Su & Moa where integral in ensuring she gets what she deserves. It must have been very stressful & uncomfortable to field so many questions about Yui and if they where replacing her. Now they can enjoy themselves fully on stage and in their media appearances. Momoko herself is a great character and will add hugely to the BM dynamic. I understand why you felt the need to get this off your chest, many of us have felt the same frustrations. But at this point I think it's safe to say the only people banging the Yui drum, (while people disrespectful to her, and nasty to everyone else), really have issues of their own. Now's the time to look forward to a new BABYMETAL era and new music.

[@AndrewHartley]

No disagreement from me at all. I kind of wish some of the fan pages on social media would rein in some of the more belligerent pro-Yui hold outs. They bring down a fandom that is generally uplifting. And when they say "I'm a BM fan but..." it invariably means they aren't actually a fan of the band as they are now. They are fans of a moment in the past. That's fine, but the past is still the past.

[@Busterle]

@@AndrewHartley your last words, "They are fans of a moment in past" . You are so right, this is whats coming in my mind everytime i hear cry or complain about Bm now. If you dont like it, just let it go. Thats how life works. It´s not easy sometimes, but it it what it is. I personally love the "New" BM and so i hope they would make musik a long time, but even if its not the case, i have a good time as long as it last

[@Slytherkins]

Well, I'm personally tickled pink that MomoMetal is official and that she's allowed to sing. The dog ears suit her.

[@SayuriAsahina]

Thank you for this comment - all of it.

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks for your thoughts. Nicely put. As for writing a novel inspired by Babymetal... stay tuned ;)

[@Wombatmetal]

I'm old, and I've been listening to music along time. One thing I've learned with bands is any of them for any length of time, is lineups change. Bands go through eras. Life moves on. Deal. you were spot on Growth is pain, growth is also fodder for art. Which I say as a writer and amateur musician I do expect a new album sooner. Because they added Momoko, and change should inspire art. I always saw The One as a love letter to the fans, and glad to see it here, though you could see them holding back smiles at points. It really shows Su's precision as a singer, which can get lost in the wall of sound. She onsets and completes each not individually, she doesn't do what almost every singer do, which is blend the syllables and notes. No, each note is individual, except when she blends them for effect. Mesmerizing. And I don't blame WB for taking down your T-Shirt. Bilbo wrote that bit about Aragorn, not a wizard :P just kidding

[@AndrewHartley]

Ha!

[@edgarandres6810]

I haven't comment on your videos for a long time. But I have to do it on this one. PROFFESOR you are a PROFFESOR in the full extent of the word. Your comments are always what "the one" needs to hear to understand Babymetal. Koba should hire you as "The Official Interpreter of the Fox God" for mortals. My respects to you PROFFESOR.

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks, man!

[@ndox9009]

Babymetal first time introduce " THE ONE Unfinished ver. " is at NHK 2016 and since " The Yui's Absent era " the song feels somewhat a little empty but now THE ONE Unfinished ver. feels full again. with that being said me think the 3rd and new album will have different vibe since MomoMetal will fill the void (without the present second backing vocal ) on those two albums.

[@AndrewHartley]

Yep. Good point.

[@flugelhornoldman1362]

Again I appreciate your analysis from Japan 有難うございます 💛。My first impression was "too short and too much vocal effects on Moa / Momoko voices", so I was likewise a little bit disappointed by this performance. But later I noticed that this performance was the mandatory sequel of this song. As you know, we heard the first unfinished version of this song in "The One - Stairway To Living Legend" that made their adieu to Metal Resistance, in other words BM's past. The first version included backing vocal by Moa only. The current version includes two voices by Moametal and Momometal. That is the explicit announcement of the new BM towards their fanbase, The One. So we should be the new The One. I discovered BM in July 2019 so I did not have real-time experience with original three girls. What I encountered for the first time was grownup BABYMETAL who were struggling in search of what was right to do for them and for their fans. By looking at this sequel and listening two harmonized voices including new 3rd girl several times, my impression has changed. BABYMETAL have finally got the complete form after some painful transition.

[@AndrewHartley]

Makes sense to me. Thanks, as ever!

[@Grenader3000]

I have really enjoyed the growth of the music. Babymetal has become my top band of all time. Su's voice is just amazing.

[@hedobannord1184]

Very interesting video! I had the same initial reaction when I discovered that "The One" will be their 2nd TFT appearance - I was disappointed that they didn't chose something more upbeat or at leasr a song that we don't already have an "unfinished" version of. But it totally makes sense that they sang "The One", just as you said. I also agree with you on the other points regarding their artistic development. As much as I love their first 2 albums (which are still my BM favorites) I absolutely can see that they should not be "locked" in the Kawaii style forever. And after accepting that I can embrace the new album for what it is: a great piece of music which still sounds a lot like BM (what other band dares to put Mirror, Mirror and Metalizm on the same album?!). But I also hope that some more fun/sillier elements will return on the next album because you can be mature and still have fun 🙂. The thing with your T-Shirt is nuts - it's sad/stupid/outrageous a company can copyright such a text.

[@AndrewHartley]

Totally with you. Thanks!

[@fabioc.9404]

What you said at minute 9:15 is true just as it is true that the sun rises and sets! Before discovering Babymetal, I did nothing but listen to music from the 80s and early 90s, the years of my youth, until I graduated, because it brought me back to the joy of those carefree years! It was enough for me to listen and see the video of three little girls in tutus playing hide and seek with a red and a blue Oni to make me appreciate today again! I met Babymetal at the beginning of the year (like in a dream, I don't remember the exact moment and if Momoko was already an official member), so I've only seen dated videos of Yui, so my affection for her is "in retrospect", I can't have nostalgia for what I haven't experienced, but only respect for what he has given to the world of music. Having said that, today's Babaymetal are the same joyful little girls seen in past videos: their bodies have grown, their faces have evolved, their costumes have changed, but in this year's concerts you can see that the joy of living and having fun is the same. Kitsune up and see you!

[@AndrewHartley]

Yes. The joy lives on, in some ways even more palpably now that it seems to come more naturally from their own actions, not simply through someone else's direction, and now that their stage personae are a little less rigid. Cheers!

[@amartins8213]

I always believed that the most probably future of the band was only Su and Kami band as a metal band. But I accepted that was a vision of a western metal head and not what they really wanted to be and probably what they main base of eastern fans would like. We can't be that jealous...

[@AndrewHartley]

Good point.

[@chrisharris1522]

Su and the Kamis would work for sure but I think Su would find that difficult, there would be a lot more pressure on her to be the sole focus of the group and I don't think she has the ego for that, if you think of those who have had success in that kind of arrangement, they all have had huge egos / personalities and often have tragically struggled with the pressure of it

[@Grington300]

Good discussion, thank you - and I think I agree with pretty much everything you were saying. I will admit at first I was very slightly disappointed they did 'The One' for this second First take song, but I think you are right in why they did that ... some slightly twisted side of me was half hoping they might do 'BABYMETAL Death' ... it would have served just as well as an intro for Momometal.😇😁 Some people seem to have never accepted that Yui left in 2018. Only during the 2018 tour when they adapted the choreo with the two Muscle Metal girls were they effectively covering her absence. The Dark Night Carnival with the Chosen 7 happened after she left ... that was clearly planned all along and would have happened just the same with Yui plus 4 dancers had she not left and been able to perform. As it happened Saya filled the third place in the triangle with Su and Moa while the other 4 dancers made up the rest of the Chosen 7 just as she completed the triangle formation for the choreo afterwards for the dates in Asia and Australia. The Avengers were not covering for Yui or taking her place, they were completing the triangle formation for the choreo that Su and Moa, being just two of them, could not do alone. I always thought that was a good solution for where BABYMETAL were in the years from 2019 to now. The fact that Momoko has been supporting them as a dancer for so long, it just makes even more sense now they are evolving and have decided to become a trio again, that she should be the person to join them. I don't get the argument that "the kawaii has left". A lot of the "kawaii", as I saw it, was in the choreo and the fact you could see they were just enjoying being on stage and both those things are still a big part of what they do and who they are. The fact they are no longer 11 - 15 years old just means that particular element of kawaii has changed, but it would just be weird (and maybe cater to the creepier elements of the fandom) if they did not dress or act their age ... they are adults, young ladies in their mid 20s now. I agree they are evolving and that does involve some degree of change. Whether that change suits any individual's tastes is very subjective. I used to listen to a lot of Genesis in my youth ... and then Peter Gabriel and, even more importantly, Steve Hackett left, they changed their sound and what they did. They were still good live, but I didn't like most of the music on the albums after then, so I stopped buying them and I moved on. Personally I really like all the songs on 'The Other One' (a couple had to grow on me, same as a couple of songs on Metal Galaxy had to), but from where I'm sitting as an album all the songs work and hang together really well, so I'm still as enthusiastic as ever and I can't wait to see what they do on their tours this year - and then what they choose to do next.🤘🦊🤘

[@AndrewHartley]

Yes, Genesis changed radically after Gabriel (not--in my opinion--for the better). I always thought it a conscious choice to be more mainstream, but I was never a hardcore fan. And that's a good point about the Avengers. I agree about maintaining the tripartite formation.

[@cuttysark8017]

I think Yui took some kawaii with her when she left, but BM were bound to lose the youthful kawaii energy as they got older. The sisterly and supportive relationship that Amuse had done so much to emphasize in SG and BM between Yui and Moa was also lost and I think that hit many fans hard. Maybe the biggest impact of Yui leaving and Mikio's sad death was a psychological one on BM and the staff. The excitement and exuberance of the initial years were punctured by some real world loss and tragedy.

[@paulos9900]

Great discussion Andrew. Personally I really like the new album. Some of the songs from the 1st album are probably always going to be their most iconic but I think the overall quality of the new album is very high. I've only been a fan of BABYMETAL for about 18 months so this is the first time I am getting to enjoy the excitement and anticipation of it all as new information and content is released along with everyone else.

[@AndrewHartley]

It's a fun feeling to hear new material as it comes out, right?

[@paulos9900]

@@AndrewHartley Indeed. It's also just fun to read everyone's crazy theories about what Koba has planned for the band. Virtual hologram band, Babymetal continuing with an entirely new set of girls etc.

[@lencooke944]

Hi Professor, great discussion and I agree with most of your points. I must live under a rock because I have seen very little shade cast on Babymetal for the official addition of Momo. The vast majority of people I have seen or spoken with wholeheartedly approve of Momo being added. However, I have seen some of the negativity you mention toward the new album, and I agree with your observations on those. I also agree with your thoughts on the reason why Babymetal chose The One as the second The First Take video. I am probably in the camp of not particularly liking The One in the original version and feel that this was a very 'safe' song for Babymetal to perform here. I do understand the reasons for choosing to do this, but I felt it was just a bit bland. Technically very good, just a little predictable. As for the new album and Babymetal's future direction; I really like the new album as it gives us a new, more mature version of what I already enjoy about them. I still feel that this is going to be a very big year for Babymetal and I look forward with excitement to see where they head next.

[@AndrewHartley]

Totally agree, Len. The One has always seemed to me a song that works best as a community anthem during a show rather than a song to listen to, and while I get why they chose it for this, I would have preferred something like Legend (sax solo on First Take? Yes, please) :)

[@olias056]

Thank you for the insight and feelings. I agree with that. It is nice that they are doing things that show more maturity. As you said, they can't go playing 14 year olds forever and I look forward to what they do next. I agree that doing The One, with MomoMetal did say, "she's part of BabyMetal", welcome and let's move on.

[@AndrewHartley]

Indeed. Thanks!

[@brandonmagee7262]

As for the performance, it was fan service. And, more importantly... it transitioned the band out of "The Other One" and back into "The One." As such, even if I preferred a different song... I understand this choice. More on point, however, is that this was the unfinished version. The original unfinished version. The version that they played to end the NHK special in 2016 when all the possibilities were open for Babymetal. And, I think that is symbolic... because all the possibilities are now open again for Babymetal. Can't wait to see them for my first time in September. It's going to be great.

[@AndrewHartley]

Me too! Looking forward to it a lot. I hope we get full sets.

[@TreadheadA1]

Great video full of wisdom! The folks who need it won't heed it though. I understand their feelings, it hurt all of us when we found out she was retiring but, it has been almost six years since she left. It is time to let go. Yui and Momoko deserve better. You new book sounds interesting so I'll be looking forward to hearing more. Also, I recently bought a shirt from your store ( Bokura Wa!). The process was super smooth and it arrived quickly! Love the shirt! See you next time!

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks, mate! I'm glad the shirt reached you ok. I had one order which took longer than it should, but for the most part they seem to have shipped pretty quickly. Thanks for the support!

[@monkut]

Thanks for saying what needed to be said.

[@bleedsmetal]

Amen & Thank You 🦊

[@JMxx6204]

Just come across this one again nine months on. What you had to say is, as always, interesting & thought provoking. Looking back now it was odd the grief some fans gave them over the album & Momoko. The second part has by & large been put to bed; she is accepted & loved because of her charming stage presence and hard work during the world tour. Yui “fans” will continue to moan about her absence but that’s a tiny minority now. As for the album. It has become one of my favourites just behind Metal Galaxy and that’s from a starting point of not really knowing what to make of it. As for the “kawaii” stuff well,it is definitely still there but in a more appropriate way for their age. “Metali” proved that without question. They aren’t children now and that should be respected & I think it is. BABYMETAL remain a unique & exciting band. They are joyous and we need all the joy we can get right now.

[@AndrewHartley]

Agreed. Thanks!

[@ericchild8845]

It was beautifully done. This has got to be one of my new favorite BM performances. This is way more difficult to do than I think most folks realize. If you listen to this and don’t feel anything then you’re probably dead.

[@ericchild8845]

And, just to let everyone know, I think this was exactly what Professor Hartley described as a mechanism to officially plug Momo-metal into the past while at the same time displaying what will be moving forward. I love the early BM music just as much as many, but am also excited to see where this journey will lead us in the future. I have to humbly admit that I too am feeling much like the Professor in that I am already wanting more new music from BM, but that is just me being selfish and needy ☺️. Always like your posts, Professor, so thank you for continuing to make the time and effort to create them for sharing with us all. I am trying to work my way onto the stage crew for the Aftershock Festival here in Sacramento, but also plan on seeing at least one if not two other tour stops. Perhaps Atlanta is a good choice? 🤔🤓

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks, Eric. I appreciate that. And if you make it to Atlanta, make sure to say hi. I'll let you know if the DragonCon panel happens.

[@Psyggie]

I enjoy your thoughts as always Professor! And not surprisingly, I agree with all of this. Even as a very new fan I feel and understand everything that's going on. Yes we all miss Yui, she's not coming back, it doesn't take anything away from her legacy and accomplishments with the band, and Momoko feels like an amazing fit. I also agree that I love the new sounds, and that the Japan article is full of crap. The dichotomy of sound between the extreme heavy and extreme kawaii ..that gap between the two .. has lessened, but I think folks don't realize it's still there. It's just more mature. It's STILL experimental and genre bending and genre mixing (Time Wave, Metalizm perfect examples). Anyway, sorry, I know I'm preaching to the choir 😁 Oh! I broke the bank, and my wife and I are going to the Houston and Dallas shows back to back! Vip first access one night, and a balcony seat the other night. I figured, first opportunity to see one of my new favorite bands? Go all out!❤🦊🤘

[@chrisharris1522]

I am going to see them in Melbourne for the first time, 5 star city a 5 star hotel and a 5 star show! I am 52 and I feel as excited as a teenager

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks for this. I really hope we get full shows. The tickets weren't cheap... ;)

[@Psyggie]

@@AndrewHartley true that 🤣

[@jeremyboynowski3784]

So here's my thought on the subject. Yui left of her own accord for health reasons. She gave a goodbye letter to her fans, she apologized for leaving and she wished us all the best. I kind of think of the Yui thing as the death of a wife. Your wife would not want you to stay alone and single for the rest of your life. She'd like for you to continue on with your life and be happy. She'd want you to find another partner. That is how I feel Yui feels about Babymetal. She wouldn't want Babymetal to forever be just the 2 ladies struggling finding a way to fill Yui's shoes. As for the fans. I was one of those fans that personally liked Yui the most. When she left I was very sad, and worried about Yui. I always held out hope she would return, but deep down I knew she wouldn't. We need to let Babymetal continue on with Yui. Other bands have replacements too. Big bands like TOOL for instance have had many changes. It's a normal life-cycle of bands. We, as fans, just need to get over it and allow it to happen. In terms of the new album, again, here are my thoughts. Babymetal was always an experiment from day one. Koba heard Su sing and was like DAMN that girl has POWER! He took her under his wing and decided to create an experiment where he mixes her JPop power, with the Kawaii aspect of Moa and Yui, with metal and allow that to blossom. So from the very beginning Babymetal has been an evolving experiment. For us fans to expect Babymetal to always sound the same is a bit of an oxymoron seeing as no song sounds the same already! So how are they supposed to sound the same??!! As you mentioned Andrew, the girls are not longer girls, but are now ladies. These young ladies have grown, and so too will their sound, as you mentioned. We need to allow them to spread their wings and see where their music takes us. We have been VERY blessed with Babymetal always releasing amazing songs over and over again. Most Babymetal fans agree that there are very few, if any, Babymetal songs that aren't that great. There are maybe 2 Babymetal songs that I would just classify as ok. I probably wouldn't skip them if they started playing in my mix, but I wouldn't go out of my way to listen to them either. That being said, Babymetal are bound to make songs eventually that fans won't appreciate as much as other songs. If we're going to drop Babymetal just because they didn't release a perfect album, then are we really a very loyal fanbase? We need to put our trust in these ladies and see where they take us as they find their way in this new age. We also need to remember that this is only a concept album. So lets just relax and enjoy the journey. And if you don't like this album that is perfectly fine. You're entitled to your opinion, but there isn't any need for toxic comments. You can constructively criticize what you don't like about the album, and maybe even partake in a debate with others about it, but we need to a) Leave Momometal alone. She worked very hard to earn the position she has now. b) Leave Yui alone. She said she hopes to one day return to the world has Yui Mizuno. Lets let her get there when she's ready and greet her with open arms when she does c) allow Babymetal the freedom to continue to do what they are doing. Singing their own path and seeing where it leads them. This world is already super polarized and divided with everything that is happening. Lets try and heal and be The One as the girls have tried for over 10 YEARS to teach us and not bicker and fight. Lets try and do the girls proud for once and instead stick together and keep the peace and help each other out instead of fighting and throwing each other under the bus at every possibility that presents itself.

[@chrisharris1522]

I agree with everything you said except Moa was always my favorite, but only by a hair. All three are fantastic and all three Avengers also

[@AndrewHartley]

Totally agree. Thanks for this measured response.

[@jeremyboynowski3784]

@@chrisharris1522 I can totally appreciate that. Yui was my favorite by a hair as well. To be honest, I kind of look at all 3 ... all 4 now as my baby sisters. I'm always going to be very protective of them lol I know Yui left, but as Su and Moa said, she'll always be part of the Babymetal family.

[@chrisharris1522]

@@jeremyboynowski3784 yeah I think some of the Yui hardcore fans forget the rest of us also love her we are Babymetal fans we love and support everyone that has ever been part of the organisation, I paid and watched that stream they did just to help out the crew who were struggling during the pandemic. We are The One

[@jeremyboynowski3784]

@@chrisharris1522 I did as well. I just wish they would have allowed us to download it so we could watch it when we wanted to again 😢

[@drockbada]

Very elegantly stated. Many points in this video resonated with me. I have been thoroughly enjoying their evolution over the years. I enjoy old tracks for certain things and now enjoy the new stuff for different reasons. I have been waiting patiently since seeing them in Atlanta years ago. I will be attending the show again here in Atlanta as well. If our paths do not cross that night, I hope you have a spectacular experience :)

[@AndrewHartley]

Yes! Look for me at the Atlanta show! :)

[@bleedsmetal]

Brilliant discussion. Thank you

[@klauskluge7256]

Fully agree, except for one point. I think they are still kawaii. Kawaii isn't just cute and young. Even AJ is kawaii, if I may say so. 🙂

[@AndrewHartley]

This may be one of my favorite comments ever :)

[@mikepowers9486]

Sorry another comment, but this also shows BABYMETAL should come out with a song that has all 3 ladies sing more lines. There are parts in ROR that all 3 sang together and it sounds like heaven. Also songs like Meta Taro where all the girls has some lines and more lines together as well. We need more of that and not just ooh ooh ooohs and quick lines from Moa. I'll take those too of course but I think when they all sing together at times it is truly amazing. So as First Take songs.... they don't have much to choose from really that include Moa and now for that matter Momoko. I thought we might get the Legend. I could see Shine sounding beautiful. BUT what would Moa and Momoko do besides some backing harmonies and standing stiff. Maybe try Megitsune? Might be fun to try that one in this format. Interesting at least.

[@AndrewHartley]

Yeah, I'd like to see Moa and Momoko make more of a vocal contribution going forward. I kind of hoped they'd rethink the term "scream" in the band definitions...

[@danielacton1974]

I'm new and late to the vid but I completely agree with everything you said in this vid , I've gone through so many changes of music and baby metal is the foundation of my music taste and I have grown with them, I would follow them all as independent artists, we are not a cult but i would spend anything to see them live again, and i approve of any of the avengers going full time all of them were perfect for each performance, and cant wait h to see them in London.

[@AndrewHartley]

Excellent. Enjoy the show!

[@mikepowers9486]

They could have done their choreography in this one, since its just arm/hand movements. Would be better than standing stiff. Sounded beautiful as expected but as on Atarashii Gakko's first First Take: OtonaBuru, they still danced and goofed around. Just would like some more movement from our girls. Looked beautiful in their new costumes and again sounded beautiful but I wish they would do something a little different. 🤘🦊🤘

[@AndrewHartley]

Yep. That's fair. Of course, it's a stately song, so goofing around for this wouldn't work, but maybe we'll get that with another song one day. I also like the costumes, though the First Take studio lights are pretty unforgiving. I think they'll look better under stage lights: color and pockets of shadow.

[@mikepowers9486]

@@AndrewHartley Well, I didn't mean for BABYMETAL to goof around in this one, I just mean they should be able to move more than a half inch. The ONE's choreo would have been appropriate for this. I doubt they would do something like CMIYC :) I was just pointing out how much more freedom Atarashii Gakko had to at least move. I guess it is just extra weird on the eyes when we are used to BABYMETAL constantly moving and dancing and then here we have then stiff as a board.

[@AndrewHartley]

@@mikepowers9486 Ah. Got it!

[@Anu_metal]

BTW OH! You 've already decorated the Miniture Samurai Armour ( YOROI KABUTO 鎧兜 ) for May 5th . 🗾🗻🎏😊

[@AndrewHartley]

Good point. I need to get my carp flying :)

[@greedymetal6743]

I think they responded perfectly to the fans who are unwilling to accept change with the song Believing. I love the new album, it's my favorite tbh. However, I also have some little complaints. I don't get why they decided to perform this particular song on the First Take, I think it's a miss opportunity. They just released a new album and they chose to perform another version of "The One". I don't really care about this performance, it's pretty boring. I think "Time Wave" would be perfect, or "Believing", or even "Maya". It doesn't have to be necessarily a piano version. I still hope for one more appearance on that channel soon. It's not a big deal though, I was just hoping for anything else. I also don't also understand why they announced Momoko as a new member that late? Why she isn't on the album? Why she wasn't on the first take with "Monochrome"? They are confusing new fans again and I think it's a little unfair for the new member. And there are also NFT's which are currently associated with the scam. It's the last thing we need. I guess we, who enjoy their music, have to keep supporting them. I can't wait to see them live in Berlin

[@BadEnd98]

Completely agree with you on this, they should've picked up a better song for this TFT which more potential bringing a lot more new fans

[@AndrewHartley]

No disagreement from me at all. And NFTs are the instruments of the devil :) But yeah, though I get WHY they used this song, I would have preferred to hear a new song (imagine a First Take LEGEND complete with sax!) :)

[@greedymetal6743]

@AndrewHartley Yeah, I get what you said in the video, but still they could do that on the live performance and upload it on their own channel. It would be more impactful. While they could use TFT to gain some new fans, like I became a new fan of Atarashi Gakko after their appearance on the channel

[@chrisharris1522]

If the NFTs had been something they charged for I would agree but they are just a free collectable they gave us at their expense, it is completely optional and you gain nothing by possessing one, other than a fun collectable, if it were a scam then there would be some payoff for them. If anything the whole The One fan club could be looked upon as a scam in totality, but I prefer to see it as an opportunity for fans who wish to support them financially to do so, which is how I see it. I get far more value from Babymetal content than I ever did from any pay tv service so am happy to pay for it, I like this modern way of contributing to artists on a voluntary basis compared to the horribly exploitive system of the past few decades.

[@AndrewHartley]

@@chrisharris1522 Hadn't realized t4eh NFTs were free. I thought you had to pay for them. Point taken :)

[@davidgreen449]

Don’t forget that The Chiblies( I think that’s what they’re called) who supposedly are BM from an alternate universe seem to be earmarked to be performing the earlier Kawaii material. I found your insight to be very interesting 👍

[@AndrewHartley]

That's true. I'm curious to see how much they will be used and whether they will always be kept to supporting the "real" BM or whether they may be given new material of their own. I think that would be a mistake, personally, but I guess we'll see. Cheers.

[@shawnlopez2317]

Well said Sir. Every long lasting band or preformer has one true element in common, change. Maturing and evolving has always been the only way to maintain relevance and respect. Yeah they will lose old fans but they will also gain new ones, and knowing Babymetal they may regain old fans again for Babymetal has never stop being surprising.🎉 Though I do wonder if they will do this for anther 10 years, Lord knows if they wanted to stop they've earned it, but while listening to Su's voice in it's full maturity now with these One Takes and with the complexity of the new songs, I almost feel that the TRUE BABYMETAL has just began.🤘🦊🤘❤️🔥❤️🔥🤯

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks! Yes, and while I was cautious about hankering after another new album, I am conscious that they can't go on for ever, so I want more soon :)

[@shawnlopez2317]

@@AndrewHartley indeed.

[@daguitarman808]

Sugoi 🤘😎🤙

[@stevechevy3382]

Nice reaction. Your mic was very low on this video. For me Babymetal has always had a part of them being about change. They changed metal and the view many had over what people around the world thought about Japanese metal. Change is inevitable. I am a big fan of bands like Van Halen. And they went through much of the same thing Babymetal is going through now. Fans split over the singers. But in the long run early VH was cool and innovative. With Hagar they had their biggest hits. And added another skillful guitarist. As Sammy could sing and play guitar. Different but still great at the same time. Babymetal is the same to me. fans splitting over old and new. In the long run thanks to video we all have what we want. The old Babymetal will always be there when you need them. and the new Babymetal will move into the future. Only the Fox god Knows where they go from there.

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks for the comment. Sorry about the sound level. When I rush things to try and respond in a timely fashion, things get missed, esp. when I by pass my (overworked) editor :)

[@gjunky1513]

The writer for the japan times has always had disdain for Babymetal. Even when he had something positive to say about them, it like he was doing it through gritted teeth. He's like the pundits that are upset that the green M&M isn't sexy anymore. Up till now, I truly believe that most people missed the point of what was supposed to be The Kawaii. It's not the fact that the 3, 2, now 3 are cute girls singing metal. It's the dance. The dance is The Kawaii. No other metal unit around incorporates dance to interpret the music. With our current Babymetal, all 3 women are attractive but like you said, it isn't enough for some creepos. One thing I would like to see people do, to correct the haters of Momoko, is that Momoko was promoted to fill a vacant spot that Yui left, not that she replaced Yui. It's been 5 years, Momoko didn't replace anyone. I believe the positivity of a promotion can out weigh the negativity of a replacement.

[@AndrewHartley]

That's a great point about the dance. It does seem to me that the kawaii was primarily a visual element and was only occasionally audible (esp. to non Japanese speakers) on a few songs, even on the first album. Totally agree about Momoko. Thanks!

[@archstanton1628]

You're right, if they still acted like young teens they would get the gimmick label forever. The new album is excellent, hard but with a playful edge still. Momo has earned her place too, she made sure she was always available unlike the other two avengers. Plus she's actually on film from when she was about 13 saying she wanted to join BABYMETAL 😁

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks!

[@cuttysark8017]

With the move on from the kawaii aspects of BM I now wonder if Su would be better served by eventually going solo? TOO and Momoko have given BM some much needed new energy, but without Moa and Momoko taking more of a vocal role, and with the Kami's totally depersonalized, BM has become more and more the "Su show". She has a phenomenal voice and stage presence and as a solo artist I think she could appeal to a wider audience and compete with the Adeles and Beyonces. I also think Moa has more talent than she's usually allowed to display with BM. I'd love to be in Amuse/BM/Koba planning meetings...

[@AndrewHartley]

Interesting. Yes, to me Su is the one unalterable element for me, but I know people feel very attached to the others too.

[@cuttysark8017]

@@AndrewHartley Oh I'm not saying that there isn't a deep emotional connection with BM, I've experienced that myself and I understand the desire for BM to continue for a long time...and I think their future is now far more certain with the trio in place and Amuse supporting new music and touring. I'm just wondering if the BM envelope has become constraining for the talent inside. That crystalized for me watching a fan cam video of them performing RoR, yet again, but this time in Leeds as a supporting act.

[@Sunflowerseedsforivan]

The difference in loudness between you talking and the song is too much, deafening even when Su hits.

[@artunblock9433]

I got scared actually 😅

[@johnschultz7765]

My wife from the other room: "What's going on out there?!" 😅 True story.

[@AndrewHartley]

Yeah, sorry about that :)

[@zetto-metal6051]

I agree with you that the 2nd FIRST TAKE was not to gain new fans. But... here is what I see from this THE ONE take. If you compare SU's performance with the "Monochrome" on the FIRST TAKE, you may noticed that her eyes are not looking at the same direction. With "Monochrome", she is looking upward in the air. I think it as she is thinking of Mikio who passed away unexpectedly because "Monochrome"is the song for him I believe. On the other hand, SU's eyes are looking straight with THE ONE. As if she is singing while seeing someone nearby. Same for MOA and MOMO. Please re-watch the both FIRST TAKE videos with this in mind.

[@Yamamotokenjirou]

貴方から見たら私は“部外者”だろう。BABYMETALの約10年間支え続けているファンではないからね。但し、日本の音楽全体を見守っている立場ではありますよ。1番分かりやすく言えば先日無くなった坂本龍一は護憲派で親中派で私の思想とは違いますがそれでも坂本龍一の曲は好きですよ。 幸いな事に英語を正しく理解してないから博士がどの立場なのかは知らないが私はBABYMETALについて貴方と共にこれから感想を載せたいし、他のグループわパフォーマーやバンドや歌手についても感想を述べたいと思う。

[@AndrewHartley]

正直なところ、私は坂本龍一の政治について何も知らない。Babymetalやその他の音楽についての感想は、いつでもここに書き込んでください。

[@Yamamotokenjirou]

@@AndrewHartley BABYMETALの強みを私の立ち位置から見ると、恐らく今はまだアニメとタイアップしてませんし、日本のテレビメディアに取り上げる回数が極めて少ない事ですねあまり日本の影響力を頼っていないという意味ではワンオクロックとアタラシイガッコウと同じ立ち位置かもしれません。注意すべきは国内ツアーと国外ツアーのバランスですかね。

[@AndrewHartley]

@@Yamamotokenjirou それは面白い発想ですね。シェアしてくれてありがとう。

[@Dead-Eye]

Interesting thoughts, Andrew. I'm afraid I was underwhelmed by this latest appearance, which is dramatically different to my own emotional reaction to the 'Monochrome' take. It was only the pleasure and satisfaction of seeing Momoko being included in the singing role she has earned that really gave it any impact at all for me. TBH, I would have been equally satisfied if Riho or Kano had got the place, as I think all three young women have served very well. As you say, though, Momoko has worked particularly hard. I'm not a fan of the new album. I like many of the songs and I like the live performances of those songs that I've seen and heard on video, but the album's production sounds messy to me. Too much wall-of-sound and not enough definition to instruments. As has always been the case, many of us consider the live versions of the songs to be superior and definitive. I'm already looking forward to the next album, despite some excellent songs on this one, and I'm hoping the next time will not be quite so overwhelmingly dark (as 'The Other One' rather seems to me).

[@AndrewHartley]

Thanks. Though I get why they want with The One I agree that this was a soft choice of song, and that something of the new album would have been more interesting. I do really like the new album, though I'll think about that wall of sound thing. Thanks.

[@chrisharris1522]

@@AndrewHartley even one of the older songs reworked would have been better too, imagine a version of Megitsune with traditional Japanese instruments as the backing with softer vocals and Su showing off what she can really do with that amazing instrument of hers. I think that would have wowed me and been something I would keep going back to.

[@chrisharris1522]

I was disappointed, I felt they let an opportunity slip. If this was the song they chose to do then I felt they should have done something creative with it, maybe a jazz version? Really anything other than this. I watched it maybe three or four times but only to add to their view count. They did a good clean performance but if I were to rate it against all their other performances of this song I would put it right at the bottom with the Stairway to living legend version, but at least that version had a point and that was to deliver a specific message. I am sorry if this opinion upsets anyone, but I think they are better than this. If this performance was to introduce Momometal to the fans then they should have done something to wow us, to expressly show us what a great addition she is to the group, but it fell short.

[@AndrewHartley]

I don't disagree. I understand why they chose this song, and it did have some impact for me, but I would have preferred something off the new album. Maybe next time.

[@cuttysark8017]

My enthusiasm for BM definitely dipped after Yui left, when we sadly lost Mikio and with the release of Metal Galaxy which I thought had some real clunkers. So I'm glad that TOO has some songs that are quite challenging and reward repeated listening, but I wish BM would stop going down the world music road...METALIZM is another one I skip. BM must change to keep going, the kawaii left with Yui, but kawaii isn't everything. I wish that BM had replaced her earlier as I think the duo plus Avengers format stifled their development and Momoko is a worthy addition. I'd be lying if I said I was excited by Momoko joining, but it was necessary. Now BM can move forward and let's see what they do. I think you might be right in your analysis of why BM chose "The One" for their second "First Take" song, but if that's true I think it's a bit of a waste of the platform. The fans know Momoko is part of BM and are glad she's there, an emotional concert rendition or separate MV release of "The One" would have been a great thing to do to welcome Momoko. "The First Take" has a wide audience and something more dynamic than a short version of "The One" would have been more appropriate. It's a bit of a missed opportunity IMO.

[@AndrewHartley]

I don't disagree with any of this, except that I actually like Metalizm quite a bit :) I'm thinking about it, prior to making a discussion video about it, which means I'm open to over-reading, but it works for me. I'll take it over oMajinai any day ;)

[@mikepowers9486]

I personally love METALIZM and so far I have seen mostly positive reactions to that song.

[@cuttysark8017]

​@@AndrewHartley I'd rather a sharp stick in the eye than Oh Majinai, it's the Micheal Flatley vibe that I can't take

[@AndrewHartley]

@@cuttysark8017 Hahahaha. Yep.

[@daigomasculinidade]

Ha, that's funny... I've just finished seeing your reaction for The First Take on Atarashii Gakkou no Ridasu and after seeing this performance, something pop out of my mind, comparing both bands. Would like to start by saying that I like definitions and reasons for stuff to exist. That's an important info. I'm from Brazil, "country of football, samba" (bla bla bla...), and the Japanese culture always struck me in some weird way. Here, Samba, Funk, Pagode and the newest "Trap" is the "mainstream" of music, specially when we talk about Anitta and other artists. Anyways, what's my point? This: never liked. Here, music is more a representation of glory and ostentation (luxury), not some profound felling about something (except if you listen to some Sir. Aldir Blanc, but that's for the old folks from the 80's who still have some degree of posture). Most of this is a result of poverty that most of this artists came from and now suceed to break out of. Hate the ideia of the underdog character my country have in every artist. God knows why I love Hip Hop tho. Japan, whatsoever, is the "country of respect, technology, formality, kawai, arigato" (bla bla bla...). There, or I might suggest, Pop is the real thing for younger people. It seems like Japan never got their original thing in music after WW2 (see Ue Wo Muite or any other song from Kyuu Sakamoto). Whenever I see a new band, it hits me the same thing I saw (even the lyrics) on some American pop band influence (or any other band). I believe that's a result of redemption for some cultural things that might had been influenced after the loss to America and his invasions. I don't know, cultural music in Japan it's something hard to get too deep about it. Or maybe I'm just too young and unexperienced about the world. But the point is: It's hard to create something new. Really hard. Because of my country, I've never liked listening to music. Didn't like anything. Nothing. Never felt like we did had something wort to consume. I just liked to watch Anime, because it was joyfull to see this perception of the world that many japanese artists could bring to a screm (or screen), always about getting out of something or somewhere hard and being a hero or so. Anime is so great at this (see Demon Slayer, Dragon Ball, hell even Naruto), I'm not crazy. But music, well... let's give it a try. LiSa, from some animes I watched: wait, she is actually a normal singer? I mean, doesn't she just sings for Anime? (reaction). Whaaaat? Radwimps does have albuns and stuff? What in the hell Japan?! Thought you guys just loved to get some tea cerimony going after some rice. Aight, what's more? There we go: weird (and somehow funny) videos and stuff. Of course. Japan is great at this, spectially for a "otherside of the world" brazilian gaijin. Going through some weird japanese stuff, there we have a youtube recomendation: Nippon Manju (Lady Baby, now BabyBear or something). Hilarius. No, not hilarius, this music and video is the definition of Hilarity. Then BOOM, I understand it. This music is the definition of Hilarity. That's what Japan is all about, not weird funny stuff but by defining what thing is what utilizing some kind of instrument to represent that. We always see that whenever we watch learn from there, they are to strict, trying always to be polite, well postured, kind. Trying to be perfect (whatever that means) to represent the definition of something like: Loyalty. That's how I see it, no matter what weird thing come and go from there. But when I saw Babymetal, I realised that they define something we all miss: Happyness and the most important: Friends. And having three girls just fooling around playing some Metal it is hard to not notice that. Heck, Metal is about fighting your demons trought out pain, loud noises and screams. Mixing that up with the cuteness, we can all understand the point they are trying to get accross. The good and the bad, the peace and chaos. Jezz, that's some japanese weird funny stuff but SMART stuff. We smile when we see Yui's playing around, Suzuka giving all her heart to music and Moa bringing the energy to the people. That's the definition, again, for Childhood or just Child, or maybe being a Baby! Discovering the world. Evetually, that realisation brought me to tears while listening to Gimme Chocolate and Headbanga. It's finally, something ORIGINAL. But... after Yui left the band, it seems they got more and more professional. The responsability of being not just grownups and losing the Happyness, but by losing the Friendship concept is even more. It is easy to see Happyness on being an responsable adult, but it is not easy have Joy while being so all the time just as a Child. It is easy to have Friendship, but it is not easy to lose a long time friend. But hey, don't get me wrong. I know life is not about staying young. We grown, we die and whatever. But the point is: breaking the two concepts I've mentioned of a group in wich had the objective to bring people around by cuteness and playing utilising music thought out it is heartbreaking. Atarashii Gakkou, wich is the exact same thing as Babymetal but with pop, is what Babymetal shoud have been from the start with metal. Just some kids trying to bring the best from the two concepts they took with their characters. Now, Babymetal STILL FANTASTIC with their music but HORRIBLE with their presence. I don't know man. THEY ARE NOW TOO PROFESSIONAL, too robotic, you got me? Again: nothing wrong with it. It's just... fuck up for me (sorry for this). Comparing Atarashii Gakkou with Babymetal and the difference energy they have brought me this idea. This felling. We never know if Suzuka and Moa are actually happy doing their stuff. And without Yui... fuck man... I'm definitely not happy that Momoko got the stand for the third member of the band. For her, of course I'm happy (it's a big responsability). But that's not the problem... We all miss Yui, but this long loss felling isn't for her just only. We actually miss the most original thing about this band: the CONCEPTS. Maybe that's why we loved the ideia of putting three little girls, innocent ones, dancing and fooling around like there's no tomorrow. Maybe Babymetal is now about Adulthood? Otonametal? Teenmetal? Whatever, but it will never be the good old Child, Joyfull "Baby" ever again. ... lol I'm kinda good at writing. *Sorry for the extensive text.

[@daigomasculinidade]

Holy smoke, I made this comment before I watched all of this video and you have mentioned 99% of what I was thinking but with more brain in it. Thanks, hahahahahahah I love this channel.

[@AndrewHartley]

Ha! Thanks, man. I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your comments and the passion behind them. Cheers!

[@jeff110373]

I.M.H.O I have absolutely no problems with bands evolving. Would prefer them heavier. The last album was terrible with maybe a couple of ok tracks and this 1 is more pop than metal. My Problem is mostly with the BULL regarding the band. The ONLY FOR OVERSEAS SHOWS U.S BAND HAha B.S. Kami dropped not long after Mikio passed. Amazed Japans Press not making stink about Japanese Musicians being screwed.

[@jeff110373]

Andrew you had a chance or time to check out Scandal ( Scandal Band. 2008-present. THE ACTUAL FIRST FEMALE BAND ASKED TO PREFORM AT BUDOKAN 2012, Great Concert I've the DVD. And BUDOKAN invites YOU, you don't book or ask them. As i think i said before to you in another comment. Without Scandal (of course also other girl groups) who were able to get a loyal fanbase overseas and have toured Europe, 🇬🇧 The UK, AMERICA and Obviously the rest of Asia opening the doors and people to Japanes Female Rock Groups. Obviously those banda had to put the WORK IN With great music, musicians and touring. Which was again then made easier after Scandal by BABYMETAL who Blew-Up ALL LIMITATIONS AND EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT A FEMALE JAPANESE GROUP COULD DO IN THE WEST (Especially after the original SHOCK THEN GRADUAL ACCEPTANCE BEFORE LEADING TO EUPHORIA with shouts of WE WANT MORE, FROM A SONISPHERE AUDIENCE KNOWN FOR MOCKING AT BEST BOTTLES AT WORSE for groups not worthy of their ears 😂. So just a thought for a deep dive - the family tree of female J-Metal upto today with BM. NEMOPHILA. BAND-MAID AND LOVEBITES. WOULD BE INTERESTING I.M.O

[@AndrewHartley]

Good idea, though I'm not sure I have the depths of knowledge to do that justice. I may see Scandal (and Passcode) live this summer in Japan, if I can get teh ticketing nightmare sorted. Cheers!

[@jeff110373]

@@AndrewHartley ok know you teach but this really doesn't have to be in-depth know every fact kind of thing a Starters Guide for where we are now and have come from with a say this century start. All good was just an idea. And afraid unless im behind turn tablea and not talking even to boozed up holiday makers on Canary Islands (Couple Decades+ Ago and Different Life) i would be shit at it. So JEALOUS of Japan trip was always a dream to go there and F****d that up. Not allowed. Lol not allowed most places come to think about it. But that 1 pissed me off Have a good time. By the way. You display/cabinet behind you in todays video was that a short sword standing up at the hinged door on left side? Couldnt get good look lmao isnt a Su Mic/Dagger from Megitsune. You can buy them

[@AndrewHartley]

@@jeff110373 Ah! Sorry to hear that, mate. Cheers!

[@jeff110373]

@@AndrewHartley lol no need to say that. Everything i did to myself. My choices. And somethings lead to you not able to go places. Tho Paul McCartney was allowed back but 1. Loaded. 2. Famous and Suppose the real reason. He was a f***ing BEATLE.

[@Killem911]

Very good discussion and agree with most, if not all of your points. The evolution of Babymetal reminds me of Linkin Park, when they released “A Thousand Suns” which had some new music elements in it and drove some fans away, saying that this isn’t LP anymore. At first I was kinda disappointed with them picking “The One” for the f1rst take but I understand that it probably is a message and thank you to the fans saying “Thanks for being our fans and welcome Momometal”. It just doesn’t has the same emotional impact that Monochrome had tbh. Great performance either way. Btw I love the new album and think it is probably their best work to date. For sure it is the most mature album they released 😂 🤘🔥🦊

[@AndrewHartley]

Yeah, I don't disagree that another choice would have been more exciting. I get why they chose The One, but I still would have liked to hear something new.

[@Killem911]

@@AndrewHartley Exactly =)