Back To The Future III: Giant Plot Hole!

[@cannibalchainsaw]

I'm no professional mechanic, but I do work on cars quite a bit. Doc couldn't leave gas in the Delorean in the mine. Gas gets old and turns into varnish. It would've completely stopped up the fuel injection system, which would've had to be rebuilt, and there were no equivalent parts in 1955 That being said, I've never worked on a Delorean, but if they're like every other car, the fuel pickup picks up from the bottom of the tank and pumps it out the top. So when the fuel line got cut by the arrow, if Marty cut the car off, the pump stops pumping, that arrow was up higher than the fuel tank, all the gas wouldn't have ran out of the tank. 55 Doc said he filled it up. Knowing what I know about cars, it wouldn't have been out of gas to begin with.

[@twistyclips7033]

Thanks, that's a great point

[@sonicfreak04]

thank you for filling in this plot hole! I was just thinking about it yesterday

[@chrishelms3298]

Better yet, went back to the mine,drain tank in that delorean because it would varnish if he didnt and repair fuel line on other delorean in the cave. Put gas into that delorean and boom go home.

[@einarschwentke7813]

The arrow he pulled out of the side of the car has nothing to do with the ripped fuel line. The fuel line underneath got ripped by a rock or a thick piece of shrub or something as he was driving fast over rough terrain. Doc definitely would have drained the complete fuel system for storage. I agree with this video. Find out where the fuel line was ripped, then put some shielding and skid plates in that area so it never would have happened.

[@Plushybear09]

Yeah but it wouldn't have been varnish because marty went back only a few months after doc arrived so the fuel may have still been there unless it was already drained

[@Movietuff]

If they used the delorean that Doc put in the cave, Marty in the future could never find it.

[@SuperNuttyPuddyBuddy]

Exactly. It would have caused a paradox. And Marty would have disappeared.

[@Craigcargill80]

If they used the 1885 time machine Marty wouldn't be able to go back in the first place to 1885

[@Unknown-gz4hh]

I've got one. So in BTTF Doc has this whole set up with the clock tower so when the lightning strikes, he could chanel the electricity down the line to the DeLorean. So Marty needs to not only get the car up to 88 mph but hit the line at exactly the right moment to trigger the flux capacitor and send him back to 1985. But in BTTF2 After Marty got the sports almanac back and burned it, Doc just sitting there hovering NOT doing 88 mph is struck by lightning which triggers the flux capacitor sending him back to 1885. So in theory, in BTTF Marty could've just sat there in the DeLorean and have been sent to 1985 without having to reach the previously needed 88 mph. Idk, it's just stupid to me how they did that.

[@orchadetrm]

The answer is that the Delorean hit 88 because of the sudden rotation caused by the lightning. Which is why the flames were shaped like the number 9 backwards

[@ELECTRICKEN]

Interesting, so if Marty sat there in the car in 1955 with the car in neutral would he be sent back to 1985. This is all speculation, they probably just overlooked it.

[@ericdegre3538]

Bob Gale explained that as it was flying the bolt of lightning made the car spin up to 88 mph.

[@grueti21]

even better. The lightning hit the clock tower because it hit the flying delorean first.

[@luck9081]

​@@orchadetrm I rather think Doc hit the gas the moment the first lightning bolt struck (if you rewatch the scene, there are like 4 or 5 lightning strikes, and after the very first one, you can hear the DeLorean's engine roar as if Doc was trying to escape as fast as possible). That's what cause the DeLorean to accelerate up to 88mph all of a sudden, thus meeting the second condition (along with the flux capacitor being ignited) for time-traveling.

[@michaelleonard4350]

The gas line is under the car the arrow didn't hit it he torn the line on a rock when he got to the cave

[@unr8ted77]

He never intended for Marty to use the time machine to come to 1885. He stored it away for Marty to go back to 1985.

[@theFLCLguy]

They could have sent a letter to Marty in the past the same way doc did in part 2. I fucking love bttf but it's full of plot holes.

[@toptekTV]

I think there is even easier way than fixing metal on the fuel line. If they had access to the "original" Delorean, they could just take some gas out of it :)

[@twistyclips7033]

yeah, that too

[@donrixw9955]

Knowing this really ruins the MOVIE

[@joelm33]

Yes. Doc would have had to drain it, so unless he had used up that gas to start a fire or something then they could have done that

[@cannibalchainsaw]

Doc couldn't have left gas in it. Gas goes bad in a matter of months. You've never forgotten to drain the gas out of your lawnmower at the end of the fall and then had trouble getting it to run in the spring? I know I have, and that's a lawnmower over a matters of months, not a fuel injected car over 70 years.

[@BUTT-BUTT]

Doc definitely would have drained all the gasoline from the DeLorean so that 1955 Doc would’ve had to repair the DeLorean itself, but only the time machine part. It would’ve been nearly impossible to repair a DeLorean in 1955, so Doc was “thinking 4th dimensionally” and drained the fuel. That’s why he made such a big stink about Marty loosing the gasoline.

[@ianfeuerhake1859]

It would’ve been risky to mess with the Delorean in the cave. Bigger plot hole was how stubborn Doc was about that $80. Even when he knew paying Mad Dog the $$ he felt he was owed, which could’ve saved his life, he still didn’t.

[@mat0018]

Doc wasn't offering refunds. That's why he offered to reshoe the horse, before finding out it was dead. That's like asking for a refund for a blown out tire, but you destroyed the car because you have anger issues. Doc wasn't responsible for Bufford killing the horse, but he was for the shoe coming loose. The judge would side with Doc.

[@ianfeuerhake1859]

@mat0018 poor argument. He had the foresight of knowing that his stubbornness would get him killed, and it would've been wise to make an exception in case they couldn't get the time machine to work in time. Judge Wapner wasn't even born yet in 1885, so there was no People's Court

[@sousmetv1224]

Also want to comment on Clara. Doc was to meet Clara in a few days and that's when he allegedly falls in love with her before he is shot. However, he and Marty were at the ravine by chance when she was suppose to go over the edge. If history wouldn't have been interrupted, wouldn't Clara have died in the ravine days before she even met doc?

[@ShaolinDave]

No, because he was suppose to meet her when she came into town. So basically this is what happens; 1- original unaltered timeline, Clara falls into the ravine. No Fox or Marty around to save her. 2- Doc-altered timeline, he meets her, preventing her from ever going to the Ravine in the first place. 3- Final timeline, Marty takes Doc to the ravine, so Doc isn’t around to meet Clara and prevent her from going to the ravine. So, Clara is on the way to die in the ravine exactly as she did in the first timeline, but this time both Doc and Marty save her.

[@mxplixic]

You can see her in the background when Doc and Marty are looking at the map and Doc mentions Shonash ravine because she just arrived on the train.

[@joshualee1367]

I know this videos a couple of years old but I wanted to point out a second plot hole. When Marty goes to1885 there are now 2 DeLoreans in 1885. Since 1955 Doc already has to repair and or replace some components of the car. Would it be that had to leave in the instructions to replace the fuel manifold and get gas. In other words the DeLorean Doc and Marty use could have been fixed with the time they had.

[@moviesgalore9947]

Very good observation but the Delorean in the old mine is also screwed up from the lightning bolt strike. The car Marty drove back to 1885 has the more important time circuits still working it just can't get up to 88 mph. But you might be right and I could be wrong.

[@ericdegre3538]

It would've been dangerous to risk disturbing the DeLorean in the mine. If something was to happen to it after Doc burried it, it could've prevent Marty from using it in 1955 and thus create a paradox. Also, had they use mechanical parts from that car to fix the 70 years old one, 1955 Doc might have not been able to fix it with 1950's engine parts.

[@jasonbrattoli2813]

Not to mention when the doc got zapped back to 1885 the Delorian wasn’t traveling 88 miles per hour

[@NukeCaulfield]

It got spun on its axis so fast, it got to 88mph. That's why they show the tire smoke as spirals in the sky. It indicates that the car got spun.

[@VJ4rawr2]

It's not a plot hole genius. If he stuck a "bit of metal" over the fuel line on the original DeLorean, then it would never have been torn on return, which means he wouldn't have had to put the metal over it. AKA paradox.

[@twistyclips7033]

With that logic, anything done in any of the movies would cause that same result. As in going back in time and preventing your parents from meeting thus ceasing to exist to be able to go back in time to prevent your parents from meeting.... genius..

[@VJ4rawr2]

Risk'n Biscuits Your example is wrong. His parents were destined to be together (hence the line “Lorraine I am your density”). The concept of destiny is a key element in the series.

[@twistyclips7033]

@@VJ4rawr2 Another key element in the movies is the fact the changes in the past have physical effects on the future time line and it has been shown several times throughout the trilogy. For example, the family picture in bttf1, the newspaper in bttf2, the tombstone in bttf3, the fax that said "you're fired" at the end of bttf3. They CAN make changes that will manifest change in their reality. Putting a metal plate on the DeLorean is no different and should have a physical change as well.

[@VJ4rawr2]

Risk'n Biscuits The series is seen from Marty’s perspective only. His timeline runs from A to B and external characters memories are shifted according to his actions. His memories are never altered. It’s why 1885 doc didn’t remember that he sent Marty back to save him (in the original 1955). When Marty saw himself get fired he actually was fired. The note changing doesn’t mean he didn’t see it. Again, this only makes sense because Marty’s timeline is running from A to B and his memories are never retroactively changed (unlike everyone bar Jennifer/Clara possibly) If they went and patched the old Delorean it would retroactively screw up Marty’s memory (the only true perspective) as it’s altering an event that Marty already experienced in his past. This comment really doesn’t make sense (it’s difficult to explain) but maybe you get the gist of what I’m saying.

[@twistyclips7033]

@@VJ4rawr2 it is my belief that if Marty and doc had decided to put a shield over the spot where the fuel line was struck on the original DeLorean it would have materialized a change on the DeLorean Marty used to travel back. That being said, I guess we will just need to agree to disagree on that matter. But I think we could both agree that Biff shouldn't have been able to travel back to the same time line in 2015 after he travels back to 1955 and changes the time line by giving himself the sports almanac. Lol

[@Hydroculator]

You're saying that once Doc in 1885 learns that there's a hole in the gas line, that he should go dig up the car in the mine, and change it? There's no way he'd do that. If he makes a mistake, like causing a cave in or damaging the car further, and now he's caused a massive paradox. He would be taking an incredible risk in going anywhere near the car. It's why he doesn't go get a replacement manifold from it when his experiments with bar-made "fuel" burn out the engine. Also, if he did put a shield on the fuel line, then the car would arrive with a shield on it, and doc would have no idea why it's there; he wouldn't realize it's to protect the fuel line from arrows, and he wouldn't know to go modify the car in the cave, causing the car to arrive without the shield on the next go around.

[@simplysteve68]

How in the hell did Doc survive reentry from the 1.21 Gigawatts lightning strike into 1885? The Delorean was at least 30-50ft above the ground in 1955 when the lightning struck, and according to his own handwriting, in the letter Marty received moments afterward (he goes back to '55 Doc, still in Hill Valley square and they go to his house to dry out and read it), that "THE FLYING CIRCUITS WERE DESTROYED, IT WILL NEVER FLY AGAIN." Did Doc just glide the Delorean to a safe landing, then later being able to put it in the (assumed still in use in 1885, without being seen) abandoned Delgado mine, Or did he die in a spectacularly fiery crash once he arrived in 1885? I think in reality the latter would have happened.

[@twistyclips7033]

These are all valid questions

[@lausimeyer6558]

There are two time machines in 1885 (the one in the cave and the one Marty was arriving in). That's the only way for Doc to get away from there and to arrive at the end in 1985 with Clara in a flying Locomotive.

[@joejones9288]

On a DeLorean the fuel line is mostly metal, with about 2 feet of hose on either end connecting it to the fuel tank under the hood and the engine in the back. The fuel tank is protected by a steel plate that sits under it, the fuel line runs between the frame and the body. The only way to rip the fuel line would be to tear through the frame, destroying the car. The spot where it was leaking makes no sense, as the fuel is picked up from the tank bottom and transported up over the tank toward the engine.

[@Johnadams20760]

the arrow didn't breakthe fuel line, the arrow hit the top; of the door. marty driving fast over land with no roads did that

[@Benjatron-jw2rg]

What I’m concerned about is the part when 1955 Doc keeps asking questions about his future until Marty tells him he’s the one always saying it’s not good to know too much about his own destiny. Marty must have forgotten about the letter he wrote Doc to warn him about the Libyans...

[@angelsilva7207]

You know what I thought was fucked up? Marty saved Doc’s life by writing that letter and knowing he was going get shot and killed in 1985. But when Doc mentions Marty’s car accident and ruins his own music career, he doesn’t elaborate or even try to let Marty know about that event and try to prevent it.

[@Movietuff]

@@angelsilva7207 he didn't just want to tell Marty. He wanted him to go to the journey to learn his lessons.

[@troybingham6426]

He didn't want Marty to use the DeLorean to come back to 1885. He wanted him to use it to get back to 1985. In the timeline where Marty and Doc find the DeLorean in the mine in 1955, Marty hadn't gone back to 1885, so there would have been no reason for Doc to shield the fuel line. In the alternate timeline where Marty goes back to save Doc, they don't leave the DeLorean in the mine.

[@hunterstokes205]

This isn’t a plot hole. They couldn’t have used the time machine the mine in 1885 because it had to still be there for Marty to use in 1955 to go back to 1885. He was stuck in 1955 without a time machine and the one in the mine was the only way for him to go anywhere.

[@jayare7750]

I'm sure that if Marty noticed a missing fuel line, he would have replaced it in the future.

[@RoosterMontgomery]

I can't believe we're still talking about this. This is almost worse than the "how many DeLorean's in 1995" argument. 1) The fuel lines on a DeLorean are under the car. 2) Doc is "a student of all sciences" and would know how to store a vehicle for long term use. So BTTF3 is not pointless, it's entertaining.

[@UserAJO1]

There is a simpler solution in the using the preexisting DeLorean in 1885 in that if the car that went back in time was out of gas they could have after patching the line gotten some of the gas from the first car and used it in the second car because after 1955 Doc fixes the car he said he put gas in the tank which means if there was even a little gas left in the first car removing it would not seriously affect the second car because Doc would simply put new gas in it in 1955

[@lujacklj6424]

There is no two Delorean in 1885. When Marty discover the car in the cave in 1955, the car hiden in the cave in 1885 disappear when Marty arrives with the altered Delorean in 1885. Also Doc in 1885 has already sent the letter to Marty in that timeline. He can’t send another letter to Marty to prevent him being attacked by Indians, because that would be another timeline and not the one they are now in 1885.

[@Jesus_JD]

Doc was a blacksmith. He repaired the fuel line. He couldnt make gas. The corn whiskey (ethanol) blew out the distributor ( not sure how that would happen, since it only provides spark to spark plugs). But the car was screwed and cant disturb the original, unless you want to play the Bill & Ted game. A part missed by most is that the engine is in the rear of the car. The fuel line wouldnt be running low enough to be torn and it would be a crack in the fuel tank. The arrow shot the Time Travel hose that glows. So if you're using Plutonium, you would have a potential radiation leak, if there is residual left over in the hose. I applaud the effort.

[@pyrerock]

He didn't destroy the distributer with the ethanol, it blew up the fuel injection manifold.

[@GabeFelton]

Just add an extra letter sent to Marty in 1955 to bring some extra gas and maybe some ice. Also, he sent a second letter to himself to build a second time machine to go back to 1885 to pick him up.

[@grueti21]

even better. 1985 doc must have known he will end up in 1885 because marty gave docs letter to 1955 doc. Apparently the letter which warns him about the lybians works through the normal course of time but not the letter to marty that he is in 1885.

[@spice_krispies]

The bigger plothole in part 3 to me is with Clara. On his 1955 tombstone, it says erected by his dear Clara. How on earth did they meet back then if she wa s supposed to go over the cliff?? Marty wasn't there yet for him and Doc to be at the train point so she could be saved, meaning Doc had no reason to be there in the first place. Impossible for them to meet and fall in love....

[@Kurotarosama]

Without Marty telling him about Clara, he would go pick her up instead, therefore meeting Clara.

[@eobardthawne5246]

Actually Clara was already married to Doc before he was shot dead by Mad Dog. After Doc's murder, Clara was so heartbroken that she committed suicide on the cliff.

[@Johnadams20760]

when doc went back and was intereted in science, he met her at the train station to pick her up so she wasn't onthe horses, when marty came back, he delayed that. so he did't go to the school/trian station to get her so she is now in her original time line. only doc and marty are at the tracks chekcing out his idea for the train which was nearby so he was able to save her

[@dallassegno]

The plot hole is that time always moves forward so you would never see a copy of yourself going forward in time. The show is really dumb. When I was a child I asked, why would he be anywhere else in time? And that was the end of it for me.

[@deesmith1659]

Not necessarily because Doc could have drained the gasoline from the car before he placed it in the mine. So now you have 2 cars in 1885 with no gasoline

[@twistyclips7033]

But even if doc drained the gasoline he would have probably saved the gasoline and not had a good use for it until Marty came. He would have still had enough gasoline to use.

[@FordMan-pe7sm]

Doc definitely could have used the fuel and repaired the Delorean with parts and from the 2nd Delorean that HAD to be there. Remember What he said in the 2nd movie "There are now 2 of you here and 2 of me here" in 1955. Obviously, there are 2 Delorean's there in 1885 just like there were 2 Delorean's there in 1955!

[@hovermaxpro6060]

You’re basically saying that doc not putting a shield on the cave delorion is a plot hole maybe he just didn’t think to or or didn’t because as soon as he did yes it would appear on the punctured delorion but it wouldn’t make the gas reappear

[@giulytheboy]

I'm 2 years late, but yours is the correct answer. In fact only the "Fired" writing disappear at the end, not the entire paper. This is the same with the "Tombstone picture" in the same movie, the "Family picture" in the first one, or all the newspapers in the second one. Those photos are still made, even if they are empty. That is why the gas would never appear back in the tank.

[@kylep120]

He was storing the vehicle in a mine for 70 years. Do you honestly believe he didn't drain all of the fluids from the vehicle before storing it in the mine?

[@ericdegre3538]

The fuel lines goes under a Delorean's frame, so it must have been ruptured by a rock when Marty was fleeing. And the arrow's just a funny "close call" moment. Also, Doc would've toss away any plans of going back to the DeLorean buried in the cave. Disturbing it could lead to a landslide or anything that would've prevent Marty from using it in 1955 and thus paradox. Leaving it be was the safest option. And using the buried DeLorean is not a good option. Too risky to damage it (paradox) and the gas has already been drained for the car to be preserve for 70 years.

[@davidrummel133]

Um the biggest plot hole is that the car Marty uses to get back to 1885 doesn't run on gas at all. Wasn't it converted to Mr. Fusion when Doc went into the future? So it doesn't run off gasoline anymore, just banana peels and Bud Light.

[@zekeedwards7904]

Mr fusion powers the time circuits and flux capacitor, the car has always ran on gasoline, this is stated in bttf 3

[@mikeontheisland]

It doesn't work that way. Which is why Doc doesn't remember dressing Marty in that goofball outfit.

[@JaguarCats]

Here's an even BIGGER plothole. Young Doc now KNEW how he was gonna get shot in the back which meant that the future Doc now knew too! Which would mean that once again he'd know to take precautions. Like always keeping a bullet proof vest handy. Whats more, all of the events of Back to the Future Part 3 shouldn't have happened period due to Young Doc now knowing about that lightning bolt that'd hit the Delorean that sent him back to 1885 in the first place. Which in turn means that Doc would have known to make sure that the return destination on the time circuits should always be set to 1985 at all times! Least after they got back from 2015.

[@Jesus_JD]

You missed the fact that Doc forgot almost everything that Young Doc did. The letter from Marty forwarned him. If Young Doc knew everything going forward, it would cause a MAJOR PARADOX.

[@mat0018]

That's not how this works. 1955 Doc is not the same Doc in 1885. Not anymore. Doc originally died 1985. Marty's letter changed his fate, allowing him to live. Doc has the memories of meeting Marty in 55, but he doesn't have the memories of the second encounter. Marty doesn't have the memories of his family being different. There's two Marty McFly's and two Emmett Brown's.

[@outtheredude]

So '85 Doc Brown had a brain fart. Look past the (alternate) '15 facelift, he's still old enough to have them.

[@mikenash7049]

Rather than risk damaging the DeLorean in the mine by opening the cavern where it was buried and risking bringing the ceiling of the cavern down, Doc could simply have gone to the Western Union office and said "That letter I deposited with you on Tuesday, I just need to add something to it," and then written a PS to say "Take an extra can of gas with you. Trust me." The ripple effect would then have made a can of gas appear inside the DeLorean. Problem solved!

[@Johnadams20760]

he didn't expect marty to come back to get him . he had all the gas he needed in 1955

[@boltshippudden6778]

just curious... why is marty's great grandfather (Shamus McFly) married to Irish Lady (Maggy) who looks just like Marty's mom (Loraine) ? Is that a plot hole?

[@moviesgalore9947]

Marty shouted "Indians!" but he should have shouted "Native Americans!"

[@dallassegno]

Americans call them Indians. They're Indians.

[@kevinjohnson1958]

1885 Doc could have sent a 2nd letter to himself in 1955 to re route the fuel lines inside the car, delaying Marty's departure but still arriving the same time.

[@jamielewis3833]

In Brisco County jr they put a rocket on a rail car and Brisco straps himself to the rocket and uses it to catch up to a train in the first episode. How long would it have taken Doc Brown to build a rocket that could have been to push the DeLorean?

[@KaitouKenshiro]

It's all a good point, except when Doc is sending Marty back to 1885 in that horrible 1955 cowboy outfit he specifically says he's put gas in the Delorean which indicates there was no gas in Delorean when they found it. Sorry I thought the buried Delorean in 1885 was huge plot hole too.

[@confyucius4564]

Someone made this same point in another video, but I don’t think the car is scrap-able since Marty uses it to get to 1855 in 1955 if he scrapped it there would be no car to use to get him to 1855 in 1955 if they can’t repair the fuel line making a rippling paradox that strands Marty in 1955 and disappears from 1885

[@moviesgalore9947]

Correct it's a big plot hole would have been smarter to deal with it in a creative way.

[@nigelpalmer1]

But that precise delorean that Doc was sent to 1885 was the one they digged out in 1955 to send Marty back to 1885 ... ?? or am i missing something here ?

[@Jesus_JD]

Not missing anything. Suggestion was to get gas from the one sealed in the cave, but Doc probably drained the gas before sealing it in there.

[@CarlJohnson831]

Why not use the fuel and fuel line from the original hidden time machine and fix the one marty came in to get doc

[@twistyclips7033]

Because doc had already drained the fuel out of the DeLorean for the long storage it was going to be in. Fuel spoils after a few years

[@ryanskeffers5286]

The time continuum would not allow for what you suggest. The doc did not know when hiding the delorean that fuel line would be compromised and therefore would not fo anything about it. A futile point you make. Time is in the eye of the beholder

[@twistyclips7033]

You're not thinking 4th dimensionally! Yes, doc isn't aware that he would need to protect the fuel line when he initially hides the DeLorean in the mine shaft in 1885, BUT once Marty comes back in a future version of the DeLorean and the spot where the fuel line is hit with an arrow is made aware to Doc, he could have said " I've got it Marty! We will just go to the DeLorean I have stashed and put a shield over the spot that gets hit by the arrow so that when you eventually use it in 1955 to come back to 1885 and the Indians shoot the DeLorean, it will simply bounce off and we will still have fuel to use. Because as we have been shown multiple times before, changes made to the past have physical effects on the future."

[@ryanskeffers5286]

@@twistyclips7033 ...yes I see you are right

[@ShaolinDave]

they _did_ repair the fuel line. The problem was all the fuel leaked out.

[@MDFMKisKMFDM]

The biggest hole in the science behind this type of time travel machine (which especially annoying seeing as how Doc Brown brought up the notion of thinking 4th dimensionally himself) the DeLorean when it travels in time in reality would end up in the vastness of space when you take into account that the earth is constantly moving ie if Marty leaves 1985 in say Summer to a date in 1955 in Winter the planet not only would be on the other side of the orbit with the sun but in a different section of space.....

[@aquariumsmaintainedbyandy8408]

not to mention the gas tank was well below the arrow puncture. gas dont travel up. who puts fuel lines through the top of a car ... the tank would of still had fuel

[@Nick-if6pv]

The 1885 car would have been drained of fluids

[@gobucs3146]

Uh. The fuel line wasn’t the problem, lack of gas was.

[@joemoore2162]

Seriously tho why wasn't there a DeLorean with doc in 1885? In the second movie there were multiple deloreans together at one point.....................

[@sousmetv1224]

Couldn't he have taken the parts from 1955 to repair the time machine from the Marty delorean and put them on the doc delorean which was pre fuel line tear? Wouldn't that have given them a delorean with the time machine parts and gas intact?

[@murphcoenterprises5598]

My thing if 40 yr old doc knew he would get shot, how come 70 yr old doc didnt know.

[@Pyramids19]

Doc could of left a note bring some gas

[@michaelleonard4350]

The real plot hole is how did they get a 70 year old car to run

[@cannibalchainsaw]

It's a Delorean. Everything is stainless steel and aluminum. If old Doc filled the cylinders etc with some type of thin oil, like the lamp oil they used back then, then the only parts that would rot would be the rubber. It's fuel injected, so no rubber fuel lines. So, it would probably need radiator hoses and a few other rubber parts.

[@midnightrun5622]

The other question is how did the Delorean run on leaded gasoline?

[@BMFstudiosNYC]

It's obviously modified, so they fixed it before Marty left

[@Nick-if6pv]

That's not the fuel line, bro. It's under the car.

[@fredtaylor9792]

Wrong. Absolutely wrong. Your whole premise is incorrect. Doc's letter said the TIME CIRCUITS were damaged and needed to be repaired by 1955 doc. It was also pretty obvious that he was more concerned about making sure the car was kept safe so Marty could get home, rather than risk getting caught with it in the old west or dying while trying to fix it himself. Now the train..... Once Marty was safely back in he future, Doc felt free to experiment with another time machine, especially now that he had an intelligent and supportive woman by his side who had a love of exploration and the future (Jules Vern). He also had the hoverboard, which gave me some design and parts to work with. According to comics released by Bob Gale, he built a simple time machine which allowed him to travel into the future and gather more parts to build the train you see in the film.

[@anthonyrodgers6613]

Shudnt there be 2 delorens cause if he still have the one he got there wiv in that timeline...?

[@lucialockley7724]

If he moved the delorean in the mine then marty wouldn't have had the delorean to travel from 1955 to 1885

[@twistyclips7033]

Correct, but I'm not suggesting that. What I am saying is that if they went to the DeLorean Doc stashed in the mine and placed a shield over the spot that gets hit then sealed it back up, Marty would be able to use it in 1955 to travel back to 1885 and when it gets hit in that spot it would be protected and they would not lose fuel.

[@lucialockley7724]

@@twistyclips7033 oh okay yeah that makes sense

[@twistyclips7033]

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[@michaelme1548]

I pretend 2 and 3 don’t exist.

[@qtipman6485]

Its not a plot hole. Its a fuel line hole. And since it would have taken doc far to long to make a water tight seal to0 prevent more gas from leaking

[@robertdurant7934]

I just think it’s funny that a scientist that can build time machines and anything else with moving parts couldn’t come up with some gasoline.

[@Thetoon25]

For God sake he could not do that! Its a Paradox. Doc buried the delorean. Doc and Marty then go to the mine in 1955. Marty then went back to 1885. Doc, in 1885 after Marty gets there, could not then risk digging the the delorean up again incase something happened. That would mean if it did happen in 1885, the car would not be there in 1955 for Marty to go back to 1885. Do you know nothing about time travel paradoxes

[@1conor]

There were two de loreans in 1885 they could have just taken the fuel out of one and put it in the other

[@Flichter]

or why didn't he simply create gasoline? they definitely had oil in 1886 lol "it would create a temporal blah blah" - LIKE SAVING THE WOMAN FROM THE RAVINE DIDN'T ALREADY?? he could have created some fuel, then made sure to burn down his lab and bring all of his notes back to the future with him. problem solved, no body is the wiser that gasoline was invented by Doc in 1886 and thus the timeline unfolds as it's supposed to and the screen rant garbage "but he's a PHYSICIST! not a chemist!" oh please, this man was such a genius he went back to 1886 and jumped right into being a blacksmith? that sounds like a guy who's brilliant in almost anything he tries, regardless of the fact his institutional education was geared towards physics. also, i'm pretty sure you have to at take at least a couple of basic chemistry classes to even get to the point in education where you can achieve a physics doctorate lol it seems like they could have avoided this giant plothole quite easily, i mean they must have thought of this when they wrote the film, if not during shooting lol simply have something else damaged on the delorean that wasn't as simple as "we ran outta fuel" FYI, the 1st car was invented in January of 1886 by Karl Benz. which makes the "outta gas" plot hole even more ridiculous lol THE AUTOMOBILE WAS ALREADY CREATED! not to mention petroleum.

[@Cosonov]

How would doc know the gas line would get shredded by an arrow if he left if there 50 years ago. Bad take

[@twistyclips7033]

Whoa bro, idiot? Really? You got to think fourth dimensionally. I'm not talking about doc from 1955 I'm talking about the doc in 1885. Doc has already hidden his time machine DeLorean that he used to get to 1885 initially in the mine. So when Marty finds that delorean in the mine 1955 he used it to go back to 1885. So when he gets to 1885, there are now 2 deloreans in 1885. One of them in the mine shaft, and one that Marty and Doc are trying fix and use to get back to 1985. I'm saying that if Doc was to go to the Delorean in the mine shaft and put a shield wear the Delorean will get hit that Delorean will eventually make it to 1955 for Marty to use to get to 1885 and will have a shield at the exact place needed to prevent the loss of fuel. It's been shown many times in the trilogy that affects on the past have physical effects on items from the future case in point, Marty's hand going invisible in the first movie is a physical change due to something that happened in the past. Also, the fax in back to the future 2 that says "you're fired" is physically erased because he avoids crashing into the Rolls-Royce. So by that logic, putting a shield on a past version of the DeLorean would cause the future version of the DeLorean to have a shield manifest out of thin air, and because the shield was there all along, it would have prevented the loss of fuel and the fuel would still be in the gas tank.

[@spicemelange6796]

Dude. Fucking around with the original delorean would be a bad idea. There's a lot of "what ifs" involved. Example,,,,,,what if Doc and Marty accidentally fucked up something that's irreplaceable on the original delorean, therefore same damages would be done on the delorean Marty came in. Delete your video man.

[@twistyclips7033]

Nope, you're wrong. A simple shield over the area that gets struck by the arrow wouldn't interfere at all with anything else. On top of that, DOC BROWN would be there to put it on so if anyone knew what would happen, it would be him. He could do it in a way that avoided changing anything.

[@cjones3710]

Whats a rickie Bobbie ?

[@Phil1982]

What’s with the totally unnecessary bad language? Couldn’t watch because of it.

[@joelm33]

Me nether. I skipped ahead

[@richdude0059]

He's being rude and ignorant in the comments too. Nothing to see here folks, just pure bullshit.

[@stude1965]

How did Doc have Einstein the dog in the train already if he has just come back? Two trips back? They just wanted to speed things up at the end. You'd think Jennifer or Marty would get hit in the head by that spinning armature on the train.

[@steveinathens]

Tried to watch this video but it was filled with bad language. Totally unnecessary.

[@bunjier4041]

My issue with the story is that how did they need a lightning bolt to get the necessary 1.21 gigawatts in 1955, but in 1885 they simply used the speed from the train to get back to 1985?

[@twistyclips7033]

Great question. You see, in back to the Future part two, the nuclear reactor which Powers the flux capacitor was swapped out for a Mr. Fusion which can sufficiently power the flux capacitor with just any garbage laying around. But in the first movie, The flux capacitor ran on a nuclear reactor and back in 1955, they didn't have any plutonium to power it. So they needed the lightning to give the flux capacitor the necessary 1.21 gigawatts. In part 3 they still had mr. Fusion to power the flux capacitor but the car's engine was shot from them trying to fuel it with grain alcohol. The DeLorean must reach 88 miles per hour to be able to activate the time circuits and the flux capacitor to travel in time.

[@bunjier4041]

Risk'n Biscuits Thanks for the clarification. I forgot about that part. That clears up that plot hole in my mind.

[@kcluu9390]

I'll save you some time. Go to 2:27 = Not a plot hole.

[@twistyclips7033]

Well hardee har har you smug son of a gun. Guess what? You will never get that 2 and a half minutes back. They are mine now. So there..

[@kevinhardy8997]

A major plot hole is that time travel is impossible

[@mochtesh]

Time travel movies never work because it gets real complicated. For example in BTTF 2, the old future Marty should have known about his time travel days with Doc in 1985, and shouldn't he have known (since it was him who did it) that he and Doc along with Jennifer would be coming by the house at that time in 2015? I mean even earlier when Doc tells Marty that he's going to 2015 to see the future beyond his years, and Marty telling him "hey look me up when you're there" wouldnt the future Marty be anticipating Doc's arrival in 2015 with the time machine? Here is a movie mistake in BTTF 3. Doc's love was Clara, which it stated on his tombstone. And Doc later rescues Clara from falling into the revine. But Marty tells Doc that the revine was named after a teacher Clara, who fell into the revine in 1885. This makes no sense. If she was supposed to die in the revine, how was she also alive to be Doc's ladyfriend? That's something the writers/producers overlooked. They should have just left out Marty telling Doc about the revine being named after Clara and it would have worked.

[@twistyclips7033]

I thought about the Clara plot hole as well. But the more I thought about it the more it can still make sense. Marty says that to doc because he is referring to a timeline that was before all of these alterations. Before he ever went back in time at all. But because Doc goes back to 1885, he alters the timeline. At the beginning of BTTF 3, if Marty and Doc had gone to the library and looked at a map and looked at that ravine it would have been called shonash ravine, they just never did that in 1955. If Marty had never came to 1885, Doc would have met Clara just as he was instructed to do by the man from town. And as it has been shown many times before in the trilogy, doc and Marty have all of their memories of previous unaltered and altered timelines.

[@mochtesh]

@@twistyclips7033 yes but since Marty was not part of the time travel to 1885, Doc's presence there, having changed history, that new history would have been embedded in Marty's head, so Marty would never have had the memory or knowledge of the ravine being named after Clara.

[@twistyclips7033]

@@mochtesh yeah but you could argue that the exposure to temporal fluxing would make him immune to the memory loss.

[@mochtesh]

@@twistyclips7033 lol

[@supremeFTW]

2:28mins of pure garbage

[@twistyclips7033]

Why thank you!

[@pizzweak580]

People are too quick to screaming plot hole or something that ends up being solved just by watching the movie, lol.

[@DrifterMW]

you got big mouth

[@leonardmosca6852]

I disagree with that. Brown said the time circuits have been shorted out by the lightning bolt that struck the DeLorean before finished with the timeline that's why he could not have used it and he didn't have the parts to fix it so we needed his 1950s counterpart the complete the repairs because he didn't have the technology in 1850 to do so is white in the opening letter of the movie

[@twistyclips7033]

Yes, but I'm not saying Doc should use the damaged DeLorean he stashed in the mine. I'm saying if he puts a shield over the spot that WILL get hit and cause the gas to leak out on the stashed DeLorean, then the DeLorean Marty uses to get to 1885 will be protected and won't lose any fuel.

[@danelicker317]

Here's another plot hole. If Biff had Doc committed to a psycho ward in the 70's, he never would've invented the time machine nor travelled through time. So old Biff wouldn't have been able to travel back to his teen years and give the sports almanac to his younger self. So he never would've been rich and powerful enough to have Doc committed. It would create and endless time loop.

[@danelicker317]

Here's another plot hole. How would Clara have been able to have her name engraved on Doc's tombstone if she went over the cliff and died before Doc was shot? If Marty hadn't time traveled back to 1885, Doc wouldn't have been by the incompleted bridge where he was able to rescue Clara. She would've died before they met.

[@twistyclips7033]

This is true

[@walrusgumboot]

Wouldn’t Doc have picked her up if Marty didn’t arrive?

[@giulytheboy]

​@@walrusgumbootthis is the correct answer 👍

[@giulytheboy]

​@@twistyclips7033no, it is not.

[@ericdegre3538]

​@@walrusgumboot yes, Doc volontered to pick her up at the train station.