WC3 - [HU] Sok vs Kaho [NE] - Bo3 Showmatch - Don't Force Me Cup 87

[@avarion9538]

I like 3 hero mass archer with Naga, Potm and 3 orbs, because I like high DPS glass cannons. Look at this dying militia! 🙂

[@nightyonetwothree]

"human so good defending dh immolation". Or just +20 hp for peasants?

[@EpicNoob838]

Human is so GOD DAMN op, look at the value graph from the first game, it was always in Soks favor from the very first minute and the gap in value steadily increased until the end even if kaho's first hero was a full level ahead (4-3 vs 3-3 levels before final battle). People say ghoul are op but think about how broken footmen are for a second, makes any other low cost t1 unit look like a joke in comparison, they're so OP forti makes like a whole control group of them vs undead LOL. Also every damn unit in the human army is basically top tier compared to other races, best casters, knights > aboms taurens etc, flying machine can stomp any air commitment, mortars and tanks are best siege units in game. Rifles with pala are probably even better then TC and headhunters too. ALSO militia creeping and pretty much guaranteed unstoppable fast expand on most maps... Now to talk about how cringe human meta play is: Expo > endless annnoying harrass with lvl water taurens and mass footmen and scroll of regen and nowadays its like 3-5 towers in main and expo TROLOLOLOL absolute joke

[@nightyonetwothree]

Ghouls are 340 hp, 0 armor = 340 ehp and 10 dps. Footman are 420 hp, 2 armor = 470 ehp and 9.26 dps. So footmen are 38% tankier, but do 7.4% less damage than ghouls. Militia are 240 hp, 4 armor = 297 ehp and 10.42 dps. So militia are 12.6% less tankier than ghoul, and do 4% more dps thna ghoul. Ghouls being never used for 20 years for a reason. Even nowadays buffed frenzy ghoul (dps grow by +35% to 13,5) have almost same fighting power (ehp*dps) as footman (45.900 vs 43.556) - it's only 5% difference. With next patch (reduce frenzy attack speed from +35% to 30%) will make t3 ghouls equal fighters to t1 footmen. At least t3 ghouls start to move faster (and humans get t3 knights which are champions among t3 mellee units).

[@EpicNoob838]

@@nightyonetwothree Based reply, GJ with the maths/statistics you brought. Hopefully blizzard changes things more drastically.

[@EricM93]

It's very true but peoples' biases always get in the way of reality. I've played this game for 15+ years, and play all 4 races. It's very easy to tell that things are not balanced right now. Hu is an insanely powerful race atm, and NE is basically pigeonholed into DH/dryad/bears no matter what. NE vs UD is equivalently unbalanced and has been for quite a few years now in favor of UD. I think lack of tech tree options (always bear/dryad) and weak heroes had NE playing a very predicable strategy that is simply not as strong as the HU and UD counters to it.

[@IlyaDemidov]

@@nightyonetwothree I like how you brought loads of useless numbers and carefully ignored the fact, that on this channel people did math on ghoul nerf and came to conclusion that that nerf does nothing. Found an UD player. "bbbut your hero survived my coil nova nuke, your hero is imba!"

[@nightyonetwothree]

@@IlyaDemidov if you cant get basic math right, it doesnt turn it into useless numbers. And i dont know how having a video on this channel about ghoul patch desproves what i wrote? I would say it proves ghouls are trash even more, as nerfed frenzy trash is still a trash

[@LAdS897]

How are rifles so tanky with aura… it’s ridiculous cmon man, he used entire army on one rifle and it didnt die

[@IlyaDemidov]

There is no adequate answer on NE side to any of Hum tiers. Rifles are the center of a problem. Imagine an NE unit which on its respawn turns the game around. I remember. It was a dryad with medium armor. But that was many years ago and that was Nerf Elf. Rifleman is completely different story.

[@Mike669100]

looks like warden + panda should be the best combo agaisnt rifle, casters, mortars. dh and kotg are almost usseles in the late game

[@IlyaDemidov]

Does not work. You will get drained by completely balanced (unlike that unbalanced Mana Burn with third of MD drain range) Mana Drain plus Spell brakers absorb loads of damage from Panda and Warden AOE.

[@yanmoney9339]

Sok is greatful

[@eldorondable]

Algorithm fart😊

[@Ta3iapxHs]

Yikes sad to o be a NE. Great to be HU. Maybe all NE players should switch to HU so they can make their point. After 2 AM lvl 3 kills and 2 instant tavern rebuys that cost a fortune it was still anyone's game. And the AM deaths from "the best HU in the world" were totally unnecessary with plenty of time to react and potion of inv plus a TP. Come on.