Backspin: Sheryl Crow Talks 'Tuesday Night Music Club'

[@jtmichaelson]

She claimed that they (Toy Matinee) were a bunch of guys who fell through the cracks. And then was later instrumental herself in helping them again fall through the cracks. I don't think she picked up on the irony.

[@jlim003]

I think that was her kind way of saying they didn't have "it". Not that they were like homeless or sumpin' and needed handouts... Can't expect every successful musician to give charity to every struggling musician they've met along the way.

[@harrisondarby1333]

@@jlim003 Pretty sure Sheryl and Kevin were significantly closer than mere acquaintances like you’re framing it here.

[@jlim003]

@@harrisondarby1333 By the time he "fell through the cracks", they were acquaintances or no longer even acquainted?

[@harrisondarby1333]

@@jlim003 Well they dated and he essentially crafted her first album, so I don’t think we can sit around and pretend their history is minimal.

[@jlim003]

@@harrisondarby1333 I dunno. If u break up with someone, you ditch them for good imo. I'm not gonna stalk u 20 years on and check in to see if you need money. Unless he asked her for help and got snubbed, I dont think she owes him anything.

[@iflixedit]

I'll be putting on Kevin Gilbert's Thud first.

[@dojonane]

Aka real music from a real artist with something genuine to say.

[@rickvenlo1362]

@@dojonane Kudos ⭐️

[@kevinkrohn6916]

KG's estate took down his unauthorized KZbin content, understandably, but here's a solid cover of the KG song I think bears referencing, "Leaving Miss Broadway", which *may* refer to a certain above-referenced person. The lyrics are well worth looking up! kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXXUcnuEqcqFepIsi=TPAde37IFT7wLoOr

[@iflixedit]

@@kevinkrohn6916 I’m sure any similarity is PURE coincidence.

[@KevinOnKeys]

​​@@iflixeditOh yes, I'm sure! 🤭

[@stephanmichaels7215]

"I became friends with the front singer." WTF? His name was Kevin Gilbert. He wrote a lot of the music. And played many of the parts. Not the least of which is his beautiful if not masterful grand piano on 'There Was A Little Boy.' Say his name, Sheryl Crow."

[@gregoryjohnson8946]

No doubt Greg Gilbert would agree with you.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

She does say his name. Did you miss that somehow? Or are you just a lunatic?

[@KevinOnKeys]

If by "friends" you mean dated...

[@KerouacHitchens66]

THIS!!!!

[@rickvenlo1362]

Kevin Gilbert.

[@rickvenlo1362]

Kevin Gilbert. He is who you have to thank. You rewrite history kiddo. Not cool. Kevin Gilbert.

[@harrisondarby1333]

AMEN!

[@blargofallblargs3939]

@@harrisondarby1333 Amen to that!

[@willperdue4429]

Except she was there and you weren’t so ima believe her.

[@blargofallblargs3939]

@will perdue Were you? Cus, you can't exactly confirm she was right either, other than blindly being on her side, huh?

[@blargofallblargs3939]

@@willperdue4429 Basically walked yourself into that one.

[@ACEshredZ]

Kevin Gilbert FTW

[@Joe.M]

Boy! Her story is a lot different from the guys who were involved in TNMC. I've talked to 3 of them.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

And what did they say that contradicts her story here?

[@nikolasvogt7408]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3indYGHj5qDfsk&si=t0mtSbFhoD4194CS ​@@slacktoryrecords4193

[@rickvenlo1362]

So many twistings of the real story here.

[@skillawatts]

Kevin Gilbert. Kevin Gilbert. Kevin Gilbert.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

What about him? What is with this “Kevin Gilbert wrote the entirety of Tuesday Night Music Club” gang? You know there’s zero evidence of that right? You guys are like the “Kurt Cobain wrote all of Live Through This” freaks.

[@MrKemoSpear]

Can not stand this rip off hagg

[@misterm5325]

I think just about every big artist says that line about how back in the early days they got rejected by every record label along with the "big hit" shouldn't have been on the record.

[@kaveman1021]

YOUR first album? Sorry, sweetheart. You were s groupie st best.

[@revolutionday1]

Why in the HELL wouldn't they make one of these for The Globe Sessions?!?!? That album was phenomenal!!

[@rickvenlo1362]

Kevin didn’t look like a Roadie Sherry. Insult to injury

[@dojonane]

She's beneath dignity the way she continuously throws underhanded jabs at that true legend's legacy.

[@rickvenlo1362]

@@dojonane Thank You 🍀⭐️

[@dojonane]

Did you see what she said about him in some European interview just a few months after he died? As I said, beneath dignity. Careerist creature.

[@dojonane]

@@rickvenlo1362 she disgusts me honestly. Completely mediocre talent with full vampiric opportunism and no sense of humility or respect to the ones that lifted her up to the public eye.

[@joshdznyc]

Sheryl, your shelved album is on KZbin for free just so you know

[@jvnktube]

Nobody would have EVER heard of her if it wasn't for Kevin and the guys.. She does not mention it which tells me a lot about her personality..

[@LucienProstano]

Can someone please upload kaviar!

[@LucienProstano]

No shit I could not agree more.

[@CognitiveDissident-d3j]

It's in the deck of my vehicle. 9 times out of 10.

[@mikeimpressionsreviews]

Shaming of the true at least is back up on KZbin

[@rickschmiderer1380]

The sultan of Brunei

[@CognitiveDissident-d3j]

So glad to see so many people who know and love Kevin's music and understand what this "lady" is all about. Sell it to the Kremlin, hon.

[@agentorange3417]

It's so appropriate you appropriated TNMC. I guess well see you next Tuesday.

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

I see the “Sheryl doesn’t know how to write songs” crowd is still alive and well. Who wrote the majority of TNMC, boys? Someone who was there will tell you, and has told you, you’re wrong.

[@KerouacHitchens66]

The irony of her saying SHE felt burned! Sickening...

[@kevinscott5558]

Her 1st album was trashed, with A&M and unreleased then Kevin and the Guys saved her ass.

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

I find it quite interesting Bill Botrell did so much to get her started, but she dumped him very quickly after the first album because he was a perfectionist and drove her crazy on that album... which to this day is probably her best album. She never again worked with the Tuesday Night Music Club as far as I know (did not know about the tour band issue mentioned here as that probably did not help).

[@gargaduk]

Or he dumped her, you know...

[@Buc_Stops_Here]

@@gargaduk No, I found out later that they reunited later on another album (just Bill Boetrell not the Tuesday Night Music Club) and they did okay together but nothing like the success of her first album. From the documentary I saw it was clear she left him and the band.

[@gargaduk]

​@@Buc_Stops_Here I too heard they tried something after Tuesday Night Music Club, and that Botrell walked out on her on the first day. “I now know,” says Bottrell, “why Padgham, the most successful producer of the ’80s, missed the main point of this chick whom he was working with.” And? “Well, she’s fucking hopeless. She’s obnoxious. I mean, she was probably needling him to death, you know, nagging him to death.”

[@slacktoryrecords4193]

Her second and third albums (Sheryl Crow and The Globe Sessions) are both far better than TNMC.

[@MrLandry2010]

I had that album great CD, She looks good.

[@ProckGnosis]

Show business definitely has healthy bits of ego, so I'm sure there's a middle ground to the story that wasn't clearly painted by either side. Interesting to note, if you look at the writing credits for her first album, there were HEAVY contributions from the guys in the TNMC (an incredibly talented bunch), as well as playing the majority of the instruments...so it seems that yeah, they WERE a substantial part of writing and recording the tunes from her first album. I doubt they got the album writing/playing credits at the time just because Bottrel (the producer) and Crow were being nice. And to be fair, they (the TNMC gang) weren't part of her subsequent releases which had a fair amount of good material as well, so there are plenty of indications it wasn't just TNMC that made her career. Sad to see the arguments and egos get in the way of just recognizing a good record.

[@everylittlecrapshedoesismagic]

KEVIN GILBERT

[@kevinscott5558]

She quote's Geffen as a Record Company in the 60's/70's... she is as wise as her choice in shacking up with Lance Armstrong..

[@drebatista]

…. And the whole “ I don’t wanna be pretty “ she took from Tory Amos Story.

[@frankbossert1002]

Wow - how easy it seams to get rid of the skeletons in your closet when you tell the story as the shiny celebrity. Get into the truth of the "Tuesday Music Club" and how she presented the ideas of the boys "that fell through the cracks" as her own - culminating to the lie she told Letterman, that "Leaving Las Vegas" was autobiographic! And then hear her talk about authenticity - she made a great couple with the equally authentic Lance Armstrong!

[@TheChef470]

I'm surprised she mentioned Kevin Gilbert after her screw job of him and the Tuesday night group.

[@drebatista]

Kevin Gilbert, not you. Kevin Gilbert.

[@recklessfable8292]

TNMC was not her first album....

[@jkoff76]

What's that line from Favorite Mistake. "I'm no fool to this game." Damn straight. Smart woman.

[@rickvenlo1362]

Can’t bring myself to give you a pass here

[@imalaffer]

I be leaving miss Broadway. Political correctness won't accept the inverse true.

[@KevinOnKeys]

"We just can't see painted toenails on the foot that fits that shoe…"

[@LucienProstano]

Does she have a tattoo of Buddha?😂

[@anthonylloyd4248]

Best album from the lovely Sheryl ❤

[@darrenbennion6086]

Miss Broadway

[@soundvision5273]

She owes everything to Kevin Gilbert who she snubbed when the record was released