Engwe Engine X vs Engwe EP 2 Pro ebike Speed test Which one is best Which one to buy

[@Ginge2417]

Thanks for your fun but informative review , take care and safe riding!!

[@baconbuttties]

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[@Electriclentilman]

I’ve watched so many “ reviews “ that I was feeling bamboozled , wish I’d seen this first . Great video.. cheers fella .

[@baconbuttties]

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[@felipegvferreira]

Really fun video, you simply nailed down all the tuneups of the bike cyclocomputer and I was just needing that. Amazing! Keep the good work

[@baconbuttties]

Thanks 👍

[@andrewtaylor2525]

I think one of the things that helps these bikes overcome the certain restrictions in the UK is its cruise control just hold yourself at 15 mph or lower for about 8 to 10 seconds and then the cruise control will kick in and you can just enjoy the ride.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@Allan8080]

Elsker dig, du er FULDSTÆNDIG fantastisk og nøjagtig, det jeg havde brug for😊

[@baconbuttties]

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[@craigthompson6991]

Thanks for your comparison video on engine x ! Not many videos out there about it..... was hoping it was legal ( kind of) but more powerful! 😊

[@baconbuttties]

I think it's " legal " enough, you could even remove the half twist throttle to make it align with the ebike rules. 👍

[@kayakfishing360uk7]

Something else you might like to review is the luxe biking "bike sentry" . I bought one for £47.95 and its a combined alarm, horn, back light, brake light and indicators , and it fits just below your back light on the plate. It's absolutely brilliant and a steal for less than 50 quid.

[@baconbuttties]

I will give it a look, thanks 👍

[@dtz1000]

I've seen the exact same thing on Alíexpress for less than £20 including delivery. I used to have it and agree that it works well.

[@martinarend4250]

thanks for the detailed test. In Germany we have exactly the same restrictions regarding the maximum power of 250 watts that an e bike can have. I'm going to buy the Engine X and travel legally and if you feel like it, you can unlock everything. Excellent. thanks for the video.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@hannesdobbelaere]

very good info on upgrading the front brake for cheap, love it. thanks.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@simonshorty2]

Great video, waiting on an order, bought the ep2 pro but got cold feet and hoping they can send out the x instead so im "legal". What is weird is that on the UK website they do not mention legality at all, little bit naughty. Nice to see you live in my hometown too!

[@baconbuttties]

The X and the Pro are both great bikes

[@felipegvferreira]

Valeu!

[@baconbuttties]

Thank you 🙏

[@davybloggs1564]

Hi, great informative video which has persuaded me to buy an Engine X. I would like the 203mm brake disc, but your link no longer works. I've searched and there seems to be many different 203mm Shimano rotors available, so could you please point me to the exact one, with spacer, that you've used. Thanks.

[@baconbuttties]

Spacer is ISMMAF203PSA. Any 203 disc will do the job

[@rufusirvin5279]

I use Juintech cable actuated hydraulic brakes. Don't need to bleed, use the same cable, incredible easy to adjust with just the turn of a knob and they work very well. Juintech M1 should be good enough for either of those bikes but they also have 4 piston brakes as well.

[@baconbuttties]

I have never tried cable operated hydraulic brakes, will have to try them out in the future 👍👍

[@philgreen815]

I have the Engine X and it is excellent. I did have reservations about cable brakes, but on testing they are quiet adequate. Also thinking of hydraulic brakes, they are more complicated and require a higher level of maintenance.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@Aloush77-n9k]

Hello, nice explanation, but is there any damage to the battery or engine if I increase the speed?

[@baconbuttties]

No damage will be done

[@Steven85-8i]

Hello,nice looking e-bikes,both doing 27mlh with the speed off is good going,but as a bike the are worth the money.

[@baconbuttties]

Totally agree 👍👍

[@jorgejorge5542]

Great video, thanks! I own a Engwe Engine Pro and I also can disable the throttle and set the maximum speed to 25 kms/h. I also bought a 250w sticker from Amazon. So the Engine Pro and the Engine X are both the same in terms or legality, I supose...

[@baconbuttties]

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[@styvo25sf-ro32]

Hi , How did you disable the throttle , by setting of the menu ? I own olso the Engwe pro , bat here in the Nederlands start to hawe problems bekauze of 50 kmh speed on the fetbikes , moust problems makers are the 12/16 years olsd Childrens 🤕

[@baconbuttties]

@@styvo25sf-ro32 hold down brake lever and fully press down on throttle and turn the bike on at the same time. keep lever and throttle pressed and count to 10 seconds and leave go.

[@styvo25sf-ro32]

@@baconbuttties Thank you for your answer! I just try it now bat didn't work. The throttle still work and torn on the motor. Bat i hawe the Engwe pro upgraded version 750w not the Engwe x .

[@howardridge1153]

The brake things are called 'Calipers', great video btw, 27mph for that price who can moan, i would make a calculated guess that this is probably the cheapest full suspension/foldable e bike available.

[@baconbuttties]

Yes it is a good price for what you get 👍👍

[@dtz1000]

It's amazing value for money, especially the legal one. No other UK legal ebike is as powerful.

[@rubenruiz3850]

Hola de nuevo 👋👋👋 Me ha gustado ver ésta pequeña prueba de velocidad... Estoy a punto de comprar la Engine X y me gusta ver todo lo relacionado con ella. Me gustaría ver si esa igualdad en velocidad que comparten estos dos modelos se mantienen a la hora de subir cuestas. Sería interesante ver una comparativa con estas dos bicicletas subiendo alguna colina que tengas por allí. Gracias por tu vídeo y un saludo✌️✌️✌️

[@baconbuttties]

Se sienten muy similares en las colinas y el poder se siente igual. La Engine X es una gran Ebike. 👍👍

[@rubenruiz3850]

Gracias amigo, ya llevo un largo tiempo deseando tenerla. 👌👌👌

[@baconbuttties]

@@rubenruiz3850 👍👍

[@migmaneverson2945]

I have the hard tail bike and have fitted a suspension seat post and changed the rear cassette so I can keep up with the motor at high speed and a Selle Royal Drifter saddle.

[@baconbuttties]

Quite a few mods then. Did you change the rear freewheel to a 11 tooth instead of the 14 tooth small gear?

[@migmaneverson2945]

@BACONBUTTTIES Yes, .I have

[@baconbuttties]

@@migmaneverson2945 👍👍

[@dtz1000]

@@baconbuttties Would you review some of these mods? I have not seen anyone test these mods on KZbin. I would really like to go faster than 20mph by pedaling on pedal assist, but not sure where to start or if there are downsides to doing it.

[@baconbuttties]

@@dtz1000 11 tooth small rear cog is usually the lowest you can get and if that's not enough then you have to get a bigger front sprocket but then that will change all the gears

[@mikersson]

Nice video. I broke my Logan brakes in the handlebar and I would like to buy a Shimano system. Do you know which model is very similar to this Logan? Also I have seen the mudguards in ther market are very similar but sometimes it doesn´t match. I had an accidentet some months ago, and I have to change the mudguards and the Left brake handle bar. THank you.

[@baconbuttties]

I'm not sure what brakes match up to Logan as I have used them, sorry.

[@migmaneverson2945]

Hi ,great video,but can I correct you,you can get cable operated hydrologic brakes as I have fitted them on my Engwe. Easy to fit and use the original cables and leavers.

[@baconbuttties]

Yes that's right 👍 I stand corrected. I did watch a video the other day and someone was fitting zoom cable hydraulic brakes. Did you find them to be an improvement?

[@migmaneverson2945]

@@baconbuttties Yes they work very well 👌.

[@baconbuttties]

@@migmaneverson2945 👍

[@jmsBungz]

So.... 1st day on the X to work when I got there I noticed kick stand fell off 🤷🏽‍♂️somewhere on the journey, little dent in the back mud guard when out the Box😐 and hard work up hill without throttle so I might have to use it up that hill.... Still a great bike

[@baconbuttties]

Glad you're enjoying it 👍 the bolts must have been loose on the kickstand?

[@MOLZY20R]

I would like to see your review of the Engwe engine pro :) as that is the bike i am most considering, not a fan of the new M20 myself

[@baconbuttties]

Yes I would like to review the Engine pro, if they do send me one I will be sure to do a review.

[@brianfish8269]

Does the engine x have a cadence or torque sensor? Thanks

[@baconbuttties]

@@brianfish8269 cadence sensor if I remember correctly 👍

[@philipmaude]

Mine is ordered from Amazon I have ordered the Engine X as my mate loves his

[@baconbuttties]

Engine X is a great bike 👍

[@theogster]

Hi, great vid :) do you know if it can be unlocked for the higher speed, but still have the throttle disabled ?

[@baconbuttties]

I think it can 👍

[@JTlondon-f6d]

Nice bike thanks for the video

[@baconbuttties]

@@JTlondon-f6d 👍👍

[@carlosvasconcelos5772]

Is the motor of the X the same as the ep2? After unlocking the speed can we say they are the same?

[@baconbuttties]

I can't say for definite, there may be some internal differences. Unless I took them apart it's just best guess 👍

[@samphire]

It would be interesting to know if there is a torque difference between the two on a hill climb.

[@baconbuttties]

They feel similar 👍

[@philiplewis9825]

So if they bother product the Same power why the difference in price?

[@baconbuttties]

X has rear suspension and a better rear rack

[@neilfurby555]

Well presented and useful. Thanks.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@matox01tekk]

i had my suspicion after watching enough reviews that the motor is the same and they just put different sticker and maybe do something in the controller, so they can sell it in europe because they are not going to source new engines which might not even exist like 250w is a joke, the speed limit i can respect but forcing us to use something which has less power then the legs is stupid, i would not spend money on something i could easily do on normal bicycle for few hundreds.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@markteager]

Very good video Been trying to purchase pro ?!

[@baconbuttties]

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[@EMarSounds]

Thanks for your review.. I saw the X26 first and it's one nice lookin bike, also the M20 is retro. But I dunno, can those two have the throttle locked for EU regulations. Do you think the Engine X and EP 2 Pro frame size is big enough for a taller person? I'm over 6 feet tall.

[@baconbuttties]

They are quite large bikes so should be okay. The seat and bars do adjust.

[@EMarSounds]

@@baconbuttties You know I'd really love to get that X26, but I'd settle for the M20, although I'm in Ireland and like yourself, we're limited to the 25km/h models, although we can unlock the Engwe bikes for up to 45km/h. I'm only considering the Engine x because the throttle is locked, not sure about the X26 or M20, there's a few people scooting around on them here too.

[@baconbuttties]

@@EMarSounds you could always disconnect the throttle.

[@Mowgi]

Hey mate, I ordered an Engine Pro last week! I just wanted to say that your videos have played a part (along with a couple others) in my choice of Engwe. So thank you, mate! I love your video style. Sidenote, is that actually an Engine X and not an Engine Pro? I thought the Engine Pro had the flared front (under the handle bars) and the Engine X had the cylindrical front end.

[@Mowgi]

Actually, I see the Engine X text right on the bike. I guess the 250W makes it the X.

[@baconbuttties]

That's great, the Engwe bikes are great value. The frame used on the Engine X is the same as the Pro I think. The Pro has a different motor/controller , bigger battery, different front forks, hydraulic brakes and a nicer display.

[@Mowgi]

@@baconbuttties I can't wait to get it :)

[@baconbuttties]

@@Mowgi 👍👍

[@cupidstunt3502]

Great vid mate. But how do you change from kph to mph. Cheers.

[@baconbuttties]

I think I covered that in another video in these two bikes. The settings for the screen are on the Engwe website and it tells you how to change it.

[@Mradam-vf9be]

Can the EP-2 pro 250w version be unlocked?

[@baconbuttties]

Long time since I had it so can't remember, sorry

[@gaznixon9488]

Hi. you seem to know quite a bit about ebikes and have covered the Engwe brand well, but, I have a request video. I have just bought the Engine X. on the website they show ''Rear Rack + 13Ah Rear Battery for Engine Pro / Engine X'' and reviews say it is simple to fit, So figure you could really add any 2nd battery. I've seen videos saying you basically get a thing that both plug into and plug that in. a video showing the whole process would be really helpful if you could.

[@baconbuttties]

The thing that plugs in is a battery balancer. I did it on my engwe M20 with 2 batteries. I can't remember if I showed it on my engwe M20 video...

[@gaznixon9488]

@@baconbuttties I'll try yo find the video. am guessing to access the controller on the Engine X, you would need to go behind where the battery folds into in the frame?

[@baconbuttties]

@@gaznixon9488 yes you have to access controller.

[@gaznixon9488]

@@baconbuttties a random question for you, but what controls the LCD display? I have an Engwe engine X and a Deepower x20. Both have the identical LCD's. However when I attempt to lower the speed limit on the Deepower, it does nothing. The only way to lower its speed is in the power assist menu. And the throttle wont turn off. Holding the brake and throttle comes up as error 25, holding just the throttle error 22. Doesnt matter which one I do, it just halves the throttle power rather then turning it off. I even tried copying every setting off the Engine X but that didn't work, done a factory reset too. I don't understand why the same LCD isn't working the same on both bikes :)

[@bepto4877]

Looking for a foldable ebike to carry in my campervan. Is a 250w bike going to be able to carry a 20 stone guy up an incline is my question. I would prefer to remain legal.

[@baconbuttties]

This has quite alot of power considering it's labelled 250 watt... You will be pleasantly surprised.

[@sadiqbashao7]

​@@baconbutttiesHello there I have a doubt !! I'm confused on engwe ep2 pro 250w and 750 w motor versions which one to buy because ,I'm trying to buy with Amazon so I can get installment plans , shall I go with the 250 w version?? Advice pls, because I could see the 750 watt and 250 w 2 versions in their official website!! Pls reply

[@mange2]

Surely the brake pad surface area contact would make no difference whatever the disc size? The pads are still making the same contact and so the same stopping performance. Im no expert but its just a thought.

[@baconbuttties]

It's a bit like a lever, the longer the lever the more torque applied. The bigger the disc equals more force applied, also bigger discs can dissipate more heat.

[@mange2]

@@baconbuttties thanks for explaining. I'm learning all the time.

[@baconbuttties]

@@mange2 So am I 👍👍

[@loogan7440]

So lets sort things out. ENGWE ENGINE X ---- actually has the same 750w motor as EP-2 pro? right? If not, why they feel the same ?

[@baconbuttties]

I believe you are correct.

[@BLASTTHEFOOL]

The upgraded version has different settings after you hold the +&- for 2 seconds. Do you know what all of the settings are? It goes from 01p to 19p

[@baconbuttties]

I don't know what every number is

[@jazpaulallen2409]

Hey. Cool accent 😎 and great review How noisy is the motor?

[@baconbuttties]

Motor is not that noisy at all.👍

[@DavidS11]

On the Engine X, as it comes with the legal limitations, would you say the power is also limited to 250W or it's using the entire motor up to the speed limit? I'm considering it to go to work but have a 2km uphill, which I believe the 250W will be ok, but wondering if it will make it so I can go to the 25km/h that it is limited to, as to avoid being too slow for the other traffic

[@baconbuttties]

The engine X is very good on hills and uses the full power up to the speed limit.

[@MasterDeroy]

Even the 250w models output 1100w of max power with pedal assist. Engwe curving around UK laws.

[@Lkh164j]

I don't really understand why the Engwe Engine X is more expensive than the EP-2. We are talking about 30% more expensive. Did you notice any other improvements in Engine X that explains why it's more expensive?

[@baconbuttties]

Rear suspension is always going to be more expensive. There's the rear shock and different rear rack made from aluminium and more engineering has gone into the rear swing arm.

[@RagedContinuum]

Decided to buy an ep-2 today for 720$.. if I can bike around town and to work then maybe I can extend the life of my toyota a few years

[@baconbuttties]

Good price 👍👍

[@Mradam-vf9be]

Did you get 250w or 750w?

[@jiriwesley1962]

I wonder if both models have the same max amps(A) on the drivers. And how many(A)?

[@baconbuttties]

The EP-2 pro is around an 18 amp controller

[@swecreations]

I would be really curious what the difference in weight is

[@baconbuttties]

Almost the same I would expect. The weight should be on the website for each bike.

[@swecreations]

@@baconbuttties Yeah it's the exact same on the website but don't really know if I believe that considering the additions on the Engine X, that's why I was wondering.

[@tayranhamza2377]

Hi do you think the engine x will be good for 25miles per day?

[@baconbuttties]

If you pedal a bit then it should do it easy. Throttle only would be close.

[@Azgriff]

I tried this and it didn't work , I might have a newer model , there's a easier way to unlock throttle now , hold + and - at the same time and computer changes then just hold down + for about 16 secs then boom it'll work 👍🏼

[@baconbuttties]

@@Azgriff 👍👍

[@fantastikusst9307]

Very good and detailed review !! And usefull to know ,, Thank You !! .

[@baconbuttties]

Thanks 👍👍

[@dust6242]

if one ever has leak on their hydraulics while needing to stop they would appreciate mechanical.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@TheSEADEVIL69]

Hi mate, from the other side of Machen mountain. Looking at getting a used one in the Engwe or Fiido, which one would you rate and why? Also any tips on viewing a used one?

[@baconbuttties]

Are you thinking of a specific Engwe model?

[@TheSEADEVIL69]

I push/ride fat bikes up Cwmcarn, and on the canal with the missus down to 14 locks Rogerstone also. I'm a photographer and drone enthusiast, so may take a camera or drone out also, with the fitting on the bars for a hand controller. So could be investing in two used ones before next spring. I know my mountain bikes as a home mechanic and had hundreds since the 1980s. I'm a big bloke, 20st so need a smaller diameter wheel and 4in tyre. My fat bikes are 26in wheel and 4in on one and 4.8in on two others, so know how they feel etc. But like the look of the two you are reviewing here, also the shape of the M20 and Fiido M1 or M21. I don't really need rear suspension, or even front suspension, but reliability as the priority and hopefully distance out with the missus next spring (helping her to get motivated). All I seem to be seeing is dodgy foreigners trying to rip me off for a new one on Marketplace, I guess they are all linked throughout the UK as all the ads look similar, so finding a used one, or even a new one is concerning me.

[@baconbuttties]

@@TheSEADEVIL69 I found the two I reviewed here very good comfortable bikes. The M20 isn't the best if you want to peddle as well as you sit lower but it does look and ride nice.

[@TheSEADEVIL69]

@@baconbuttties Yes, just saw your vid, I want to pedal and ride, just as an option, so the M20 will be ruled out.....sitting too low. Was thinking of my own stem, BMX type bars as I run 800mm wide anyway, for control my own seatpost and seat/pedals. What's the seatpost diameter on the two you are reviewing?

[@baconbuttties]

@@TheSEADEVIL69 I can't remember as I don't have them now.

[@CobraInc1]

What’s error 25i have it what have I done

[@baconbuttties]

How to fix the error 025 of Engwe Ebikes Error 025 indicates the braking abnormality, it means the braking system is dis-connected to the controller or the braking handle is broken.

[@HRLopes]

Hi, is the EP-2 Pro legal on UK roads?

[@baconbuttties]

It's classed as a 750W ebike so it isn't legal

[@HRLopes]

@@baconbuttties Thank you matey. You just stopped me from losing £950. Much appreciated.

[@baconbuttties]

@@HRLopes engwe has quite a good selection of 250 watt ebikes if you want to stay on the legal side 👍

[@HRLopes]

@@baconbuttties Yeah I was just looking at the X. Might go for that. Once again thank you for the advice. I just subbed to your channel. I learned alot watching your video. Forgove my English.

[@baconbuttties]

@@HRLopes 👍

[@viktorviktorovich3604]

Привет. На рост 1,65 подойдёт?

[@baconbuttties]

You should be okay, but it is a large bike

[@majordelays4909]

Aren’t hydronic brakes like £30 each end? Ok it seems shimano SLX have gone up to £37.99-60 on google search but I stocked up when they were cheap a couple of year ago before my ebike journey. Retailers should just fit good brakes and charge £100 or better still the true cost….

[@baconbuttties]

I have seen a full set of ebike brakes with cut if switches for around £50 ish

[@Gothylad]

If you don't unlock the speed and keep the bike within 15.5mph, does that make the bike road legal? Thanks:)

[@baconbuttties]

The Engine X has 250 watt stamped on the motor the EP 2 pro has 750 stamped on the motor, so the Engine would be classed as legal if leave it locked.

[@bazlaafpl8077]

Hi great vid! I’m in the uk where is best to purchase engine x? Cheers

[@baconbuttties]

The best place is from Engwe website.

[@bazlaafpl8077]

Cheers mate 👍

[@baconbuttties]

@@bazlaafpl8077 👍

[@dtz1000]

The biggest difference for me is that one ebike is legal, while the other one is illegal to ride on UK and EU roads. I would go with the legal one every time.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

The engine x technically isn't road legal either because you are able to mess with it.

[@baconbuttties]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe Most ebikes are more than 250 watts though, 250 watts is continuous power so there is a bit of wriggle room there. I would say though that technically you can mess with any ebike, like some ebikes have a wire you can cut or disconnect.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

@@baconbuttties yep mate. Had a random Halfords 250w with a water damaged display some guy sold to me a while ago for like £150. When I replaced it the screen had a wattage readout and that motor was pulling close to 600w when faced with any sort of challenge. Managed to flip it on Facebook for £450 after spending 30 quid and 5 minutes of my time fixing it lol. Even my 1500w rated motor will pull 2100w getting me up a hill which is pretty cool. These laws need a serious looking at as even the biggest sellers are putting out bikes which very often are obviously using far more than 250w.

[@baconbuttties]

@@JudeTheKZbinPoopersubscribe 👍

[@learngoalkeeping242]

Can you give discount codes for Engwe bikes?

[@baconbuttties]

I haven't got any codes at the moment.

[@learngoalkeeping242]

@@baconbuttties oh okay

[@samantherfellows5057]

ooooh no you put them nasty handlebars back on lol no no no get them of lol great vid thow

[@baconbuttties]

HaHa. I have the handlebars off for my next project possibly, so you may see them again at some point 👍👍

[@John-xp8fc]

Hydrolic cable calipers can give 33% braking improvement.

[@baconbuttties]

That's a pretty good improvement 👍 Never tried them myself but will have to give them a go

[@learngoalkeeping242]

Does the engine x have cruise control?

[@baconbuttties]

I'm not sure as I can't remember.

[@ogregialzsorop5941]

Can you use these bikes in rain?

[@baconbuttties]

I expect so 👍

[@ogregialzsorop5941]

@@baconbuttties thank you! I think I have made my decision.

[@baconbuttties]

@@ogregialzsorop5941 from the Engwe website... Question: Is it water resistant? Answer: Yes, the bike is water resistance for normal rains or water, but do not expose it in rain for too long or wash it by hoses directly, which may damage the battery and other electric parts.

[@ogregialzsorop5941]

@@baconbuttties no hose just London

[@baconbuttties]

@@ogregialzsorop5941 👍

[@Mhti92]

Here in Belgium the police definitely will stop you if you drive around 40-50km/h with this one.

[@baconbuttties]

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[@fastandyc]

Anybody after ep2 pro £850 to your door in the uk?

[@iosu427]

Zenkiu❤

[@baconbuttties]

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[@Iheartmyson]

Mine has a different screen

[@baconbuttties]

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[@tricolor6184]

A pista que você escolheu para o teste foi péssima....😢😢😢

[@baconbuttties]

?

[@samantherfellows5057]

sorry for got engwe x all day better

[@baconbuttties]

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[@piespeafield]

Pointless, every make of e bike comes from the same factory in china 😂

[@baconbuttties]

Obviously they do not

[@EliasSE666]

Dude you said so many wrongs things…

[@baconbuttties]

Go on then tell what I said wrong.

[@lizvickers7156]

Would be a better video if you didn't do that stupid laugh after every comment. It's not needed and doesn't add anything to the video.

[@baconbuttties]

Unfortunately I can't erase my personality. My stupid laugh is who I am.

[@krshoreham7634]

I’ve subscribed because of that laugh 😉

[@baconbuttties]

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[@ElevatedAgenda]

​@@baconbutttiesYou're cool. Keep being you.

[@baconbuttties]

@@ElevatedAgenda Thank you.