Bad Eyes = No Friends? The Wound Of Wearing Glasses (Ego Psychology) - Inner Work Library [146/500]

[@jordanthornton]

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[@karlsapp7134]

Jacob Israel liberman has some great books on this. Luminous life is one to start with then he has some practical books as well for healing eyesight. I connect with everything you’re saying here. As a fellow glasses wearer there is definitely a relationship to embodiment and how I perceive the world.

[@giulias.5104]

Wondering, have you red a book by Dr. William H. Bates MD, titled "Perfect sight without glasses", published in 1920 in N.Y.? If you haven't, I hugely recommend it, it is very interesting and useful. This eye doctor made the discovery that most eye problems were/are psychological stress in the mind, wrong/stressful behaviors learned from parents or at school. He went on treating successfully his patients, and his method is still thought today. (In the book he explains the exercises) I have tried them and they works (but you need to be consistent over time, it is a process, especially for those who have worn glasses for many years). Cheers, and thank you for all that you are sharing.

[@jordanthornton]

Yes, the Bates method is what I struggled to remember in this video. Thats the one.

[@SdW.8]

This is fascinating. I'll absolutely look into this. Thank you for sharing.

[@kellymorgan9478]

You have inspired me to re examine this avenue in my life and begin again to take my glasses off to see. A few years ago I connected the visual abuse I saw as a child to my vision blurring to protect me. I know there's many layers to this and would love to hear more from you on this subject. Thank you for all the work you share

[@jordanthornton]

The protective aspects of visual blurring is something I wish I could explore more in detail here, but it's so controversial that I'm not sure how it will be received. Thanks for sharing your experience, hard to share but important.

[@redefinedliving5974]

Wow. This is fascinating! My vision started getting bad when I had severe depression and anxiety in HS! I

[@jordanthornton]

The connections might be there, if you keep looking further into it?

[@dr.bandito60]

I think you are really onto something about the experience of poor eyesight. I got corrective vision surgery last year for precisely this reason. I grew up pretty dissociated. I’d grown tired of relying on constrictive glasses, and I could finally afford the procedure. I really felt it could help me feel more connected to the word. And it has helped.

[@jordanthornton]

There's more for us to learn here, I agree.

[@dianeclayton4936]

I went through a Dark Night of the Soul. During that time I lost my prescription glasses several times. I really relate to this video! Thanks Jordan for your insightful (pun intended) material.

[@jordanthornton]

Eyyy, good joke - and thanks for sharing this here. It's always fascinating how life flows.

[@kdjourney51]

A teacher finally demanded I get glasses at age 9. AND faces were for the first time apparent. Ty for addressing the nuance. -2.5.

[@jordanthornton]

Thank God for that teacher!

[@madhuryabalan4118]

Love the spontaneous speculative content. I am curious about other sense perception that (for whatever reasons) was limited / injured during childhood

[@jordanthornton]

Spontaneous speculation is the name of the game today!

[@HappyMomma412]

I just wanted to say I appreciate you raising this topic. Thank you.

[@jordanthornton]

Topic we don’t see very often, no pun intended.

[@SterneSehen]

Never really thought about this (not wearing glasses or contact lenses myself), but this immediately made me think of people wearing sun glasses. I never liked talking to people who are wearing sun glasses, because it always made me feel like I was missing out on a lot of the conversation, when I can’t see the eyes also communicating. Never thought about it, that this must be a constant reoccurring problem if you have bad eyesight and how this must impact children when it goes unnoticed for a long time. Thanks for the insight.

[@theangelamorris]

I so appreciate this as I have been doing a lot of contemplation on this very thing and the time I started wearing glasses. I experience farsightedness and am on a mission to heal. I've become attached to the aesthetic of my glasses as a form of "protection" and am working through these beliefs. This is such an important topic that no one talks about. I'm eye gazing morning and evening and intentionally trying to read some each day without my glasses, I've noticed some improvement in that I no longer have to hold the page quite so far away. I'm working with a biophotonic advice as well but I believe this is an energetic and emotional issue as you shared. I can't recall an event that triggered the blurriness but it was distrinctly at 40 years of age this happened. I did 21 days with Sananga eye drops, which helped me "emotionally" feel and see into this concept beyond the physical for the first time. Great video, so much to unpack! I'll check those books out.

[@jordanthornton]

Yes, you’re getting at the deeper energetics of vision and tools like glasses - I know that journey, and I appreciate you sharing some of your story here as an example for others 🌲

[@shanelivingston3334]

Thank you jordan Thurman for everything

[@jessenoelle262]

Brilliant observations! I can't wait to read more about this subject!! I've also worn glasses from quite a young age. And really, it seemed as though my vision only worsened over the years. Bi-focals by high school. Astigmatism in college. I've recently begun wearing contacts again, after a brief stint during college (over a decade ago). The feedback from others has been interesting when I consider things I've been told thru the lens of the topic presented. Others have said how much "brighter" and "more open" my face looks without glasses. Younger, even. Forgive the extra long comment; it's just that, on the topic of making eye contact, in general... My own confidence in that area suffered radically (albeit not unusually) during my years in active addiction. Yet even after 5 years of active recovery, I still don't feel as confident or "healed" as I want to be when it comes to this. I've made progress, but I truly thought I would be farther along by this point, and it's a little exasperating. Of course, much of the problem is how habitual the behavior is, and it still takes mindful intention on my part to engage appropriately (esp. if I'm feeling nervous or anxious at the time.) Although, it never occurred to me that my issues around eye contact could have begun developing much earlier than I had ever suspected, simply as a result of poor vision. Anyway, thank you for sharing! I hope to hear you speak more about these topics in future videos!

[@jordanthornton]

I appreciate you sharing some of your story in detail, thank you. Will try to explore more when I can.

[@TowerJunkie]

I’m so glad you posted this! I only got corrective lenses at the age of 4. My abuse started at 3. I got glasses first, but shortly after I did get contact lenses. My vision is -20. To this day i still wear only gas permeable contact lenses because up until a few years ago it was the only way to get my prescription. they cost more but thankfully I have some coverage. Anyway, I was diagnosed at 46 with DID, and I am now fascinated to add this aspect to all of my “awakening”. In 2020 is when my DID came to the forefront with the avalanche of remembering the childhood stuff. I’m now a good bit on the other side of daily flashbacks and living in a constant freeze state. (Apologies for the “all over the place” response) I can now feel more like I belong in my own body. I have also been able to be in the same room as my mother (who let the abuse happen) and not feel small. I felt like the veil had been lifted and I saw her exactly as she’s always been.. I’m planning to follow up on all the books I’ve seen listed in these comments. I’m 50 now and I think that for what it’s worth, I can try to heal my VISION in the same way as I’ve started to heal my trauma. In the end, all of this is connected. This I know for sure. Really glad you posted this and the comments add even more. thanks all!

[@SdW.8]

Super fascinating! My eyes are right there with yours, and needed glasses around the same age. I would remove my glasses to let go and enjoy myself and the beautiful blurry world, which I also got to experience naturally. I always found it as a super power to disengage with the world by taking off my glasses, but I could see microscopically so enjoyed tiny hobbies like seed beading, embroidery and insect collecting/preservation. It's lovely to have vision different than most, and I appreciate the thoughtful experience you bring to us in this video. Much love from the Midwest US 💖

[@Phoenix-Brah]

Damn, you made a video about a sneaky suspicion I've had for years! When I can pick up the periphery I snap to eyes more easily, making that initial step less of a hassle as less neck movement is involved. Fascinating! I'm gonna switch to contacts and observe again.

[@jordanthornton]

Yes, I’ve never been able to stay with glasses after being with contacts and feeling the tangible improvement of facial cohesion / overall connection. Glad to have put this video out today - cheers 🌲

[@AD-vj4fg]

I found this video really intresting since similiar to you i had -3.5 eyevision since little but i only put glasses on at the age of 14 , and even though at the start i felt more connected with the world when putting glasses since i could finally see other people ,their reactions and the world it soon started to feel like i had a block of glass seperating me from reality . I am really hoping to do some type of operation to fix my eyeight since i miss looking at the world as it it is , not through the glass of my glasses and not through the camera of my phone or videos on the internet .

[@jordanthornton]

Wishing you the best of fortune with your path ahead

[@Yara12323]

This is very insightful! I've never thought about my eye sight in relation to my ego and connection to the world, I need to sit down for a moment with this and see what surfaces because it feels true to me.

[@jordanthornton]

Any insights come through? 🤔

[@Yara12323]

@jordanthornton sharing from my personal experience, I was prescribed glasses in first grade during a school visit by a doctor. However, my aunt, who was my "caregiver" refused to get them for me. Consequently, I spent those years perceiving and engaging with the world through slightly blurred vision. It wasn't until I turned 15 that I finally got my first pair of glasses. Despite the improved vision, I hesitated to wear them in public. Even a decade later, I still rarely wear them, only putting them on when necessary, like during my office job when I would wear them at my desk but immediately take them off when moving around. I convinced myself it was because I didn't like how they looked, yet I never even explored the option of contact lenses. Watching your video and taking a short walk around my neighborhood with my glasses on made me realize how unfamiliar the world is to me when seen clearly.. it's like I'm accustomed to seeing it in blurry hues, where facial expressions are indistinct, and it made me somewhat self-conscious, as if stepping out of my comfort zone. It's remarkable how even the tiniest detail can profoundly influence our perception and interaction with the world around us! Thank you Jordan for helping me recognize this, it has inspired me to address it.

[@alchimiaspiritului]

I am glad you posted this. I always had a great eyesight. Recently, at 42, I noticed that I cannot see clearly the writings or people's faces which are at about 200 m away from me. I was avoiding to get an appointment to the ophthalmologist, but with this video I am convinced. Thank you, Jordan, or John... ☺👓

[@jordanthornton]

Wishing you well with your inner and outer vision this year!

[@seppukuhiphop]

I recommend " aldous huxley - the art of seeing"

[@jordanthornton]

That’s one of the books I read and even mentioned it in this video!

[@nfinitedestiny1111]

It’s great that you entertain these topics. I love doing these scientific experiments in my own life. My idea of fun is a bit odd but I also began working on my eyes about a year ago. I went from a -5.50 to -4.50 as of last week. Can’t say if it’s because of the work I’ve been doing for sure though it’s enough to create more belief in the possibility. There were other significant changes in my eyes as well so I gotta keep going with it. Interesting stuff… thank you for discussing it.

[@jordanthornton]

Inspiring, well done!

[@SdW.8]

Anyone else sleep or swim with their glasses on, so you can see when you emerge?!

[@HappyMomma412]

No, but I can understand why you would want to.

[@poudelinlove]

shall start studying your recommendations after my boards. thank you 🌻

[@jordanthornton]

Love to read this 📚

[@sunnymoon369]

Your eyeglass prescription is as bad as mine. I had to start wearing glasses at age 10 as well. Interesting concepts in your vid today. :)

[@jordanthornton]

Ah yes, the beauty of terrible sight 💀

[@cassetterelics]

Fantastic topic! I've been thinking about this since several years ago. Though for me, I got dissociated each time I wear contact lenses as I was so accustomed to wearing glasses. To some extent, each individual is an artifact and every experience leaves some trace psychologically & physically.

[@jordanthornton]

Each individual is an artifact, fascinating.

[@criticalthinker72]

I knew it!

[@jordanthornton]

Wishing you well!

[@no0525]

Genius and refreshing!

[@jordanthornton]

Appreciate your words, thanks for being here!

[@nobodysgirl7972]

Interesting perspective. I never thought about it that way. I might not agree 100 % but there are some really good points. I started wearing glasses at the age of 11 or 12 but I believe in my early childhood my vision was good. One thing came to my mind while watching this video. I found myself comparing short-sightedness to watching this video. You are clear to see but the background is quite blurry. So there is only a rough idea of it. That lead me an interesting thought. If your vision's bad and you only see things blurry there is much more for you to make up, to draw conclusions to fill the gaps of what you can't see clearly

[@jordanthornton]

Connecting the dots and developing that psychic capacity to jump forwards is a part of it, for sure 🌲

[@allisonf3019]

Love this! Thanks for sharing

[@jordanthornton]

Thanks for being here!

[@allisonf3019]

@@jordanthornton you speak so many truths. It's as though you can verbalize the "things unspoken".

[@BrittanyAMorrow]

The thumbnail hooked me 🤓🌲

[@jordanthornton]

It was a nightmare to put together lol

[@gailaltschwager7377]

Thank you, Jordan! I've been wearing prescription glasses since I was three, being extremely farsighted.

[@jordanthornton]

Hope this one opens up some thoughts and reflections for you!

[@gailaltschwager7377]

@@jordanthornton Thank you, Jordan! Happy Easter! 🐇🌺🐣

[@nimimerkillinen]

Contact lenses have microplastics and have another level of discomfort and eventually not realizing the physical aspect of it like with glasses - eventually at least i forgot and i think it might have surprisingly big effect -- not totally unlike ignoring a pebble in shoe. Also the material makes difference, i get different feels with plastic and metal. Could it even have some electric conductivity stuff going on. Maybe not relying on the glasses also gives sense of being able to handle uncertainty/ambiguity/chaos

[@jordanthornton]

Some potent points here, I hadn’t even considered the plastic aspect of contacts…

[@NataliaKarnaukh]

That's why I'm doing reduced lense method/endmyopia. However I love my glasses, they are my protection from outside world (I mean people actually).

[@jordanthornton]

Fascinating points here, and I appreciate you sharing - the glasses protection is something we don't talk about.

[@TheBackPackingPsychonaut]

Hey Jordan, I'm not fully sure what my question is, but I'm going to articulate what I can and hope you have some advice or could make a video from it :) I find myself in a constant uphill battle against myself. Like I'm striving towards an ideal but being dragged back into the darkness by something else. I'm finding that the more internal work I'm doing, I'm realizing that my suffering seems to be linked to not only the perceived darkness of my past but also the knowledge that I am not the ideal I set out for myself. Finding self-improvement from a young age, I have always strived for more and have had this idealized version of myself that I have deposited in my mind, and I use this as a compass to guide my way of life. But the older I get, it feels like there is increasing resistance to achieving this ideal, like something in my existence is preventing me from achieving the ideals that I created. The internal work is allowing me to let go of some of the ideals, and I find through that, I feel less pressure on myself, and my body feels lighter. So I suppose my question is, do I need to let the idea of the future die to free myself up in the present? I remember reading a quote from Jung which said 'if the path before you is clear, it's probably not yours,' or is it a case of dealing with the past traumas to free myself up to gain clarity on what to do next? Sorry for the messy message, I suppose I'm a little confused about what to do next as I'm finding quite a big shift in the way I react to things recently, and it feels quite disorienting. I feel freer but still confused.

[@jordanthornton]

Screenshotted, and will see what I can do my man - a complex question, but could fit into a video about authentic aspiration. Focus on strengthening the basic principles of a good life in the meantime, health, connection and a good level of financial safety - opportunities and new dreams might appear sooner than you expect.

[@TheBackPackingPsychonaut]

@@jordanthornton Thank you Jordan. I tend to look past the basics when they're not even in place yet. If I think on the daily Level I tend to not get as overwhelmed. Appreciate the comment :)

[@esotericaowl2887]

I have bad eyesight but I don't wear glasses unless I am driving or watching a movie/tv because it feels too overwhelming for me to see everything. Sometimes I joke that I don't wear them out and about because I've "seen enough" . I kind of like the peace of not having to be connected to everything, but I also think I'm single because I'm missing attraction cues from men IRL (who are apparently looking at me according to my friends) but look like literal blurry blobs to me, LOL.

[@jordanthornton]

Fascinating hahah

[@fidanfassbender2065]

I started wearing glasses due to the gaming addiction I developed when I was clinically depressed. I only wore them for a few months and my vision wasn’t that bad to begin with, but what helped me restore my vision is extended fasting.

[@jordanthornton]

Interesting connection, happy for you if these are the results you found.

[@KundaliniKing42]

3:35 On the topic of Bioenergetics you can also study Lt.Col Tom Bearden.

[@jordanthornton]

Cool suggestion, cheers.

[@i.marabi]

Me throughout this entire video: YES. WOW. ME TOO. WOW. YES! WOAH!

[@jordanthornton]

Love to see this - happy to have landed!

[@kdjourney51]

The over intense development of other senses- oxytocin/touch, narratives, music, reading and art. Somehow, all these gifts lean more into fantasy because mirroring and gentle corrections do not work because facial recognition isn’t available. Subtly doesn’t work to shape our Selves. Subtly is lost on the unseen fog and blur of shapes and colors.

[@rshicks256]

❤

[@jordanthornton]

🌲✌🏻

[@Zeburd]

Reminds me of this (someone’s ideas on the impact of visual processing on childhood development) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYHIfZeHjr-jbrs

[@jordanthornton]

Yes, the story goes deeper!

[@Kabya31]

First comment ❤❤

[@jordanthornton]

Bravo 🤓

[@krjudit]

Here for this topic and for also exploring further 🤩 This triggered a childhood memory of "wanting to wear glasses like smart people" Taking note to explore deeper/subconscious beliefs around this... In the past 10 years I used to wear contacts a lot, now my eyes can't tolerate them for more than a few hours. Probably the best moment to work through some of this stuff 😅 Any practical methods you tried that worked for better eyesight and you are comfortable sharing? You mentioned reading in the sun 🤔

[@jordanthornton]

The Bates Method - Aldous Huxley, the art of seeing! Great to ‘see’ you here again too, Judit. Hope you and your family are well.

[@krjudit]

@@jordanthornton Thank you, will look into this - didn't know about Huxley's story with his vision! As for "seeing" me, I'm around, I just peeled myself off social media a few months ago to get back time for reading and it is working wonderfully. It also means I'm less visible I guess, but here for the good stuff always!!🌲📚

[@Heart-Core]

♥️

[@jordanthornton]

🌲🌲

[@dacajovanovic4334]

Whaaaaat 🧍🏻‍♀️ Not judging, all you said makes sense to me, I am just shocked how much!