Bad model topology? Fix it all at once with Remesh and Retopologize! [MAYA 2020]

Maya 2020's newly exposed Remesh and Retopologize features allow you to take a messy, uneven mesh and redistribute its faces into something you can actually use for rigging and animation.
*UPDATE*: I figured out a way to use Bifrost to completely skip the manual cleanup requirement! See how here: • Skip manual mesh clean...

[@Autodesk_Maya]

Check out my addendum to this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeopntrpMR2q7M No more manual mesh cleanup!

[@Colteal]

yikes, turned out i mixed up somehow. but i was looking at maya 2019. what means when you need really to go out somewhere for shopping etc.

[@3ddin416]

"fix it all at once" but with fast forward and multiple manual manipulations

[@pdsal5433]

I will let you know how many times will maya crashed after use it.

[@probablydei]

First thing I thought about this too. There's no way Maya can handle all that on the fly.

[@benis6316]

Please do

[@jordanjenkins246]

Worked for me until I tired to retopologise a model with 16 million polygons and then it was still at 100% for about 15 minutes so I turned maya off, but with other models with 100,000 polygons it worked amazing and reduced my 100,000 polygon zbrush/mudbox sculptures down to about 1000 polygons with no tris or n gons

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

@@jordanjenkins246 try blender.

[@jordanjenkins246]

@Zed O think your suppose to delete history after doing the retopology ?

[@IGarrettI]

Go from bad topology to bad quad topology ! MAGIC

[@KRIMZONMEKANISM]

I feel like this would be useful for topologizing areas that aren't really important, kind of like a time saver or something. You'd topologize the face by hand, and then the ears, the back of the head, etc, you'd just hit the button and be done with it. I may be wrong tho.

[@Xirpzy]

Like zremesher in zbrush. No automatic tool is perfect. Manually fixing topology is always necessary. Much easier when you have quads and edge loops, which these tools provide.

[@MellowJelly]

this makes it way easier to adjust than doing it all from scratch duh

[@morphtek]

Dont work your engineers too hard i want my grandchildren to be able to use retopologize

[@bigfisher42]

perfect comment

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

Well if you actually looked at the terrible topology of that model, you can be assured that they will have to retopologize things. Blender in the other hand has had this stuff for several different versions and now it has a remesher that works better than this one, it actually has symmetry, somethingnthis one lacks.

[@Ricekrispy10]

@@TheAmazingJimmy You need to harden the edge you'd like to be the line of symmetry before you retopologize. It's not perfect, but for some relearning a brand new 3D program for a retopologizing feature may not be worth it.

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

@@Ricekrispy10 because I understand blender I have been able to use any 3d program. Why is it not the other way around?

[@johnyruc4955]

Hahaha... Has anyone tested the QuadRemesher plugin ?

[@venucorey]

I don't understand why Autodesk is very less innovative even after being in industry from several decades, blender and Zbrush came after Autodesk and they are very innovative like blender has every tool inside it, you don't have to go out of the software for anything, u even have compositing tab inside it, they are trying to develop a new texture tab like substance painter inside it, while on Zbrush it has the best sculpting tools inside it, remesh,retopo, easy uv's, whatnot?? see if Autodesk doesn't act quickly, just like Mudbox Maya is going to disappear.

[@gogisa1980]

Autodesk, can you please reinvent the wheel again? Pixologic guys are probbably wondering with what you will come up.

[@Papyruski]

Just a reminder this is also already in 2018-2019 its just hidden

[@benis6316]

How do you access it?

[@charlesfeng2012]

@@benis6316 You can use it in MEL. There are tutorials on youtube.

[@TayaYoung04]

@@benis6316 I believe the MEL commands are remesh and retopo you are supposed to remesh first before you retopo. You will actually get a node with all the values to manipulate after using the commands. BUT they crash a lot and for me using crappy CAD geometry it doesn't work at all largely... =(

[@benis6316]

@@TayaYoung04 Yeah, I was remeshing earlier today and maya crashed well over 7 times. I just gave up in the end

[@cg.destroyer]

Zbrush 1.22b is alost in trouble now :)

[@bohdan_lvov]

You probably meant 4R6

[@ReddoFreddo]

My God are you a zbrush hater or something

[@MAJmufin]

I would say that would be true if this was in 2016

[@jasperqueen3676]

Wow this joke went over so many of your heads

[@prodesign5284]

When you said go in manually fix the geometry my heart stopped :D

[@Autodesk_Maya]

Then I've got just the video for you! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeopntrpMR2q7M

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

How about making sculpting in Maya a little less useless so this feature would actually make sense? That would be great

[@Zeriel00]

Why fix sculpting in Maya when they can sell you Mudbox for MOAR MONEY Now if you have a minute would you like to know about our lord and savior Blender... xD

[@NoOne-uh9vu]

Nepu-Tech USA haha yeah, it’s Autodesk after all. The problem is rather that no one in the business I’m in offers blender seats. If there is sculpt to do it’s zBrush all the way. It’s so far ahead of the curve and relatively cheap that blender will never reach its popularity for this specific use case. Anyway I don’t even want the whole mudbox functionality just that the ones already build in maya are actually useable. Even 5$ iPad apps are better than what Maya offers currently.

[@MellowJelly]

people who sculpt and retoplogize are laughed at in places like Sony imageworks in Vancouver. poly modelling is the industry standard and maya can do it well.

[@MikolajF]

I have one question. How many times did maya crashed during all of this? This video is 8 min long, so if it was less than 10 times I am in.

[@CombatKing1237]

i have noticed most people complaining about its current functionality and not what it will be able to do in the future, i mean if we can have a system that allows you to make a quick/rough model and then have it fixed automatically then it would reduce model creation time 10 fold. Thats just to list off one possibility

[@aymericfavre4472]

Great to have this feature available but from what I see in this video I think I will continue to use QuadRemesher in Maya. Better edge flow, speed, symmetry option and less manual cleaning in my opinion.

[@dannyd3dannyd319]

thanx for the info. this QuadRemesher plugin looks cool.... will have to test it more in depth.

[@dannyd3dannyd319]

wow toook a bit of time to test QuadRemesher. I highly recommend to everyone to test it. The results are amazzing! (found this comparison : kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3rCqGBsfcmcrpY)

[@johnyruc4955]

quadremesher is equivalent to ZRemesher, right?

[@snap-n-shoot]

Remesh and Retopologise had been there already for a while. Been using it in Maya for a few years now.... only difference is that it was hidden deep and only found by using a MEL script.

[@Autodesk_Maya]

Also now it works on Mac and Linux. = )

[@Zeriel00]

Ssshhhh How is Autodesk supposed to make a living charging you for "new features" if you keep finding them!

[@nourghafarji]

Maya is truly number 1, it's becoming more faster ans stable, i wonder what's next!

[@DanielSantallaa]

3 min tool that requires 30 min of fixing

[@Autodesk_Maya]

Not anymore. = ) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeopntrpMR2q7M

[@SeianVision]

@@Autodesk_Maya Well kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKPCfp2Cr6p4ndk

[@FlorianFalcucci]

Excuse me, Autodesk, do you know Clarisse ?

[@milantiquestudios7460]

It looks very neat. But with all “one button fix all” options, I am quite skeptical. I can see this working for me when I merge meshes together for 3D printing. Sometimes I can get some really ugly geometry that is just a pain to fix. And this might be able to be used as a good starter for retopoing. But I encourage everyone to at least look at the mesh before calling it done. The better topology you make, the easier you’ll make it for the rigger and animator.

[@mac-facile6566]

Hi, what if I want have the same UV's on bifrost final generated model? Is that possible?

[@DarkSoulpony]

"clean" is a strong word...

[@mattferris3767]

When is 2020 available in the Student version?

[@RLee-oz6gl]

I mean this stuff is in maya 2018 and 2019 already just type in polyRemesh or polyRetopo

[@mattferris3767]

@@RLee-oz6gl GPU rendering with Arnold 6 is not available in the versions you mentioned. Which is a big deal for sure.

[@Scooterwhip]

@@mattferris3767 You can use GPU rendering with Arnold on Maya 2019.2 ?

[@mattferris3767]

niall wales GPU rendering for Arnold was released in v6 which comes with Maya 2020. Autodesk stated it will be available for the education version “soon”

[@Scooterwhip]

@@mattferris3767 Oh I read it wrong. I'm using the student version which does have access, not the educational version. Sorry!

[@Azzazel_]

maya user :Manually trying to fix thousands of triangles of bad geometry maya/zbrush user: Erm....... for real?

[@laganjaestranja6352]

Uh oh, watch out Zbrush, Maya's coming for your gig gurl...

[@keltart809]

poly to vdb will fix that non manifold issues. should be one of the next features.

[@CWSOF]

So, this is only abble for Maya 2020, right? What about Maya 2018 student version??

[@alifstarfath]

Wow thank you for sharing this!! Waiting your next tutorials.

[@microcam6375]

If I remember correctly remesh and retopologize was hidden features on previous version MAYA?

[@viralbible1629]

This is good but has taken to long, there is other third party tools like quad remesher that does this now.

[@techgo4431]

Ja H yeah but now it's directly from Autodesk themselves why would you choose to use a third party feature when its now available from Autodesk.

[@viralbible1629]

@@techgo4431 well by the looks of it quadremesher handles hardsurface alot better, so that's one reason..either way its still positive there is this solution hopefully it will get better

[@kloa4219]

Not animation friendly

[@Frozen_Death_Knight]

@@techgo4431 Because the guy who made Quad Remesher is the guy who made ZRemesher for ZBrush. He is pretty much the leading expert on auto-remeshers. Just based off of this video and other previews of the Maya remesher, it is not even close to what ZRemesher or even Quad Remesher can do (The latter still lacks a few features from ZRemesher). Heck, even Blender's own built in remesher QuadriFlow can get decent results if you know what you're doing, and that is completely free. If you want an auto-remesher and don't own ZBrush, just buy Quad Remesher, regardless of what 3D package you use. It is certainly worth every penny.

[@juancamilobarreramartinez8952]

el vídeo hubiese sido excelente si explicara como corregir los errores que encontró el clean up los errores que corrigió manualmente ni idea que tipo de errores eran y que se hace para solucionarlos

[@LuisSOfficial]

Is this version more faster in rendering - viewport and with less bugs?

[@artemplatesales]

wow this is so useful when I've exported the models from sketchup or revit

[@michaelm4550]

Hello :), I am excited for these new tools. I am using Maya 2019 as 2020 is not openly available for students yet. Your UI and tools look different than mine for the polyRemesh node. I do not have Collapse threshold or Edge length. Is this a maya 2020 thing or is it already integrated by 2019?

[@Autodesk_Maya]

This is a Maya 2020 version of the feature.

[@michaelm4550]

@@Autodesk_Maya Thank you

[@justinyuvilla8944]

can anyone tell me if these are better algorithms for smart retopo than zbrush's zeremesher. It doesnt look like it has polyloop guidance tools.

[@Q_Wanderer]

If there are many holes in the plane, it doesn't work

[@williamhickerson4316]

OMG This dude is amazing! Thank you soo much!

[@louiscalata]

it's nice how it's not hidden anymore

[@shivamwagh1496]

Hey Hi. I have a question : How much it is important when you do modeling your corner edge must be in loop ? Because I'm trying basic models like sofa, table etc but I am not able to achieve that hard edge loop, whenever I use insert edge loop that hard edge loop connection gets cut I don't know how :/ (& I mostly do modeling using 'insert edge loop' tool not like making 2 different parts & then merge/attach them.)* Does this video's method will solve that ? & If I want to make showreel then should I use this method ? Is it ok or is it like 'not industry standard' ? please guide me. 🙏

[@Autodesk_Maya]

Good edge topology is really most important for deforming objects. If your object won't be deforming, then you don't have to worry much.

[@shivamwagh1496]

@@Autodesk_Maya is there any video/tutorial about that you can share with me ?

[@SimantoSteve]

So disappointing. Zbrush remesher is way faster than this retopologize and why aren't you guys giving us dynamic tessellation and curve guides for retopology? You already have it in mudbox why not in maya?

[@Autodesk_Maya]

This is actually a new algorithm that's more versatile than the older Mudbox version (i.e. it handles more cases properly). You can also use Remesh on components to achieve dynamic tessellation before sculpting them. Although it's true we unfortunately don't have curve guides yet, you can harden edges to maintain them during a Retopologize, which in turn will affect the new edge flow around them. As noted at the end of this video, this is an area that is still undergoing a lot of research, so expect the feature to improve over time!

[@SimantoSteve]

@@Autodesk_Maya I hope so 🙁

[@alanoctaviomontoyaherrera1482]

Definitely beyond the opinion of others here in the comments section Autodesk should start borrowing a lot of what Blender is doing right with modeling tools, particles and remesh. I love both programs but sometimes blender makes faster (all things) and Maya does the robust and tedious work that blender doesn't. Pretty awesome feature tho.

[@HitmanWolf46]

Is it also possible in 3D Max 2020?

[@capgras3832]

hello You have good channel you know It would be great if you could guide me too i have a problem in make character skeleton when i rigging character and skin it with model they working but When I turn it will be broken what should i do please help ? 😥😥😥

[@wermil]

Autodesk, I’m a bit disappointed as to how many manual work you recommend in this video for things that can be easily automated. Filling in holes/ clean up for the model - both of these can be automated, I am sure you’re engineers can come up with quick solutions. Since the whole purpose of retopology is to save time for your users, please keep that in mind for the steps that go along with it (it seems that the manual work takes more time than the use of feature itself). I hope this comment reaches any of your product owners.

[@Autodesk_Maya]

They have indeed, and rest assured our engineers are working on it. These are actually pretty complex problems to solve, and we want to make sure we do it right rather than just throw out something quick so it'll take some time. Please bear with us. Also don't forget, this video is showing an absolute worst case scenario. Most models won't be even close to this difficult to cleanup.

[@wermil]

Maya Learning Channel Appricate your reply. Looking forward to future developments to these features 👍

[@korochanew]

Blender is so way better!

[@g24eva27]

I am not sure If I want to upgrade to Maya 2020 yet. I want this tool because It will help me but I must know, has anyone experienced any bad bugs with Maya 2020 yet? I am more of an animator but was tasked with modeling something for someone and I am manually trying to make a good edge-flow but in case I mess up is this a good way to fix it? In the past I have used z brush and the re-topology tool was a nightmare. so I would have to switch between Maya and z brush to get my desired result.

[@nokedlipudinggal8276]

Zbrush after enough practice will make sense why it is the way it is. Stick with that. Great results.

[@patlecat]

Fixing this model seems to take more time than to model it anew :(

[@GROwly-xy1nt]

Thank you so much!

[@cloudshifter]

Does this work well with geometry for animation? (making the character functional)

[@CombatKing1237]

it says no like 2 mins in

[@cloudshifter]

@@CombatKing1237 If it's not animatable then it's uses are preety limited wouldn't you say? What's even the point of using it? There not many uses for a statue.

[@LouSaydus]

@@cloudshifter Cinema. Most 3D artists work in cinema for movies and commercials. Static meshes still need subdivision when rendering because you cant have a scene of 2billion polys when you're trying to layout and animate things.

[@stanpaponov]

Maya is awesome ! As usual...

[@amarthgul5578]

Plz don’t compare that with zbrush, zb and maya are 2 completely different software, algorithms working on zb are very unlikely to work for maya. Maya and zb are like CVS and Kroger, you can find alcohol in both, but they are not the same alcohol and you should not use them in the same way.

[@integragemi7234]

When for 3d max

[@CombatKing1237]

just use a better program lmao, no but seriously y would you ever do organic modeling in max

[@integragemi7234]

@@CombatKing1237 nope thats for z brush but 3d max is cool for hard modeling surfaces

[@Zeriel00]

You know Zbrush has Zremesher right? Why would anyone coming from Zbrush do this in Maya?

[@mixchief]

There's also Exoside's Quad Remesher, which I love and use in both Blender and Maya. If I'm not mistaken, made by the same fellow who made ZRemesher.

[@Zeriel00]

@@mixchief That sounds interesting. I just don't see the reason for paying for extra add ons when Zbrush already does this...

[@peter486]

Zbrush could fix that in a button press. then i would take it back to maya and create a low poly from it. Goig annd fix by hand its just super time taking. still like maya its very powerfull.

[@SmashBrosmike85]

It runs so smooth on your computer.

[@He_Who_Frolics]

This is amazing!

[@Yushataram]

Sir we have to do uv mapping again

[@herokiryu2652]

Man the day we get an auto retopology for ready made animation... its taking forever..

[@dmaw5135]

right it couldnt take too much longer before they teach an ai how to do it. like there's millions of models for it to learn from

[@herokiryu2652]

@@dmaw5135 all i need is for the ai to know where the loops are.. and a remesher could just fit into these loops.. is it really that simple? i dont know but when im skinning, these are the important areas..

[@korochanew]

try blender insted

[@MoodSwingZX]

is 2020 version is diffrent then 2019,?

[@Zeriel00]

No

[@kloa4219]

Does this give a good polycount?

[@Autodesk_Maya]

You can control the poly count to make it whatever you like.

[@Colteal]

hey, anybody knows, where to get the update? I saw in one channel the guy already uses it. any help please? 0,,_,,0 crying eyes

[@Autodesk_Maya]

If you're talking about Maya, you can grab it from the official website: www.autodesk.ca/en/products/maya/overview If you mean Bifrost, you can grab it from here: area.autodesk.com/bifrost/downloads/

[@Colteal]

@@Autodesk_Maya no, no I already have Maya 2020 but missing Retopologize function for some reason

[@Autodesk_Maya]

@@Colteal Hmm, I'd try resetting your prefs: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqHXppqlg8yqd7c

[@TheCrimson147]

Great content as always!

[@chrisg4433]

🤦🏻‍♂️ just bring it into Zbrush...Done ✅

[@Zeriel00]

Well if you're sculpting you're already on Zbrush all you have to do is Zremesher before Maya but hey now you can pay 5K every 3 years to do it in Maya xD

[@frosted1030]

How does this relate to Mudbox?

[@Autodesk_Maya]

You can now bring in a Mudbox model as either fbx or obj, and retopologize it to get a lower-res version with the same topology. Then you can use the low/high res versions for far/near shots, video games, etc.

[@nicsievers4387]

While I use Maya everyday, what I took from this video was...fix everything manually on complex meshes. Go home Maya, you're drunk. lol.

[@Autodesk_Maya]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeopntrpMR2q7M

[@ponimania]

Retopo in Zbrush 2015, 1M faces = 30 sec. In maya2020 = untill you die it wont be done yet. 16 core CPU ? No, doesn't hear none of them. Graphics boosters ? Really ? In 2020 ? - NOOOOO - WAAAY - SH-UT-UP. зы. Cute Octophant tho ))

[@jaedonwallace6434]

i used it and i love it

[@pedro.varella]

Just remember that this algorithm does not replace manual retopology. The result at the end of this video on the character is simply unusable in production.

[@wesk4646]

i think you still can do lot of thing with this. Mixed with some wrap deformers or whatever, as soon as computers will be able to deal with biiiig topologies animated (performances growing, caches devlopments, etc) it will change the way we rig !

[@driftwood-f4p]

Just buy Exoside Quad Remesher! it's much better than this.

[@herokiryu2652]

What is this sorcery?

[@driftwood-f4p]

@@herokiryu2652 exoside.com/quadremesher/

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

Or just use Blender

[@herokiryu2652]

@@TheAmazingJimmy whats in blender?

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

@@herokiryu2652 every tool Maya, Zbrush, 3DSMax has and more.

[@Fengtos]

Sculpting in Maya?! That was a funny joke. And Pause really? Why is the algorithm running continuously.? Why do you need to "pause" it. Why isn't always paused and you can make these changes on the sliders and if you want to recompute it there is a button "Re-topologize". God autodesk always has such a weird workflow with everything. Also why are you showcasing this with characters. You won't ever compete with Zbrush for characters so just stop. Nobody is going to auto-retopo characters in Maya. If we would retopo it would be either manually in Maya or automatic in Zbrush. And for realistic characters if you have one good retopod mesh EVER there is no need to ever do it again now that there is Wrap 3.

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

Blender has had this tool for ages.

[@JedsAnimations]

No... it really doesn't...

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

@@JedsAnimations it sure does. It's had sculpting for a long long time and it has had a remesher for several years. Now it has an extra remesher that actually projects good, symmetrical quads, unlike the one that Maya has.

[@JedsAnimations]

@@TheAmazingJimmy Did you even watch the video? The remesher that blender has doesn't get close to following the topology that well. The voxel remesh that blender has is good for sculpting, but blender's quad remesh is a mess.

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

@@JedsAnimations the guy who made the cthulu model did it in blender, decimated it and said that he'd use blender to remesh it. Blender's quad remesher does follow topology pretty well, better than Mayas because it has a symmetry option.

[@TheAmazingJimmy]

@@JedsAnimations also, blender is completely free, always has been, always will be. If the "industry standard" wants to beat free software, they need to up their game.

[@lucasdasilvaalves6212]

Maya is becoming a Zbrush?

[@mrpogi23]

that clean up process is daunting and time consuming...

[@Autodesk_Maya]

It is, but luckily I have a solution to that! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeopntrpMR2q7M

[@fuckyougoodsir112431]

I don't even 3d model why am I here? :(

[@gzarari]

Well if you are an artist, 3d knowledge might come in handy :)

[@juancamilobarreramartinez8952]

bueno el video aunque faltaran algunas cosas para explicar

[@leleo2849]

COOL CONTENT

[@Vinicius-tt6sk]

Softimage was better

[@hassanpainter3d]

Bravo ..

[@gergototh2012]

no, no, no, i dont want to do this! we need some AI soon to solve this.

[@Autodesk_Maya]

You're in luck! kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmeopntrpMR2q7M

[@ibcgamingsable]

Nice

[@DPDPDPDP]

That's what i call, "retopologize"

[@chrisrams3D]

👏👏👏

[@skookathing]

dyntopo

[@VickiVampiressYT]

As much as I hate Zbrush, it's been the industry standard for sculpting for years. Why waste man hours developing this when you could, oh I don't know, give us proper modifiers in Maya? Or real time rendering? Kinda like Blender except without all the annoying Blender quirks. Don't get me wrong, I love all this, but I think there's far more important things that should get priority, rather than primitive sculpting tools that won't get close to Zbrush's power any time soon. I'd rather see more tools to improve the modeling and rendering pipeline specifically.

[@Yogiyoboy]

i Tried this giving so much Error keep your software with you third party software is better then this tell your engineers to go and eat USELESS.

[@EngJared]

Sorry but as a Rigger with 10years experience, I despise Remesh as I constantly get lazily Re-meshed models now instead of proper box modeling topology. Its like turning every Artisan Sculpt into a Mcdonalds Toy, much too dense and unpredictable to Rig properly. Leave it to Maya to create a tool that worsens the pipeline

[@HRosenberg]

Thanks again for another Subpar release!

[@nokedlipudinggal8276]

haaaaaahahahaahahahahahhaa. You have to be kidding right :) manually cleaning that stuff up on the scan is virtually impossible and would not want for my worst enemy. Dynamesh can take care of that in a minute or less. Maybe would watch an Autodesk engineer to do it. Zbrush is waaaaaaaaay ahead of you guys in this field. Why would anyone bother to do retopo of an organic mesh in Maya? I would rather see a retopo that actually works on hard edges. Nobody is expecting you to take on Zbrush. Do what you guys are good at and let the more advanced stuff to the pros.

[@AL985]

waiiitttt

[@carrapaz3645]

"Fix all at once..." proceed to do it manually... what a joke Also the new quad topology is very bad

[@proplayer682]

hahahaha!!!

[@kevinpopescu9741]

You can act like prepping the mesh for sculpting IN MAYA would be useful all you want. I dont buy into those lies!

[@Zeriel00]

Sculpting in Maya, hahaha so funny

[@korochanew]

Try blender ;)

[@angrypolygon8410]

Blender is better and it's FREE 😂

[@Yushataram]

Sir we have to do uv mapping again

[@Autodesk_Maya]

No. As shown at 6:52, you can just transfer the UV map from the original.

[@Yushataram]

@@Autodesk_Maya thank you sir you are amazing and your voice 😍😍