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[@DevStarkiller]

Great time to just slowly acquire old cards. I got a Falling Star this year, it sits on my desk in a top loader, it makes me smile. Someday, maybe it will be worth more than I paid and if not, that's fine too.

[@martinmalicus3987]

Paint the house. Makes me chuckle when I think of who is going to buy or inherit Rudy's thousands (or millions?) of cards. I miss the videos talking about the stock market.

[@hamsamich9]

Would love to see a vintage box opening again for old times sake. Just sayin.

[@Nightenstaff]

For collectibles to increase in value, from my perspective, one of two things have to happen. Either more people need to want the item or there needs to be less of the item so the people who do want it have to fight for it. When it comes to vintage Magic, neither of those things are likely to happen. New players have no emotional connection to vintage Magic. Yeah, they know the name Black Lotus and Mox, but to them it's the same as any other card they don't have access to. Most folks who would *really* want something like the Power Nine either already have it or won't pay the price to get it. Like Rudy said, it's deadlocked. The only big event I could see to change the market is if Magic went away.

[@lightworker2956]

Exactly. I think the Rudies of the world don't understand just how unlikely new magic players are to spend thousands of dollars on a Mox. And the people who are willing to spend thousands on a Mox probably have one already. And sure, there might be a person in 2024 winning the lottery and wanting to buy a Mox, but that's not going to hugely move the market / isn't going to hugely spike the price of Moxes.

[@matt9591]

i got some vintage magic... i have no problem holding it for decades

[@kokeoke5061]

new stuff is obtainable, that's why the excitement is there

[@neileldridge5697]

Rudy's Hairy Arms were on point this video! Don't let Hawk Tuah girl see those bad boys! She would definitely spit on those thangs!

[@tartuffethespry]

My biggest bag is graded reserved list foils. Several just ended at auction and hit lows not seen since 2018. Shits rough out here

[@Just_Pele]

Nah man, that's great! This is when you buy, not when prices and FOMO are running wild in the streets.

[@tartuffethespry]

@@Just_Pele that's true. The only reason I didn't bid was because they were slightly overgraded IMO. "Buy the card not the grade" took priority

[@fluxeyesopen]

do we have an estimate on print run for Urza's foils (Treachery, Replenish etc?) I have a few as well but haven't done the research

[@tartuffethespry]

@@Just_Pele I’ve read 2000-5000

[@dominicmetzger3246]

If it’s going to be this long of a winter then it might just be permanent. Reserve list is only going to get less desired as new cards get released that are powerful and the older players leave.

[@owl800]

I think a big factor is that Wizards has effectively turned a lot of old players away from Magic between Universes beyond, ridiculous power creep, and endless variations of cards. These people follow Magic less closely than they used to, which results in a lower likelihood of them spending big money on vintage magic. The past few years have seen a big turnover in the Magic player/collector base in my opinion.

[@KyleBaran90]

Today, I bought two Bloomburrow collector boxes for $362 CAD each (approx $265 USD). Hasbro also announced a Monty Python secret lair. They're going to make a killing on their next ER in 3 months

[@sandwhale4292]

Coming back for taylor swift frfr

[@seththomas7851]

Let’s see the art collection

[@zeradox1901]

Im a collector of 15/16th century maps and city views and I fucking support this comment!

[@xMareZx]

Right we need a walkthrough through the Rudy Museum!

[@sloth9669]

Good. Buy during the winter and you’ll be happy when spring comes around.

[@b.ghosty9749]

But will there actually be a spring? I often wonder how far nostalgia can really go

[@Hapkins-le6xf]

@b.ghosty9749 I think a lot of the high dollar stuff has hit a soft ceiling. Unless you see a strong increase in disposable income, I don't see high ticket cards going up much further.

[@petecabrina]

@@b.ghosty9749 there is always a spring, unless the global economy falls off a cliff, in which case your card collection becomes nothing but nostalgia. Winter looks like it has barely gotten started too, the amount of debt floating around and inflation not going anywhere, or I watch too much doomer economic videos. But in tougher times cards are near the bottom of the list when it comes to a place to hold wealth, you want to spread it around and collect stuff like silver and gold coins as well as a hedge.

[@jorgenorberto293]

I'll keep buying during winter, won't sell in the spring or summer and when a new fall/winter comes, I'll buy again. THEN, when I'm on my sixties, I'll start considering to sell. Maybe.

[@danielkjarsgaard3704]

This is what im saying. BUT, also what i would say is stop worrying about spring and just enjoy the winter. I for one really enjoy buying old cards for less, and am basking in it

[@kilosierraalpha]

So Rudy, what exactly makes you think that in 5-10 years outlook for old Magic would improve? With older players dying off, I don't see how the demand would increase given that supply stays the same.

[@AdamTaylor-n1j]

I believe you are in error for thinking only older players want older cards sir. Also, even the old players are only in our fifties man!

[@lightworker2956]

@@AdamTaylor-n1j For the price of Black Lotus to go up, you'd need a lot of younger players being willing to pay $7000+ for a Black Lotus. Now I can see younger players wanting a Lotus, but I can't see many younger players being willing to pay $7000 for it. And players in their 50s might very well be looking to sell their Lotus so that their child can go to college, or so they can afford healthcare.

[@AdamTaylor-n1j]

@@lightworker2956 Sure, but a Lotus is the most extreme example:I was talking about Reserved List in general. The player demand is based on popularity of Eternal formats, but also (longer term), demand from non-playing sources. Right now, that's people like Rudy, but in the future, who knows.

[@tcsmagicbox]

Reserve list cards are valuable for 2 reasons: 1. limited supply, 2. Many (not all) are over powered game pieces. With power creep in the new cards kicking into high gear, the reseve list is certain to lose it's luster.

[@madquest8]

I heard a Blue Lotus is coming, zero cost artifact, sack for a mana of each colour!! Also Max's... Artifacts, zero cost, tap for two mana, 5 flavours... sounds good!

[@Joshua-gt7pz]

Post Malone signal boosted MTG, got alot of people into it, relit passion for it in alot of nostalgic players. That popularity boost sent waves out. But between the power ramp, and hasbros mismanagement of the IP, stocks will be slowly down turning soon. I believe we're sitting at peak MTG popularity right now, it would be good to offload some bags if you've been waiting 10+ years.

[@xxthevampirate]

If I cant play with the card I'm gonna proxy it and that cannibalizes the value of the reserve list. the only ones with real value are very special ones or played ones See chains, Duels, Invoke prejudice etc.

[@Joshua-gt7pz]

@xxthevampirate Exactly, the reserve list is worth money based solely on the popularity of MTG. Owning a black lotus is a status symbol, or a tournament must, and both of those desperately depend on popularity. It's up to the community to include new players, and up to hasbro to not fuck it up, and only one of those things is doing work right now.

[@daftwulli6145]

You misunderstand the powercreep. Itr is not all cards that have powercreep, for the most part it is creatures that become more and more powerful, but instants and sorceries have been powered down compared to the early days since many turned out to be too powerful and or too low cost. As for artifacts there it is a mixed bag.

[@kevinteneyck3024]

I want to see your art collection!!!!!!!! Please Rudy We would appreciate it so much man

[@Hapkins-le6xf]

Old magic will hold value, bearing some ups and downs. But people have to realize there is a ceiling on it's growth and that peak was likely covid. There's nothing to drive growth in old magic prices except investors who think old magic can only go up. This is not just a problem of new players not caring about old magic, there is a price ceiling problem. Average income in the united states right now is just under 60k. 10 years ago in 2014 it was 53k. What was a dual land in 2014? You need a lot of free income to be buying into old magic, there just aren't enough people that can buy a 400 dollar dual land. You've hit market cap.

[@Temp3st60]

I also think it's a generational issue. The mass spread of popularity was brought about by a nostalgic generation who grew up playing these card games, and wanted to start playing again, but ultimately collecting because of the insane price increases. Post-Covid the excitement has died down but the prices only continue to climb and younger generations just don't care as much about old sets. The longer old sets sit, the less desirable they'll probably become.

[@nathanbarth7909]

The prices have gotten alot not interested. I would love them for the nostalgia but with this economy and the value of the dollar it is iresponsbile and dumb to pay these prices. They will continue to sit overpriced on ebay

[@plecoguy]

@@Temp3st60 I gave my nephew a near complete revised set for xmas last year. He has found use of some of the cards in his current decks and has started trying to complete the set. Everyone in his playgroup has now started getting interested in the vintage cards. The few LGS have started putting vintage in their showcases and prices are slowly rising locally. Some of the older players need to start introducing the newer generation what the older stuff is all about.

[@lightworker2956]

@@Temp3st60 Indeed. I'm sure our parents thought that Elvis memorabilia would only ever increase in value, but it turns out that younger generations typically don't care about the things that their parents cared about.

[@7Alberto7]

I must say i alwais see small increment in value in my RL position,everyday the value of the collection tick up,small steps everyday,i like what i see to be honest,slow and steady,thanks Rudy alwais love these video!

[@nikkeiputter]

Commander Reserved list cards are in high demand of players and prices will keep rising. But the hype for Non-playables Vintage cards is definitely over. Who needs Laces, Web, etc.? Playables in ABU and Four Horsemen will stay in demand, but the condition has become much more important for collectors.

[@robertjohnson6663]

Let the winter come, I am still buying more when I can. Part of the issue is most everyone is going broke with the expense of living day to day and dont have extra to throw into magic on top of it.

[@tharealkovo]

This winter will likely not end. The money to be made on old magic has come and gone. The only time you might see a spring again is if old magic enters vintage art territory and collectors come after the cards. But I doubt we see that even 20 years out.

[@koomer1459]

The old sets are overpriced on eBay because they were bought at high prices. Once the sellers need income to pay real world bills, the prices will start to trend down. That day is closer now than in 2023. The money supply is certainly drying up in the overall economy.

[@arthurfleck4320]

Good. Card games should be accessible to middle class people again. I didn't get into card games to be surrounded by cryptobros.

[@EvaSlayAllDay334]

Now people understand why it’s called a “collectible” card game. These older vintage cards, especially RL cards, will never be reprinted ever again - ever. Over time, that drives up the price and the market slowly dries up of these cards in scarcity. We’re at a point now where it’s tangible and people don’t have 300.00 to dump in an inflated economy on a City of Traitors or 400+ dollars on a Transmute Artifact. People need necessities and these cards have fallen into a dark cyclone of unaffordability.

[@JAO-808]

I started during revised and recently my half brother passed away and left me his mtg collection, power 9 with 2 lotus and a extra mox, full playset of duels, bunch of other high end RL cards. Super cool to own and hold these in hand. Now that i actually have them, oddly i dont have much of a desire to hold on to them vs selling them other than a personal feeling that they were my brothers cards who is no longer here.

[@Capt_McNugget]

want to sell?

[@TheGenXGeek]

I'm good with vintage magic winter, I'm in a buying mood.

[@TolarianUniversity]

Who knew that when “collectors” take cards off the market and create a price spike that people who want to play them can’t and then their investments will suck due to lack of demand when formats die. So the longer you wait the less desirable those cards are going to be because the new players don’t care about them at all. The rest of us who do are 35-45 years old and I doubt any of us will be playing in 10-15 years and if we are the chances we play paper magic are very slim. You’re going to lose infinite to arena greed eventually when they put these cards online, you’ve seen it with mtgo and it’s inevitable.

[@TheDarkElder]

Winter is coming, they said. I think winter is here to stay for a little longer. Good for anyone who still enjoys the old things to get some more of these things.

[@fredflint8399]

Prices on ebay on vintage is still bloated. Not sure what you are talking about. Obviously there are some non near mint stuff selling lower but who wants that garbage. Not near mint it is worthless.

[@dehydratedculture9126]

How can the value go up if you have all of them and no one else is collecting them

[@jorgenorberto293]

Well, I'm in it for the LONG run. I'll keep buying reserved list singles, specialy from the Urza's block, and I really don't care that the vintage market is in a winter period. If anything, I welcome it.

[@danielkjarsgaard3704]

Winter is coming child of summer. AND I LOVE IT

[@mr.nakamura9088]

And that folks is why this is Speculation and not something that is qualified to hold in a retirement account. Feels bad for anyone who bought the top and drifted down to the Mariana Trench.

[@PARISONFIRE]

Vintage magiccards always catched my interest because once i grew up and made money it was like a dream of havin card X. This feeling is gone because prices rocketed so hard. its not like i dont have that money, at this point its just too much and hard to explain to myself why this dualland costs 3k instead of 500 a few years ago. what i want to say is that i think if prices get too high its becoming absolute niche because its just out of range, so logically no new customers will ever branch in that stuff and the old guard thins out due to pricing. still love your videos, good luck

[@cyborg266]

True but those that know it and want it will never let the prices disappear due to the clout it carries with it. Especially Alpha. I was collecting Alpha back when no one wanted Alpha since they weren't legal cards. People shook their heads at me going for useless cards.

[@PARISONFIRE]

@@cyborg266 indeed but this whole "investing" topic for vintage mtg just helped the Wales and now were looking at a dry valley of childhood Dreams. It is what it is xD

[@cyborg266]

@@PARISONFIRE It'll be back. Live long enough and experience enough in life and you'd understand that fact of life.

[@tomglpn]

Nostalgia and investors drove the reserved list. The excitement passed, and normal people realized it's not an investment

[@sloth9669]

No it was an investment….until WOTC killed it with magic 30. They shattered it for no gain.

[@nathangardner4084]

​@@sloth9669that is cope my friend

[@a.w.8216]

Is art more of an investment than magic.... no!!! Who would do that!?!? (SHUT THE FUCK UP RUDY! DONT LET THEM IN! LET THEM NERD LIFE FOREVER!)

[@davidk.1917]

​@sloth9669 The gain will come for Wizards if they go ahead and reprint the reserved list cards at some point in the near future. They shattered the market with M30, and now they're biding time for full on apathy to set in, then they can turn on the printers with little to no resistance.

[@sloth9669]

@@davidk.1917 never going to happen

[@NOLA-vv3sz]

I am not sure I agree on it being in a winter. It all comes down to when you got into all of it. If you got in at the peak, yeah, it sucks. If you got in before that with an entry level cost basis, you should be doing quite well. They all still sell. And they sell for more than they did in 2019-early 20. It has held fairly steady with staples increasing a ton. I used to buy mox diamonds for $250. Dual Lands for 180 or so. Those are all more than double (and in the case of duals, triple) my entry points. All comes down to when you bought in. But the stuff sells when it is put on the market.

[@dom19945]

The company shattered all good will it built with collectors, investors, and resellers. Go figure that things aren’t going well as a result.

[@Just_Pele]

GOOD. I want to keep increasing my collection. Probably mid-high 7 figures now, and growing. Never back down from what you love. Edit: My Golden, Silver, and Bronze Age comics collection makes my MTG collection look tiny (125k books and counting), and that's been flat for a couple years now. I just don't care, they're my first and greatest love in collectibles and I'm going to keep buying and upgrading comics until they put me in the ground. (Then they're going in a comic book museum for other fans and collectors to visit and enjoy as well.)

[@cyborg266]

That's how you win-win.

[@themighty9mm]

Proxies and prices. Old magic events, cedh and vintage, many are proxy friendly because prices are unreasonable for the majority of people that just want to play

[@froggggg643]

Duals might have an uptick with Duel Commander being more or less officialized.

[@Steve-si8hx]

Old stuff better get more reasonably priced soon then

[@rom623ownsu]

all the new gen need to play the old MTG PC game - its what made me hunt and buy a NM su-chi - and i love it

[@hearmth6618]

Reserved list? More like heavy bags list, am I right? 🍉🍉

[@craiggraham4134]

Well Rudy, as a guy who considers himself not a novice but a pro...crastinator I've been meaning to sell my collection for about 10 years but did not...so I might as well double down and bet it all on you being right long-term and if the market for older stuff gets a resurgence I'll be equipped

[@MrBragle]

may the bare market last a couple years longer while i build more of a position

[@AdamTaylor-n1j]

Oh dear, after watching you since Carter was President, you just made me laugh harder than ever: "I'm like a boat now" is perfection. Are you maybe overlooking the correlation between bitcoin bull runs and reserved list prices? May be the catalyst you allude to.

[@energetek661]

Reserve list!!

[@NerdAndProudOfIt]

😁👊🏻❤

[@Matteo_the_Plague_Doctor]

Good! This video makes me pretty happy. Magic isn't an investment vehicle. These cards never should have been this valuable. It's a trading card game, the cards are supposed to be accessible. I'd rather WotC make new cards and reprint the ones we want than thus stupid bullshit. If WotC banned every RL card from every format tomorrow, I'd be okay with that. And I own some RL.

[@cyborg266]

Your stupid argument can be used with everything. Why is a rare car expensive? It's meant to drive. Why is a comic book expensive, it was meant to read and toss in the closet. Try again timmy.

[@doctorgap]

Never owned a single mtg card, but all im hearing in this video is now is the time to buy 🤔

[@misguidedghost3357]

Its because we want to play with our cards (new player). Commander is very budget friendly and that’s very important when standard living is unaffordable.

[@ReedStiles]

Rudy... start doing some old Vintage Box openings for patrons again!? Good opportunity to open cheaper boxes and increase awareness of the old cards. Also provides an opportunity for your to arbitrage some of your boxes with bad wrapping or something similar.

[@danielg5247]

Crypto will begins to boom here soon... and with that comes a windfall of massive amounts of capital.... and with that windfall comes vintage magic buying/ TCG/ Sports memorabilia buying.

[@gegachxiswulisso9758]

Hot take: let's admit that Commander drives RL prices right now. Card is useful to a new, hyped legendary creature? Buy out, card spikes 200% and doesn't fall back to it's low. Without Commander, OG duals are probably still $30-$100. How do you get vintage magic up and interesting again? Create a new format that dethrones Commander as the popular format. An eternal format that cares about having play sets of 4 again. Something like redesigning Vanguard, I dunno.

[@Terribadguy.]

Are we still acting like the reserved list matters? I love your content, but I'll be damned if I take buying advice from an investor. Bit of a conflict of interest. Best thing you can do is not give WoTC a penny until they get their head out of their ass. Sold everything in my collection worth anything and have been playing on Cockatrice ever since. Magic Online belongs in a museum and Arena is about as F2P friendly as a "volunteered" fight at the Roman colosseum. Also an investor saying they collect old art because they enjoy it made me giggle. It's totally not because it retains value very well and you'll just sell it later on. Surprised they aren't locked up where the can't be enjoyed, kinda like your magic decks...

[@D0wnshift]

Reserved list is for collectors and the small group of vintage players. People that want to kitchen table play make their own or buy the Chinese made reserved cards for pennies.

[@timw9745]

Hope the RL tanks for a while, I’ll complete my 40 duals. But because of commander they won’t crash too hard prob

[@lightworker2956]

I can see the duals increasing in value, because of Commander as you say. The cards I'd be looking to sell (if I owned them) is the stuff that's not legal / playable in any non-Vintage format, such as the power 9, but also stuff like Shivan Dragon.

[@timw9745]

@@lightworker2956 Yeah exactly. I’m just not really doing it for collecting, I’m a legacy player so if I buy RL its for legacy :)

[@King_of_Sofa]

But Rudy, you're that big KZbinr to be the Catalyst. Do something to spark that change in vintage magic!

[@stevekeenan9673]

This needed a dark depths or snow covered island background

[@MTGUnpacked]

When Wizards continues to print new cards that are strictly better than reserved list cards or otherwise obsoletes them in all formats, player demand for them will continue to decline. A good chunk of nostalgic collectors left after the Magic 30 debacle. Who's left to prop up demand for the reserved list?🤷‍♂️

[@outdoorstylelife]

Lets just hope the market doesn't stay rational longer than you can stay solvent

[@atunga5]

the focus is 99.99% on play and since power creep has greatly accelerated the old cards are of no interest

[@Syne111]

Buying into power creep seems stupider than buying rare vintage cards, regardless of power. If you just want power, then proxy. If you want a collectible, then buy the real thing.

[@scottm9605]

I started playing during revised. Vintage magic is nostalgic for me, I'm in my 40s. I think the oldest folks who started in that same cohort are probably in their early 50s. We will see one more surge in 15-20 years when we get people retiring with disposable income and want to finally get these old cards but then the market will stagnate again and slowly die. A good analogue is cars for boomers. Look at the market for those 50s and 60s era cars starting to weaken while 80-90s cars surge.

[@cantrips]

Comic books from the 1940s still sell for thousands of dollars, even though people who read them as kids aren't around. The long term value is there if the items are still relevant and collectible. For example everyone knows Batman, there are new shows and stuff coming out, so Batman original comics sell for a ton of money. It's the same thing for vintage Magic, as long as the game is still around there will be people who want to collect old rare stuff.

[@scottm9605]

@@cantrips comic books and the characters have broad pop culture appeal. Magic has gotten shockingly popular but it's not Batman.

[@astreagc1187]

When No Pants Rudy appears, you know it’s serious.

[@OfficeCollectables]

Its been a long time Rudy the market might of hit the highs awhile ago and that might be where it stays without going up or down and stays average price. I thought you just collect and not worried to sell i thought you just wanted to see other sellers that show it sold for that so you know the Market. If your selling sometimes its good to start at the bottom of the pile and start letting it go if it frustrates or worries you etc. If you have that much invested Bro your really not going to lose out on anything right you said the facts if you bought at right time there is no loss. dont let it upset you cuz you can flip so much product and then flip different inventory or bail out all together your still in a win win situation right? Look at Fallout you mentioned its doing well but I dont like it I thought it s from Fallout the video game not Bobbleheads but anyway same with Bloomburrow the market you said luvs it I absolutely hate it. All i want is dragons and potions and artifacts,demons,witches,creatures,magic spells with awesome artwork and Hasbro refuses to do that. They do anything it seams to get the next set out they need to concentrate on bad ass art imo i dont want to see rabits and birds I want to see sick lands. You get the point but dont let it stress you cuz you might be missing out on opportunity I do that constantly keep letting things go that take to long to wait. And i hate to call some ppl Guppies but most cards are let go for nothing then it crashes then the Whales do it cuz of the Guppies Now we got 2 different fish creating market crash while ppl like us try to ride it out. Then Ebay creates its own crash by watching with no live bidding until last second my point is whenever its time its time no point to hold 30k card etc when you can flip that 10-50X by then. Wish All you the best collecting have good day

[@richardslade9307]

I think a lot of card investors in the mid to high range have switched to Pokemon. It is safer, more liquid, and easier to diversify within Pokemon than MTG. Safer to scale larger positions because it’s easier to exit them in Pokemon. That’s why I switched anyways

[@gambah]

I still have to acquire a couple of bazaar of baghdad, so no buyouts on this one yet please :D

[@MichaelSuperbacker]

Rudy!!!!!

[@DailyPlayedInvestments]

I sold out of mtg reserved list this year and so did some majorrrrr players that ik……we all couldnt be happier,

[@labutter420]

Please show off some of your painting or make a video on some of your collection pieces. I'd love to hear your knowledge on a different topic for a change

[@Dragonhaven]

I see a ton of groups in my area are burned out from the fast release schedule. The burnout has made a lot of them switch to proxies. Once they start using proxies, people in these groups seem to see no value in the cards.

[@davidmorris6254]

Aged out a large percentage of people who cared about this sort of investment, nostalgia drives a lot

[@tanchwa3740]

you know what, I WILL finally buy my nm angus MacKenzie :)

[@zn74]

There is people out there that would like to get into vintage Magic, but its too expensive. The money was already made and people holding on to vintage Magic cards are now holding on to cardboard unless there is someone out there willing to spend thousands of dollars on something they will have to hold on for a long time and not easy to move.

[@erdwurmwot6807]

I like Art as well.

[@mojo906]

Can you sit down and talk more about some of your art for a video? Just how you did with Lego some time ago! :) I feel like art and these beautiful pieces are something that are heavily disconnected from "normal" people, you only know about them if you are really into the topic, I would love to hear more about them or see more of them! :)

[@doctordistracto8390]

Bro you have got to find an art storage solution that's humidity/temp controlled and no light. I think those are smart buys but any one of temp/humidity/light exposure can ruin those within your lifetime. Edit: (Yes I know museums display them, they also do so for short periods and rotate them into dark climate controlled rooms for 90%+ of their lives)

[@Tylerbremner]

If they want to get around the reserved list print snow covered untapped dual lands. Snow covered tundra. Snow covered underground sea 🤣

[@titilafolie]

I didn’t expect the ending

[@djkatsuo]

There’s no buyers for it so it’s valuable on paper but that’s about it

[@zivkobabz]

There's not even vintage tournaments in my country so most reserved list cards is useless to own for me and a lot of other people i assume. Reprints would help with turning some reserved list into 'bling' cards in countries like mine making the demand go up by a substantial amount. But i know that will never happen because of bs reasons so whatever, no vintage tournaments for us.

[@rogerbabin8175]

Sounds incredibly healthy for the game to be honest. I don't know why Rudy wouldn't like it.

[@pedrouson9529]

Sorry but 8 figures in MTG IF there is someone that wants to pay that. You know more than us about this my friend

[@AZNCIess]

I'd be ecstatic if everything goes to 0 or stays frozen for the next 10 years. Only then i'll be able to complete my (some AB hopefully)U, 4 horsemen sets and oldschool deck. given up on a house and wife but this goal seems doable :D

[@yama_yama_yama]

vintage game pieces

[@EIiteTactics]

Rudy is sweatin right now due to his leverage in Magic boxes & Reverse lists. His collapse will be one for the history books.

[@alainbelanger9852]

How do you know he’s leveraged? He’s never said this and he’s actually preached against leverage. He’s not selling any of his old stuff, so he’s not reliant on that income. Since he bought a lot of vintage years ago, his cost basis has got to be low enough that that the Rudy Vault would still yield a profit if he had to sell some stuff.

[@cyborg266]

@@alainbelanger9852 Exactly.

[@Hot_Dice]

The guy sitting next to gallery-level art is gonna lose it all right? Timmy detected.

[@XBLAxDigital]

It's only going to keep getting worse. With the new CT scanning techniques that just came out for finding foils in sealed Pokemon, it's only a matter of time before they figure out a way to identify non-foils in the packs too. We will hit record highs with sealed versions of super rare cards that have been verified by scans, but anything without gold in it will be basically worthless. The future is coming for sealed product.

[@420Pikachu]

Rudy, if youre cold they're cold. Let the cards inside this winter

[@Nicky_G85]

Hi Rudy, I hope you're fine! Keep going! Now people want free lunch for only fan and grocery shopping! I'M STILL HOLDING MY DUAL LAND! YIPICAE!

[@pat-a-rattat8094]

this reminds me of my fathers elvis collection, just not selling what is used to be worth anymore. Some of us know how big of a deal he was and the beatles are but this stuff might of just lost its collectible aspect. i personally never found myself ever ever playing these tcg but i love the art so much and people like rudy i just keep buying them like lotto tickets. Even if rudy acted like the federal reserve burns all this product its hard to know whats what. a wnew pandimic is all we need and some free money from the govt will be our only chance for that kinda bull market

[@lightworker2956]

Indeed. People who grew up with X will always think that X is inherently amazing and has a timeless and universal appeal. But then the next generation won't appreciate X nearly as much. Whether X is vintage cards or Elvis collectibles.

[@MannyMarvel]

AYO is that you Rudy ? Haven’t seen you in a minute , last time we were all going to the moon and MTG wasn’t getting dumped directly to Amazon and onto Timmy’s mom’s litter of baby Himalayan kittens ! Me? I’m chillin , you still working on that core and legs with all the heavy bags ? Diamond hands amirite ? PS, unless this market turns around we will see growing inflation til 2029 .

[@markkarlo4869]

This may be a hot take but I think, because the boom/high of Old Magic was caused by the rise of value of Bitcoin, Old Magic would be forever tied to how Bitcoin is performing.

[@TheGatorDude]

When value is based off utility, power creep spares no one. The death of the RL for me will be the free version of wheel of fortune.

[@alfredocamba1995]

We all should have gone to Pokemon with Derium We should have learned our lesson with Rudy's bathroom If evolving skies hasn't woken you up yet I can't help 151 & Crown Zenith still available

[@Belikewater21]

It’s because prices are out of reach by middle class Americans and can’t justify spending 4k on a card

[@advocatus_ravioli]

love the honesty and transparency, thanks S.S. Rudy!

[@k_hearts3954]

As a new player. There are only a few cards from the list that are powerful cards. Then we need to talk about prices that are high. I bought some still haven't bought others. I have no emotional attachment to these cards to raise the price even more. Older product like Dominaria is being bought. I assume to from mix of new and old to live in those older moment of magic. Can't really do that with the list products without breaking a arm and a leg. New products are coming out with better or equal versions of cards from the list. My 2 cents. Also how can i buy that damaged Dominaria box from you. Also i do have some cards from the list but they are like cents but look nice.

[@StrykerLee]

I'm embarrassed about my five figure investment in vintage Magic.

[@hippo1639]

I wonder if one day these videos will be used as art provenance.

[@MaximusTBH]

That green screen putting in work

[@TheDragonsleeve]

Most popular culture fandoms are eating their own tails at the moment. Pop culture collectors just need to hold tight, we've been here before many times.

[@NerdAndProudOfIt]

old mtg is doing fine. the fact that there is nothing to report is great. that means no uptick, but no heavy downtick neither! and that in itself is a good sign.

[@cyborg266]

It will return and when it does all the timmys will wish they had not been timmying.

[@NerdAndProudOfIt]

⁠patience is a virtue! 😁👊🏻

[@MikeJones-nf4ke]

Keep your grubby hands off my duels,the green horns can have all the modern reprintable cards they want

[@tombullard6167]

Could atleast spell dual correct in dualland not dueling lands