BadBoyHalo addresses Dream's grooming allegations...

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Күн бұрын

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@macknchez
@macknchez Жыл бұрын
This is why Bad is one of my favorite people on the Internet. I look up to him. He is what I strive to be, honestly. He is kind to both sides, and is reasonable and doesn't tell people to blindly follow his opinion. He's telling everyone to come to their own conclusion. I stand with Bad, and I did before I saw this. It makes me happy that he talked about this in such a way. And to those of you who disagree with Bad and whatnot, who believe the allegations, that's okay. Your opinion should be respected, just as those who are on the opposite opinion should be respected as well. Love ya, BadBoyHalo!
@Disearned
@Disearned Жыл бұрын
i agree with this. i am fine with people believing the allegations as long as they dont attack anyone (including dream) about it. however, twitter has a terrible reputation with blindly hating and harassing people with differing opinions. people on twitter are just brick walls being spoken to, who never think about the other side at any point in time. however, both sides of believing and not believing the allegations have people who attack each other but the non-believers of the allegations are more about giving facts and giving more proof than the other side. this is just going with twitter, though, since that is the only place i can watch this drama happen.
@arosbastion7052
@arosbastion7052 Жыл бұрын
No, people who are defending a pedophile should not be respected lmao.
@Keelish
@Keelish Жыл бұрын
minor
@macknchez
@macknchez Жыл бұрын
@@Keelish ?
@deerdude1
@deerdude1 5 ай бұрын
I feel the same way. Even though his type of content isn't my favorite and he doesn't upload much, he's one of, if not the most respectable content creators for me. Just like with Dream, he didn't turn against a6d as soon as he got into drama. Not because he supported his actions, but because he's a good friend.
@thatonemoonboy
@thatonemoonboy Жыл бұрын
He's always so careful and good yet clear with his words, that's one of the things that I really like about him :)
@NotASnaccImAMel
@NotASnaccImAMel Жыл бұрын
Huh?
@thatonemoonboy
@thatonemoonboy Жыл бұрын
@@NotASnaccImAMel ?
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 Жыл бұрын
​@@NotASnaccImAMel?🤨😐
@louzo5175
@louzo5175 Жыл бұрын
so true
@prinzexisalowqualityytber
@prinzexisalowqualityytber Жыл бұрын
Huh?@@NotASnaccImAMel
@wikyoOFL
@wikyoOFL Жыл бұрын
you can tell bads telling the truth, he’s usually giggly and very obvious when he lies. but this, this is pure truth.
@TommyTJ-vi2li
@TommyTJ-vi2li Жыл бұрын
I agree, the way bad explained to us hits me in a way where I just need a break.
@TommyTJ-vi2li
@TommyTJ-vi2li Жыл бұрын
@amsleepy2704 I can definitely agree that dream is a bit of a creep. But I still won't say anything until something gets "resolved".
@thefifthbean
@thefifthbean Жыл бұрын
​@@amsleepy2704 that was until his truth video came out
@thefifthbean
@thefifthbean Жыл бұрын
@@amsleepy2704 dude...u rlly wanna believe u were right this whole time so bad bro...that's honestly so sad. Even I believed the allegations until that video. To keep believing in the allegations after that is just being blind and not being able to accept when you're wrong
@thefifthbean
@thefifthbean Жыл бұрын
@amsleepy2704 he isn't known for that so idk where u even heard that. And so many people, including bad, saw the evidence before he even started working on the video. Just face it, man's was innocent and u just can't handle the fact that we've been wrong for months about him
@Mi4..
@Mi4.. Жыл бұрын
This was really shocking for me since I haven't checked social media in a while 💀 But seriously, Bad is the sweetest person I have ever met on the entire internet i swear Edit: BRO I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER THIS COMMENT WHY DOES IT HAVE 4K LIKES??? thank y'all-
@OpalLitedits
@OpalLitedits Жыл бұрын
Literally
@PPebbles0_0
@PPebbles0_0 Жыл бұрын
Fr
@avathepotato9211
@avathepotato9211 Жыл бұрын
Same. This video popped up on my recommendations and I was so confused/shocked.
@Gamergulad69
@Gamergulad69 Жыл бұрын
Yeah
@CircussCake
@CircussCake Жыл бұрын
Watch him get called out for being a groomer just bc you said that lmao
@Just_invis
@Just_invis Жыл бұрын
I really like how Bad handled the situation, how he spoke clearly and expressed his opinions. I also like how his Minecraft character moved around a lot while he was talking, cause it makes it harder for ppl to edit clips together to make it seem like he said something else, I think that’s very wise. I also agree with Bad’s opinion on this, like, accusations happen to famous ppl all the time. While some of them end up being true, from my perspective and what I’ve seen as a fan, I don’t think Dream did this. I know that it’s not impossible, but this is just my take on the situation at this time. Edited for grammar and clarity
@xtremesubber9136
@xtremesubber9136 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@Criscuitt
@Criscuitt Жыл бұрын
Dream is definitely the type to do this, he's admitted the evidence shown against him is true himself, and the fact he would send those audios regardless of who it was sent to is more than enough to believe he'd groom someone
@azuwure
@azuwure Жыл бұрын
you don't know him other than the persona he shows online so you cant say "he isn't the type"
@kittyover9000
@kittyover9000 Жыл бұрын
@@Criscuitt I heard that those were edited clips that were not true. Why would someone confirm an accusation against themselves? People don’t do that.
@Criscuitt
@Criscuitt Жыл бұрын
@@kittyover9000 That's complete bullshit as dream himself said the messages are real lmfao all he could say to defend himself was that they were sent to an adult, which was disproven the day after.
@xenonxan184
@xenonxan184 Жыл бұрын
i hate that his viewer count dropped as soon as he started saying that he had experience of both being groomed and being falsley accused of grooming
@MuffinX2
@MuffinX2 Жыл бұрын
F👏R👏
@pururinpura
@pururinpura 2 ай бұрын
bad was groomed??? that sounds sexy asf, i’d love to hear more about it
@strxnger9396
@strxnger9396 Жыл бұрын
I feel so sick about this. Just 1,5 months ago a cod cosplayer unalived himself in a livestream, bc he couldn't handle the hundreds of people falsely accousing of gr00ming. And I really hope this time it won't go that far...
@tateswhoretotallyambattakum
@tateswhoretotallyambattakum Жыл бұрын
Aye but dream did do it thats the difference 💀
@strxnger9396
@strxnger9396 Жыл бұрын
@@tateswhoretotallyambattakum Is it proven? Like officialy (I'm not really well informed)?
@Benjamslikestrains
@Benjamslikestrains Жыл бұрын
​@@strxnger9396 he's admitted to some of it (talking to them on snap albeit not inappropriately, moaning audio) but has barely addressed it otherwise. The evidence against him is also much more concrete and abundant in comparison to the cosplayer, in that situation the evidence was entirely fabricated
@strxnger9396
@strxnger9396 Жыл бұрын
@@Benjamslikestrains okay, thank you
@BomXiao
@BomXiao Жыл бұрын
If you were not well informed about that situation why you commented saying he was falsely accused? That dude confess to it and proofs were major.
@UrLocalSkittle_LOL
@UrLocalSkittle_LOL Жыл бұрын
I SAID “WHAT” OUT LOUD WHEN I SAW THE TITLE AND THE NOTIFICATION
@ayden.makaii
@ayden.makaii Жыл бұрын
I said "nonononoonononoonono please don't talk about this baddd" But when I watched it I realized that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would lmao😭
@izachi-chan2432
@izachi-chan2432 Жыл бұрын
@@ayden.makaii My god you guys are pathetic. If Bad is supportive of Dream due to evidence the public doesn't know yet, maybe, JUST MAYBE, it's best for the audience to understand his intent. Dream is innocent and anyone with a brain can tell this. Just wait for his video with his evidence, and shut up about it
@criidawg
@criidawg Жыл бұрын
its sad bc also in the vid he has dealt with issues relating to this type of stuff in his private life :( i rlly hope its not real, but that would be still bad, obv not as bad as grooming but still
@Hana__Daidaiyama_0
@Hana__Daidaiyama_0 Жыл бұрын
Same
@theskepticalmina
@theskepticalmina Жыл бұрын
SAME
@yupinaa
@yupinaa Жыл бұрын
I followed Bad before Dream and never stopped liking bad. I'm glad hes still a nice guy that just cares about everybody around him
@dxqth
@dxqth Жыл бұрын
same!
@OffbrandBBH
@OffbrandBBH Жыл бұрын
This is the sweetest man alive. He carefully words everything so well and I swear- this dude had some amazing guts to put up with all these issues. I look up to this man :>
@shulkonskyblockrwooosh3313
@shulkonskyblockrwooosh3313 6 ай бұрын
fr
@Brxk3n_Lxf3
@Brxk3n_Lxf3 Жыл бұрын
In my own opinion ever since Dream did a face reveal things have just went out of control, first people hated how he looked as if he can pick his own face when he was born or something. Then the girl who came out to accuse dream is grooming which her proof was literally them having friendly conversation and the fact that she even said she will be taking legal actions and would be sending more proof which she never did either. Dream has said that some people have tried to dm him in weeks before their 18 which is crazy. Like the fact people have tried to make him seem like a real pedophile is just insane the world right now is just crazy and i feel like so many people need to get a grib on real life instead of making innocent people's lives miserable and doing nothing wrong, even if someone is cringy or just straight up weird it doesn't make it right to make someone's live hell and so many people have taken their own lives because of this. I believe that Dream is innocent as this was never a thing before he revealed his face even on twitter the "proof" that was shown could have been false i mean on snapchat you can edit your avatar and you can edit your friends names so it must have been fake because how the hell is that proof when anyone could be pretending to be Dream they only showed like pics of the person who sent stuff but didnt show the official account of Dream (which was very odd to me) i feel that people make a lot of problems with people who has popularity and fame in social media and Dream isnt the forst person to be falsely accused.. (My own opinion and how i view on this. Any grammar mistakes i apologize for that)
@Brxk3n_Lxf3
@Brxk3n_Lxf3 Жыл бұрын
@@IC_CI and he's not even the first victim to cyber bulling, many other youtubers, tik tokers, celebrities and so on go through this and that makes it worse to the fact that it continues to this day
@Kirrori_
@Kirrori_ Жыл бұрын
@@IC_CI*plays mad world ♪*
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHs
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHs Жыл бұрын
There was also the snapchats of him moaning with explicit texts but idk if it was real
@tsukeyi
@tsukeyi Жыл бұрын
`And what of the new moaning audios which he confirmed was him? still believe he's innocent?
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHs
@AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHs Жыл бұрын
@@tsukeyi oh damn he confirmed those? dream is not helping his case
@ferntheinkling
@ferntheinkling Жыл бұрын
I’ve never been a dream fan and never really watched him but it always bothered me to see how much hate he got for little reason. I remember after his face reveal how toxic people were towards his appearance. Saying he’s ugly because he looks like an average white guy is not cool… like wtf, what were you expecting?! I am American and I believe that people are innocent until proven guilty. Until I see evidence of him gr00ming I will maintain the belief that he’s not. Once again I don’t care about the guy that much, but goddamn why can’t people just treat him like a human being? 💀
@Vee_breeze2767
@Vee_breeze2767 Жыл бұрын
You are amazing for saying that. I’m the same as you, innocent until proven guilty. I wish everyone would stop jumping to conclusions
@Vembie
@Vembie Жыл бұрын
This is like what the 30th time somebody has said "dream groomed me" ? This is just so insane how this keeps happening@@Vee_breeze2767
@elainebsfr
@elainebsfr Жыл бұрын
Whomp whomp, dream has still done nasty things and y'all ignore it
@ferntheinkling
@ferntheinkling Жыл бұрын
@@elainebsfr doesn’t really affect me since I’m not a fan nor have I ever interacted with him so I’m not about to spread misinformation, and I don’t care to educate myself because honestly I don’t have the time for that and don’t really care
@Vee_breeze2767
@Vee_breeze2767 Жыл бұрын
@elainebsfr We've all done things most likely worst than his. People just love picking on him and the guy doesn't deserve it
@randompersonontheinternet1435
@randompersonontheinternet1435 Жыл бұрын
Bad is the one person out there who I’d believe on this issue. I don’t have Twitter but I have seen screenshots of Dream’s tweets in other videos, and he gives very long arguments about why he’s innocent (which I think is some of the problem. He should really just stop responding, especially in massive chunks of text.) Based on the somewhat flimsy evidence that he’s guilty and the mostly decent evidence that he’s innocent, I really don’t think he did what he’s being accused of. Screenshots and even voice recordings are fairly easy to fake and he’s already so hated for the cheating thing- it’d be so easy for people that already hate him to jump onto this.
@psyduck2250
@psyduck2250 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on this. I think the hate he’s been getting ever since the face reveal made some people put out “evidence” against him. But from the evidence I’ve seen so far, there’s something off about them - some of the evidence don’t seem like enough proof showing that it was Dream who said those some things. I feel like some teenagers also fooled Dream into thinking they are an adult if those weird conversations were actually exchanged. I don’t know anymore, if more people comes out with actual evidence with nothing missing such as showing a video of clicking on Dreams name in the text messages to show that it was him KNOWINGLY texting a minor inappropriately where other people cannot contradict it, then I’d believe it, but I haven’t seen such a thing yet. The evidence shown so far doesn’t seem like they are legitimate - showing screen shots without proving it was Dream in those screenshots doesn’t seem like evidence.
@randompersonontheinternet1435
@randompersonontheinternet1435 Жыл бұрын
@@psyduck2250 yeah, and screenshots are very easily faked. I have yet to see any solid evidence against him. The internet has this “guilty until proven innocent” mindset and it’s damaging.
@Coolskeleton2030
@Coolskeleton2030 Жыл бұрын
the funny thing its that dream responds with even larger texts to not important things lmao
@babycakelings
@babycakelings Жыл бұрын
@@randompersonontheinternet1435 I mean, they have a very convincing voice clip now that Dream referred to as "revenge porn" and never called fake. Which if he does mean it is fake, is a huge fuck up on his part.
@panonymousbloom5405
@panonymousbloom5405 Жыл бұрын
​@@babycakelingsi don't know much about this case, but I'm pretty sure he claimed to send it to someone else - an adult - not that he didn't send it at all. Idk, I'm kind of biased since there have been false allegations towards him that blew up before.
@Angel-yf7br
@Angel-yf7br Жыл бұрын
Bad really knows his way onto words, he sounds so genuine when saying these, i will love him forever
@emolookingguy8277
@emolookingguy8277 Жыл бұрын
I saw ppl on twitter trying to drop bbh and convince others to drop him for "supporting a groomer" and this was the one time i ever posted on Twitter. I replied to them thinking they didn't see this clip and tried to clarify "he doesn't think he's supporting a groomer. He believes he is supporting a victim of false grooming accusations. If thats true or not we'll find out eventually, but bbh has said he will drop dream if he genuinely believes he is not innocent. But for now he is standing by his friend bc he has knowledge we don't know of (yet). If that knowledge turns out to not be true, bbh will stop supporting him." And they told me i was meat riding a groomer and blocked me 💀
@Coolskeleton2030
@Coolskeleton2030 Жыл бұрын
twitter☕
@TehRandomDolphin
@TehRandomDolphin Жыл бұрын
twitter☕️ (as a wise man once said, twitter is the only place where well articulated sentences still get misinterpreted.)
@TheOneAndOnlyEuca
@TheOneAndOnlyEuca Жыл бұрын
What the hell do you expect from Twitter anyways? Let alone users who can’t make an argument against you, better to just leave ‘em alone to suffer in their inevitable brain rot
@SunNekoChan
@SunNekoChan Жыл бұрын
Twitter is just something else. Not worth even talking with people in there, they have peas for brains.
@HyperBlast9000
@HyperBlast9000 Жыл бұрын
Welp, Bad Was Correct, Good on him
@milesaphobic
@milesaphobic Жыл бұрын
I don’t really believe Dream in what’s going on, but I admire how Bad handled the situation he expressed his opinions, however, also did not shame people for being on the other side of everything.
@Isokka.
@Isokka. Жыл бұрын
Bro, twitter been tryna cancel Dream for false "grooming" since the day he revealed his face 💀
@Emixd-wx8zx
@Emixd-wx8zx Жыл бұрын
​@@Isokka.Really? (Srry i don't have Twitter)
@iamagirl9938
@iamagirl9938 Жыл бұрын
@@Emixd-wx8zx Basically.
@EgoCodm
@EgoCodm Жыл бұрын
So based of what you said , you've already formed a conclusion with “evidence” that doesn't conclusively state the the acussed actions were done…? gosh the internet is very guilible .
@milesaphobic
@milesaphobic Жыл бұрын
@@EgoCodm girl idk I forgot all abt this conversation 💀
@MrKneeBeeYT
@MrKneeBeeYT Жыл бұрын
I like how all of this happened RIGHT after he un-masked. seems a little sus.
@Southparkfan598
@Southparkfan598 Жыл бұрын
I mean, it is a good clout chase ig, falsely accuse someone when they're trending...
@silverhowl9331
@silverhowl9331 Жыл бұрын
Yeaaahh I dont like dream but I will never believe he's a groomer until further proof is brought to light, you cannot and I mean CANNOT take these allegations lightly, they are serious and I absolutely hate it when grooming allegations come out with 0 viable proof, I am losing faith in humanity atp.
@Unavoidable3-b3v
@Unavoidable3-b3v Жыл бұрын
He did send whimper audios to a minor tho
@chloelam-hong1938
@chloelam-hong1938 Жыл бұрын
@@Unavoidable3-b3vI hope I don’t come off as supporting Dream. I used to be a fan, though lost respect a year prior. However, I will say those audio could be from anyone, including the username. In addition, if Dream was supposedly 20 at the time, was his snapchat “Dream Dream” from 2019-2020? Since the information has not been given, I feel it’s best to remain neutral. The situation is all over the place and I would not be so quick to conclude. I hope I don’t come off as trying to get you to react a certain way.
@Naitsirch
@Naitsirch Жыл бұрын
@@Unavoidable3-b3v people can be so dumb, this kind of feels like the kwite situation where he is getting attacked with no actual evidence
@Danielfury_wolves
@Danielfury_wolves Жыл бұрын
​@@chloelam-hong1938those who he it was just faking whole time try to manipulated us, also dream doesn't do such a thing like that why wouldn't he do the audio and acting like groomer as you call him disgusting
@banewhyse
@banewhyse Жыл бұрын
​@@chloelam-hong1938Dream Dream was his snapchat user before. so. i don't know when i saw it, but i used to be a fan & found out he had snap & added him (wasnt added back or anything ofc). it was Dream Dream.
@opaltoralien4015
@opaltoralien4015 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how well BBH handles any drama thrown in his or his friends directions. It is especially important on this topic. The allegations here are severe, but it is essential not to blindly believe either the alleged victim or the alleged perpetrator, because sometimes people lie. The internet was sent REELING when content creator Kwite systematically dismantled all of Orion's false allegations against him, many so-called defenders of justice feeling horribly guilty when they realized they attacked and ruined an innocent man's reputation based on the lies of an abuser. We don't have all the information, so I don't feel comfortable calling Dream guilty or innocent until then. Kwite had amazing advice for that: when accusations like this come forward, treat the alleged victim with sympathy, respect and support, but don't believe every word blindly, and don't attack the accused without bulletproof evidence of guilt. We aren't heroes, there is no dragon to defeat, cancel culture doesn't have a place in these matters.
@MangledEmotion
@MangledEmotion Жыл бұрын
Bad is so real for this
@SabrinaDzDz
@SabrinaDzDz Жыл бұрын
i completely get how hard it is for him and i went through the same situation with someone i considered as my best friend. so pls ppl go easy on him he's a kind and sweet soul and trying to do the right thing, i just hope he can eventually move on from that toxic "friendship"
@mr_blank4413
@mr_blank4413 Жыл бұрын
Honesty is an incredibly rare thing for a youtuber to have. I'm glad badboyhalo spoke out on this in a serious and understanding way.
@cheese-and-ricemooney7487
@cheese-and-ricemooney7487 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don't believe Dream is a groomer. There is a LOT to say about those accusations and what makes me think he's not, but like Bad I don't think Dream is lying. Those accusations happens a lot to begin with about any popular person, when they reach the peak of popularity they always get accused of grooming, mental/physical abuse or rape. Of course I'm not saying itself not impossible, but given how people always aim at popular people with those random accusations EXACTLY at the moment someone reach a peak point of popularity those allegations started more or less around the time Dream did a face reveal which feels suspicious to me. Look at Kwite for example. He started to get a lot popular and around that time his ex boyfriend (I think they were in a relationship I can't be too sure with that, it's been a while since I watched the video, either way they were close enough to make Kwite take photos together) and used a lot of accusations which were all false (also a little head up, twit and Instagram texts can be falsified in a realistic way without even making the photoshop visible because there's no photoshop, there's also a Instagram "glitch" that allow you to write a text to someone and make it look they sent it to you, so you can make it look like a celebrity or whatever texted you (a guy who does videos all about that kind of things showed that trick) so personally unless ACTUALLY proven otherwise I won't 100% doubt the victim because it is a serious topic but I also can't believe them and believe Dream a bit more but of course until the truth is 100% confirmed while I lean more the believing Dream because the timing of the accusations are a bit too perfect but I'm still not sure with Dream or the presumed victims words yet.
@fishystuff3
@fishystuff3 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. When Jaiden Animations came out as aroace(aromantic and asexual), people started grooming allegations about her 😐
@Dragonlover03
@Dragonlover03 Жыл бұрын
In my personal opinion, I’d more so believe the allegations just because of how many of dreams friends have distanced themselves from him as a result of the allegations and because unlike with Kwite, Dream has made no effort to disprove them besides complaining about them, and it’s been months.
@rose_blue1
@rose_blue1 Жыл бұрын
Dream did a face reveal because georgenotfound was moving to Florida
@shinkinshin001119
@shinkinshin001119 Жыл бұрын
​@@Dragonlover03 In one of his recent stream(?), it's because of his lawyer saying to just shut up, and to wait for the accuser to come out with more things, that would be easier to disprove later on. The typical tactics is to let the other party speak more than they should. Same with Kwite, he didn't really immediately say "no, I'm not this, and here's all the evidence I don't have since I just got the news." Something Dream did, which was incredibly stupid of him and to call the person making allegations an idiot and whoever that believed it as well (when he had zero evidence to back that up, at the time.) Dream distancing from others is from what I understand, other people doing their own projects and Dream doing his shows, albeit I don't know them personally if they had personal conflicts, just based out of the other KZbinr friends.
@irisnottheeye
@irisnottheeye Жыл бұрын
@@shinkinshin001119the problem is that there's proof of dream making jokes that sexualize his old friends that were minors at the time (especially tommy, happened with tubbo's sister who was 13 at the time aswell) and each time they had either expressed their discomfort or could clearly be seen being uncomfortable. dream had also made jokes of shipping tommy of wilbur together, which both were uncomfortable with.
@pennytovell4177
@pennytovell4177 7 ай бұрын
Bad is an incredible person. I don't know him irl but I watch his streams daily, and I trust bad completely. He's genuine, he's teal, has a heart of gold. He encouraging words of quitting smoking. I respect him completely
@WeLoveVal
@WeLoveVal Жыл бұрын
I feel like Im listening the fun teacher talking about a serious topic😭
@Little_Boo-lb4hi
@Little_Boo-lb4hi Жыл бұрын
He took a course or went to college to be a substitute teacher if I'm not mistaken. So that's exactly what you're seeing lol
@justlivinglife5609
@justlivinglife5609 11 ай бұрын
After watching Dream’s response video, I am convinced that he is innocent And haters gonna hate hate hate hate hate
@--star
@--star Жыл бұрын
Bad is the absolute sweetest person alive. Its crazy to think that anyone could say they were gr00med and twitter would believe it because they dont like dream. These are the same people who accused BADBOYHALO of grooming and tried canceling dream for saying the word "munchkin". And then they get mad saying we're "supporting a groomer" when we dont automatically assume that dream is the worst person in existance Be so fr 😭
@rezegf
@rezegf Жыл бұрын
there's literally so much evidence dream is a groomer..
@--star
@--star 10 ай бұрын
@@rezegf how you feeling now??
@Channie1my4beloved3
@Channie1my4beloved3 10 ай бұрын
@@rezegfAin’t no actual way you believin this shi😂😂😂 It must be a coincidence that all of this happens after his face reveal
@josephinesomers1150
@josephinesomers1150 Жыл бұрын
the fact that bads view count went from 24 something (not sure if theres more that got cut off) went down to 17 something to 5 and then 3 something and finally 1 something as he was speaking about this was sad
@criidawg
@criidawg 9 ай бұрын
thats vile
@josephinesomers1150
@josephinesomers1150 9 ай бұрын
@@criidawg I know. it's horrible that people just dropped out cause bad was speaking his thoughts on the matter
@Unsettledcentipede
@Unsettledcentipede Жыл бұрын
Bad is literally such a sweetie, personally I am not a fan of dream, I don't dislike him I just don't have any opinion really
@supremegamer4717
@supremegamer4717 Жыл бұрын
I know Bad trusts him, but something inside me tells me not to. Just the way some cc's have gone from defending him to literally shitting on him, it just cant be a coincidence. Something, grooming or otherwise, has happend behind the scenes that ccs are not for whatever reason sharing. Could be nda or just not wanting to be sued. Im just saying, if nothing happend that involved Dream, their opinions of the guy would not have changed as drastically as they did after Dsmp ended.
@supremegamer4717
@supremegamer4717 Жыл бұрын
By the way, feel free to argue but odds are I will never even see it😅
@alywayart
@alywayart Жыл бұрын
i suspect that when joining the smp, dream made people sign ndas and now that the smp is done, those ndas have expired. i have zero proof of this though, this is just my idea
@necromancer1436
@necromancer1436 Жыл бұрын
I think since dream cheated in a speedrun, people don't trust what he says for other stuff which is probably what caused their opinions to drastically change. Kind of like a boy who cried wolf moment. I personally believe that unless there's proof of something this serious, I'm going to assume the accused is innocent. (and in the case of dream, there's no proof of him grooming, just someone accusing him and a short, easily faked clip of him moaning.)
@bertieedfy616
@bertieedfy616 Жыл бұрын
@@alywayarthi:) i just wanted to let you know dream has stated multiple times there were never any contracts in between any members of the dsmp, not with money, not with ndas. just wanted to let you know!:)
@alywayart
@alywayart Жыл бұрын
@@bertieedfy616 can i have sources on this? links to tweets and such? i just wanna be completely sure, you can’t just believe strangers on the internet ya know? lol :P
@鬼滅義勇-v8c
@鬼滅義勇-v8c 9 ай бұрын
Bad was the first one I saw on the internet that tell us to think by our self😭😭😭
@helecholeaf
@helecholeaf Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ I got out of the mcyt community 2 years ago, what did I miss Edit: LMAO DREAM IS BEEFING WITH GUMBALL WHATERSON AND SOMEHOW LOSING
@masochistz
@masochistz Жыл бұрын
A LOT 😭
@marie-zb5bh
@marie-zb5bh Жыл бұрын
Bro same. Just checked back in recently and wtf. If you want a more lighthearted update go watch Tommy refusing to divorce tubbo. They’re legally married now so that happened.
@shadicy
@shadicy Жыл бұрын
what with gumball 😭🙏
@Calia.is.taken0
@Calia.is.taken0 Жыл бұрын
I was actually shocked when I saw people taking gumball's side 😭✨️
@evi4th
@evi4th Жыл бұрын
​@@Calia.is.taken0look dawg im not gonna take sides on that drama but dream stans where so quick to defend dream not making a response to the allegations w mental illness but as soon as gumballs va might've demonstrated signs of mental illness they mf attacked him online like crazy
@luvwsl
@luvwsl Жыл бұрын
I do not think dream is a groomer but his ego and personality online made him so hated that people will believe anything to hate him
@--connor.5745
@--connor.5745 Жыл бұрын
there is hard evidence
@ShadowGladiatorX
@ShadowGladiatorX Жыл бұрын
​@@--connor.5745evidence that will last in court
@luvwsl
@luvwsl Жыл бұрын
@@--connor.5745 not really the messages got debunked and the moan1ng sound doesn’t sound like him but this isn’t me saying he’s not but even without evidence people still hate him
@--connor.5745
@--connor.5745 Жыл бұрын
@@luvwsl he said the whimpering audios are him. these damn dream stans☠️
@luvwsl
@luvwsl Жыл бұрын
@@--connor.5745 i dont watch dream or follow him anywhere so i didn’t hear about that :)
@WillowRikafumi-xm6he
@WillowRikafumi-xm6he Жыл бұрын
His words are so pure, I cried. This is why I love bbh.
@samcovert
@samcovert Жыл бұрын
at this point, one of the people i can trust on truth is bad. bad is genuine and sweet, its nice that he's not telling us to totally believe him or listen to his words and take it as that, just something that he'll point and where he stands. he didnt say that dream is anything as the allegations have said, but he did say he will never ever support anyone that hes aware that has done those wrong things. i think people shouldnt drag people like bad down, just because he's close to dream and has known dream for a long time so OF COURSE hhe knows. we're not even sure he knows what's going on. and id like to believe he prefers not to join the fire, and prefers to remain ignorant. even if he knows, i doubt he'd tell us, but if the worse situation has become the truth and he knows, he'd stay true to his word and would not support anyone who would do wrong. he considers dream as his friend and could support him as friends, but will never support him in any other possible things dream has donee. cuz in the end, despite the clues, allegations, we have no idea what has been going on. and i doubt its our business either.
@tablynn5274
@tablynn5274 Жыл бұрын
Why is he so nice?! He could never hurt a thing, his words get across very clear and he took this topic very serious and spoke his mind!
@Khhaos
@Khhaos 11 ай бұрын
“Bbh is the person I’d go to for like life advice” I agree so much
@Giebachii
@Giebachii Жыл бұрын
Honestly Bad's stance on this is similar to mine. Innocent until proven guilty. I feel there's no point in going to hate on someone for what is essentially allegations. Reminds me of how a group of people I was friends with for about a week switched up on me, insulted me, told me to apologize (even though I didn't do anything) and kicked me from their gc because I said I wasn't taking sides in the Dream pedo allegations cause I only knew about a few screenshots and those can be faked easily these days.
@honoyu4
@honoyu4 Жыл бұрын
I love him fr, he's so sweet and clear. He's kind to BOTH sides, and I absolutely love him for that.
@ivarozan2118
@ivarozan2118 Жыл бұрын
While I don’t know if he’s a groomer or not, texts are so easy to fake since I’m pretty sure that’s what the allegations were that he was texting underaged girls? But there is no denying he has said inappropriate things about minors in the past which is not a good look when most of your fan base is underaged
@yourlocaldeadperson_
@yourlocaldeadperson_ Жыл бұрын
the main reason that i don’t think Dream is actually a groomer is because all these allegations came out after he face revealed. i understand its an incredibly sensitive and delicate matter and much like BadBoyHalo talks about in this video, i will support people that i believe are innocent, in this case Dream. Obviously anyone is allowed to have their own opinions on the matter, its only human to be skeptical and weary especially in cases as important as these. Its really important to know every piece of CONCRETE information before speaking about it and sharing opinions, as long as we all do it in a respectful manner. I truly hope everyone is okay, regardless on your stance in the matter and that you all find yourself in a safe and loving environment.
@rezegf
@rezegf Жыл бұрын
amanda (one of dreams victims) came out about this in 2021, but deleted her tweets due to hate - and there's still stacks of evidence, even if there are people coming out now. you don't get how hard it is to actually speak up about being groomed, ESPECIALLY by someone who is a big content creator.
@rezegf
@rezegf Жыл бұрын
there's so much evidence and so many victims, pleaseeee open your fucking eyes.
@NikolasNikoKit
@NikolasNikoKit Жыл бұрын
The numbers dropping is CRAZY
@ShelbyLikesStuff
@ShelbyLikesStuff Жыл бұрын
Bad was my proper introduction to the new (not very new but ehh) minecraft community and though I don’t watch him at all anymore I still have mad respect for him, unless he’s confirmed to be an absolute horrid person (which will most likely never happen, I firmly believe this guy is a good person) that respect I have for him won’t go away, if I hadn’t watched his videos a few years ago I wouldn’t have realised my identity or realised things about myself. The way he spoke about this issue is respectful (from what I can tell, I can’t read tone well) and it’s just… this issue has gotten so (sorry for this, I’ve tried to avoid using these words) f7cking chaotic. Also I wanna say I’m almost completely neutral (more on the bad side but mainly neutral) on this topic, just wanted to say that so people know what I mean when I talk.
@pastelwasteland1204
@pastelwasteland1204 Жыл бұрын
Bad’s been friends with him for YEARS, of course he isn’t going to immediately drop their friendship over this. I hate that Twitter branded this as him trying to cover up for the allegations.
@Eoriss
@Eoriss Жыл бұрын
also the main issue is that Dream is interacting with fans too much in DMs, which isn't really a smart thing to do when you are a big creator especially with the subs and recognition that dream has.
@x_rouxi_ian_x4804
@x_rouxi_ian_x4804 Жыл бұрын
The issue is he interacted when he was just a new creator. It happened way back when he was under 100 subscriber. Now he has his team manage his accounts which is why there no new allegations, these were way back.
@AngL70
@AngL70 Жыл бұрын
I stopped watching this Minecraft cc group two years ago (because I have gown more mature and also getting increasingly busy as years passed) and had only came across the news by chance, but I have always respected bbh for his wisdom and his honesty. And I believe him, as he is genuine to his fans and he is not afraid to speak out and make a point. He is probably the greatest positive influence I could have asked for when I was a premature teenager, and I am extremely thankful for that. I also need to express my gratitude to you, Kyng, if you see this comment, for making this video. I feel like I could find peace again in his voice.
@LenGalaxia
@LenGalaxia Жыл бұрын
I’ve argued for some time that BBH is the best dream team member for his personality and his care. He is just an amazing person who takes great care in how he is as a person. Great guy.
@Komet_Kat
@Komet_Kat 8 ай бұрын
this is one of the reasons i look up to Bad- he's an amazing individual who i personally relate to a bit. he explains very clearly his opinion but doesnt act as if he *is* right- he's giving the benefit of the doubt to both sides. i personally have never believed Dream's allegations and have been a fan of his for a couple years, and its absolutely disgusting that people accuse him of grooming just because they dont like him- that type of stuff can ruin people's entire career and it shouldnt be a topic people just play with. I respect Bad and this makes me respect him even more because he makes it clear that he will *never* support someone he believes is a groomer no matter how long he's known them and no matter who they are. and if they turn out not to be a groomer, he wont just hate them, he'll understand he was wrong and move on. Bad is a really good person and its sad that he has to even address this kind of stuff at all
@crossanddream2
@crossanddream2 Жыл бұрын
Its so sad dream is being put through this, first people complained that dream didn't like the way they wanted and now this? 🤦 And theres no actual proof! Without any solid evidence im not believing the accusations. I really hope this gets cleared up, its pathetic that people are trying this hard to attack dream after he did a face reveal, something they wanted and many tried pressuring him into doing. Its just absolutely ridiculous and disgusting, its truly terrifying seeing people like this. And it just makes it harder for actual victims to be able to speak up since there are these "victims" doing this stuff.... Its sad just how pathetic people can be and how low there willing to go to attack someone who has literally done nothing to them. There is truly no hope for humanity at this rate Edit: also i actually have experienced something similar, so i truly am so sorry for those who experienced that or something similar. You didn't deserve that and know you aren't alone! No matter what people tell you, remember that it wasn't your fault and no one should be blaming you for it. I truly hope that your safe and doing okay ❤️
@rezegf
@rezegf Жыл бұрын
there is evidence, y'all js won't fucking open ur eyes and read it
@kore.7313
@kore.7313 Жыл бұрын
theres been evidence since 2021. there is actual proof. get a fucking grip and do ACTUAL research. you say this makes it harder for actual victims to speak up, and yet when they do speak up they get silenced because that persons famous which means surely they cant do anything wrong
@objectivelylonely3606
@objectivelylonely3606 Жыл бұрын
@@rezegf Or most of its fake and just doesnt make sense? Honestly stfu man
@Izu_Afton1483
@Izu_Afton1483 Жыл бұрын
I'm happy with how Bad delt with this. I personally believe Dream. If you don't thats fine, but if you're going to make disgusting posts about how you think Dream is a piece of shit, then I will attack your opinion. Have your opinions, but don't go telling others they can't have their opinions and thoughts and call people who believe him assholes. Bad is being super mature about this, as expected he's a sweetheart.
@Khhaos
@Khhaos 11 ай бұрын
We owe both an apology and a thank you to you Bad I’m so sorry you have to go through this stuff Thank you for sticking up for what you (and I) believe is right
@Sammy_The_Umbreon
@Sammy_The_Umbreon Жыл бұрын
Honestly, at this point, I dont know who to believe anymore. Both sides have shown to be untrustworthy. The accusers moreso than the accused, but being accused in the first place puts Dream into question anyways. It's just that at this point I dont even wanna bother with the situation anymore. And that's not good.
@Will0w-tree
@Will0w-tree Жыл бұрын
Recently a KZbinr by the name of TechnoInIt released a video containing clips taken from streams that give examples of Dream making and slightly creepy/ weird comments about some people who are underage. I respect Bad since he seems like a kind and genuine person, but I like something’s going on with Dream.
@lumini3172
@lumini3172 Жыл бұрын
I’d just like to point out that making weird remarks does not make you a pedophile. I am severely socially awkward and when I try to fit in I often stumble over myself and make myself look like a freak. When I was 17, some of my friends started using some dark humor at times. After a few weeks, I wanted to try and fit in with them as I felt left out when they would make jokes and laugh and I would have no idea about what was so funny. Well, when I started trying to make such jokes myself, I just ended up sounding weird and creepy. Luckily my friends knew me well and that I was just struggling to fit in, and eventually I grew out of that phase and stopped trying to mimic their humor. It just wasn’t for me lol. Not to say that it’s acceptable for Dream as an adult to be saying such things but as far as I know, he stopped making such remarks and jokes (maybe I’m wrong?) and again, it doesn’t make him a pedophile or a groomer in itself.
@Will0w-tree
@Will0w-tree Жыл бұрын
@@lumini3172 I agree, but these jokes were more sexual and I should've specified. You'll see what I mean in the video, but he made jokes about minors in weird inappropriate ways. I understand it just being awkwardness, but it still seems odd. Also I hope he stopped making these kind of remarks but overall idk. Thank you though!
@lumini3172
@lumini3172 Жыл бұрын
@@Will0w-tree That is true. It was definitely in very, very poor taste on his part. I don’t watch his videos so I could be wrong but as far as I know, he hasn’t made such jokes or remarks since. I feel like people would’ve brought it up if he still was so hopefully he’s grown out of it. My main point was that it wasn’t exactly evidence that he’s a groomer/pedophile, just that he had very bad humor choices.
@Will0w-tree
@Will0w-tree Жыл бұрын
@@lumini3172 Gotcha! Also random, but thank you for coming at this in a respectful manner. It's scary posting opinions on the internet but refreshing when you're able to talk about stuff with other people without it becoming hostile. Stay safe out there!
@potatoisalwayshere
@potatoisalwayshere Жыл бұрын
Omg civil and respectful conversation, so rare these days, props to both of you!
@egghaverr
@egghaverr Жыл бұрын
havent heard about this because i live underground
@ofentseisntavailable6764
@ofentseisntavailable6764 Жыл бұрын
It's just a Twitter thing they cut a vod of dream like out of context
@brize3452
@brize3452 Жыл бұрын
@@ofentseisntavailable6764glad I’m not on Twitter anymore
@jonahmoss578
@jonahmoss578 Жыл бұрын
I’ve looked at so much of the “evidence” and none of it’s real evidence. Its all screenshots that cant be proven to be real and audio clips that sound nothing like him. He isn’t good at handling situations like these though. Its sad to see. If it is actually proven with REAL EVIDENCE then i will join the dream hate train. But until then he is innocent.
@--connor.5745
@--connor.5745 Жыл бұрын
he himself had admitted that the whimper audios were him, addressing it as “revenge porn”.
@Benjamslikestrains
@Benjamslikestrains Жыл бұрын
​​@@--connor.5745 he said unsubstantiated, and on his private twitter he said he sent it to his of age ex who leaked it. I don't know if that's true or not but just to clarify he didn't admit to being a groomer lol
@--connor.5745
@--connor.5745 Жыл бұрын
@@Benjamslikestrains there is hard evidence tho? thats not the only thing proving it, but obviously he won’t admit to anything and will continue to dig his grave. also he shouldn’t explain allat, because according to him „it doesn’t matter if she was 18 or not”.
@lulufool
@lulufool Жыл бұрын
@@--connor.5745hard evidence of what? Coz the “evidence” that’s out there is a black screen with a voice or a video of an app, there’s no substantial proof of him being a groomer, and for the out of context clip that you’re mentioning he said “nothing abnormal or sexual happen on the chat, so in that case it doesn’t matter if she’s 18 or 17 and a half, cause nothing happen, it’s a messaging platform” maybe stop spewing bullshit. As for the audio, he has mention prior to this that his ex was abusive, the person that came out with those audios are friends with his ex and have been recorded to have done this in the past :)
@mr.games5883
@mr.games5883 Жыл бұрын
@@--connor.5745 taking what he said out of context. The age doesn’t matter because he never did anything to the person in question. And dawg, none of it is “hard’ evidence, and it wouldn’t, and never will hold up in a court of law.
@unresponsiblechild15
@unresponsiblechild15 10 ай бұрын
I hate People who maken fake allegations you get nothing but more drama.
@rose_blue1
@rose_blue1 9 ай бұрын
True
@Dragonmongamer
@Dragonmongamer Жыл бұрын
Honestly I have no idea what to think of this situation at all. It’s all over the place and I have no idea who or what to believe. I feel like I can’t even trust myself.
@mrsurge4789
@mrsurge4789 Жыл бұрын
Bad is way too forgiving. I understand he’s known Dream for over a decade, but if the allegations turn out to be true I’m hoping he realises the kind of person Dream really is
@XjIVy
@XjIVy Жыл бұрын
he doesn't believe in Dream bc he known him for a long time just like he said in the video he genuinely believes in what he thinks so if for him Dream was really a groomer he would have left him with no seconds thoughts.
@EgoCodm
@EgoCodm Жыл бұрын
And what kind of person is he if it turns out nothing that was said in regards to the grooming allegations were true… what kind of person will he be then?
@Solaststars
@Solaststars Жыл бұрын
It's not because he's know him for so long but because he genuinely believes that these might not be true and honestly he's not even saying they aren't, he's made it clear that that what he THINKS and that he doesn't have much info on it
@bruhbrubru
@bruhbrubru Жыл бұрын
Idk if this counts for anything but he himself said he has been informed about the situation including any data that revolves dream “texting to minors” first hand from dream so I think he knows what’s up. Like I don’t think he’d still be defending him if dream in fact admitted he was a groomer bts.
@lifeisabitch_
@lifeisabitch_ Жыл бұрын
​@@Solaststars but he said "i'm in a position where i have a lot of information that the community doesn't"
@Peeeeencil
@Peeeeencil Жыл бұрын
I don’t like dream that much. But he genuinely doesn’t deserve the hate he gets.
@chelscass22
@chelscass22 Жыл бұрын
many people are coming out on being groomed by dream and he isn't really speaking about it. He's not being serious and he's said that he was going to make an explanation video about the allegations for over a year now.
@randomaccount9824
@randomaccount9824 Жыл бұрын
@@chelscass22he didn’t say he was going to take action for a year, he was going to sue but than Amanda said she was going to sue, so he waited for her to start the legal actions so he could counter sue but she never did. Than he streamed saying he was going to make a video, but the other allegations came out
@northsign
@northsign Жыл бұрын
At this point he’s like the internet’s punching bag
@rezegf
@rezegf Жыл бұрын
yes he does !! he's a groomer, racist, n sm more !!!!! he deserves every last bit of hate he's getting
@rezegf
@rezegf Жыл бұрын
​@@chelscass22ur like the only person I've seen so far saying something about the evidence and how many people r speaking up omg ily
@meldoon1397
@meldoon1397 Жыл бұрын
Bad is such a sweetheart and I love the way he words things and hes always so nice. I personally dont think Dream is innocent, from where I stand I believe that Dream is very much not in the clear but im glad Bad could voice his opinion and to be honest his dialogue about this situation makes me like Bad as a person even more. ❤ But i dont believe Dream
@EmmyKB
@EmmyKB Жыл бұрын
I agree with ur opinion and I’m also saying he (dream) is innocent
@meldoon1397
@meldoon1397 Жыл бұрын
@@EmmyKB oh i dont believe hes innocent. but i do respect your opinion. tbh i could be wrong but idk 🤷‍♀️
@EmmyKB
@EmmyKB Жыл бұрын
@@meldoon1397 ya who knows
@socksdosestuff
@socksdosestuff Жыл бұрын
i dont know if its just me but it sounds like bad got groomed himself...i could be wrong but he kept saying he would never support groomers for a personal reasons...maybe im wrong but it already sounds like he had a bad childhood witch makes kids/teens easier to groom, miniplate, ect- he's such a sweetheart i cant imagen how he feels knowing his friends getting blamed for grooming i personally believe dream and bad- bad seems to know what he's talking about and it just seems out of character for dream :(
@criidawg
@criidawg Жыл бұрын
i thought that maybe also happened too but maybe we shouldn't jump to conclusions :(
@socksdosestuff
@socksdosestuff Жыл бұрын
@@criidawg yeah id never do that but it kinda sounds like it id never like tell people as a matter of fact but id feel bad for him if that did happen :(
@criidawg
@criidawg Жыл бұрын
:( @@socksdosestuff
@appa9486
@appa9486 Жыл бұрын
U didn’t need to point it out honestly if he wanted it talked about he wouldn’ve talked about it, I’m not being rude or anything..
@socksdosestuff
@socksdosestuff Жыл бұрын
@@appa9486 true i was tired when making this comment- it was like 1-2 am i meant no offence to bhh ive just had friends who have been groomed (and i was groomed a little once) and when they talk about it they talk a lot like bbh was i wouldn't mention it or make theory's bout it if he says he did he did if not then not not really our business ^^
@pepperthedemon
@pepperthedemon Жыл бұрын
all the proof ive seen could so easily be faked i dont really think dream is a groomer, i just think people are trying to find ways to cancel him lmao
@Helloolove
@Helloolove Жыл бұрын
Bad telling so much truth by being so kind! (You can see his viewer count lowers while he talks about it)
@NA_Nevermind
@NA_Nevermind Жыл бұрын
Okay, finally, some explanation what happened. I'm not following any of old dsmp members except for fundy and skeppy and I've been seeing these video about fuzz and drama around dream. Unfortunately, no one told me what happened and I wasn't able to do a proper research on this one, but now I see the topic. It obv deserves a proper research for information, cause grooming is an awful action to make. We might not have the full picture as fans (as BBH said) and .. gosh.. I do want to believe it's some accusing Reputation might never recover from such damage. BadBoyHalo being a great human as always, very gentle about such topic, explaining his thoughts... Genuinely want to believe him tho Hope no one will end up in situation nor grooming, nor accusing for crimes they didn't perform. Stay save.
@Peachiestpersonaround
@Peachiestpersonaround Жыл бұрын
Listen, I don’t have enough evidence to make any conclusions yet. I do know 2 things, however. 1.) people have hated Dream for a long time. There has always been Dream slander for seemingly no reason, and I’ve never understood why because he’s just a content creator and a guy in Florida. I feel that all the negative attention he got/is getting is just really unfair. 2.) because of that, I know people will do and say anything for either attention or just to be a dickhead who spreads rumors to ruin someone’s life. A lot of people really fucking hate Dream, so it makes the situation harder to analyze. 3.) these, like Bad said, are *very serious* allegations. Grooming is a very bad thing, as is rape. It’s inexcusable. HOWEVER. This girl has provided proof that hasn’t seemed all like proof, even though she’s has plenty of time. And if she is a true victim, then I understand that, but it’s still odd. Another thing is that these types of things happen to nearly every big content creator, and because Dream tends to have a fairly toxic fanbase (I’m taking about stans, not fans) and a large number of slanderers, I feel like everyone’s a little biased. My final note is that: I don’t know if it’s true or not. If it is, I will immediately state that I don’t support him. However, if it’s not, I’m going to be very pissed that people decided it was a good idea to treat someone like that. To treat anyone like that. It’s cruel, and unfair, and a shitty thing to do.
@pinkpantherkipz3965
@pinkpantherkipz3965 Жыл бұрын
also something else that not many people seem to be addressing: why are the supposed "victims" or Dream's grooming going onto Twitter to call him out instead of going to police and if all of this happened months or even YEARS ago, why is it only being brought up now? you'd think that if someone personally found out a celebrity was a pedophile or a groomer then they would tell authorities before the internet. So regarding all of the people claiming to be victims, why have the police not been involved? Personally? I think it's because they're lying. There are real groomers out there and real pedophiles out there but if Dream was either of these then the evidence would not be hard to find, especially from the people who actually talked to him. Instead we get fragments of conversations of dubious authenticity and so many rumors spreading that it's actually making my head spin. The internet toxicity has to stop. It's ruining lives and the people who cause it get to sleep free at night without consequences
@voxitos
@voxitos Жыл бұрын
Dream confirmed it was him on a twitter audio moaning for a minor.
@Oosjhteuikmm
@Oosjhteuikmm Жыл бұрын
I agree
@Peachiestpersonaround
@Peachiestpersonaround Жыл бұрын
@@voxitos was it dream or that parody account someone made? Because someone made a parody account and tweeted things and some people couldn’t tell the different between them and the real Dream.
@voxitos
@voxitos Жыл бұрын
@@Peachiestpersonaround He confirms it in his last tweet,, On this part: ("seeing essentially unsubstantiated “revenge porn” of me be spread-") so yeah, that's him on those audios
@itsjustken1109
@itsjustken1109 Жыл бұрын
At this point, Dream being a groomer or not isn't my main focus, people jump to grooming accusations left and right because it ruins a career faster then anything else, you can't APOLOGIZE for grooming, we've seen that failure time and time again. But Dream has done more then that, he's weaponized his fanbase, said weird things to people under the age, said some insanely controversial takes and has taken over a year to address any of it. I can forgive someone if they apologize or actively try to change, I can't support someone who goes and focuses on a music career instead of righting wrongs.
@serendipitous4415
@serendipitous4415 Жыл бұрын
THIS, grooming allegations or not this man is not a good person, and there is a ton of stuff that he's said and done that is not okay, like recently he sent his entire fan base to attack a 16 year old because they said that they wouldn't be buying his overpriced merch. Like?????
@shadicy
@shadicy Жыл бұрын
right??? and the constant “jokes” about tommy.
@mxssjk5417
@mxssjk5417 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY OMG FINALLY
@DXC0622
@DXC0622 Жыл бұрын
I agree like the man is problematic ash😭
@alywayart
@alywayart Жыл бұрын
@@serendipitous4415finally someone pointing out why people dont like him. people say its cause people thought he was ugly from the face reveal, but thats not why i stopped being a fan. i stopped being a fan when i realized he only cares about himself and his ego
@Plankoblanko
@Plankoblanko Жыл бұрын
Bbh knows his friends well❤❤
@CrimsonTDI
@CrimsonTDI Жыл бұрын
Yo, so I know most people seeing this comment knows what's going on about the whole dream grooming a 17 year old thing. If you don't, basically dream is getting accused for grooming someone on snapchat (or maybe it was Instagram). I just want to make one thing clear… I will not defend someone that I KNOW is grooming, but I will defend someone who I KNOW did NOT groom someone because this is a very serious topic. I just want to say that I highly believe Dream didn't do SHIT. This '17 year old' girl gave so little information and proof and expected EVERYONE to believe her. Dream on the other hand is giving so much information and proof yet you all still don't believe him?? I'm not trying to pick sides, but I will defend someone who I think is being falsely accused of grooming because this is a very very VERY serious topic. I may only be eleven and quote on quote, 'not know better' but I know better than to attack a KZbinr and accuse someone I don't know personally at all of grooming someone because that is a VERY VERY serious topic that should not be joked about. -Alexis, (Shax) Signing off.
@carpstreamersafio
@carpstreamersafio Жыл бұрын
I'm not going to share my opinion on the matter before anything is confirmed, but holy hell, you're so mature for an 11 year old.
@seraphywang4638
@seraphywang4638 Жыл бұрын
If this is your maturity level at age 11, you’e gonna go far in life.
@CrimsonTDI
@CrimsonTDI Жыл бұрын
@@carpstreamersafio thanks, I try to think on all different scenarios that could be happening before I make a personal opinion so I can understand this from different points of views.
@Benjamslikestrains
@Benjamslikestrains Жыл бұрын
1. He has admitted to some of it (talking to them on snap without s word contacting, audio) which is different than an entirely fabricated story. 2. He has not given "tons of proof", he's barely addressed it and is still working on a response. Most of his tweets talking about it are just hearsay and not concrete at all. (e.g accusing his ex of doing it, just saying she lied) 3. Due to the nature of Snapchat, it's very hard to get proof since everything has an expiration date, what's she supposed to do other than plead with people to believe her with the evidence she does have? Just live in silence with the trauma as her groomer continues being idolized and continues doing it to more people? (Assuming she's telling the truth) I don't really have an opinion on this since I'm waiting for dream's video, and I do highly respect people who try to be unbiased, but I think this is more significant than just a baseless accusation. I don't want to be one of those people who are like "oh, anyone who's an adult can't talk to minors ever" because when I was 13-16 almost all of my friends were adults, hell at 17 my best friend was 33, but the fact he was talking to her on a service which is so temporary is suspicious to me. Why choose a place where nothing gets saved if you have nothing to hide? Surely talking on discord would've been simpler and more convenient, right? That doesn't confirm his guilt to me, but it's certainly going to be hard for him to prove that he's innocent, especially since any evidence HE could have for being innocent there is most likely gone as well. Thank you for being a bit open minded, though.
@CrimsonTDI
@CrimsonTDI Жыл бұрын
@@Benjamslikestrains actually, he admitted to DMing her. He shared screenshots of his chat logs of his socials, his messages with her, etc etc. Nothing about grooming was there, he even showed that she deleted messages she sent. He gave proof and he is taking legal action and she is too. This is actually none of our concern since we don't even know him personally, we should let them deal with this legally without barging in. I wasn't picking sides, I'm providing the information and proof that was given by him because some people don't have socials.
@quackermeet
@quackermeet Жыл бұрын
Badboyhalo is the kindest person on this earth and he's really good at wording things
@TehBeansie
@TehBeansie Жыл бұрын
I've read tweets, I've seen the many accusations. Some, I will admit, were either proven to be faked for attention or just because of how high the hatred for Dream is. But there there has been legitimate proof that this guy has groomed minors, being manipulative of the situation/not taking it seriously, or saying he'll talk about the situation but instead put it off as much as possible. People can have their opinions on this, and that's perfectly fine. But if he were truly innocent, he would've shown his side of things instead of the whole "The haters are trying to badmouth me, love to all those that are supporting me
@Coolskeleton2030
@Coolskeleton2030 Жыл бұрын
agree also that joke he made with the "i love miners" and trying to redirect the focus to the drama he had with the voice actors seems a bit weird tbh (im not defending or calling dream a gr00m3r, im pretty neutral about it and waiting to see whats the actual true story of this)
@williamchilds216
@williamchilds216 Жыл бұрын
He's said he's working on a video. This could take months to make considering Kwite's video took a month to make and he had only a single allegation made against him. Dream has a LOT going against him so it will take a while to make. I, personally, haven't seen any actual proof that he's groomed anyone. Everything I've seen has been edited in some way, or the accuser has literally admitted to themselves lying. If you could link some of this legitimate proof then please go ahead, I'd like to see it as I havent already. Another note is that neurodiverse people struggle with social standards (this isn't me being quirky like one of those online fakers. It's a genuine thing that is much deeper than needing /s or /j at the end of sentences. It can literally cause you to struggle with maturity in situations and how to best react in situations - I, personally, struggle with this as Ii will laugh in basically any situation due to anxiety/stress/happiness) so Dream may be in a situation where he cant understand what to do as there's no point in life where you are taught how to react when being accused of grooming, especially as it takes longer for neurodiverse people to learn this when it does happen. Note: I am not defending him and saying this is 100% the reason, I am just stating another viewpoint (hence why I said 'Dream may' instead of 'Dream is'.
@15Alex_Row13
@15Alex_Row13 Жыл бұрын
Bad is just ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@sztyletyy
@sztyletyy Жыл бұрын
the persona this man has built around himself has really taken a hold of many people here, parasociality plays a huge role in most of the comments ive seen here. i highly encourage reevaluation of your views if you let the so called 'softness' and 'trustworthiness' of this stranger influence your view on a situation with such utmost importance. real people have been harmed and youre out here looking at it all through an uncritical, unfiltered lense. all because you cant shake the thought of a man with a sweet and humble persona lying to your face. i cant state this enough - i highly encourage reevaluation, and doing your own research before you come to a conclusion.
@Benjamslikestrains
@Benjamslikestrains Жыл бұрын
*real people have claimed to have been harmed. I believe Dream is a manipulative, low empathy person from how he talks and acts, but after seeing his response I think he is innocent. I also don't think it's inherently "wrong" to judge someone's character and trust them after, but most I think most people do not doubt anything to get to trust. What most people call "trust" is actually apathy, and that's very dangerous to get used to doing. So, I agree with your sentiment, but disagree with your opinion.
@KnightGaming206
@KnightGaming206 Жыл бұрын
Nobody: Twitter users whenever a Minecraft KZbinr becomes popular: pedophile detected!
@ProudpudSaelee
@ProudpudSaelee Жыл бұрын
I’m happy that bad has addressed it since other creators tend to not really speak about it, he talks about it very clearly and he speaks in complete pure truth (my opinion)
@user-bx3kz9sp8p
@user-bx3kz9sp8p Жыл бұрын
This may be kind of random(?) but I’ve read comments that have said stuff like ‘imo [name] is a groomer’ and I’m just like??? No? P3d0philia isn’t an ‘opinion’ you have towards someone. It’s a crime? You can’t just call someone one because you don’t like them. You need evidence, and fake evidence doesn’t do anything except damage victims and possibly innocent people.
@fooI._.ish..
@fooI._.ish.. Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but I got so triggered when the views dropped right away when he started to talk bout grooming he went from 24 k to 17 k to 5k??and at the end of vid he was at 1k that's js sad imo
@Khats4Life
@Khats4Life Жыл бұрын
did anyone see the girl claiming bad was the reason that dream "turned out this way" Istg she's crazy.... 💀
@Al-zw7fo
@Al-zw7fo Жыл бұрын
i love bad so much
@usarolls6008
@usarolls6008 Жыл бұрын
I love BBH so much omg. Such a gigachad.
@JUMALATION1
@JUMALATION1 Жыл бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty. I have a strong feeling that a lot of the allegations are VASTLY exaggerated, but that there's probably some minor (pun not intended) detail that might have a grain of truth to it. BadBoyHalo commented on the events in a very correct fashion, I admire that.
@theman7217
@theman7217 Жыл бұрын
I was never really a fan of dream but I dont want anyone to get accused of something like this, not only is it bad but also that means there was someone who suffered.
@Human_h3ll0
@Human_h3ll0 Жыл бұрын
I don't watch dream much,but I hate how much hate he gets,it's uncool like people just take a KZbinr and say some random sh t..... But on another hand I like how bad words stuff he is super clear and kind with his words and I completely agree with him on this matter
@jun9833
@jun9833 Жыл бұрын
first the tiktok ghost cosplayer (i dont really know how to spell his name) and now dream? seriously people? you want to ruin another guy's life?
@thebestmoa
@thebestmoa Жыл бұрын
dream is actually a groomer
@jun9833
@jun9833 Жыл бұрын
@@thebestmoa Give more evidence. Because same thing happened to the TikTok guy and because of false allegations, the guy took his life.
@charlenedee3358
@charlenedee3358 Жыл бұрын
I just discovered dream 3 weeks ago before this come up to light, i first see his content in dream shorts and i find it so hilarious so i searched through his main and i find him funny, smart and innovative, genius i might say, and how he cares for his friends, you can feel it genuinely, I've seen so many times that he's been called out by George being friendly with his fans, and he said in an interview, he can't view them as numbers in his channel cause they're real people thats why so interactive, so I'm shocked to this one, I've done a research and learned this was a year ago, Dream was advised not to talked about it not until she took legal actions which took a year and didn't come to light, so Dream tell his side just now, it's so unfair that people judge him for that, followed by tge hate he gain from his face reveal (which they call him ugly but not, i find him attractive) it's not just grooming that can destroy a persons life but also false accusations
@Fuzzycatsloveme
@Fuzzycatsloveme Жыл бұрын
Even if Dream didn’t do it, he still states that it didn’t matter she was a minor. I trust Bad, I just don’t trust Dream
@NN0ea
@NN0ea Жыл бұрын
I just REALLY hope this won’t end up like the Inquisitor’s story, i felt so bad for him, and now it feels like same situation if you look into it more. Im not sure what side i am on, since i tried to look for proof and find actual evidence that Dream did all of the stuff theyre accusing him for, but i just can’t find ANYTHING directly against him, but i don’t know if i should defend him either. I guess sometimes its better to stay out of the drama and not be on anyone’s side than spread false information if Dream is bad person or not
@Maximus_lucas
@Maximus_lucas Жыл бұрын
Im gonna feel bad for badboyhalo if dreams aligations turn out to be true because this is gonna get memed to death
@adlibyeah
@adlibyeah Жыл бұрын
I hope it’s true
@Iz4bela_3
@Iz4bela_3 Жыл бұрын
@@adlibyeah Why???!!
@adlibyeah
@adlibyeah Жыл бұрын
@@Iz4bela_3 cuz its lit! (Straight up!)
@Iz4bela_3
@Iz4bela_3 Жыл бұрын
@@adlibyeah Still don't get why
@bao_dumpling7682
@bao_dumpling7682 Жыл бұрын
dude Dream definitely does not act like someone who would do something like that of course, I don't know a whole lot about the situation because I'd rather not get wrapped up in that bs for once, but I can say that people mess with other people's lives sometimes just because they feel like it, and this time we really have to consider the fact that there is likely a majority of people on the opposite side of this argument praying on Dream's downfall because they never liked him or are upset he doesn't look the way they wanted him too and obviously the internet has to make a huge deal about that, because "it's the internet and it gets what it wants or else >:("
@Svt_caratt
@Svt_caratt 11 ай бұрын
Twitter is a scary place
@hunter-hoppy
@hunter-hoppy Жыл бұрын
never have I seen a fandom hate it's own idol
@brontegoodman6238
@brontegoodman6238 Жыл бұрын
Bro, you was the last person left on the stream after he started talking about it, I was watching the chat count go down the whole time
@jpachu16
@jpachu16 Жыл бұрын
Bad is the only person who can have a proper unbiased opinion on this cause he’s been there, being falsely accused for grooming. Not saying dream is or is not a groomer, but we don’t have concrete evidence of it either way. So far it’s just he said she said and fake dms that muddle what’s actually true. And dream just being pompous and hot headed as always and not making the narrative any better.
@M0onStoneisagem
@M0onStoneisagem Жыл бұрын
Badboyhalo is the best human being because he knows what to say and how to say it. I don’t mean this in a weird way but i love Badboyhalo as a person because hes literally the sweetest person
@Zillykitsune
@Zillykitsune Жыл бұрын
i honestyly thought from the very start people who were acccusing dream were speaking bs because i didnt believe he would do such thing. but dear godness bad i seriously cannot think of any person in this world that speaks this clearly.
@nekocindy551
@nekocindy551 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bad, hugs to you.
@arianramadanov_s1teknikele418
@arianramadanov_s1teknikele418 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, Bad has Skeppy to protect and support him. I guess he'll be fine.
@ki0riginal
@ki0riginal Жыл бұрын
I'm mainly nutral on this whole dream situation as I bearly keep up with it, HOWEVER some of the recent things he has done I 100% disagree with and I do not like him as a person for. I am mainly talking about how he took a video of Gumballs VA drunk talking shit to him in the middle of an episode. There are some things dreams done like this that I just can't stand by at all, but the grooming alegations are something I'm trying to stay away from because I, obviously, have my own bias on him as a person as of current. However I have no real world ideas as to whether these aligations are true or false, I haven't actually seen the original or any new evidence on it, but I try keep myself pretty nutral on the topic cause, as we all are, I am unaware of whether this is real of fake. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk.
@KyrusR
@KyrusR Жыл бұрын
the way the viewers just _drop_ man
@yepitscrow
@yepitscrow Жыл бұрын
ive never heard bad speak this seriously bro
@FunWithColeen
@FunWithColeen Жыл бұрын
i am waiting to hear both sides, obviously i support the victims and if what they are saying is true it takes a lot of courage i hope they are just allegations so those people didn't have to go through something as horrible as grooming. i do however believe that dream has a not appropriate and a parasocial relationship with his fans and shouldn't have been messaging them in the first place. that was irresponsible on his part.
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