The Time GTA IV Ads Were Banned on Mass Transit in Chicago

badgergoodger patreon.com/badgergoodger twitch.tv/badgergoodger A flashback to a controversy in 2008, yet again involving officials for the city of Chicago being unable to decide whether or not video games cause real life crime.

[@Fisheee123]

It comes down to thins basically: a bunch of old people don't want to take responsibility for their poor crime prevention, so they blame videogames

[@reapthewhirlwind6915]

now they got vr to blame

[@isaacster5027]

Yep. Its always been a scapegoat. And parents and teachers etc eat it up. Damn politicians

[@isaacsrandomvideos667]

Yeah

[@WhirlwindQuest]

Agreed especially with gta5 and Illinois

[@benjamin1403]

If you don’t think glorifying violence , drug dealing and crime culture doesn’t influence developing minds into thinking it’s acceptable/cool behaviour your just dumb.

[@andreibaciu7518]

"GTA ads promote violence!!!!" *Every add is just a character with no contex*

[@MechanicCactuss]

i dunno man but when i see a video game character putting on gloves i instantly get the urge to pull out a gun and just go kill people and steal cars

[@thepostalteenager2206]

Se vede că joci GTA iv

[@onewisedre]

@@MechanicCactuss same bro

[@kostente]

only durex

[@RexxiToon]

@@MechanicCactuss same 🥶🥶🥶😰😰😱😱

[@chefofthetrash]

You know after seeing that GTAIV ad I’m suddenly craving human blood.

[@80808.]

same

[@Subhadip-om1sm]

@@80808. No name??

[@HirstMovies]

Ohhgod don’t tell jack

[@trz6952]

@@Nuuk_Nuke_Nook nice reference

[@andarara-c1p]

Whenever I play GTA I´m craving for carjacking the first car parked in my street (including my own car). I just can´t stop myself. Notice the sarcasm.

[@Gypsyx]

Rockstar didn’t thank the bus driver and that’s the real story Badger won’t talk about

[@BBashar]

gypsy oh hmmm uhmmm 12seconds ago

[@markoz673bajen8]

Lol

[@bloxxer02]

lol

[@mehaniq]

yo hello))))))))))))

[@VEE0034]

What year is this? 2017?

[@nope9183]

"Breaking news, thousands of loli pops stolen because of a 'sexy lady licking one' called GTA I've."

[@ajlogomanthecreepysusiefan5502]

Damn that’s underrated.

[@systemical1]

@zuxoc yeah lmao

[@kiwikiwi2483]

You joking but I've been stealing lollipops since 2008. Got a whole vault dawg 🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭🍭

[@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet]

CNN be like

[@kiwikiwi2483]

@@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet FOX be like

[@Peizxcv]

Ah, Chicago, the city known for safety and peace

[@josipgrbesa7509]

He's just standing there, MENACINGLY !!!

[@isaacster5027]

Jack Thompson when

[@Saikocide]

who just thinks that someone would just say "wow, a gta ad. i want to commit immediate acts of violence whenever possible"

[@hossel_]

people who dont understand / dont want to understand video games

[@dark_hood7]

@@hossel_ is not about understanding video games, as there were a lot of pretty violent movies ads and they had no problem with them, is just about being rational and competent in what they are doing, and this story isn't much different then the Illinois 'let's ban gta because that's gonna reduce violence and crime and sure before video games existed carjacking wasn't a thing and everyone lived in peace with no wars' lawmaker logic

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

“Wow a gta ad.... It’s time for me to kill and time for me to die”

[@isaacster5027]

When the hooker licking a lollipop incites riots 😎

[@PriestessofGenbu]

I don't know, that Impotent Rage thing in V really upset some, well, you know whos.

[@finlaymcsporran3578]

It's a tail as old as time. The media pointing fingers at rockstar

[@lamborgini86]

at this point its a boy who cries wolf

[@thearousedeunuch]

Tale, but yeah.

[@mickporter1488]

It's a marketing ploy. Rockstar probably pay these media outlets to ban the game/ads its good publicity.

[@Nefare1781]

Well they wouldn’t have a news story if they can’t connect shootings to violent video games. Lol

[@CB-ej3kp]

"Woah, a Russian guy putting on finglerless gloves?!?! This makes me wanna rob a bank!"

[@xpmyt341]

niko is serbian

[@ahmadzahraniAAZ]

@@xpmyt341 that's the point, because whoever says that probably was starved of oxygen in the womb.

[@xpmyt341]

@@ahmadzahraniAAZ lol

[@SyntaxErr19287]

The name makes me want to commit grand theft auto

[@PriestessofGenbu]

"Woah, a Russian guy putting on fingerless gloves?!?! That makes me want to fix an election!"

[@modelomyk]

4:46 what’s crazy is I remember in 2008 I was 8 years old. & I went to an after school program because my mom was a teacher and single mom. One day they played the dark knight for us! I was in 4th grade possibly 5th. just read the dvd didn’t release until December 2008

[@bradleyhayes2373]

You just made me feel well old 😂thanks bro

[@Thatguy55595]

Okay? You’re still a kid basically lol you can’t even drink

[@AzraelFPV]

@@Thatguy55595 he can prolly drink, I was 8 in 08, and I'm 21 now...maybe check your math.

[@Synthwavu]

The Dark Knight had more violent controversy than GTA IV lmao

[@abdullayaser700]

Care to elaborate more ?

[@douchopotamus3755]

@@abdullayaser700 the mass shooting

[@Nixton1996]

@@douchopotamus3755 that was The Dark Knight Rises, not The Dark Knight.

[@Theffs-handle]

A GTA in Chicago would actually be pretty cool.

[@dustin_4501]

Just never tell that to the politicians from Chicago or they will banned this game even before release.

[@ArtieArchives]

GTA in Texas

[@dustin_4501]

@@ArtieArchives If is set in the 80's could take inspiration from the Dallas TV Show.

[@Sleepysunsetz]

@@ArtieArchives I live in texas and I really dont know how they'd pull that off

[@valdpop3538]

Watch dogs.

[@WorseUser]

I love the GTA 2 refrence at the start of this video, other than that I love the stories about GTA IV too!

[@ajlogomanthecreepysusiefan5502]

And remember respect is everything!

[@vaishnavkadam5887]

And all this time I thought niko was the one driving the bus 🙄

[@thepostalteenager2206]

Look at the HUD

[@ABlueyFan]

And the gorgeous weather

[@WakanaGojo86]

It's The Ballad of Gay Tony.

[@TheMelvinV]

"for this we have to go back to april 2008" K wait let me pull out my deluxo!

[@weonvirtual]

It's funny how something VERY SIMILAR on the SAME LOCATION happened related to GTA and the crime, but both situations are separated by almost 13 years

[@MsMariGaming]

Topic: Ads being pulled from a mass transit system Video visuals: Mass transit bus being driven wrecklessly and going crazy

[@mackenziek8383]

The advertising money from GTA wouldn't even be a drop in the bucket in terms of how much it'd cost for the CTA to purchase new trains.

[@nickeyzs1820]

RESPECT IS EVRYTHING

[@rkzooplays]

Everything?

[@SUPERMARTINGAMEPLAYS]

@@rkzooplays no, EVRYTHING

[@daime2393]

Yes brozzer rezpekt is every thing

[@TheLukesterGaming]

"Oh no that man in the poster is wearing fingerless gloves, quick call the Police!"🤔😂 but yeah, the way they treated it you'd think they were all holding/firing guns in those GTA IV ads or something🙄 an interesting video there on the subject anyway!👍

[@thedrbat9572]

7:47 Luis walking out of the bus made me smile lol. whole time i thought you were playing as niko.

[@Vixen1525]

The Hud tells you the real version:3

[@thedrbat9572]

@@Vixen1525 yeah i know in gta iv it is green and blue and in tbogt it is white and purple. i just havent played in so long lol

[@raxacoricofalapatorian5256]

There's a lot of GTA IV stuff on the channel lately and honestly I like it

[@Flipdodge392]

That game will live on forever!

[@raxacoricofalapatorian5256]

AMEN! AMEN TO GTA IV! CAN I GETTA AMEN TO GTA IV FROM MY BROTHERS AND MY SISTERS?! I SAID, CAN I GETTA AMEN?!

[@r0b3rt_959]

Chicago saw GTA IV's “Worst place in America” and took it personally and became carjacking capital of the world...

[@arthurfine4284]

Now we know who failed their geography class.

[@JoolianV]

@@arthurfine4284 and grammar

[@arthurfine4284]

@@JoolianV English is harder than looking at a map and pointing out towns, cities, and countries.

[@christianozorio1997]

They find out since the Beggining That Niko Was an Real Threat

[@CARLJOHNSON-ny8sn]

I still remember going to Hollywood video for my copy of GTA 4 I had the Mimi poster for this game and the fake wanted poster as well I will always love GTA 4

[@galilalexandro4392]

Starting up the morning with a new video, there’s nothing better than a new video of badgergoodger

[@nand87]

It's night in here though

[@importjunkie91]

Doubt.

[@daesplays8737]

And we'll still be seeing bs like this 10, 20, 80 years from now. You know, by the time Gta 6 comes out.

[@sneakyrabbit3738]

80 years? I think your being a little optimistic

[@royale7620]

@@sneakyrabbit3738 With the unfortunate massive support for all this liberal BS going around the world atm, I think 80 years as well.

[@fawn7531]

@@royale7620 that’s not liberals

[@royale7620]

@@fawn7531 that's not English either

[@fawn7531]

@@royale7620 what’s not English?

[@KadonZaxus]

The MBTA is back asswards. I've worked for them and everyone in the upper echelon puts their pants on backwards.

[@durrburgerdennis4030]

What position

[@KadonZaxus]

@@durrburgerdennis4030 we get fucked by the MBTA in every position. Lol

[@budgetstylestories8357]

They allow gambling ads but they don’t allow a video game to get advertised.

[@man_on_wheelz]

I'm a Chicagoan and this is the most ridiculous thing ever. This is why I never watched Fox news in the first damn place. This may have very well played a part in why I didn't really get the memo that GTAIV got released when it did. As die-hard a fan of the GTA series as I am, the release of GTAIV went right over my head until a coworker mentioned it, and still I wasn't all that enthusiastic about it until I finally got the game for myself. They really need to stop pulling the "violent" card when it comes to new video games. Video games imitate reality, not the other way around. Violence has existed long before video games or even movies were ever a thing. I swear people are so dumb.

[@TrandafirProdutions]

@badgergooder I decided to look it up when you first brought up R rated violent movie ads and re-discovered the “The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo” came out the following year meaning there would have been ads for that in the later half of the year. Although it seems to have been released in 09 in Sweden first and in the US in early 2010 but the point still remains that “TGWTDT”, has more violent material and subject matter than gta4. P.S. love your videos, I get excited for each one, I’ve learned so much about GTA 4 background, mysteries and history. Thank you for your hard work and stellar entertainment.

[@rive3051]

0:47 ngl that bus looks hella fire🔥

[@jagmann07--9]

Hell Yeah Brother

[@emanekafecaftoggaf6893]

transport authority: i need money taxpayers: to buy train? transport authority: yess transport authority: *actually wastes money on lawsuit like a boss* bus time

[@zzzoric]

Making GTA IV content still in 2021! Keep up man I love ur vids 💪💪

[@ToniCiprianiEntertainment]

7:24 The fact that the bus didn't crash into the wall was so blessed

[@aaron.6923]

God badger you reminded how long 2008 was when you dropped those movies 🔥 , gta was at its prime 👌

[@blank6521]

Wow Chicago is just trying to blame all of their problems and crime on gta

[@SK-bi7ds]

Lol

[@jtkgames0]

who looks at a bus stop ad and goes "Yeah, I'm gonna commit murder."

[@ajlogomanthecreepysusiefan5502]

Second GTA video involving Chicago? I’m already starting to see a pattern...

[@MayorofHopeville]

There's so much crime in our city. That's why we're making a story about a popular video game's ads, not the crimes themselves. Funniest part to me is that they could report about the why too. But media is the go to scapegoat.

[@jimmyhopkins1]

dang dude I never realised how much i love gta 4 content great stuff once again.

[@zeapsin186]

6:47 I was just thinking about the aqua team incident lmao

[@zeapsin186]

@@KemonoGamer75 lmao

[@AgiDaKinG]

And still in 2021, Chicago remains one of those most dangerous cities in the U.S. better cancel GTA 6

[@u-shanks4915]

PEOPLE IN CHICAGO 2008 AYO HOLDUP HOLDUP GTA 4 COMMING OUT

[@guthriebarrett]

Gamings biggest rivalries Sonic V. Mario Sony V. Microsoft Need for Speed V. Midnight Club GTA V. The City of Chicago

[@TXRXL.]

This made me think of that one “easter egg” in GTA IV where (SPOLERS) you go into Oleg’s computer and look at the news, where there’s a parody on the news article “video games cause violence”. I think it said something about some stoned guy getting killed outside of a game shop, that way the games inside must TOTALLY have caused this... Also I’m not even sure this only is visible during that mission, but that was the only time I saw it so...

[@casolESP]

I love how you are just driving public transport while speaking about public transport companies

[@_Devil]

Ah yes, Chicago. A city that has a history of routinely snuffing out crime and protecting its people.

[@MajorExploitz]

@Badger Goodger Honestly i am surprised that GTA IV Banners would be banned on transits back then seems odd how they would do that for one of rockstar's biggest games that wasn't very big yet since it wasn't released at the time but it eventually became one of their biggest hit games at the time. (Also just seemed childish for them to do this to an big video game industry like rockstar back then when obviously rockstar had the upper hand when filing an lawsuit against those that banned the ad's!)

[@hagmarx2639]

Imagine blaming a video game for your cities violence. More people get killed in Chicago than Iraq. And Grand theft auto is gonna somehow affect it? I’m sure😂

[@fencino]

Wait what? Is Chicago really that bad?

[@Meesmoth]

What kind of stuff violent videogames have that violent movies and TV shows don't have? I don't see any difference. How ironic that they decided to ban only Grand Theft Auto while there's plenty of other violent movies even depicting mass murder on public transportation. Final Destination 3 (2006) had a NYC subway derailment and we can clearly see violence during the scene. Knowing (2009) also had a similar scene, at the NYC subway, yet it didn't got banned either. Censorship in a nutshell...

[@boahneelassmal]

it almost feels like someone within cta didn't want the ads and thus asked the news to make a story about it in order to have something to base the decision off of

[@ethanreed8400]

Chicago Transit Authority was also the company that threatened to sue the band now known as Chicago for using their name.

[@WhamDieMoe]

04:22 This Picture Had Me

[@DepressedDerek82]

The badger in a suit?

[@Konoronn]

This guy has such a great voice.

[@brunixot1]

Oh yea I remember those ads, I became a criminal after seeing on of those, good times

[@HereGoesKevin]

These online Journalism/Researching whatever type of Channels are getting at it's peak on KZbin right now, & I like it. Were becoming more & more aware of the details of the "bigger picture".

[@KingVoss]

I’m from Chicago I was 13 when this happened I remember it like it was yesterday

[@djpainkiller3326]

Honestly they should’ve made the GTA V game map Chicago just to get back at them

[@guyincognito1232]

I both love GTA and live in Chicago and I’ve never heard of this.

[@MattZaycYT]

4:52 I totally forgot this bridge existed on GTA IV! 🤯

[@chrisw443]

till this day there is a very big rift between that fox station and the cta. Word on the street was that the settlement amount was a ton of money and really delayed the deployment of trains by a couple years.

[@ROCKSTARMANIC12]

Very informative video Badger!! I've always liked how R* promotes their titles, they go out and try to take the biggest billboard and plaster their titles on them. Very Rockstar like! I would have loved to have gotten those posters and such as a collector!! keep it up!

[@2burp2]

It's crazy politicians try to blame video games for crime instead of fixing the actual issues which is poverty and income inequality.

[@stefo5744]

That GTA 2 Intro was over the top!

[@WakanaGojo86]

Improve law and order, improve security by getting well fitted skillful people as cops: 🤷 Blaming a video game for increase in crime: 🙋

[@davidblanc458]

I love that it looks like a newscast but with a flying bus

[@rdclips3647]

How is it inopropriate it is literally people standing on a board does it mean lolly pops kills or something

[@Sonicsal]

I don't know. You know what they always put on cta? Old court shows mostly

[@danericardo6148]

Hey Badger, don't know if this fits the concept of your channel but personally I'd love to see a video of you analyzing the depiction of Chicago (your hometown?) in games such as Watch Dogs or Mafia Remastered. I know they ain't R* titles but also not very far off.

[@SYXX-II]

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure badger is from the UK (or atleast just has the accent)

[@KillSteelVol3]

I’m from Chicago My uncle used to work for CTA and all but I never knew about this

[@ArthurMuneh]

What these fools don’t realize that these actions make the subject more popular

[@20EsOfficial]

streisand effect

[@ArthurMuneh]

@@20EsOfficial you got it

[@christopherberry3036]

The argument about the correlation of mature video games and violence is one that exposes the ridiculousness of politicians and lobbyists, no matter if they're conservative or liberal. Bipartisanship in bullshit.

[@TKsh1]

I think it's even more funny with conservatives since they're usually the ones who supposedly hate the "politically correct" and love guns, violence and stuff.

[@luissantiago5163]

Oh cool. Good morning everyone!

[@CLK944]

morning

[@LividCreature]

Man violence in Chicago sure has decreased substantially since they removed those GTA ads off mass transit since 2008…

[@rudraneeldas9706]

2008 **BANS GTA 4 ADVERTISEMENTS** 2021: **BANS GTA**

[@AmoralTom]

I'm offended Niko is wearing gloves

[@Denzix]

7:12 That was a sick-ass bus stunt 😲

[@baa848]

If they ever did a GTA Chicago that was really accurate with the culture in history like they did LA or New York or Miami that would change the game forever

[@hansmuller1933]

The question is: Did the crime rate went down after stopping al the advertisements.

[@SuperOvidiuMihai]

After the ad campaign is over, what happens with the bus stop posters? I am interested in getting one

[@bubbyft3779]

we’ve come so far haven’t we... oh wait

[@-Garviel_Loken-]

What do these people not understand here? GTA isn’t for children

[@KH0LRA]

Especially IV! I can't imagine understanding GTA IV's story as a kid with how very mature in tone it was..

[@Mantis_Toboggan_TrashMan]

The whole Aqua Teen Hunger Force Boston "incident" is so frustrating. It's the real reason ATHF got canceled.

[@itwontcomeout5678]

Sees thumbnail: oh cool Chicago Transit Authority and Grand Theft Auto (CTA + GTA) “wait I know that stop, it’s Cermak-McCormick Place on the Green Line and I saw it being built in 2015- it wasn’t around in 2008” 😝 Fun Fact: Batman v. Superman (2016) did some filming in Chicago, and for the early scene of Bruce Wayne’s parents’ death, a CTA train station in the background was “dressed up” as a Gotham Transit Authority *(GTA)* station, complete with green “GTA” logo signs and a fictional system map that looked very similar to the real one, except the station names were named after some of the film’s producers I think (Easter Egg, lol) Oh yeah, and almost none of this is even visible in the movie because the station is in a background shot for like 5 seconds and you don’t get to see the custom signs inside. They just really care about immersion (production value?) in the surrounding blocks of the film set haha

[@Histingame]

Me watching a violent move: bro thats awesome i wanna get into a gunfight Me playing violent game: what in the actual fuck?!?!?! I shot thru that fence and it didnt go thru???? Fuck this

[@johndawhale3197]

I actually agree with them wanting ads of GTA 4 removed from public advertising but for different reasons. Here in the UK I remember everywhere I went this game was advertised on billboards, bus stops, tv ads etc. I was only about 12 years old yet I was obsessed with wanting to play it because of how popular it was at the time. I can actually remember how every other kid my age talked about wanting to play it when it came out. It was an 18+ game that 12 year old's were obsessed over... I don't actually believe that kids shouldn't be playing video games that contain violence (I don't actually hold that view at all)...however I do see a major problem with kids playing 18+ games. Anything else in society that's made for adults such as cigarettes, alcohol etc will also be seen as attainable in kids minds if they can get ahold of an 18+ game...therefor it's the 18+ rating that is flawed. There should be a "with adult supervision" rating in my opinion...I'm not saying adults should be supervising their kids while they play games however that rating would at least take away from the stigma of GTA being this adult-only platform like cigarettes and alcohol etc.

[@andrebelefleur4965]

As someone who has lived in Miami, they didn’t fight it because no one would see it with how horrid transit was back then.

[@stianekul]

first it was comic books, then it was movies and now it is video games.

[@2ndgencadi189]

DUDE I WOULD LOVE TO RIDE IN A GTA IV BUS!!

[@JamesTrifolium]

How has nobody figured out that “Looking into it” is the same as “I don’t give a shit”

[@deadchanneldontwatch7347]

5:11 lol the lollipop part

[@legbot124]

Jack Thompson on his way to get bus ads removed

[@ChaseMC215]

Pardon my AVGN, but, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!

[@sejoki1]

"We have to go back in time to April of 2008" If only… if only.

[@NicolasChiribelo]

Would love to go back exactly three years earlier, April 2005. My best childhood show premiered... I miss those days.

[@nabri-nfg3262]

Bro how has chicago not got a gta game yet

[@sascha_becker]

Wow its been exactly 13 Years since GTA IV was released @.@

[@GRLDYLEE22]

Just becuz it's called grand theft auto doesnt mean it supporting a criminal activity, smh 😤😤😤😤

[@VLE-Grimace]

That outro song is goated

[@Andrewjg_89]

I would like to see Rockstar Games do a remake of GTA IV and Episodes from Liberty City on Nintendo Switch, PS5, Xbox XS and on iOS and Android. And also to do a remake of GTA 2 on Nintendo Switch, iOS and Android.