"Friendly takedown" as "Take-Two told us to do it ourselves before they did themselves"
@suna9555Күн бұрын
Exactly 😢😢😢
@Jvid75222 сағат бұрын
It is friendly considering DMCA would be completely justified because it’s very clearly breaks their copyright and is theft of their intellectual property
@Parmie22 сағат бұрын
friendly.... for now also great pfp
@Rebcap0519 сағат бұрын
@@Parmie ...that's just smut.
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
They call it the Old Yeller Notice.
@ornix5761Күн бұрын
Fun Fact: By numbers, Rockstar has taken down more mods in the community than had done updates for fixing the "Definitive Edition"
@daveraschke23 сағат бұрын
That's not fun That's awful
@KNINESVIDS22 сағат бұрын
I don't like this new rockstar since post rdr2... By by beloved studio
@Jvid75222 сағат бұрын
What a goofy unrelated comparison of two statistics that have nothing to do with one another
@slyguybri21 сағат бұрын
@@Jvid752 while unrelated, I don't think it's goofy because it shows their priorities. Going after mods while letting legacy games sink is goofy.
@GemmyHomey21 сағат бұрын
@@KNINESVIDSthe rockstar who made gta 3-Rdr2 are not the rockstar making gta 6
@IDHLEB22 сағат бұрын
Poor little multibillion corporation. Couldn't handle someone flip their assets around.
@Kastrenzo7414 сағат бұрын
i dont know if you've been paying attention or not, but pencilneck legal aguments allowing stupid shit, is the way of the world now.
@Gapis3213 сағат бұрын
Asset flip implies profit. This was, from the start, a non-profit passion project. that makes it even worse.
@hallucinationthoughtsКүн бұрын
They're only annoyed because they can't charge the players for it
@waynepayne9875Күн бұрын
It's not gone. We all have it and we will seed it for others. Edit: I'm currently uploading the full project (Jan 6 version) to Google drive. Will link to it in a video.
@1994CPK23 сағат бұрын
based seeders
@watema338123 сағат бұрын
Yarr harr matey
@Yeetb0i23 сағат бұрын
Thank you for your service, matey
@sol-hb8zg23 сағат бұрын
Got a link?
@FART_TESTICLES23 сағат бұрын
Seeding it right now :)
@ajlogomanthecreepysusiefan5502Күн бұрын
“Friendly takedown” my ass. It’s clear that they were threatened with a DMCA and lawsuit.
@notfreeman177617 сағат бұрын
Whats next "friendly murders"? "friendly thefts"? "friendly arson"?
@CanonOverseer16 сағат бұрын
@notfreeman1776 We called them "fiery but mostly peaceful protests"
@notfreeman177616 сағат бұрын
@ True.
@OrgusDin15 сағат бұрын
It literally has "be a real shame" energy.
@XperimentalOdin12 сағат бұрын
@notfreeman1776 it's not murder, it's friendly sabotage
@ChiekoGamersКүн бұрын
Corporate greed kills the gaming industry, not piracy.
@Charly_bro20 сағат бұрын
Lemme pull up two legendary quotes. "Piracy is a case of bad service" -Gabe Newell "If buying isnt owning, piracy is not stealing" -Unknown
@ALWAREED_20 сағат бұрын
@@Charly_broChad gabe newell
@kenyattaleefrazierIII19 сағат бұрын
How much money would they make from removing the liberty city preservation project im genuinely curious 🧐
@OrgusDin15 сағат бұрын
Also the total incompetence of any game dev these days that leads people to need to mod the shit out of their games to make them worth playing in the first place. It's not an easy task, the devs should really pay random modders to shit up their games. The producers should have to fund the devs paying amateurs to do it better than them. The profits should all go to charity. It would be necessary they have twitter acounts, on which to be criticized for the decisions made by the modders they were required to hire and farm out work to. They would need to reply to every tweet. Meanwhile, I would play games made 20 years ago and ignore them.
@AverageAlien14 сағат бұрын
Nobody forces you to buy rockstar products. Don't like them? Don't buy their products. Simple
@_KOMods_Күн бұрын
Not even a month that this mod’s been out & it already got taken down, Rockstar really hates their community.
@Senti17Күн бұрын
Atleast we getting a new game
@sirlimen333Күн бұрын
@@Senti17F that. GTA 6 is going to suck.
@Senti17Күн бұрын
@sirlimen333 well that's a reach but ok
@FrankDeCiccoTheSaviorКүн бұрын
@@sirlimen333 do you really think that or are your wittle feeling hurt? Lmfao you sound like an absolute spoiled brat.
@VeilsideTofuКүн бұрын
@@Senti17 With this kind of consoomer mentality, rockstar will only get worse.
@SwiftyMan09Күн бұрын
Rockstar just hate seeing people having fun
@ajlogomanthecreepysusiefan5502Күн бұрын
Indeed they do…
@cjfrost1441Күн бұрын
I thought take 2 was the real problem.
@GusPena2Күн бұрын
Didn't Leslie Benzies want GTA Online to have Liberty Ciy? What's the problem with Take Two's lawyers?
@bigsmoke5814Күн бұрын
@@GusPena2he isnt with r anymore
@venzzgaming3734Күн бұрын
Yeah
@PlebNC19 сағат бұрын
It's worth noting companies typically wait until a mod is ready to be shown off, or better released fully, before issuing legal action. This is because actioning every potential project would be expensive and more likely to fail whereas waiting ensures the modders have displayed intent with evidence that can be used in court and generally made sure the modders are being serious. This is why the best practice for modders is to finish your mod then release it everywhere on a smurf account, then disappear and let users mirror it everywhere. Because even the most profitable companies can only take down so many download links and sheer volume of links beats lawyers every time. They take one link down, 20 more links appear on file sharing sites.
@hansmoleman266617 сағат бұрын
Bro these guys are too clout hungry to ever do that.
@chibisayori2014 сағат бұрын
yeah, i think people are so used to how a company like Valve treats mods that they expect EVERY game company to treat modders like Valve so they are reckless modding was ALWAYS a grey area, and not every game company (or developer) may support modding
@Knaeckebrotsaege14 сағат бұрын
@@hansmoleman2666 except they *did* do that. they distributed the mod via torrents. rockstar can't take those down since they're decentralized
@kvdrr12 сағат бұрын
@chibisayori20 "always a gray area" using official modtools that every third AAA game USED TO have is also gray area to you? and it's not just Valve, EA somehow doesn't target modders, even server emulators are allowed to exist to this very day. in reality, it's only Nintendo, Activision and T2 that go after modders, nobody else that is this greedy
@kvdrr12 сағат бұрын
@@hansmoleman2666 yeah, it's clout chasing that killed sm2 mod for mw2. you can sing all you want about operational security, gaining prestige to your name will always take precedence over sending an ideological message
@kileak6Күн бұрын
That's fine, I'll just make it up to them by pirating GTA 6 😂
@MeadeJ6722 сағат бұрын
They deserve it. All of these "AAA" mega-corporation studios deserve it. As long as you aren't pirating from indy devs who legitimately deserve the income I don't see a problem with it at all.
@LoganRogers-e4q20 сағат бұрын
Like they care of you out of 6b
@dzhang445918 сағат бұрын
@@LoganRogers-e4q Make that two out of 6b. Yo ho
@notfreeman177617 сағат бұрын
Based!
@exodus350417 сағат бұрын
@@dzhang4459 make it 3
@malinalungu40718 сағат бұрын
Remember, Pirating Rockstar's Games is more fun than buying them.
@GrumpyCat9718 сағат бұрын
and no stupid rokcstar launcher
@ak-t7d6f10 сағат бұрын
@GrumpyCat97 yep
@MatiasFeliciano1Күн бұрын
It was to be expected, it sucks but we should've seen it coming
@MeadeJ6722 сағат бұрын
We did, that doesn't make it okay.
@dividedstatesofamerica25208 сағат бұрын
@@MeadeJ67 If these modders fail to see the patterns that were obvious from the past, they deserve it and it does make it okay.
@calebproductions12646 сағат бұрын
Not even surprised this happened, though it baffles me that people are this pissed off over a stupid mod being taken down.
@hanselvogis51426 сағат бұрын
Yeah, stupid modders reveal their projects when they aren't ready yet, only for them to get shut down anyway when it has happened so many times in the past already. Dropping it outright would make it impossible for T2 to contain it if everybody has already downloaded it.
@mrdrums007Күн бұрын
More of rockstar showing off how scummy and ignorant they are
@Qmotionn21 сағат бұрын
And yet we’re all going to buy their new game
@blooocki18 сағат бұрын
@@Qmotionnspeak for yourself ya little consooomer Depending on it I might not even pirate it lmao.
@dzhang445918 сағат бұрын
@@blooocki torrent and seed regardless
@Jacob006015 сағат бұрын
@@blooocki The game will be woke (and expensive) garbage. You’ll still be ripped off pirating it.
@yousifassar427513 сағат бұрын
@@Jacob0060how do you know this? All we’ve seen is 1 trailer and leaks from years ago which looked really good.
@CRT-5826Күн бұрын
It can't be said enough how thankful I am these guys kept quiet, did the work, and released something more or less complete. I think we saw this was coming, but instead of looking at screenshots of what could have been you can just go play the mod right now. Respect.
@rarebrockstark621912 сағат бұрын
This had BETTER mean GTA IV The Definitive Edition. If it doesn't, I'm gonna eat all of Rockstar's cheese
@jytvrealКүн бұрын
Before definitive edition release they were taking down mods for GTA 3 VC and SA so maybe they’re doing something with GTA 4 soon
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
Unless they used GTA 4 assets in GTA 6, doubt it. The issue with Nicko Bellic's voice actor alone would not make it possible, because they would need his permission to reuse his content and he is PO'ed at Rockstar shorting him money.
@wastoxic17 сағат бұрын
The difference is that as far as im aware those projects existed for quite some time before being taken down but this is taken down in less than a month
@Knaeckebrotsaege15 сағат бұрын
Wishful thinking. GTA IV is something they don't want to touch for whatever reason. It wasn't even worth a tweet on the 15th anniversary to them, so what makes you think they're gonna do something with it now? Especially with all the actual talent responsible for prior titles being DEI'd out of the company in recent years. Look at what weirdos and brainrotted individuals now work for rockstar or somehow weaseled their way into management positions. says it all
@southside1970.14 сағат бұрын
@@MrWolfSnack But CJs voice actor also has problems with Rockstar, and they still released Definitive edition, how did they do that then?
@yousifassar427513 сағат бұрын
@@MrWolfSnackthat’s not how it works. Rockstar fully owns everything they make. Actors may get royalties but that’s it, and Rockstar keeps the rights to everything else.. they recently released an RDR1 port and I highly doubt they asked John’s VA to rerelease the game.
@justaloadofashКүн бұрын
Bethesda: Hi modders, feel free to make large-scale mods (fallout london) Rockstar: we will sue you if you don't take down these mods.
@DenkmaldrubernachtКүн бұрын
To be fair, fallout mods don't rip content from other their other games. For example, tales of two wastelands needs a proven copy of new Vegas and fallout 3 to be able to put the worlds together to avoid legal issues
@KharonYTКүн бұрын
@@Denkmaldrubernacht Yea except the fact Take2 have also sent DMCA to mods that required you to rip your own assets. They don't give a fuck about the actual assets just hate modding as a whole. Remember, as long as you're modding you're not buying sharkcards
@Gonzas97Күн бұрын
At this point not even bethesda fans care about bethesda.
@WELSHGAMER99Күн бұрын
Look at Valve They allow mods that use their assets to be sold on their very storefront On top of that they would even hire the modders
@MiguelAguasvivass23 сағат бұрын
The conversation was a mutual agreement, not a threat to the modders. Stop spreading misinformation.
@lylerivas9647Күн бұрын
Modders and programmers who work on GTA mods should just give take-two the middle finger and make their own GTA3/PS2 style open world indie games with mod support. They'd be a massive undertaking, and won't be as expansive and realistic looking as their inspiration, but at least a few of them could become a nice option for people tired the lack of GTA alternatives (R.I.P Sleeping Dogs, True Crime & pre-third Saint's Row)
@xXxKAMIKAZExXx23 сағат бұрын
I'd honestly love another game like Vice City and San Andreas where the graphics and physics aren't all that, but the gameplay and content is just fun. I felt like Saints Row 2 benefitted a lot by doing that. Having mod support right away would get so many people on board too.
@yousifassar427513 сағат бұрын
I mean good luck with that. Making GTA style open world games isn’t easy. Where are they gonna get the budget to hire voice actors too?
@K3rhos7 сағат бұрын
But you don't realize the work behind a 3D open world like GTA, it's not just a matter of graphics, physics, and features, you need voice actors, you need a story, you need a soundtrack (so you need musician) etc... And no, that's not with AI that you will make a good soundtrack and voice acting. Creating a GTA game doesn't just require coding skills ! As a modder myself I would have already release my own GTA on Steam if that was the case !
@Kilo1158Күн бұрын
Anyone who thought Rockstar would let them keep it up is fooling themselves. I'm surprised they didn't take it down sooner like they usually do for other things.
@WELSHGAMER99Күн бұрын
It was bound to happen tbh We all love Rockstar but their relationship with the modding community is abysmal. I just hope they won't get to Stars and Stripes
@Yeetb0i23 сағат бұрын
Since they took down the Underground mod in the past years, there is a chance that they might do the same if they catch the wind of it, sadly.
@WELSHGAMER9915 сағат бұрын
@@Yeetb0i Lets hope Stars and Stripes doesn't get noticed then
@captainfreedom364915 сағат бұрын
@@WELSHGAMER99 Stars and Stripes devs are outside of cockstar's "jurisdiction", I think they live in Russia and Brazil. There is just no way they can threaten you with legal action in any of those countries.
@mijofalco6355Күн бұрын
This parking lot you enter at 4:30. I have played gta 4 a bajillion times, and I have never ever been to this area. I never even knew it existed.
@SenhorKoringa22 сағат бұрын
Me neither, one of those areas never used for a mission and kind of out of the way too.
@OneEyedKing17 сағат бұрын
Lol same it’s kind of not expected route to take as you’re taking the main highway next to it
@imkirbo309415 сағат бұрын
Everyone: "I hate Rockstar games" Everyone: "Let me give Rockstar even more of my money to validify their negative actions"
@Jacob006014 сағат бұрын
Average gta 6 buyer right here.
@MatWilson2612Күн бұрын
Yeah I ain't buying GTA 6 now - not giving them another cent. I'll just wait for PC and obtain it.
@Andre-by4su14 сағат бұрын
Yes you will. All of us will, and they know it. Someone need to step up and create a better GTA clone.
@RobertT199910 сағат бұрын
@@Andre-by4suLet's make note of the fact Mat used the word "obtain" and not "buy". I guess that's at least one way of stepping it up even if it isn't creating a competitor.
@tritekk16 сағат бұрын
"after hot coffee they took a hardline stance against modding" I remember when GTA 4 main menu on pc still had working online social club features and rockstar would feature fan made rockstar editor videos with heavily modded content, i distinctly remember an iron man mod video being there it all started with gta online imo but I also could've been young enough to just not notice projects getting dmca'd
@DJBLVZD5 сағат бұрын
I’m honestly surprised the mod lasted as long as it did.
@SHDW-nf2kiКүн бұрын
I gotta ask why they felt they needed to promote this mod before they finished it lmao what did they expect to happen?
@garrysmith1029Күн бұрын
That's what I want to know
@KharonYT23 сағат бұрын
Probably because it's in such state that it was ready for public release? Think for a second, you don't think 6 or so years was enough time them keeping this mod private?
@user_666_21 сағат бұрын
imo they should've added everything they wanted to add then make it public so at least the archived builds have the finished project
@maestromuten612019 сағат бұрын
I would love so much for Rockstar to fail. I've grown sick of their antics. Right now they are offering basically nothing to the industry and they lose their time bullying their own fans, while taking more than a decade to put out a new major installment in their major franchise and failing in remastering their own fucking games.
@reliablepainter2495Күн бұрын
Staying in the dark about the development of the mod was definitely the right move. Now that it's published it will (most likely) always exist through backups online. I still remember when the OpenIV team announced their Liberty City port and how they got stopped before they were even able to put out anything more than a trailer.
@squabbbb13 сағат бұрын
Called it. Luckily its a torrent file so it should still be around for people who know where to look, but these devs keep handing over their phone numbers and projects to discord for a few months of playing king of the rejects and it leaves them massively vulnerable. People need to get their work off discord and start hosting sites in places where its alot harder to get stuff taken down.
@iplyrunescape3053 сағат бұрын
most of all, they should just stay shut until they finish and release the project.
@tangerinedream8987Күн бұрын
Rockstar used to be cool and laidback yet put so much effort into their games, and make them extrememly detailed yet make them super controversial, now their super uptight. Thanks Take2.
@MiguelAguasvivass23 сағат бұрын
They are still the same company. Look at RDR2 as an example.
@Yeetb0i23 сағат бұрын
@@MiguelAguasvivass No, they're not. They kinda still are, they still make great games, but if you create any big mods for the games, they will DMA your ass to hell if it comes to their attention, just like they did with the Underground mod and this one, which was not the case in the past.
@KNINESVIDS22 сағат бұрын
Dan Houser and Lazlow (the 2 major writers) left after rdr2... They have a strong enough foundation for the IPs but they're gonna burn it all 😭
@Kacpa219 сағат бұрын
@@MiguelAguasvivass RDR2 was made nearly 10 years ago when Dan Houser and Lazlow were still there and writing the games and mext grm version of gta 5 just released not too long prior. Its not the same.
@wastoxic16 сағат бұрын
@@MiguelAguasvivassmost of people who worked at rdr2 are gone from rockstar
@BrPereraКүн бұрын
It's probably music what caused the takedown . They can't use tracks without licensing them but again they weren't profiting off of it.
@sharp14x20 сағат бұрын
The music is irrelevant. Mods exist that restore the music and have been untouched. It's because the mod reproduces the entire GTA IV map, which is their intellectual property.
@GTA5Player111 сағат бұрын
@@sharp14x So in other words, Rockstar is to blame.
@kylen84738 сағат бұрын
Wishful thinking. Rockstar ain't doing anything with GTA 4. They couldn't even get remasters of PS2 games right
@Commanderbox918Күн бұрын
I would love to think that Rockstar took down the mod in preparation for an upcoming port of Gta 4 in the new consoles, but still it sucks that a passionate project like this gets taken down, imagine the hardwork that must have been in order to port the map of 4 into 5s.
@indientis600313 сағат бұрын
My gut feeling tells me tha tthe would be releasing the definitive edition of GTA 4 before GTA 6, but only because of what they just did - taking down good quality mods from people who are actually caring about the game. I have a feeling that they will release GTA 4 definitive edition (of course it's experience will be pure shit) as an excuse to keep the fanbase entertained for longer while they keep working on GTA 6, which i hope they know what they're doing and will actually take the time to create a story, but as we can see in front of our eyes - corporate greed is clearly a huge problem at this company and it's not stopping any time soon (business side, it's perfect, but from the view of the consumer, it's a disaster)
@GTA5Player111 сағат бұрын
They did something similar years ago and didn't release a GTA 4 remaster
@joshy1145Күн бұрын
It's so sad to me how little excitement I felt hearing this mod come out, knowing that in a day or two Take-Two rip if offline. The sheer "I knew it" when the first report I saw came of the mod going down had me levitating.
@Pirangunter21Күн бұрын
A lot of ppl suspecting Liberty City dlc in GTA V but I don't think thats the case since TakeTwo already been done this stuff in the past
@MelvinThe12323 сағат бұрын
Lol
@Bambusbjoern291217 сағат бұрын
What? Why do people think that of the last years of online being low effort garbage?
@calebproductions12646 сағат бұрын
I mean they couldn’t even bother to give us north yankton to roam around in story mode or even do it properly in online.
@alp917316 сағат бұрын
we expected this to happen before it was even released
@XMB4523 сағат бұрын
I don't understand why a game company would be able to legally take down fan made mods if they're non-profit projects? I'm not aware of any other company taking mods down.
@Yeetb0i23 сағат бұрын
Nintendo also does it for fan made projects too.
@Warcriminal-1998320 сағат бұрын
their game engine their assets
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
Copyright law. Literally first lines of the EULA you have to agree to. "It is illegal to reproduce this game in part or in whole"
@GTA5Player111 сағат бұрын
I understand it legally. I just don't understand it logically, why they would choose to do it.
@hanselvogis51425 сағат бұрын
Rockstar Games believes in reasonable fan creativity and wants creators to showcase their passion for our games. After discussions with Take-Two, Take-Two has agreed that it generally will not take legal action against third-party projects involving Rockstar’s PC games that are single-player, non-commercial, and respect the intellectual property (IP) rights of third parties. This does not apply to (i) multiplayer or online services; (ii) tools, files, libraries, or functions that could be used to impact multiplayer or online services, or (iii) use or importation of other IP (including other Rockstar IP) in the project; or (iv) making new games, stories, missions, or maps. This is not a license, and it does not constitute endorsement, approval, or authorization of any third-party project. Take-Two reserves the right to object to any third-party project, or to revise, revoke and/or withdraw this statement at any time in their own discretion. This statement does not constitute a waiver of any rights that Take-Two may have with respect to third-party projects. Simply don't use IP.
@oler777Күн бұрын
Why can't we just have fun? This is why we can't have nice things rockstar.
@RetroGamingPub23 сағат бұрын
"This is a friendly takedown" Blink twice if you're in trouble.... Such a shame this project had to come to an end. I get why as its their assets, but cmon... We are trying to keep the legacy alive. I'm guessing they have something up their sleeve with GTA IV we don't know about.
@Knaeckebrotsaege15 сағат бұрын
IV is the game they don't want to mention, let alone do anything with. Quite literally the "he who shall not be named" situation. It wasn't even worth a tweet to them on the 15th anniversary, which is just sad
@gbl08maКүн бұрын
The most glaring issue that crossed my mind as I installed this genuinely fantastic mod was, "damn, that's 30 GB of assets that I wouldn't be legitimately entitled to experiencing, if I didn't own GTA IV." And on top, all the (not) licensed songs from IV were included too - I can imagine Rockstar lawyers and leadership just not having it, with how complete the pack was (a large part of what made it great). Considering how good they are at removing licensed music from their older games years after release, it shows that they probably don't have a lot of leeway from the music licensors, and they might not want to get in hot water/coffee for second-hand infringements (and yes, I know that mods to restore the radios exist, but nobody's ever done viral videos or streams on them specifically...). Regardless of whether Rockstar themselves have plans to revisit Liberty City at some point too, and even if they don't have such plans right now, I imagine their corporate conservatism mandates that mods like these be not left alone, just in case they would represent a minuscule form of competition. Let's just hope that independent, non-Rockstar-sanctioned mods of any kind can continue to be technically and practically feasible in VI.
@MeadeJ6722 сағат бұрын
But it has nothing to do with them, people have been modding the music back into their classic games for years now, so I don't buy that for a second. If it was a legitimate legal issue they would have squashed it a LONG time ago. The only thing that matters is that THEY don't sell the product with unlicensed content in it. What the consumer does after they purchase it isn't legally R* or T2's problem... They can't be held responsible... People mod in licensed cars & have been for as long as GTA has been around, so again, I'm not buying that for one second... Also, that "30 GB of assets you aren't legitimately entitled to" are 17 years old & being left to rot. The only reason they see it as an issue is because they are GREEDY. It's that simple. They will sell you a broken port of GTA IV so that you can "legitimately" get that content & somehow that's okay. It's okay for them to sell a product that doesn't even work, but it's not okay for us to port content from that game into an engine that does? Stop defending corporate greed, get your head out of the sand... I bet you would defend having to pay a subscription for clean, breathable air...
@Yourcheerz20 сағат бұрын
@@MeadeJ67yea! They did totally nothing from 2008 releaae but remove content XD GTA 4 is still unplayable without 100 fan made fixes, and they atill try to sell it without giving a single fuck. They turned into greedy j€w$
@trainee547119 сағат бұрын
Wait, so it was genuinely 30 GB of Rockstar assets? I mean, there are ways you can create such a mod without distributing Rockstar's assets - make the mod installer require that GTA 4 is already installed on the machine and copy the assets from that installation.
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
@@MeadeJ67 The issue always boils down to people are making money off the mods, and people are redistributing copyrighted content. That is a crime, always has been.
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
@@trainee5471 That's how Garry's Mod works and why it was never in violation.You had to buy all the games beforehand, the mod just made it so you could pull those assets from those games and play with them and create content and maps. Because everything was legally paid for there was no discourse about rights.
@SkydrawnIV22 сағат бұрын
Rockstar have honestly ruined my opinion of them. Up until 2014, I thought the world of them - but since then, it's just been letdown after letdown.
@enything200023 сағат бұрын
I remember back in 2017 when I was considering boycotting R* Games when Take Two Interactive were trying to remove the use of mods from the GTA Games namely being GTA IV and V due to them supposedly wanting to shutdown the OpenIV app used for modding GTA IV and V because apparently someone was somehow able to manipulate it into being used in GTA Online but I can't see how people could do that at the time so during that small time period when people couldn't mod the game due to a dispute with the OpenIV team (this also was right around the time that the OpenIV team's Liberty City conversion mod got DMCA'd) I completely stopped playing GTA even online,I stopped playing for a while and people were review bombing the game as a result and I think eventually R* and Take Two went back on the shutdown of the OpenIV software due to all the negative press they were receiving for the inability to mod GTA V at that point. Now with all that being said this makes me feel so sad I almost want to consider boycotting R* Games again due to their poor choices that they make nowadays (Grand Theft Auto Trilogy Definitive Edition, RDR1 port for the PS4 and Switch, GTA+ and more mod takedowns)
@K3rhos7 сағат бұрын
Actually yes you could use OpenIV in GTA Online, but not officially, that required some workaround to get it work, but anyway OpenIV was game files modifications so it doesn't really offer a way to "cheat" into the game, it was mostly car replacements or graphics mods that I was using personally ! So T2 had no reason to take down OpenIV tbh.
@thesis434916 сағат бұрын
"No legtitimate way to download it" = It's there, you can have it but you gonna need to work a bit.
@EnglishBruv11 сағат бұрын
Community: makes gta IV remaster T2 and Rockstar: we aint gonna make gta IV remastered but CEASE AND DESIST!
@MariosTabajen17 сағат бұрын
That it I call BOYCOTT SHARKCARDS !
@duckfromthebackyard992116 сағат бұрын
ok
@moonbowplushieКүн бұрын
We're gonna get a new heist in Liberty City, they'll give us ~8 streets to play around with :)
@arbrys581Күн бұрын
atp im not buying gta 6. the reason why rockstar is brave enough to treat their community like scmbag is bcz they believe ppl are still going to buy their products in the end.
@RomanBellic-ez5fh21 сағат бұрын
True, but they will. I mean, they already do this with cod and sports game that are copy and paste garbage every year. Now think of that with a game such as Gta. T2 knows its potential and it doesn’t fucking care.
@maacha28619 сағат бұрын
Gta 6 will be woker than me at 4am
@GTA5Player111 сағат бұрын
@@RomanBellic-ez5fh But that doesn't mean you just give up!
@tikalthewhimsicott273610 сағат бұрын
@maacha286 If GTA 6 was going to be woke, then why would they pay tribute to a straight white man like Tom Petty by using one of his songs in the trailer and having a Petty Forever sticker on one of doors of a gas station.
@RomanBellic-ez5fh9 сағат бұрын
@@GTA5Player1 You can interpret that way, maybe I accidentally implied that, but I never meant to give up. Just saying that if you do protest you’re very little minority and that people will struggle a lot to just not buy the game they’ve been waiting for more than 10 years. Gathering a movement to boycott Rockstar is very hard to pull off.
@ajjanosiКүн бұрын
I think Muta had it right when he mentioned the music the added along with the mod. If the music wasn’t a big deal, Rockstar themselves wouldn’t have bothered making patches to remove the music once those licenses ran out.
@Stryker734919 сағат бұрын
Makes no sense to me. Stop advertising these big mods that developers could see as a "threat" until they're done and ready to release in full. KEEP YOUR PROJECTS A SECRET.
@StinkyremyКүн бұрын
In case anyone did not know. GTA6 leaks have indicated that GTA6 will take place in multiple cities, not just vice city and upstate (NYC) liberty city will be in the game, so might mean they actually have LC in the game. Highly unlikely though. Never know though, seeing R* patented that server tech with multiple integrated servers via grids but have not implemented it in a game yet. Which means they patented it for GTA6. If LC is in the game we could actually see all 3 cities being integrated into GTAO at some point.
@garrysmith1029Күн бұрын
I'm not surprised it got taken down
@BOXER53Күн бұрын
0:18 I don't believe that at all not one bit
@Crazytrain201519 сағат бұрын
I am a member of the World Travel Discord server and unfortunately they had to take down the mod after discussing with Rockstar Games. After that news broke out there, people started sharing the mods to the members, but the mods had to remove those messages. I have the mod, both standard and HD, plus for FiveM. So I'm lucky that I got the chance to download it before it was too late.
@BOXER5319 сағат бұрын
@Crazytrain2015 that's good we can't let this greedy company win
@brandonsimonciniКүн бұрын
Whelp, luckily anything on the current internet never truly disappear
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
Actually it can. I have about 20 twitter bookmarks of stuff I made note of that I needed to download and they are deleted before I could and I can not find the posts elsewhere in any archives .
@GTA5Player111 сағат бұрын
And my Rockstar BOYCOTT continues
@Matt_19-8915 сағат бұрын
And this is one of the main reasons why I'm never ever going to buy a game of theirs on day one ever again
@LighthouseCape15 сағат бұрын
At least, the World Travel team gave us a full accessible mod so we can explore the map without restrictions. It's small but still a victory... Now, all we can do is hope that R* is lazy enough to not patch the game for a while, so that we can use the mod without any errors...
@Mark-uk8wz15 сағат бұрын
You can always roll back the game if you have to. GTA 4 for example is pretty much only moddable when rolled back
@LighthouseCape14 сағат бұрын
@@Mark-uk8wz Yeah, I know...but as long as you don't need to take extra step, just to play with the mod, it's always better that way. So I'm still hoping for it to last longer, even for a day...
@chibisayori2014 сағат бұрын
@@Mark-uk8wz IV only had a handful of versions to by, V has FUCK ton of it, making downgrades impossible to keep track of, why do you think scripthook updates constantly? Even then, you can't download previous version of Scripthook, all of those core mods are on the recent version
@jimphaldiahanwashcanzarqui1039Күн бұрын
I was lucky enough to obtain a copy before the mod was taken down. Such a shame others won’t be able to experience this. Cheers to the team who worked for 6 years to distribute this mod for free.
@Zorklis15 сағат бұрын
or you know it was all those RADIO STATIONS that came with the mod. I'm sure music labels LOVED that and definitely kept it quiet to R*
@GTA5Player111 сағат бұрын
If that was the case, they could've just asked the team to remove them
@whatsfordinner6213 сағат бұрын
GTA6 should have the older maps remastered and imported in as spaces you could fly to or take a train to or something. It could be the largest GTA with the main story taking place primarily in the new Florida environment but maybe having post story content in the other maps or having the online mode allow you to choose which city you want to spawn in at.
@Ivan-M13 сағат бұрын
GG ambitious GTA V mod, kicking hard the Take-Two balls
@Iroquois_Pliskin10 сағат бұрын
*surprised pikachu*
@conorjohn4905 сағат бұрын
This is the company that patched the hangar speed glitch in 3 days but took 5 days to even acknowledge the RCE attacks of Jan '23.
@cymaratechoverdragon13 сағат бұрын
Remember that whole 'change in corporate culture' that resulted in all the top brass resigning? Yeah, this is the result.
@monstersponge909617 сағат бұрын
Files are on internet archive from what I've seen, download times are egregious but if people are desperate enough.
@johnny580523 сағат бұрын
I was because they took the GTA 4 music across too. The licenses for those songs specifically only allows hem to be used to GTA 4. Rockstar did the modders a favour, because you definitely don't want the ruthless Music Publishing industry after you.
@sharp14x20 сағат бұрын
No, it's because it reproduces their entire GTA IV map, which is their intellectual property.
@HeySlickThatsMe16 сағат бұрын
There's several released radio mods that port radios from GTA IV including custom radios with copyrighted music and those have been up for years
@STRAWBERRYMoiКүн бұрын
We got GTA 5 liberty city Mod takedown before GTA 6.😂
@BOXER53Күн бұрын
That was never funny shut up
@diodacbd14 сағат бұрын
hilarious and original
@MilesProwerTailsFox22 сағат бұрын
I mean, rockstar tends to take down mods that could replace stuff they are going to release, not because of assets that's for sure because there are many mods in itch io where you download a pirated version of the game entirely with a mod that adds random crap like among us characters and shit, only thing i can think of rn is the project americas, what if the project americas wasn't gta 6 campaign BUT the online version? That would mean rockstar is still planning on releasing a game with several maps
@Babyotter10015 сағат бұрын
Zero point in making these mods and wasting years of your life, you can predict this.
@Maske418 минут бұрын
don't worry badger, we will get a beautiful gta iv "remaster" done in unreal stutter 5 with dlss on maximum performance, frame generation so you can have stable 60 fps and a blurry af image quality
@_MyNameIsAJ_15 сағат бұрын
Modern Rockstar is a shell of its former self
@AJK1569 сағат бұрын
Ive never seen a bigger labor of love than this mod. So much respect for the devs, everything was done perfectly. Rockstar doesnt needs us og fans anymore and its just sad
@elkyubi4281Сағат бұрын
Addressing the argument point on the radio stations could have been one big reason. The music industry is known for the greedy corporate use of rights in their material .
@XxPhantomxX745621 сағат бұрын
We are not fans of rockstar, we are fans of the good devs who work there
@taffydownsyndrome10 сағат бұрын
rockstar is the ccp in gaming companies
@Flutterwhat18 сағат бұрын
Rockstar doesn't deserve the love the community gives it.
@RAFA120HOJAZ11 сағат бұрын
I agree, wait a second, I feel like I've seen you before LOL
@earthlyvibes2312 сағат бұрын
Crazy Coincidence is that I was playing offline mode drifting this same car a few minutes ago and a random event appeared and it was a man with a car that was broke down and asked me if I can drop himk at the airport. The man said he works in finance in Algonquin which is GTAV. It kin da hit me that we were meant to visit GTAV map via a DLC.
@harveybrooks259710 сағат бұрын
We own a copy of GTA4. We own a copy of GTA5. But don't you dare try to mod those assets together or Take-Two will send the boys round to break your fingers.
@hanselvogis51425 сағат бұрын
Yeah, but this mod doesn't require GTA4.
@harveybrooks25974 сағат бұрын
@@hanselvogis5142 It still makes my point because even if people didn't own GTA4, Take-Two aren't hemorrhaging money from lost sales on a 17 year old game. GTA4 is out of the picture and this doesn't affect GTA5 sales. It's pathetic.
@hanselvogis51424 сағат бұрын
@ GTA4 is definitely not an abandonware. I wouldn't consider it too old a game or whatever. Still a game that would hold up even by to today's standards.
@harveybrooks25973 сағат бұрын
@ That's not what I mean.
@raziel24588 сағат бұрын
"Friendly takedown" You better tell them that... or else.
@cloudyspeed22 сағат бұрын
Being part of this community is cool and inspiring yet so devastating
@ZorvaineVonSinius17 сағат бұрын
Loved the ending of you drifting the car to pose by the sunset
@Jared_Wignall16 сағат бұрын
It’s quite clear Rockstar at this point isn’t fond of GTA IV. That game is more dark in tone, while GTA V is more light in comparison. Also GTA V sold more copies than GTA IV, so on that note GTA IV doesn’t look to be as profitable in their eyes, even though fans love GTA IV and the characters in that game. I’ve seen some speculate of a remaster for GTA IV coming and that’s why they keep taking stuff like this down whenever fans make something GTA IV related with GTA V, but if that was the case, then why wouldn’t they say anything for GTA IV’s 10th or 15th Anniversaries? Rockstar is silent on GTA IV, but it seems like they’ll acknowledge other GTA games no problem. It’s sad honestly.
@OrgusDin15 сағат бұрын
I never even bothered playing 5 after I saw they took the GTAIV physics and ruined them, literally just make GTAIV with as much content as San Andreas but they made some tacky and inferior crap instead.
@crestofhonor23497 сағат бұрын
I think Rockstar just hates the PC. The PC version still lacks the ray tracing features added to the PS5 and Xbox Series X versions and they have notoriously have always released the PC version later despite them fully having the resources to do day 1 on both
@benwilliams549219 сағат бұрын
If it was a friendly takedown, I wonder if that’s because something is in the works? I say that with a pinch of salt.
@wastoxic16 сағат бұрын
Most likely copium but you could be right
@Nasrul260Күн бұрын
"This isn't a DMCA, rather a friendly takedown, mutually agreed upon by all parties involved. There is no negativity between us and Rockstar." Rockstar & Take2's laywers were breathing down his neck when he typed that...
@frydaynightlive16 сағат бұрын
I used to be a rockstar fanboy since GTA3 was released....but since RDR2 they f*cked everything up they could.....disgusting behaviour
@TetsuyukiClipsСағат бұрын
Mentioning GTA Underground, yeah that project was pretty ambitious. It sucks to hear what they've done to GTA Underground is happening again to this mod
@SpicyMexicanSauce23 сағат бұрын
The discord server got raided for trolls at midnight then rockstar came in few hours later. weird it happen on the same day
@MrWolfSnack19 сағат бұрын
Someone snitched. It was a planned attack. Whoever did it knew when the Rockstar legal team would be awake and clock into work to issue the summons.
@ClassicShockerКүн бұрын
If the entire community just posts lots of negative reviews on every product that rockstar and Take Two are involved with they might retract this "friendly takedown" I mean hey it got them to leave OpenIV alone.
@JackStavris17 сағат бұрын
This is a shame, I never got to try this out as my gaming PC is currently out of commission. Hopefully I can find a clean unofficial download since I still really want to try this mod out.
@Coolcmuk5 сағат бұрын
This literally happened in 2017, and a few months later, if I remember right, Take-Two tried to make modding GTA a crime. the only difference is this project didn't get canceled before it's release
@kenjamago3977Күн бұрын
Not surprising for this kind of project to be immediately taken down not even a month after released considering R* & Take2 are completely against ANY kind of map ports between their games Honestly these kind of project should've been kept under the radar/underground away from too many unwanted attentions unless if you want Take2/R* to send someone at your doorsteps
@moodmusicytc10 сағат бұрын
I really hope they got told a good remaster is on the way under NDA And that their work will be included and maybe credited/paid for
@clarkesuperman17 сағат бұрын
I think it got taken down for two reasons: 1. The radio stations were included so the licensed music would have caused serious issues 2. Rockstar still sells GTA IV as a product. This project would directly cut into their “profits”
@JJSstudio520 сағат бұрын
I think valve is the gold standard when it comes to modding because they wouldn’t even get involved if this was their game
@robertbrunello13 сағат бұрын
Hopefully this just means Rockstar is remastering GTA4.
@trustamaninavan329918 сағат бұрын
Good thing I still have GTA Underground on my PC, I didn't know it was taken down
@RSNJA22 сағат бұрын
"Maybe they're still planning on doing something with the Liberty City Map" with that reasoning maybe they're going to do something with that 65% game save they took down.
@Exoterrestrial17 сағат бұрын
The community needs to make an effort to keep these things from blowing up to the larger gaming channels and news outlets because this is a story as old as when Nintendo started aggressively pursuing Pokemon romhacks, it's so disheartening seeing people put hour, months, or even years of their life to making projects like these just for them to taken down in a matter of moments, yes we can be upset at Rockstar but we already know how they're going to respond every time because of the precedent they have set with other projects like this, I wish they gave modders all the support possible but we know they won't so we have to take the proper action ourselves to keep these things from happening because expecting the billion dollar corporation to care is fruitless
@LHGaming257 сағат бұрын
Imagine a universe where Rockstar fully supported the modding community like Bethesda or CDPR We would probably have so many GTA spinoff titles by now or even story DLCs and new missions for older GTA games . It would have been my video game Dreamland.