Baikals are good?

[@Большаяперемена-о6в]

😊 Добрый день . Я из России. Посмотрев ваше видео я передумал покупать АТА - СП. Турция. У меня раньше было такое ружьë иж-27. Хочу приобрести в пластике. Спасибо. Ружьë это труба главное глаз и патрон. Так сказал старый еврей.

[@Yorkshire-Frank]

I paid £40 for my Baikal, double trigger fixed choke. Had plenty of good days on the woodies and corvids. Still own it and still comes out of the cabinet.

[@jasonbuck489]

I'll pass on giving my hard earned American Dollars to a Turkish Gun Maker and a Muslim, Islamist ran Country... I'm good on that!... Nope!

[@madgeordie4469]

I have two of these and have been using them for over five years. They are incredibly tough and almost impossible to break. If you want a basic shotgun for general purposes which will take years of abuse and never let you down, you cannot do better than a Baikal.

[@galwaytribesman9289]

Baikals are tough and reliable. I can't fault them. Good ol guns

[@jamesdean5418]

Be careful David.... You'll be working the camera soon 🤣🤣

[@garyK.45ACP]

My wife uses an O/U shotgun made by Baikal, but marketed here in the USA at one time as the Remington Spartan 310. Stainless steel receiver, ported barrels, screw in choke tubes. The Model 310 was marketed as the "target" version of the gun and has nicer wood (nothing fancy, but not bad at all) She has been using it for clays shooting since about 2008 and it has never malfunctioned or been a problem. I paid $400 for the gun in 2008. I added a full set of extended choke tubes (cyl. skeet, skeet, I. cyl., Lt. Mod., Mod., I. Mod. and Full), it uses a common thread pattern and chokes are easy to get. The 8 choke tubes rivaled the price of the gun. So, do give that some consideration. My only criticisms...it is a 20 gauge built on a 12 gauge frame, so it tends to be a bit heavy for a 20 gauge. She likes it though, less recoil and better follow through than her much slimmer and lighter Ruger Red Label 20 gauge. The Red Label is an older model (1983) with fixed skeet/skeet chokes, which she uses for skeet. The shorter stock works for her as she is 5'-3" tall. I had the stock of the Red Label shortened for her. The barrel selector of the Baikal is a bit strange. I'm glad you covered that. It defaults to the lower barrel first. You select the the upper barrel first by pressing forward on the single trigger. Works fine, but you have to remember that each time you fire or open the gun you have to press the trigger forward again. If you are at a station with incomers for a second target and have several doubles to shoot at that station, you have to remember to set the trigger. OR put the more open choke in the top barrel for that station.

[@MKChase-uj9vx]

Well done fella; not at all bad... relax and enjoy. The little history intro was also nicely researched and presented. The only thing missing from this video was the crackpipe smoking comedy oneliners that David normally manages to inadvertently work into each of his forays infront of the lense. 👍

[@tonymorgan3526]

Great video, who hasn't owned a baikal?? Hey I've had 3 of them, never ever let me down once, if you grew up in the 80s, with not much money, it was your go to gun!!!! 🔫🔫🔫👍

[@debkerslake8711]

Well done mate. Great first show.

[@qazibarakallah9633]

gun that can work for 200 years.

[@damienjenkins4492]

Got mine for fifty quid - built like a tank and stamped MADE IN THE USSR underneath - double trigger non ejector

[@jonnyfications]

Well done, nice video with plenty of info. Good to see your shooting coming along 👌

[@frankgarrett2517]

Bought a baikal 20 gauge over under here in the us at a pawn shop for 250 usd for my wife’s birthday. She’s a horrible trap shooter but she loves to shoot it. Hates Winchester ammo but loves fiocchi which I have a pallet of. Great gun

[@donaldmcleod7494]

The stock is a bit short to accommodate wearing a winter coat. Yes they are the best value for the money.

[@markwhite9560]

my first ever gun was a s/s baikal wouldn’t change it for the world an if i ever did but a 2nd it would also be a baikal

[@johnh8197]

Great video!! I owned one very similar to the one you are reviewing. Although it was several years ago I thought that it shot very well. I didn’t see much need for a recoil pad either. I would shoot on average of 200 round per range day. But, your comments are the reason why I sold it. I am taller and slimmer and it didn’t fit me the best in the world. When using it I would just change my shooting style to bust clays.

[@BigDozer60]

Hey Dude!!! Cool video, thanks for taking the time to do it on the Baikal O/U. I recently purchased one of the Baikal O/U models and it's somewhat different than the one that you're using here but I found something on the model that I purchased, that I didn't know about so I'll add it here and maybe someone can use it themselves? But first, my experience with my O/U has been nothing but positive so far. It shoots dead on, I find it well balanced and even though I'm a big guy, at 6'6" and 280lbs and have recently retired from Law Enforcement which I've had several years of firearms training for a "specialty" group of emergency cops who are called when certain high risk situations that sometimes require a long distance shot to end a situation. So, I do have a lot of firearm knowledge under my belt. With saying that, many years back the Baikal line-up wasn't very impressive, if I remember correctly, but they certainly have come a long way since the late 70's - early 80's, I feel? But anyway, I was recently looking for a "meat & potatoes" shotgun to keep with me on my tractor as I work my hobby farm in Montana. I was looking for an inexpensive O/U or a SxS coach gun style and if I couldn't find one then I'd buy a full size shotgun and have my brother, who's a gunsmith, zip the barrels down to 18" and do a proper clean up afterwards, meaning filling in the gap in between the barrels, that happens when you shorten either a SxS or an O/U shotgun and then add a white ivory bead to it and also add removeable chokes to it as well, just for fun, since my cost would be free other than buying the choke tubes. I found one at an estate sale than I paid $200 for and it's in very nice condition as well and I will agree with you that it's certainly nothing fancy but it is far nicer than I expected it to be. The engraving is pretty much as you describe. Mine has, what looks like a rabbit on one side and maybe a squirrel on the other side of the breech and on the bottom there's a small scrollwork design on one end with the model number on the other, which is a backwards (N) then a (star) shape with a (- 27E) and under than it's stamped with MADE IN THE USSR. It is a 12 Gauge and also has double triggers. I've used it several times on critters and playing around with clays out on my property and it shoots very well and does an excellent job of hitting what I'm aiming at, even in it's shortened condition, plus it's sort of cool looking to me, but that's my own personal love for short barrelled shotguns...Hahahaha...I also agree with you regarding the wood. It's NOT terrible but what do you want for $200 right? The L.O.P. on this model is 15" including the recoil pad and starting the measurement from the front trigger. The bluing is perfect and there wasn't any rust or patina on it when I bought it and there still isn't, even though it pretty much lives on a rifle rack in the big J.D. tractor but I still do take care of it as well,, even though it's a "beater" shotgun. The white ivory front bead is a PLUS for me and I have 2 INDIAN CREEK CHOKE TUBES installed in this shotgun and both are MODIFIED Chokes and the style of these choke tubes make this short O/U shotgun almost give it a MEAN LOOK in its appearance. They are extended choke tubes that have "vents" going all the way around the choke tube. It's hard to describe what they look like but if you Google Indian Creek Choke Tubes you'll see what I mean. My brother thinks that I should stain the wood with black stain to make this thing look really nasty...Hahahaha...and I'll probably do just that with it, just for fun. But overall this shotgun, to me, was worth the $200 and to me it seems to be built like a tank. I have no complaints about it after nearly 6 months of use, which is almost daily I might add. Now for the little surprise that I got after I bought this Baikal N-27E O/U 12 Gauge with Double Triggers was this and I wanted to pass this along to you and maybe a couple of your viewers can use this info as well? When I bought this shotgun I assumed that it had EXTRACTORS but in fact, thanks to my brother who is a gunsmith, this shotgun has AUTO-EJECTORS!!!!!! WTF??? Yes sir, selective auto-ejectors. When you remove the barrels and you're left with the breech and stock in your hand, looking down where the large pin is located that you would "hook" the barrels onto before you close the action, you will see a small slotted screw on each side and all you need to do is turn those screws, I think 180 degrees, and you can engage or disengage the Selective Auto-Ejectors, at least on this model. Maybe you can do it with all of Baikal's models that come from the factory with Selective Auto-Ejectors, I don't know, but certainly it's an option on this model. My point is, when I bought this shotgun, I thought that it had Extractors because the previous owner had shut them off or maybe the came from the factory set up this way, I don't know, but it definitely was an awesome surprise to me to find out that I now have Selective Auto-Ejectors and they work fantastic as well. After you launch the shots or just 1 shot, this shotgun sends both empties or just the one and will leave the non-fired round alone in the shotgun, it will launch the empties a good 10-12 feet behind me!!! Hahahaha....I love it!!! So, maybe this is common knowledge with the Trap & Skeet guys, but I've never heard of it, so I wanted to pass this little bit of info along to you and maybe someone watching this video might have a pleasant surprise waiting for them too??? I know some people don't like Auto-Ejectors, but I love them. I have 2 SxS shotguns that have them and I love using them. The previous owner, who also bought this Baikal O/U Brand New and I know that because I also received the box, manual and original bill of sale for this shotgun when I purchased it. Who knows if he turned them off or if they came turned off? It doesn't matter at this point, I'm just more pleased with this shotgun, now that I have them. Anyway, my apologies for the long post here, I tend to get a little chatty when talking firearms...Lol...Thanks for the great video and I have SUBBED to your channel after I took a look around on it and saw that you have some interesting videos here, so I know I'll enjoy the rest. Take Care!!! :)

[@grahamedwards9920]

That was damn good for a first attempt - a nice blend of other presenters styles - factual and informative and without the creeping tendency of some presenters to include a shed load of personal likes and preferences which I find irritating.

[@glockeva1]

I have the same model...... Mine is a 1989 model that I bought second hand in 2003 for £90. I still own it and have no desire to replace it.

[@esquad5406]

I have a single trap. A side by side and a stack. Low money, High performance.

[@marcveronneau8750]

Sir, I really like your fair appreciation of the BAIKAL you shoot with. You know your stuff, Congratulations. No recoil pad, low stock at the comb and approximativ LOP, whatever the brand, Shooter is more prone to miss targets. Optimal shotgun fit is the green light to start on the right foot... Poor fitting leads to poor gun mount, poor gun control and hesitation. Result = missing the clay. Thank you for your video.

[@Jolly56Roger]

Well all you need is a good kickeez pad and an adjustable comb .and you could shoot for England you smacked most of your targets well done.what more do you want 👍🏻

[@dave_724]

probably the most reliable shotgun in the world from russia with rust as i use to call mine old single barrel i learn to shoot with a 26inch barrelled version the same as the one in the video when i was younger it was a very short keepers gun suited him just fine but use to really beat me up 32g black golds !

[@recklesseric59]

i have always liked these i have 2 early ones i find them brilliant i also have a 686s and a benelli M1 90 but just like to have a go with my Baikles!

[@littlewing7813]

Got my first big game tag filled with a Biakal mp-221 double rifle in 30-06.

[@DouglasPrice-p9q]

... have one in 12 GA/308 win ... never had a single problem with it and it's killed a lot of game ... the rifle barrel was surprisingly accurate ... the demonstrator was denigrating the gun right from the start of the video ... we know it's not a Purdey or a Westley Richards but they are pretty solid guns with decent walnut stocks

[@1987rhys]

Great video and good review of a classic. Very well presented, I look forward to seeing you review more guns.

[@steve.k4735]

I own a Baikal over and under £120, I notice a lot of talk about `looks` like the wood quality and engraving etc, too me its a gun a weapon not something I sit and look and but something that one day I may need to actually use if so I don`t really care what it looks like but I really really really care that it 100% works

[@michaelbellwood2349]

Hello from Australia Thanks for sharing your video

[@graemecave7407]

Well done and nice presentation, also good to have a bit of the history of the company

[@JasonAlexVoorhees]

I think there's a beauty to the roughness of it, kind of like a Webley revolver.

[@stevemueller3705]

You did great! Very professionally presented.

[@gadgetman101]

Well done young man nicely presented (and edited )

[@michal.abramowicz]

I have old iz27. 2 trigger. 1/2 and full choke. No job on internals. Clays are hammered. It is a basic gun which I give to friends. I do not take care about it so much. Clean. Oil. Storage.

[@ИонаддавСуровый]

Hello! This gun has a strong recoil because old guns have a nominal bore diameter of 18.2 mm, hence the very high sharpness and strong recoil.

[@byalaget]

I love my 327. You did a good presentaition.

[@davidbetts480]

Very nice job young man. I have a side by side Bakewell that I got for a £100 and it was had very little use.

[@warrigaljohn]

well done mate. hope we see you again

[@timharvey5591]

Great vid. I've a sxs double trigger baikal.mine is russian walnut.

[@conifergreen2]

I love my Baikals. Well built firearms.

[@iainw189]

Good job by the new presenter!

[@swishswish386]

Great review and an outstanding, beautifully articulated presentation

[@electricianatwork4381]

Κυνηγό to baikal 30" 17 χρόνια το αγόρασα καινούργιο 600 ευρω δεν εχω κανένα πρόβλημα ούτε με πρόδωσε ποτε!!!!

[@elitium-e4e]

i have a mp 27 em double trigger ejector over under

[@MarkHabben]

Have you shot the double rifle mp 221? I’ve just got one in 45/70

[@Cuccos19]

Some Hungarians who used both says that Baikals (well, they are actually IZH here, after Izhevsk Mechanical Plant) are more robust and realible while TOZ shotguns (looks like TO3 with Russian letters - Tula Arms Plant) have much nicer/better, much tighter pattern (yet they are a bit more sophisticated guns and not that robust). The IZH-27 O/U shotgun's ejector prone to break, but not a real problem, you will have an extractor gun than. But you have to accept that it is a tool and not an instrument.

[@pajodato5339]

My Baikal is a shooter and hunter gun. No doubt you can get food in the woods with it. Whoever says a Baikal is a "bad" gun is out of his mind.

[@COLINSCARBOROUGH]

Only two issues with that model, the stock dimensions and the fact that all the metal edges are sharp. A quick pass with a diamond file and all is OK. As you say, bomb proof and good for the money.

[@nikitamckeever5403]

Fair comments pointing out the good and bad . Add a recoil pad and hey presto you’ve still got a basic gun that doesn’t kick as much 😁

[@jamiecollins7794]

Well done keep up the good work.

[@pclarke70]

Well done 👍🏼 A slip on butt pad is a cheap solution to get the stock length right, after all who wants to spend money on getting a proper pad fitted to a £150 gun? 😆

[@jamesgrint1307]

Tsc videos with David are both painful and hilarious this round lad is far more intelligent and far easier to watch!

[@welditmick]

Ideal for hide shooting. They are very low in the comb though.

[@tonyking3500]

My name is Tony King on 1st Naval Tennessee and I have the over and under 20 gauge not brand new made in Russia with a goal trigger and its awesome man I what I take $500 for it

[@sevencolours3281]

Beautiful gun

[@alleycat8483]

Somebody has been practicing , getting better mate..

[@rachidfdl6514]

Bon soir .combien de bar résiste Baïkal mp27em merci

[@mrstuone]

Good review and well presented nearly tempted to go get another gun haha

[@kradikt666]

Im tall and stocky its the best o/u i own its a work horse which is what i want

[@richardtimms8733]

Same old subjects regurgitate around and around on a 6 weekly basis it would seem?

[@lifeshort]

I'm sure they're open to new content suggestions

[@jamesstokes8692]

They are a perfect gun wood is perfect, they are a work gun,

[@buckshotaaa]

Well done youth, you smashed it. A no nonsense presentation of a heap of ****. David could have let you have something better for your first video to review.🙂 I had one back in the 80's and put Baikal Rekord shells through it, now that was an experience 32 g of #6 but in reality there was anything from #4 to #8 in the same load. Every shaped pellet you could imagine, with the exception of what was printed on the box! Anyway, you did a good job.👍

[@richardbrown4294]

Bit disrespectful of IKEA.

[@comodice905]

Bloke top notch gun bucko

[@kevinvajda]

Good video well done

[@kdm6287]

Good review thanks

[@perbacksten6149]

I have one, it just works nu fuzz. Im lazy rakning care of my Guns, but ok they never get dangerous that i check. Baikal is it works, heck yee my primaryly Gun, it works😂

[@dandylion1987]

They are certainly better than most of the Blaser owning 60% shooters I tend to see XD. Not having a go at people with nice guns, it's just it doesn't make you any better

[@bigglesbiggles4999]

Can I ask a question of you ?...what makes you the fount of knowledge when it comes to whether or not the price and quality of a gun influences a person to hit a target be it live quarry or clay pigeon ?

[@dandylion1987]

@@bigglesbiggles4999 yeah sure. Because what makes you good at clays, or anything else , is practice , not having expensive equipment 👍

[@Jolly56Roger]

Yes and don't forget the Vostok Mu8 , world beater in there day i.e. Joe Neville 200 straight skeet I think.

[@bigglesbiggles4999]

@@dandylion1987 I suggest you shoot a round of one hundred clays with a Baikal then again with a gun that is made to fit you and your shooting style and then give me your updates answer

[@dandylion1987]

@@bigglesbiggles4999 ah see, now you're talking about fit, not price 😉. A Baikal fitted will be easier to use than a DT that doesn't fit.

[@TMFShooting]

Very Interesting '' Great Stuff 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[@stevenhogg2535]

No but pad, it recoils quite a bit…….mad up!

[@youcef444youcefyoucef-hu2ru]

Best gun

[@gfhfmf]

These izh-27 guns usually start wobbling after 1500-2000 shots, so you decide how bulletproof they are.

[@michal.abramowicz]

Nope. In 2021 I did 3000 and my iz 27 (double trigger) is not woobling. Yet.

[@gfhfmf]

@@michal.abramowicz Because you do not shoot game loads... Trust me, It's going to do it very soon :)))

[@michal.abramowicz]

@@gfhfmf 24gram 60%. 28gram 30% and 32gram 4mm rest of my time. This gun is cheap. But it works.

[@charlessmith4242]

* When mounting that gun try keeping your head up, and then bring the stock up to your check, instead of bring your cheek down to the stock. You look like you're shooting a rifle and not a shotgun. I can forgive you since that is the way most people shoot today. It's the result of the clay target mentality which rely on how well one tracks a clay target in order to gain a higher score. Since rifle shooters wrap themselves all around their stocks to make their shot as precise as possible, the clay target folks thought that was necessary for their games. I must say that with the exception of double triggers, Baikal's SST system ( if I understand it correctly ) makes the most sense of any SST system for use in a gun used for huntimg. One can operate it while mounting the gun, and one doesn't have to take his eyes off of the bird.

[@GSwton]

mines a 1984 model and still shooting fine

[@tonyking3500]

I thought I have one of those with a go trigger and I'll take $500 for Mike its a 20 gauge get the checks real Barrel night and Russian and Coco Florida and its not

[@thodorispalimarkos5380]

BAIKAL...Από τα πιο τίμια όπλα που υπάρχουν

[@thatonescrambler]

I swear by my Baikal too, I feel bad for home invaders 😂

[@hotchocolate9887]

I want one 😢

[@aslanbosnakoglu8240]

russians have the best steel. better than german. better than english.

[@davidcoldicott8424]

Baikal or boss if it doesn’t fit don’t buy it!!!

[@kakikadi9048]

❤

[@elvinator1047]

Pronounced "ByeCal", you may be the first one to say it properly in future😊

[@nickfilopoulos7428]

Beautiful Russia makes really good guns 💪

[@allandobbs7059]

Berettas aren’t as reliable as these old war horses bang for buck can’t be beaten!

[@phildavis1282]

£150 for a baikal !! you was robbed son no wonder it was reduced 😲

[@johndivit5869]

Guys. Please at least pronounce the name correctly! It is not Bakecal............... It is Bical. So annoying.

[@richardtimms8733]

Sounds like a anti acid stomach tablet!

[@davidadams4173]

it's Russian, had nobody seen the news

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Jeeeeesus Dont ever use the Words Baikal and Good in the same sentence,,,,,,,,Awful

[@theshapeexists]

I've had mine since I was 18. I'm in my 40s now. I have a Baikal side by side 12 gauge I've shot the absolute piss out of and it's still in great shape. Never had one issue with it. It's cheap, but it works just fine. How can a gun that works and does what it's supposed to do be awful? Yea, it's not a Beretta, but if $150 can get a person a working shotgun, then there's a market for it. It's a fun beater gun that you can pass on to the next generation.

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

@@theshapeexists I've had loads of em in the past as well mate , 👍🍻

[@beeeeee77]

Next time, please make some more competent review. 😊😊

[@Manaritzis88]

I love my baikal

[@Manaritzis88]

And it's made in USSR