They probably shopped around till they found a baker who wouldn't bake the cake. So disingenuous.
@gigi63748 ай бұрын
That was my first thought as well. The people who sued her went out looking to attack someone.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@listlessvessels58 ай бұрын
She could have owned the libs by just serving them, taking their money, then laughing behind their backs all the way to the bank. No one has ever accused a conservative of being a strategic thinker.
@winsomemartinez8 ай бұрын
@@torablack Ikr
@GTILOUD8 ай бұрын
@@torablackyou're also an idiot
@EdieScheffer8 ай бұрын
There are a million bakery's in Cal that would love to have made their cake. Why do they have to try and bend her to their will?
@annebreitrick61168 ай бұрын
Publicity and Victimhood.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
it's against the law to discriminate against customers.
@Charlie_icu8 ай бұрын
Embarrassing you people... 😊
@listlessvessels58 ай бұрын
If a business refused to serve maga you would be the first one screaming while slamming them on yelp.
@tommyzelle13128 ай бұрын
political prosecution
@jaydee_00798 ай бұрын
WRONG QUESTION! Instead of asking "Why didn't she just bake the cake?" they should have asked "Why didn't the couple just accept the other baker?" The only intent can be to FORCE a person to act against their religious beliefs rather than to have a Wedding Cake.
@CrimsonSurvival8 ай бұрын
The right to refuse service to anyone, it’s her business.
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@matthewchick89088 ай бұрын
So the baker is RIGHT. Thank you! @@victorkowalski8237
@ad-jj3yv8 ай бұрын
This is the same legal argrument "white southerners" had in the 1950s and 60s....they would have happily agreed with your discriminatory logic.....hey, let's take it a step further and have businesses choose not to serve Jewish people.
@TTOCSSMITH8 ай бұрын
Discrimination is illegal.
@rickross42418 ай бұрын
@@TTOCSSMITH It's not discrimination. She isn't denying them a cake but she certainly can decide what kind of content she puts on her product.
@harefamily18 ай бұрын
no ones forcing me to make something I don't believe in, whats become of this country.
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. Thoughts
@Dreamhelmet8 ай бұрын
Sculptor - forced to make satanic idol!
@GTKJNow8 ай бұрын
@@Dreamhelmet Amen. Why won't they bake dead baby brains on the cake. They wouldn't want to sue cuz I'd tell em about this verse: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
@lakepal79128 ай бұрын
You go Cathy! And this is NOT the first case exactly like this. Bakery wins EVERYTIME
@goldbud22878 ай бұрын
@@MrMartinSchneider Why, did the democrats and FBI tell the bakery to bake it ?
@blu3collar9498 ай бұрын
Of course the bakery wins. They can pass as many laws as the want to prevent decimation in hiring people but they can't do diddly to business that doesn't want to deal with a customer. They do have a right to refuse service to ANYONE.
@johnkolinoff85918 ай бұрын
👍@@blu3collar949
@bolandbert8 ай бұрын
Sure, go Cathy, we are proud of you and your Father is as well, praise God. Never bend the Truth, you faithful follower of Lord Jesus ✝️❤️ Lets fight this demonic Calif-hate coast state which is already lost.💩
@lakepal79128 ай бұрын
@@MrMartinSchneider well not really, but I get what you are saying
@judyeason2998 ай бұрын
Stand your ground. Keep your faith.
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@lisamannmann55598 ай бұрын
amen
@robertrainford67548 ай бұрын
Religious views are are pure discrimination. There is no proof of god, so any sort of action used to not serve people under the excuse of religion is discriminatory. FYI I voted for the republicans, but this is something republicans need to stop.
@repunzalrepunzal60638 ай бұрын
That baker better win! Full support for her!
@williamgallaher45668 ай бұрын
Leave this lady and her bakery alone.
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
Nah we don’t like discrimination
@secondchance66038 ай бұрын
Go to a kebab shop and demand some bacon with your meal and see how it works out. All hell would break loose.
@GTKJNow8 ай бұрын
@@1Biswet Why won't they bake dead baby brains on the cake. They wouldn't want to sue cuz I'd tell em about this verse: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
@vikkinovak51148 ай бұрын
If I was forced to bake a cake, I would make it the worst and ugliest cake ever.
@jrculbertson74638 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@RobertLPeters18 ай бұрын
Forget a few ingredients
@nandy12568 ай бұрын
Can you make it look grotesquely lewd so that you can make them realize how sinful they are?
@callistoscali43448 ай бұрын
But it is not about the cake. It is about getting you to acquiesce to their LGBT ideology.
@DavidLucas-zq8gb8 ай бұрын
@@RobertLPeters1 Or even add some ingredients, like spunk for example. They are freaky people make them a freaky cake. If they don't like it you can accuse them of not being open minded.
@ramonmirabal1018 ай бұрын
California is upside down. Support the baker 100%.
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. Thoughts
@deborahw.59808 ай бұрын
We ARE upside down. And, just remember, our governor is planning to become President and "fix" the country "California style." The rest of the country should be VERY afraid of that happening!
@annebreitrick61168 ай бұрын
If the cake baker was of a different religion, how would you feel about this situation? Viktorsv.
@ramonmirabal1018 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260 She needs a lot of support to fight the corrupt California government and the mentally sick Californians who support all this BS. She has the right to deny services to anyone she chooses not to serve. Plain and simple. I am pretty sure the final decision is going to be in her favor.
@karlynn77198 ай бұрын
So was her crucifix... 🤨
@greendesertrealestate8 ай бұрын
This madness has to stop. Can't force this madness on us
@riceracm8 ай бұрын
I am praying for Kathy. She has such a strong faith! 🙌🥰✝️🫡🙏
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. Thoughts
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
It’s common among developers. DJT experienced this when he accepted a joint venture with federal funding, were claims of discrimination when renting to minorities.
@melissawright80848 ай бұрын
@anguswhat3850 i didn’t notice until I saw your comment. Weird, what’s up with that?
@travisgoesthere8 ай бұрын
Faith is not a reliable path to the truth. One should never be proud about believing impossible nonsense without evidence.
@jeffbrecht76238 ай бұрын
@@travisgoesthere yet you believe science that is “proven” by somebody else that is not 100% sure of the outcome, just knows by an absolute probability. Right….
@westhillswood518 ай бұрын
Six years down the road and California is still chasing. Any real adult would have simply gone down the road and found another baker.
@RLD454C8 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260you are wrong
@guysmarket32858 ай бұрын
Yes, just like it's your job to shut up and do everything the government tells you to do.
@dylanwillis51658 ай бұрын
That sound vaccinated.@viktorsv8260
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260It has everything to do with her beliefs. I thought you leftists respected people who stood for their beliefs? Oh that right, you were lying all the time.
@xaviergms22258 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260BULLSHIT.
@jamestucker34158 ай бұрын
The supreme Court already said YOU DONT HAVE TO BAKE THAT CAKE.
@icantwiththis8 ай бұрын
So its forced cake baking now?
@Jezballz8 ай бұрын
I would make it with saw dust like Jack did on Threes Company🙂
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@tommyzelle13128 ай бұрын
Yep.. that’s what communist states do
@torablack8 ай бұрын
@AlfonsoSnork Yes, businesses do have a right to refuse services, I never said they didn't. All I'm saying is just like we have freedom of speech/religion laws we also have anti discrimination laws.
@tdgdbs18 ай бұрын
They forced landlord to give free housing for the last 4 years.
@Magajarhead17758 ай бұрын
And this group wonders why people are beginning to dislike them.
@FutureJ238 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260your beliefs are just as full of S. Go bake your own cake.
@WayneGreen-b4y8 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260 Take your opinion, and shove it sideways.
@surlypiratewench19698 ай бұрын
Is this the reason? BS
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@viktorsv8260 They don’t “just want a cake” you liar.
@thetruthchannel3498 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s *Thats not just a 'commenter.'*
@judyfrank25518 ай бұрын
Best of luck to Cathy. Persecution against Christians is on the rise and will continue to. I commend you for standing by your Lord and Saviour, Cathy.
@ChilaRosado8 ай бұрын
Amen and God will fight for his children 💯
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. Thoughts
@thomastaylor66998 ай бұрын
@anguswhat3850Did you hear that "she loved her Lord and savior very much? Don't try and cause problems.
@JamesMilne-hi2ot8 ай бұрын
A country that is 63% Christian is persecuting Christians? Whine much?
@uncleogrimacy8 ай бұрын
Who's gonna enforce it? Texas gave everyone the green light to ignore courts 😂😂😂😂😂
@coffee-xg6my8 ай бұрын
People ask, "Why not just bake the cake?" Well, the same question should be asked of that couple, Why not just take Cathy up on her offer to arrange for another bakery bake it for you?
@Kyle-sr6jm8 ай бұрын
Because Alphabet mafia activists search for these businesses to attack.
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
People don’t want this slippery slope to lead into businesses discriminating against anyone they please. How is this different than refusing service because of the color of a persons skin?
@moonbeam20628 ай бұрын
@@1Biswet Its different because the Constitution doesn't protect discriminating against a person because of the color of their skin. But It DOES protect a person's the right to operate according to their religious beliefs. And keep in mind, Cathy wasn't trying to prohibit the couple from getting a cake baked. That's why she offered to refer them to another bakery to do the cake for them. (A perfectly fair offer on her part) But the couple refused. Instead of just going to the other bakery to get their cake baked they apparently just wanted to harrass Cathy for her decision and make a big stink out of the situation for media attention. Just getting their cake baked obviously wasn't their main priority. But anyway, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act of 1993 (RFRA), does not allow the government to pass laws or regulations that would hinder one’s ability to freely exercise his or her religion. It provides business owners the right to refuse service to customers based on the owner’s religious beliefs and whether fulfilling the customer’s request would cause the business owner to sacrifice these beliefs. Also, in 2014, the Supreme Court decided that laws that contradict or interfere with a business’ right to exercise religious freedom may be unconstitutional and impermissible.
@robroman17738 ай бұрын
The simple fact of this case still remains that this bakery is a private business that can refuse service to anyone for any reason. Now, if she were incorporated, that’s a different story, but she owns a private business and that’s the end of it. How did this even get accepted into an American court?
@thetruthchannel3498 ай бұрын
*Because a VIRUS called the C EYE A has infiltrated COURTS & LAWFIRMS.*
@Kyle-sr6jm8 ай бұрын
You cannot compel someone to violate their faith.
@boudicca2728 ай бұрын
Anyone who demands that someone take their money to bake a cake they don't want to bake is a fool or an attention seeking infant.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@DonandtheredhatMaggies8 ай бұрын
😂😂 hey.. look over here while Donnie grifts all of your hard earned money
@boudicca2728 ай бұрын
@@DonandtheredhatMaggies 👈🏽 another neurotic squirrel.
@RobertLPeters18 ай бұрын
@@DonandtheredhatMaggies some people start their day with a cup of coffee. Triggered desperate cultist can’t stop themselves from threads and whine
@patriotpatrol37098 ай бұрын
"Winner, winner, chicken dinner"....Attention seeking infant was the correct answer.... Would you like to try "forced compliance" for 500???
@physalisgp02658 ай бұрын
This is ridiculous. Go to a different bakery!!
@coyotedust8 ай бұрын
The Alphabet Soup Mafia does this with wedding photographers as well.
@MyBizOnlu8 ай бұрын
They di this crud everywhere they go
@chadmanske97858 ай бұрын
Right to refuse service to anyone is a thing
@plotshift8 ай бұрын
Yeah it was a big thing in the south if you remember for a very long time, still is in some places
@reliablereindeer8 ай бұрын
You guys would be crying if a MAGA couple was denied service
@listlessvessels58 ай бұрын
If the ruling stands then I won't serve MAGA in my business, cuts both ways. However I have high end business in a thriving blue city, MAGA couldn't afford my products anyway, so.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@@plotshiftYes the Democrat controlled South back then was extremely racist.
@AndreaDoesYoga8 ай бұрын
Praying for your courage, Cathy.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@listlessvessels58 ай бұрын
Send your prayers down below, that's where her God resides.
@listlessvessels58 ай бұрын
Conservative Xtian's "We're constantly attacked and discriminated against!" Also conservative Xtians: "We're not baking your cake!"
@PeggyBlair-k9g8 ай бұрын
@@listlessvessels5 What you say is not True. God almighty is in Heaven, that's who her God is! The one you speak of so easily is the devil, he lives in Hell along with all of your friends.
@nandy12568 ай бұрын
I do agree that in this clip freedom of religion is being trampled upon. But I definitely don't believe that the mango Mussolini believes in Jesus Christ. Actually I believe he knows that many Christians can easily be fooled.
@josephinehlaisi56608 ай бұрын
Stand firm on God’s Word
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
"Thou shall love thy neighbor as thyself." Matthew 22:39
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 Look up that reference and discover who the “neighbor” was. 🙄
@josephinehlaisi56608 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 it does not mean I have to affirm sin. God said rebuke one another. The Bible said without righteousness no one will see Lord. Sin is forbidden in the Bible
@JamesMilne-hi2ot8 ай бұрын
By supporting a ray pist like Trump?
@josephinehlaisi56608 ай бұрын
@@JamesMilne-hi2ot- what does it have to do with Trump. Your problem is with the God of Israel.
@josephdennis40658 ай бұрын
Alphabet people. You want to be included and accepted but yet you are not helping your situation by doing this kind of stuff.
@davemaurer73418 ай бұрын
Fck alphabeters
@elderlymanpoormemorybullseye8 ай бұрын
LJHS has tampons in the boys' restrooms, CA is lost.
@Charlie_icu8 ай бұрын
Says a MAGAt with 2 first names... 😂😂❤
@ThomasOaxaca-zo7qf8 ай бұрын
@@Charlie_icuplease stop your ignorant and foolish comments
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@patmichael85198 ай бұрын
Remember this all started with "we just want to get married".
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
Dude why are you so soft? Lmao
@TruthFiction8 ай бұрын
No, it started with "We demand that you bake our cake and nothing will change our minds, even if it costs us tens of thousands in legal fees every time the court rules against us because we demand that society bend over backwards to be our biches."
@douglasbooth68368 ай бұрын
You cant force someone to make a cake.
@plotshift8 ай бұрын
B***h get in that kitchen I wanna see layers
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, that's what it will boil down to.
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 Good, make a horrible cake and deliver it late.
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s that's just stupid. You clearly have never run a business.
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 I have runs business. Liar.
@Brotherred18 ай бұрын
So obvious. I admire her and her fight.
@surlypiratewench19698 ай бұрын
🙄
@tina6651.8 ай бұрын
Good for her for sticking to her beliefs! God bless her🙏🏼
@musicalhelp8 ай бұрын
I only bow to the will of one creator.
@ndAd-bp2dz8 ай бұрын
What happened to ? Having the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason . Key note : having the right !!
@mainetreelineruguess978 ай бұрын
Too many limousine liberal lawyers with too much free time on their hands. On the other hand, they were possibly influenced by the last of the dried up hippies of the 60s who went on to become law professors.
@kristinabolba13518 ай бұрын
SHE HAS A RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE.....SHE IS NOT A SLAVE. AND SHE HAS A RIGHT TO SAY NO........ MAKE YOUR OWN CAKE.
@allanmiller49728 ай бұрын
'The state of CA has kinda lost its mind!' That's assuming gov. newsom EVER had one! 👎🤡💣😩
@rickslaye42348 ай бұрын
It’s her bakery she has a right to make or not make any cake she wants! Only in California
@Valtteri-ew7ue8 ай бұрын
Just like any restaurant should haver right to not serve black people? Like any bus company should have right to have own seats for black people to separate them from whites? .. am I right? Right?
@annebreitrick61168 ай бұрын
Correct. It's artistic freedom.
@raymondjallen8 ай бұрын
If you trust our government to respect your constitutional rights, then you are going to be disappointed.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@raymondjallen8 ай бұрын
@torablack true, but the free exercise clause in the 1st Amendment protects her rights even though I think Christiainty has no place in this country because the belief that it teaches is in contradiction with the constitution and our laws.
@Kyle-sr6jm8 ай бұрын
The Constitution was written by Christians. Maybe you are the ignorant one
@robertrainford67548 ай бұрын
She should discriminate towards people. I hate religion. So I have no sympathy for her.
@TreeSawyer8 ай бұрын
I thought we were passed this.
@Simplegaming_only8 ай бұрын
The bakery isn't entitled to serve everyone(unlike doctors, who take a vow to protect their patients)... This is going crazy
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. Thoughts
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@Internutt20238 ай бұрын
Plenty of doctors will refuse service to patients that have a health care plan they won't want to work with, unless that patient can pay with cash.
@robertrainford67548 ай бұрын
True but the racism/ and discrimination are things that nobody should be allowed to practice. Just because you are religious doesn’t mean you can use that as a excuse to treat people less than human. That is the problem. If the baker has religious views that’s fine, but they should not follow her decision making in a business setting.
@Ziggy_Moonglow8 ай бұрын
"Do no harm" doesn't not mean "I will do things against my will".
@tommanley29248 ай бұрын
Where are the Bakers RIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
Bakers Lives Matter!!!
@_iLLuSiv3_8 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 I see what you did there... lol
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
She might have given up her rights, by accepting federal or state monies. Explanation I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
Rights to discriminate? Sounds like the same excuse of “states rights” to enslave.
@tommanley29248 ай бұрын
Nope the federal government has already beat them to the punch look at someone's W-2 and see who is taking more. @@1Biswet
@Riza-q7z8 ай бұрын
Cathy, you're a brave American woman, and I really admire your courage & faith. If I was in California, I would definitely be your customer for most of the time. 💙 ✝️ 🇺🇸
@frostedsleet31248 ай бұрын
Stay strong Cathy. God has you! ❤️🙏
@frostedsleet31248 ай бұрын
@Quint-ib4nf 👈 Quint is an example of the Marxist that infiltrated our country.
@Utility-Bill8 ай бұрын
What doesn't anyone understand about CALIFORNIA LAW? That clearly states a sign can be posted at a business stating: WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE.
@sarzozasarzoza28908 ай бұрын
Kathy stand your ground..we are praying for you.❤
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
She might have given up her rights, by accepting federal or state monies. Explanation I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@GTKJNow8 ай бұрын
@@victorkowalski8237 They wouldn't want to sue cuz I'd tell em about this verse: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
@theHAL90008 ай бұрын
As a native Californian I'm proud to boast that we as a state have reached rock-bottom in just about every form of governance. The term "sober-minded thinking" doesn't apply here.
@sunshineandstarlight8 ай бұрын
We already went through this years ago another bakery.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@kathieballance72978 ай бұрын
This woman is beautiful ❤
@MrEkzotic8 ай бұрын
Leave people alone!!!! That baker isn't harming anyone.
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
Discrimination is harming society.
@kevinoconnor83518 ай бұрын
Give them the cake and next they come for your children! They have no limits!
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
She might have given up her rights, by accepting federal or state monies. Explanation I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@JamesMilne-hi2ot8 ай бұрын
Can you cite one example of them "coming for your children"?
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
Are you referring to trumps name appearing in the Epstein list?
@Dreamhelmet8 ай бұрын
They'll even offer to babysit for you while you bake the cake!
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
@@JamesMilne-hi2ot good luck in trying to change an ideology. It’s futile, history is littered with enough evidence.
@gregwilson53938 ай бұрын
Just bake them the worst cake ever.
@elderlymanpoormemorybullseye8 ай бұрын
Its moose turd pie, its good doh.
@RobertLPeters18 ай бұрын
Just forget a few ingredients
@JamesMilne-hi2ot8 ай бұрын
Such a Christian thing to do.
@GTKJNow8 ай бұрын
Use salt instead of sugar and say Christians are the salt of the earth.
@GTKJNow8 ай бұрын
@@JamesMilne-hi2ot Put this verse on the cake instead: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
@davidthomits5448 ай бұрын
They can try find a woke bakery
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
Woke? Is trump woke for selling pride merch?
@adamholloway56058 ай бұрын
Supreme Court already ruled on this
@1Biswet8 ай бұрын
They also ruled on abortion and changed their mind.
@adamholloway56058 ай бұрын
@@1Biswet well the Supreme Court never had the authority to legislate law from the bench. That’s the legislative branch of government,per each state to make laws in each jurisdiction. States have a right to decide for themselves.
@vickierolison67558 ай бұрын
They ran an Oregon bakery out of business with fines for the same thing a few years ago.
@kennethrohloff75358 ай бұрын
These activists are ugly and sick. They already know on some level that their lifestyle is questionable. They're just miserable, trying to force people to go along with something that is obviously abnormal
@GTKJNow8 ай бұрын
I think they are still selling online from home. But sad about brick and mortar store.
@kennethbeers86938 ай бұрын
Good for her! This should have never even made it to court. Glad I moved away from Cali.
@richardisner36718 ай бұрын
A privately owned business has a RIGHT to refuse doing business with anyone.
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@richardisner36718 ай бұрын
@@victorkowalski8237 The fact that the Supreme Court of the United States has already ruled on cases that this bakery business is in Court for. The ruling should be the end of the Commiefornia case. The bakery owner should not have any case against her.
@ITSTIME_FORYOU_TOWALK_THEPLANK8 ай бұрын
As a white Atheist, I support Kathy and hope she is exonerated in this ridiculous case!!!
@ITSTIME_FORYOU_TOWALK_THEPLANK8 ай бұрын
@@fdsfaf132 VOTE MAGA ❤❤❤. ignore that Beach Nikky Haley whatever Fox News tell you VOTE TRUMP!!!
@ITSTIME_FORYOU_TOWALK_THEPLANK8 ай бұрын
@@fdsfaf132 are you black? Like me if so you should know of Christianity’s role in our suffering
@puppylove11658 ай бұрын
WOW Cathy bakes Beautiful cakes. Cathy move to Tampa Florida, we will support you 1000%. 🧁 🎂 🍪
@lisalarosa45468 ай бұрын
Or, Texas. But, not Austin!!
@Wiley-kn9sm8 ай бұрын
Why isnt a private business allowed to serve who they want.
@VeryOldMerc8 ай бұрын
The future couple couldn't find an LGB bakery that would celebrate their union with them? What a waste of court resources. People need the court system to work on justice not this nonsense..
@jenala38968 ай бұрын
What the heck California too much trouble under Newsome such. my business I have the right refused to service…..FJB
@mongtkb8 ай бұрын
Hasn't SCOTUS already solved this issue like 10 years ago
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@timjohnshort8 ай бұрын
Kathy, we stand with you!
@thinkingallowed64858 ай бұрын
It's her business...ffs
@reginaodoms41358 ай бұрын
She definitely loves the Lord and no one should force her to go against her beliefs !!! 💯💯💯💯
@kennethhecht33548 ай бұрын
PRIVATE BUSINESS AND PERSONAL BELIEFS ARE NOT MANDATORY SERVICES!!!
@ambiebambie81988 ай бұрын
California is wild. I escaped that hell hole 3 years ago and moved to South Carolina. I will never go back!! What a joke!
@Ddeamorin8 ай бұрын
I thought ground hog day was yesterday,were doing this again?
@skoolwheelz90428 ай бұрын
it's never going to stop as long as the left can harass decent people
@mikemj82048 ай бұрын
I support the baker God Bless her.
@KammyKackler8 ай бұрын
Why not just buy the cake without obliging someone else to violate their religious convictions. Once in possession of said cake, pluck out the little female figurine and replace it with a modern G.I. Joe.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@minhchaubuingoc83848 ай бұрын
Or better yet, get it somewhere else
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
@@torablack I agree it's a slippery slope. The danger of siding with the bakery is it could open the door for businesses to discriminate against any ethnic minority and claim religious liberty too. At the end of the day, the best thing the customer can do is find a bakery that will accommodate them. Let others know about the bakery that refused them. And let customers decide from there.
@patriotpatrol37098 ай бұрын
Or a couple of "Village People" characters like the Indian head dress and the hard hat dude...🤣
@keithm93378 ай бұрын
Because it isn't about the cake, it is about forcing people to go against their religious convictions because the militant liberals don't like those convictions. So, they force people to conform, or try to get their business shut down.
@JRH998 ай бұрын
We're behind her! They need to stay in their own parades and out of our family parades too!
@planejanedaniels8 ай бұрын
"Free speech is a tough cookie to crack."
@coyotedust8 ай бұрын
So is freedom of religion.
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@listlessvessels58 ай бұрын
Not sure how they do it in Russia but open commerce in the US serves all, it's not a church.
@terryhodges39608 ай бұрын
We're with you kathy
@RLD454C8 ай бұрын
I would let my dog bake that cake , it would be brown and tubular in shape and smell real bad .
@shoeshoe52538 ай бұрын
Pick another bakery!!! Troublemakers!!
@ChilaRosado8 ай бұрын
She’s going to win this battle because God himself will be the one there fighting! Be careful who u touch especially Gods children ❤️ peace be unto you women of faith sit back and relax and let God do his thing 💯🙌🏼🙏
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
She might have given up her rights, by accepting federal or state monies. Explanation I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@allengina10918 ай бұрын
Thank you Ma’am for your conviction, religious belief, faith. God bless you.
@Blahbah8 ай бұрын
They want a cake I'll make them one 3200.00
@chrisb99608 ай бұрын
This was already solved in the courts. I look forward to a counter lawsuit for this frivolous claim.
@terrathunderstorms37018 ай бұрын
Why does California think it can just discriminate against people?
@plotshift8 ай бұрын
Didn't most all states do that for a very, very long time? Kind of established precedent by now lol
@torablack8 ай бұрын
Personally I do view this as a tricky situation. Under the 1st amendment we do have freedom of religion which should be protected. But at the same time we do have laws saying that a business cannot discriminate against customers based on their background.
@opossumsrawesome68608 ай бұрын
@@torablack are those federal or state laws. Or both?
@torablack8 ай бұрын
@@opossumsrawesome6860 As far as I know they're Federal laws.
@nufamilia8 ай бұрын
🧐 it’s a stupid cake!
@carlofanni22248 ай бұрын
Out from California... Let them enjoy their babylon
@jrculbertson74638 ай бұрын
So now we have LOST OUR FREEDOM TO CHOOSE!!!😢
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
It was ended when Roe v Wade was overturned.
@stratbluesman8 ай бұрын
Go get your cake somewhere else ! They just have to make a big deal out of it !!!
@rayganter80298 ай бұрын
Charge them 10 times more than the Cake is worth then they will not want your cake
@ServantofYahshuaHaMashiach8 ай бұрын
Respect for Cathy Miller ❤ VANA
@CanabisWhiskeyAnanas8 ай бұрын
I rather burger king over McDonald's tho.
@thinkingallowed64858 ай бұрын
How about cracking a grammar book?😅
@readerspubb19738 ай бұрын
100 % support Baker. Also, to the LBGT what ever; anyone and everyone has the right to refuse service. Soo what are you being oppressed by this time ? Everyone and anyone has the right to practice their religion.
@kabc8 ай бұрын
There's more important things going on. Geez who cares.
@plotshift8 ай бұрын
For real, it's a cake
@unpopularopinionpodcast248 ай бұрын
She should Sue the state for harassment
@hectordiaz53118 ай бұрын
That pure socialism and Fascism Non government has to tell a Private Business what to do or what to sell or to whom….
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
Except when it comes to discrimination.
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 It’s not discrimination. And they aren’t putting their fake wedding on hold during this court case - which proves it wasn’t about the cake in the first place.
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
@@NomenClature-o8s it actually is discrimination
@blnunya66898 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 You can't compel speech.
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
@@blnunya6689 what ate you talking about??
@annnelson90308 ай бұрын
Good for her!!!! This country is NUTS!!!!!
@jalenjose39058 ай бұрын
We love people but their sins , we dont have too.
@tyrelliuslogellus62538 ай бұрын
Its funny when people who think they evolved from sludge talk about dignity
@swinuyasha8 ай бұрын
If itngoes against your religious beliefs, that's all there is to it. Let it ring
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
But where does religious belief end and discrimination begin?
@swinuyasha8 ай бұрын
@@philalexander7902 at the point it physically harms another.
@philalexander79028 ай бұрын
@@swinuyasha so only physical harm?
@tommccoy80178 ай бұрын
As a former business owner, I have the right to refuse service to anyone.
@johnbrown98028 ай бұрын
Her business she can do what she wants.
@Sueblaze8 ай бұрын
She said NO and that's it! Let her be ! I hope she wins! God has your back Cathy! ❤❤❤
@wethepeople73828 ай бұрын
way to start the morning with some lgbtq haite huh Republicans
@123duelist8 ай бұрын
The last trillion times this went on, the Bakers won. Nothing is going to change
@docwillis14438 ай бұрын
It’s LGBTQ2SIAA+ get it right
@felixramirez99208 ай бұрын
It's not hate. Stop lying.
@Ddeamorin8 ай бұрын
Someone call the waaaahmbulance the alphabet people are upset again.
@coldstonestunners8 ай бұрын
LGBTQ hates the freedom of no
@ernstdevries79908 ай бұрын
Evil government!
@victorkowalski82378 ай бұрын
She might have given up her rights, by accepting federal or state monies. Explanation I am a business owner, not a lawyer, I like reading law. The law uses past decisions as a reference to try cases. The Supreme Court made ruling in regard to corporate rights. When it comes to corporations-they are treated as “persons” who are covered by the Equal Protection Clause (and Contracts Clause among others), but they are excluded from the definition of “citizens” under the Comity Clause. They’re not a citizen so they don’t have constitutional rights. If a developer receives federal or state then certain laws apply. It’s common in the development world to partner financially with the federal government. DJT experience this personally, the business was found violating Fair Housing laws. Discriminatory practices. Thoughts.
@aschkansabaghi49018 ай бұрын
Business have the right to refuse their services to anyone!
@NomenClature-o8s8 ай бұрын
Why would you want a business to bake a cake for the biggest day of your life….and choose a baker who doesn’t want your business?