Balance Catamarans Performance Rigging and Sails

[@pioneer_1148]

it's refreshing to see a company which will actually say "the option may not be worth it" props for a propper discussion rather than just trying to sell people the most expensive version of your boats

[@RogerWilco1]

Love these kinds of discussion videos.

[@pbr-yt8zc]

The difference between carbon and aluminum is more about motion than speed, reduced weight aloft improves ride and reduces pitching.

[@riddlerandsa8161]

which is why it makes so much difference on a monohull. but on a cat?!...

[@pbr-yt8zc]

@@riddlerandsa8161 Monohulls heel, and its more about stability, going carbon is like adding weight to the keel

[@riddlerandsa8161]

@@pbr-yt8zc Hi pbr1952, you may have misunderstood my point. My point is exactly that cats of that size don´t move that much and their stability does not come from a keel, henceforth the reduced benefit compared to a monohull. From their discussion it seems pretty obvious that they see the advantage really only in overall weight (not weight ¨high up¨which is always the discussion on monohulls) and that that can be saved more cost efficiently elsewhere.

[@balancecatamarans]

True. Standard Modulus Carbon masts are about 14% lighter when dressed compared to an alu spar. They just cost significantly more for relatively minor weight savings, although the weight saved is in the best place. On a cat the benefit is mostly reduction of fore and aft pitching.

[@dirtypot125]

But 14% on 65kg is only going to be about 10kg. Surely that will not be noticeable? This video has convinced me that an aluminium mast with composite rigging and performance sails is the way forward.

[@WillN2Go1]

The elephant in the room is not carbon or aluminum, but mono versus multihull. It didn't take much for me to realize: multi-hull even if I have to stretch to afford it. The difference between cruising at 5-6knots and 9-11 knots is so significant as to end the discussion. And I'm not a racer. The other key factor is reliability, ease of use. (I saw a video about hank-on foresails. I thought, okay they seem to be more reliable than furling systems, but just something to consider. Since then, I've read two accounts and seen two videos where a furling system failed in high winds. It would take a lot to make me now change my mind.) The 'spreadsheet guys.' You're probably not going to talk them around over the phone,. But they are an opportunity. What does it take to correct their thinking? It seems like Mr Berman has zeroed in on what's important. Stowage volume and reduce weight. (I've seen some videos on $2 million cats that are three decks high and weigh as much as a cement truck-loaded. They're houseboats configured to look like performance cats. Putting together a 'lesson' on what's important and what's not is a terrific opportunity both to correct focus of the 'spreadsheet guys,' but also to again ask the question: what's really important? I think like most people wanting a multihull is I want something fast, but not sacrificing reliability over the years, nor overly constraining my lifestyle aboard. Fast crossings, but breaking no records.

[@earthstick]

You said standard modulus carbon, does that imply there are high modulus examples. I was also wondering if uni-directional carbon fibre is used? Seems that a mast being one dimensional is the perfect structure for uni-directional fibre.

[@MaxRoaldEckardt]

HH likes this video ; )

[@anthonyellis9804]

Three Annapolis boats show ago there was a 526, how was the mainsail rigged. I remembered something special but cannot remember what it was?

[@balancecatamarans]

Anthony, not sure which one you refer to, sorry.

[@rickduncan6645]

6,00

[@andrewbradnan]

For 300k you can get a bigger boat with bigger sails....