BALANCE PATCH IS HERE!!! (Summoners War)

[@Store.Keeper.01]

"Are you hurt? Fallen Blossom" bagel voice is coming back

[@jaredcrabb]

I hope so, that was so funny. Now all Chasun needs is a cleanse.

[@Hundo_Mo]

Who else remembers when Chasun was as annoying as Riley is?

[@Diopside.]

Not as annoying as Riley is.

[@joshportie]

Cheatsun

[@terrafirma5327]

@@Diopside. You don't go that far back then. She was the premium arena defender.

[@mathiasdargel6108]

@@terrafirma5327 true, was an abs beast back then. lit every 2nd def or whatever had chasun in it and this 3 skill into vio prog 2nd skill was just so fuckn anoying.

[@terrafirma5327]

@@mathiasdargel6108 right, everyone trying to kill her with Targaros because we didn't even have Rica

[@heronlim8462]

I don't even play this game anymore but it's fun to see.

[@u-law8149]

I'm not that far removed probably about a month or two but I don't play it anymore either

[@snip3r416]

Same I moved on so many mobile games now day’s I still enjoy watching people play it though.

[@alimafi8561]

Me2

[@PeteFish-b1f]

No Lydia buff

[@ItachiUchiha_9s]

I still play coz of the events Even I started playing on korea server XD got 0 nat 5 from all the scrolls even the new player staffs Still sht I took CP from free 5 giveaway But will finish all free staff and leave the server Idk why but will work on my main cuz got over 50 ld scrolls saved Want to make it 100 so bagel can summon them If ld5 Im ok if not Im leaving the game Got Zerath, Dorothey And light Izeo

[@Azombiebaby]

I think you right, so many of these seemed random. The Frigate buff made me wonder if there's a Frigate Tablo combo somewhere

[@archi4226]

He is usually used with nuke teams, which makes this buff so good, i pair him in siege with Gemini and Isabell/Tanya. Or in AO with double lushen and megan or Adriana depending if i need att bar or will

[@Azombiebaby]

@@archi4226 Ohh yeah I always forget about those 2 assassins, good thinking

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@archi4226 Whos Adriana? I havent played in a while, so I forgot newer units and those I dont use often (I probably have her).

[@archi4226]

@@jaredcrabb the 5* star cookie. She heals with 1 skill, oblivion one Target 2nd and buffs att and will with 3rd

[@jaredcrabb]

@@archi4226 Water Pure Vanilla Cookie? I think I have her, just not built cause fuck pvp. And I can say that more now that arena towers are now level skills.

[@davidpitre8090]

The Isis buff is REALLY good into Juno specifically. Before the silence would proc her Spd Buff, then the Oblivion would land. However, because she still got her Spd Buff, sometimes she would cut and get a strip/stun off and mess your team up. Isis needs a little more, but this is a nice start.

[@jaredcrabb]

Pretty sure theres other monsters that it helps against too, but I cant think of any while the stoned version of tipsy.

[@Crspschntzl]

The return of fallen blossoms bagel is nigh

[@hypergiantstar1834]

Holy shit that just threw me back 8 years i completely forgot he used to do that LOL

[@jaredcrabb]

I hope so. I might put Chasun on my defense now and hope he sees me:D I know Chasun and Theomars, but what were other common units back then? I didnt, and still basically dont, so pvp, so I only know them through youtube.

[@Jul25-qo9po]

WIND dessert warrior "sadly" will still stay as 2* unit.. 😢😢😢😢😢

[@durant8006]

One star

[@Hxpnoticghost]

@@durant8006 half a star

[@durant8006]

@@Hxpnoticghost idk what they smoking him and fire angel still not get buffed.

[@dream6897]

WIND geralt too

[@biogopher]

@@dream6897 giving him anything means Com2US at least achnowledges he needs sometihng

[@Mega2527]

Light Desert Queen applying oblivion first just stops passives that would block the silence

[@qaws1106]

which mon is that that blocks silence?

[@Marco-mm7bv]

@@qaws1106 it’s specifically good into Juno

[@jaredcrabb]

I think thats the point. Applies Oblivion before the silence rather than at the same time so the skills works. Like how cleanse heals didnt used to heal with unrecoverable cause theyd heal at the same time as the removal of heal block.

[@qaizarsarmad7317]

So now fire and dark pirate captain are better than wind and dark Geralt 😂😂😂

[@Romeokonggo]

Miss you Jewbengals!!! I know you still doing this for the loyal fans and your love for summoners war!!

[@Linkforlife199]

Did Douglas REALLY need a buff? I think that Chasun buff will be more impactful than we give it credit for, especially since she has an hp lead now.

[@endyru]

convinced that in order to buff/nerf things they play spin the bottle with every mon

[@jaredcrabb]

I think they go through every monster and roll a dice or something (flipping a coin would give them too many, unless they call it for every monster).

[@camklix2504]

Another what feels like pointless patch, nothing in the meta changed, things that don't need nerfs got nerfed and things that don't need buffs got buffed, really is crazy how they just don't listen to the player base and make what feels like completely random changes every patch. Back like 2-3 years ago, the patches actually were so much more meaningful, it's just so hard to get excited for them now because I know nothing meaningful is going to happen.

[@biogopher]

The despair change feels big, im curious to see how that shakes things up

[@jaredcrabb]

Best balance ever since Lapis and Lanett will now be 95 base spd.

[@StoteFarus]

The return of Fallen Blossoms ❤

[@lingwang5378]

Bagel everyone loves u and thankful having you to explain during the 10 yeas on the game :)

[@lukehollingsworth4195]

Dark/fire skill 2 pirate captain buff underrated and skill 3 on dark mixed with decrease atk bar units that kill is going to be OP... I love it!

[@dudono1744]

Consider light robo

[@lukehollingsworth4195]

@@dudono1744 he does good damage when he's set up correctly but adding that stun chance tells me he's not a kill unit and would have to be set up with like a gany or wind dragon, nana and galleon so he can nuke... Good buff but very niche.

[@dudono1744]

@@lukehollingsworth4195 I mean robo reset frigate and frigate resets robo

[@lukehollingsworth4195]

@@dudono1744 robo doesn't revive on his own though, very niche

[@dudono1744]

@@lukehollingsworth4195 True, you need to revive it. But you have crazy cycling + cd reset to help.

[@crkTyphoon]

Also, I think, the two units that got buffed the most here, are Miho and Artamiel, since Beast Monks now always Crit with S1

[@daniz6102]

Where is the dark devil maiden buff?

[@RoxzinGaming]

I liked the BP. Needed rune changes, awakening changes, some really good buffs there. Speed changes. Some random changes, yes but still changes which does give some monsters new life. Some buffs are pretty good imo, like the water hell lady one

[@jaredcrabb]

I honestly dont give a flying fuck about 99.9% of it. Magic Knights finally arent slugs (they are still snails though, yes snails are faster than slugs, I watched a slug "race" a snail once), and now theres hope maybe one day Astars current spd will be her base spd. Fuck the Nicki nerf, what about those who hate pvp com2us? And fuck the Beth nerf cause shes my favorite aunt.

[@biogopher]

22:00 New Beth /Hwahee lead meta, S3 beth into S3 Hwahee, most units get def broke by Beth so youre odds of 60% att bar is huge and Beth probably gets a 2nd turn and Gouge gets the bonus for the def break on top of att buff. Maybe with triton in seige to counter will

[@biogopher]

Water Geralt is usable in some of the fastest DBAH teams. Hes fine. The light Geralt buff is wild

[@AyetCortez]

back in the day, chasun was a frustration, when atkbar decreasing effects is not a big thing.(well when hwa was the only one does it that time)

[@potatomatop9326]

yeah... then came shaina. shaina used to have atkbar decrease and then loren and tyron's second. I miss the days when you had to drool for verad to clear toah

[@jaredcrabb]

Verad always reset atk bar (even when it didnt freeze). Poseidon while he didnt reset, reduced by 75% or so. Charlotte also reduced it, though like Poseidon wasnt as much as it is now. Cant think of them but for nat 4s and under there were still more. Hwa was just the strongest of them. Not trying to sound condescending (Im kinda stoned so random right now), just informative. Back then Lushen could usually one (or technically 4-5) shot Chasun. Though she was still annoying when they nerfed him 3-4 times.

[@AyetCortez]

@@jaredcrabb yeah i forgot about him, even so he is premium back in the day. not everyone got verad.

[@jaredcrabb]

@@AyetCortez Did you read that before or after my edit? If before, I wasnt trying to sound condescending (I actually did have him back then, but that was before most of his buffs. He still froze at the time, but nothing else), simply informative. I wanted to add the nat 4s but Im stoned and dont remember who did back then.

[@AyetCortez]

@@jaredcrabb its okay.

[@kamarrroxs4176]

They did not need to nerf fire pudding princess. Her passive was just fine. I want immunity buff with her s2.

[@potatomatop9326]

good to see someone interested on fire pudding... She's now immune to inability but the heal is now 15 from 40 and the passive still won't work against bosses... i'm still not awakening her, or 6-starring her and devilmoning her... What do u think?

[@rugslap162]

I actually quite liked the Vanilla Cookie pre-nerf. Now I might just take her runes off. No real reason to use that unit now. You're almost better off running the 2a Red Werewolf at this point :(

[@derxiong4129]

Wind desert warrior is actually pretty solid. Sure he needs a slight buff but he does a lot of damage as a tanky unit. Messed around with him in rta and won a majority of my c2 matches using a him.

[@jaredcrabb]

Wanna do some 2v2 together sometime? I wanna get the OG skins, but suck solo. Im DestinyTalim in game.

[@BRIJUNKO]

The fire sky dancer is gonna be nuts in dungeon run thats 6 hits for a 60% atk bar if only you could do it in necro

[@AyetCortez]

can do it actually. only in the boss stage that atbr is not applied.

[@jaredcrabb]

I believe thats what he means. I should rune her up and just make a fire necro team, since my current team isnt so great (admittedly its purely their runes, but I do like the team), and I wanna use Shihwa more since I just got her transmog.

[@Socrates21stCentury]

Com2US Developers continue to show that they obviously "DO NOT" Play the Game ... 95% of these are meaningless buffs / nerfs ... pretty lame ... just a filler balance patch

[@chorvaletsgaming7325]

The biggest part of this balance patch is beast monk and barbarian kings. They manage to type it five times

[@zieg1013]

Dark geralt user here. This buff is quite good .. if acc and res worked as intended in this game. With 2 buff he has 100% activation chance and as a bomber its pretty easy to have 2 buffs

[@biogopher]

thats what I was thinking, its what he needed to make sense

[@marcosenese8416]

Dark geralt g1 user here. The buff is decent but they need to make his passive works with bomb's damage, since that is almost irrelevant.

[@zieg1013]

@@marcosenese8416 or just change him to att type

[@marcosenese8416]

@@zieg1013 and then why should i give him more than 2 buffs? I mean, why there is the condition about 3 or more benefical effect on his life if now are enough just 2 buffs for the activation rate? If the passive would work also with bomb damage at least i would create a team around him lol

[@zieg1013]

@@marcosenese8416 thats true

[@biogopher]

21:19 I was pretty new and casual during the Chasun meta but I dont remember that many attack bar control units, none that worked all that well and 5* werent the "dime a dozen" they were today. On top of that her 1) s3 isnt a "heal" so normal heal block didnt affect it 2) she was one of the few "2 heal" units (see Riley for other annoying examples". 3) if you made her your fastest unit she would either buff before your team goes or if you tried to single target nuke her or her ally S3 heals to full and she matches attack bar basically going again. TLDR Im still salty

[@randomwannab118]

I think the biggest change on her S2 would be to remove a debuff or two. Sure, S3 ignores heal block, but you have units like Riley that can attack buff, immunity, and remove debuffs. So they can heal through heal block as well. Kinda the main reason that the light fairy queen stopped being used as much. No cleanse on her S3. That's not saying that you need that cleanse. Just that she hasn't traditionally done "enough." Look at Praha. She aoe sleeps. Gives your team a second to recoup. Without that added utility, there's no real use to using her anymore, sadly.

[@biogopher]

@@randomwannab118 im in no way sad that chasun isnt meta anymore lol. Though I agree with most of your points I think the immunity at full hp is a good buff in place of cleansing

[@jaredcrabb]

Her balance (and Atenais, and the others that were changed and I never use so I forgot) still do ignore unrecoverable. And dont worry Im sure EVERYONE is still salty, including those who had and used her. Im still salty about Camilla getting 8-9 turns every turn (back then 7 or 8 procs was the max), including mine cause that meant they all would. Stronger heal and cleanse on 3rd would be nice for Fran. I could auto ToA Hell if she did.

[@VeroAce_]

It'd be most likely a wind mermaid Gemini and a fire sky dancer with Gemini lead for siege defense. Props for s2 Set skill on Gemini and it going first w fire dancer spd tuned right after.

[@cslance6863]

I think Smicer and Light Harp magician should switch passives.

[@joshuawallen8112]

I might be one of the only people happy about the Magic Knight buffs, but I will take it. Now hopefully this is a good omen that I might finally get the Light one...

[@jaredcrabb]

Nope. BEST BALANCE EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also theres hope that maybe 1 day Astars current spd will be her base spd

[@Spiralem]

C2Us be like... we have to fulfill our LD buffing KPI, just give Zeratu HP regen per turn. Edit: Fire puddin princess with that 25% additional healing nerf could do with immune to ATB reduction as well.. just sayin' Edit2: Beth heal block is quite useless against dedicated healer as most of them cleanse before healing anyways.

[@tonysky9047]

They even had the All beast monk tab say what the next 6 lines say 🤣 bruh like why

[@jaydee9377]

The Fire Pirate Captain will now install a bomb and will detonate said bomb. 2 bomb installers and detonator only Carrick will detonate only 1 enemy but will reduce the number/turn on the bombs on other enemies. Might be interesting!

[@Phazix]

Shit Balance Patch... I guess we gonna see the same meta in RTA over and over and over again...

[@jaredcrabb]

Best ever actually. Lapis and Lanett will be much more useable now. And that means theres hope theyll get 100-105 base spd someday.

[@rugslap162]

Don't nobody use Lapis or Lanett past early game 🤣

[@jaredcrabb]

@@rugslap162 I do. Just not too often. With this change I bet people will use her more.

[@rugslap162]

I def forgot Lanett is Dark version. Thought she was the wind. Lanett is valid but Lapis is just mid imo

[@jaredcrabb]

@@rugslap162 Actually, Lapis is probably the best of them for general content. Astar hits the hardest unless the enemy has millions of hp, but with all the atk bar reduction, and being water, shes useable more places than the rest. Only 2 I devilmoned, back when I had tons of devilmon and nothing to use them on

[@thereisnowayyouareforreal5156]

They really gave veronica the giana treatment. Shes still usable, but they really love that turn 2 who vio procs more gameplay

[@jaredcrabb]

Sucks I got her right after last nerf and shes getting nerfed again.

[@thereisnowayyouareforreal5156]

@jaredcrabb I've had two meaningful ld5s in my 8 years, and they nerfed both into the ground lmao atleast I got one season with op Veronica and dark bison

[@Chino_Phoy]

The community is the best part of SW

[@Grubenz]

My favourite parts of the video: 9:50 16:40 22:55

[@endyru]

so they merged deborah in order for an ld5 to do the same thing in her place?

[@chadmendiola9833]

Them touching all the other Dokkeabi Lord elements except for the one that actually needed a nerf... way to go Com2us 😂

[@karllee2917]

why does he need a nerf? he is a really good unit for people who are free to play and don’t have crazy runes… i’d be so sad if they nerf him… he is a guaranteed siege win

[@benjaminmesserer2471]

Finally a good monster for Siege Defense. Siege Def needs some good monster anyways. It is kinda boring to just windy everything lol. I know he got nerfed rn

[@Tylerrrrrb]

@@karllee2917”why does he need a nerf” also “ he’s a guaranteed siege win” there ya go

[@RoxzinGaming]

Well, his s1 did get a Nerf. Considering he does not have an active s3, it's a nice change. Could use more, but it's definitely something

[@chadmendiola9833]

@@karllee2917 have you seen his skills? He practically does everything. He's a tank, heals the team, strips and steals buffs, always crits, and hits pretty hard. The s1 stun chance decrease doesn't do anything to him.

[@gustavofernandes6314]

The despair change is what haegang needed.... His passive didn't change but I think everyone mostly builds him on despair and that change impacts haegang

[@robertv6628]

Yea if you land glancing on him it's his passive which is the problem not the despair set.

[@ChafTv_sw]

Cr haegang inbound. 😈

[@biogopher]

Imagine changing an entire rune set because of one mon

[@PeteFish-b1f]

And Shannon, and Mellia ,

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@PeteFish-b1f Too bad it doesnt ignore immunity cause my Shannon pretty op and I wanna use her more.

[@senjustanley9965]

Fire Ciri still sitting in the storage

[@Jason2112100]

what kind of change is that for Isis? it's basically nothing

[@nimrodfilms5104]

I know buffing Iris is questionable, but it is absolutely CRIMINAL that there is a monster that awakens into speed that still only has 105 speed....

[@jaredcrabb]

2 to be exact. Even Lagmaron has 110 spd. Now Astar will to. I hope they get at least 100 some day though, I wanna use Lapis and Lanett more given I devilmoned them (and I DONT regret it at all). Thinking about it, I wonder if theyll ever give one of the golems a spd awakening just to be insulting.

[@jaredcrabb]

Bagel, dont get mad at the guy who was forced to type this, probably plays the game too, and feels the exact same way. Also, BEST BALANCE PATCH EVER!!!!!!!!! Lapis and Lanett can be runed easier now. Yes, Savannah had res awakening. Ive even complained about it on a couple of your older videos.

[@grimdarhk]

Fuck yeah Frigate buff!

[@PeteFish-b1f]

Hardly

[@justinwhite3441]

But wait, do the beast monks crit?

[@amadistalavera2086]

Many of those buffs aren't random, they actually were asked. Take the Zeratu buff, many players played him in Vampire due to his lack of survivability, but now that he heals each turn, he will be played way more in vio.

[@qaws1106]

As an Isis owner, I am so super excited about this buff. It was the balance that is going to break her utility open. 🙄

[@jaredcrabb]

Personally the only ones I care about are the Nicki nerf (what about those who use her outside of rta, and no I dont have her) and the Lapis and Lanett (yes those are the 2 I care about) base spd buff. Theres now hope maybe Astars current awakened spd (as of typing this, I think) will be her base spd (or at least 100, someday). And the Beth nerf cause shes my favorite aunt (and yes I mean a real family member).

[@NesrocksGamingVideos]

Where do you get these notes outside the game? Can't zoom in on the steam version

[@benjaminmesserer2471]

Reddit for instance

[@omarwalwan]

Chasun is hurting? FALLEN BLOSSOOOOOMS

[@jaredcrabb]

*Weird girly bagel voice* "Are you hurt? FALLEN BLOSSOMS!"

[@nickmorris7376]

It was battle pass filler but those Beast Monk buffs seem huge with the strip on their skill 1.

[@owenfifield92]

wording for light ciri passive makes it seem like it might stack two per turn

[@jaredcrabb]

Probably does.

[@leeqingen]

It is a pretty good balance patch, can you imagine how many turns the brownie magicians can proc on first skill, 2nd skill and vio proc. And Dark Chimera, 2nd skill buff gains an instant turn is literally healing itself. And turn ends another heal. Pretty sick

[@jaredcrabb]

Also Lapis and Lanett will be more useable with more spd. BEST BALANCE EVER!!!!!!!!

[@jimmy_fearnot]

Can't wait to see the comeback of Fallen Blossom

[@jaredcrabb]

*Weird girly bagel voice* "Are you hurt? FALLEN BLOSSOMS!"

[@Hi-c29]

I get the thing abt farming but when 80% or more end up a flat rate legendary it becomes irritating

[@randomwannab118]

I miss when balance patches were impactful. Anymore, if a monster was bad before the balance patch, it will still be bad after, and half of them will be even worse. I have no drive to reach for anything new or fun anymore in SW. Literally every normal element nat 5 is mediocre.

[@jaredcrabb]

Cheonpyung, OGs, Zaiross, Tiana, Alicia, Seara, etc. all mediocre?

[@randomwannab118]

​@@jaredcrabb Made a tier list to think about the units I actually get excited to get: Cheongpung, Bastet, Psamathe, Teshar, Rica, Liam, Taor, Bolverk, Tiana, Alicia, Savannah, Zenobia, Verad, Nana. There's another list of monsters that I like getting but may or may not build, like Perna, Poseidon, Cierra, Zaiross, Charlotte, Beth, etc. Not that they're not good, it's just.. Been there, done that. The rest I really don't care much about at all. Even if they're good, most just aren't fun. Like Leo. He has a good win rate, but he's not fun. I've pulled him before. On multiple accounts. Just never care to actually build or use him.

[@jaredcrabb]

@@randomwannab118 Except Cierra (whos that) I actually have all of those. And yeah, most are no fun. Also, your 2nd list every monster is good, except maybe Cierra. Maybe not great, but they are still quite good, especially Charlotte. I remember the random buff she got a while ago, that was nice.

[@randomwannab118]

@@jaredcrabb Seara, lol. I work around someone named Cierra, so my mind defaulted to that spelling. The second list is a ton of fun! Very useful and pretty fun mons, but I've used them so much that I don't care about them anymore. Like Zaiross got a huge buff before too! And he's really good in PvP, I just.. don't like using him anymore. Charlotte is really one of my favorite mons in the entire game, but whenever I pull her anymore I'm like "Aww, not Cheongpung." Then like.. Any of the new mons and collab mons I care even less about. They release so much stuff that's like.. I'm going to single target dot, aoe defense break with a 40% chance, bomb with a 50% chance. Like there are nat 4s that do so much more. So I can't even be excited about new mons really anymore because it's like "Ah yeah, 2a mystic witch is better." Lol.

[@jaredcrabb]

@@randomwannab118 I felt that way myself til I pulled Cheonpyung. I do have Seara too, never been much of a fan personally.

[@KrowtennetworK]

Hey man! Great vids! Is there anyway you can turn up the volume of your videos in post edit? I have to turn my volume up to 100% to hear you. Thanks man!

[@noisyfox7590]

Bagel do you have any suggestions for how to use the light dokkaebi lord, you mentioned he’s good for curtain content. My issue with him is he feels pointless he’s a stripper with low base speed up until the pact the crt damage was only if the enemy had no buffs. He has damage reduction based on buffs as well he feel like he’s trying to do everything and doing just ok at them.

[@jaredcrabb]

Thats what I hate about Tiana personally, but she would be too damned op with more spd. I wish she would get more. I hope next balance, whatever game they play to decide the random buffs it picks her. And maybe the magic knights again.

[@PeteFish-b1f]

Triana needed a hard cast soul protection , she can still get screwed by Ancient Power

[@Zer-wz1cs]

com2us buffing dark pirate captain just to spite you!

[@twomatoesuwu]

is my dark geralt can come out now?

[@michieru51655]

started the video to hear bagels opinion on the weirdness of buffs Sticks around to hear about rant involving Com2US padding out their patch notes with filler

[@schliperko]

They buff things that dont need buffs (Josephine) and they nerf things that dont need nerfed (Water Dokaibe Lord) and dont buff things that need buffed ( Leona and Dark Totemist). So annoying

[@shortys0084]

Water dokkaebi wasnt nerfed tho?

[@PeteFish-b1f]

And Lydia

[@savagelove1939]

Maybe he means the s1 of all dokaeibi​@@shortys0084

[@Andrew-cs1td]

@@shortys0084stun chance on s1 was halved.

[@jaredcrabb]

Isnt Josephine getting a buff? And does she really even need it? Ive never heard "shes too weak" complaints. Always the opposite.

[@deadsealvl3983]

For Beth the change to increased dots will make her do more damage now with her other buff.

[@biogopher]

but she already would have done more damage with the other buff. She was made so she gets bonus damage with any buff, so we dont need continuous damage anymore...so they buff continous damage proc rate? I think it comes out in the wash but id rather have the acc for S3 to get a def break which gives the 50% already

[@randomwannab118]

@@biogopher Mm I think it helps either way. S2 increased chance to dot means the remaining extra attacks will deal more damage. It's still a buff of damage. It just won't be as noticeable without the defense break anyways. Makes for a better PvE buff than PvP imo.

[@biogopher]

@@randomwannab118 i agree its more of a pve buff than pvp but unless youre using your s2 before s3 and any other mon with an aoe debuff I dont think its better. S3 has 2 debuffs with 100% activation rate already with def break obviously ideal. Maybe ill use her in toa like belanus but i think ill miss the free accuracy

[@randomwannab118]

​@@biogopher Ah yeah, I feel that. She definitely feels like a Skill 3 unit, but consider this. She could S2, s3, s2. Her skill 390% damage before the 1.5x multiplier. Her s3 only 480% total. Also her skill 2 applies negative effects, skill 3 reducing enemy atb by negative effects. Her s3 is definitely great, but it feels like it should be used after debuffs are already on the enemy in PvE situations. Her S2 could do really well from setup of a different defense break. I typically use Asima, Beth, and Asima s3->s2, Beth S2 just kills everything. Now (because of the other change) everyone can use that combo because all they need is a defense break instead of defense break and dots. So I could see a lot more use in her skill 2 first (but again.. Extra dots really don't change this much). That said, I will also miss the accuracy boost. Honestly, it would have been nice if they kept both, but then that'd just be another buff for Asima.

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@randomwannab118 Everyone can use Asima Beth combo? Am I misunderstanding that particular sentence?

[@Fir3blayd]

Happy to see a ritsu buff. Not thinking it will help much, but at least they realize he is awful. Glad byung didn't get hit too hard. He's enjoyable to use. Really sad to see tessa nerf. One of my most used units.

[@jaredcrabb]

Who is Ritsu? Its right there but for the life of me I just cant fucking remember. Also, whos Byung? And Tessa, do you mean Tesarion? If so, that looks like a buff to me.

[@Lp0tr33]

Is there a nerf counter? I think the top 5*s are Nicki and Veronica with 5 nerfs and Dark Ryu with 4. And these Dark Ryu/ Wind Ryu buffs are sooooo troll.

[@jaredcrabb]

Beth I believe also has 4. I think Com2us hates OGs, people who dont rta, and my favorite aunt.

[@aehrol46]

there's only a few good ones in this. I'm more concerned/impressed that bagel posted this before the fb page posted their link to this

[@Hopps515]

Bagel chose violence to his video. Rip everyone’s 3* white runes

[@blaze2715]

But when it comes to update related purchasable packages they put the most effort.

[@darkphase7799]

Did Despair not land on a glancing hit before? Or is it a nerf to Despair?

[@Renkencen]

So wait, my Zeratu already have vampire rune, would that new 10% heal add to it or make no different? Also great, Fire Pudding Princess isn't a decent healer anymore...

[@Voxtel]

Youd heal from the vampire runes, then once it ends you heal 10% extra

[@randomwannab118]

I think it's 10% of your max HP at the end of your turn... which is weird because most people build him on damage, so that 10% heal is basically nothing. Maybe it forces you to switch back to Violent? Also the other change is weird because most people build him on 100% crit rate.

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@randomwannab118 100% is good for anything damage just in case anyway. But the heal gives him sustain so you can rune as you please (can still do vampire for sustainability). Id probably go swift or fatal as those are my best damage runes.

[@isaac3000]

YES JEW IT SUCKS THAT LIGHT EIVOR GOT THE CELIA TREATMENT BECAUSE I HAVE 3 LD5s and 2 of them are Celia and Eivor light, 😡🤬😈👿

[@AyetCortez]

feels bad man... those ld with nat4 fam are inevitably gonna get that treatment.

[@isaac3000]

@@AyetCortez it does and yeah I suppose so 🤕

[@Aripar]

Love the new style of not being able to see the whole thing at once!

[@DarkosaDarkRave]

I'm starting to think that Com2us might hate Beth. First they changed her heal block to cleanse block. Now they remove her acc on awakening for some shitty dot chance and make her skill 3 even more useless.

[@jaredcrabb]

I know right. Shes my favorite of the hell ladies cause I have a close family member named Elizabeth. I think they also hate the OGs and people who dont rta. And for that matter the magic knights cause how fucking long was it that they got a stat balance (theyre nat 4s with nat 2 stats. Base Tati has the same atk, and more def and spd than Lapis). And they still need one.

[@eduardonava8905]

Yo bagel when would they be releasing the sw version of the witcher units ?

[@resterreese3341]

gapsoo nerf is kind of undeserving with the prevalence of healing units in the game

[@atrain2345]

I literally just pulled Nicki too , 😢

[@bronsonhale5582]

Lol wasn't that bad of a nerf

[@bronsonhale5582]

Gz nicki

[@jaredcrabb]

And I dont even have her yet. Shes always been my most wanted monster

[@randomwannab118]

Dark Shadowcaster gets a turn when the Shadow Trapped enemy gets a turn, replacing the enemy's turn. Why would decreasing its attack speed be a good thing? Doesn't that take away from half of your passive?

[@jlth5]

May not have been understood that the Hollyberry / Macaron Shield effect change was a nerf. You want her slow af while in "shield state" to keep allies taking less damage. Terrible nerf.

[@jonyongkkkl5119]

My LD4s who are actually LD5s : Dark Pirate captain, Light blade dancer, Dark Robo, Light dice magician, dark string master, light lich, dark giant warrior. My LD5s who are actually LD4s : dark sky dancer, light mage, dark fairy king. kinda suck to get 3 mediocre LD5s in 10 years, also all three are wrong colours.

[@jaredcrabb]

Double Leah, probably triple d robo, quintuple Mirinae, octa Halphas (yes com2us likes giving him to me), double Amarna. Yes I spend a lot. Theres more but Im stoned and cant remember them all. Also cause Leahs not a nat 5, shes a nat 10. From what I hear, and have seen, youre ld 5s are actually quite powerful (if not op, Nyx). Mine are Zerath, apparently Leona, I cant even remember 2 of the other 5, so probably them too. Also, getting them right after a nerf (Veronica), then them getting another nerf, sucks. Alexandria (who happened to be from a free scroll, like Zerath was) was a nice consolation prize though. I even got her right after a buff.

[@devilman6668]

Kinda wish we could get skill updates on some 3 and 4 star units to increase variety, but nope.

[@thebingthing8421]

Zeratu gets a buff 😂🎉

[@erichindy8688]

Biggest takeaway from this balance patch: farm runes

[@jaredcrabb]

Biggest takeaway from anything swsa related: FARM RUNES!!!!! Except the one guy, that was 6* BUILD MORE MONSTERS!!!!

[@lazaruce2204]

com2us wants your fallen blossom again bagel luls

[@jaredcrabb]

*Weird girly bagel voice* "Are you hurt? FALLEN BLOSSOMS!"

[@Azombiebaby]

The fact that the Isis one was literally c2u being a troll 😂 or a more blatent filler to make it look like a big patch

[@papayacrabs8675]

all i can think of its that now juno cant get spd buff. which may b nice...if u have her

[@Azombiebaby]

@@papayacrabs8675 Ohh true, I didn't think of that. Still not the change she needed though xD even more so now Tesa can 3 turn oblivion, Light DQ will remain a storage guardian

[@papayacrabs8675]

@@Azombiebaby eh, i use her, tho im only p1 rn. She can b a great last pick. good for arena, toa hell and rly nice in the new toa content. by no means an op ld5 but def not a storage unit

[@jaredcrabb]

​@@AzombiebabyUse them both?

[@jacobwalters6641]

Insanely disappointed not to mention my despair set can potentially go to shit I rely on my rng stun heavy😂

[@Diopside.]

Tbh I saw this coming, too much cc already in the game, if u are stripped then u get cuckd

[@SoccYT]

They keep nerfing shit that doesnt need nerfing and dancing around touching the underutilized shit.

[@karolusmagnus8405]

The filler is strong with this one. They need to nerfs violent procs in siege. No matter how tanky your mobs are if they're attacked 3 times per enemy..... They're dead or if the healer has the S3 always available, they will never die. . Tell me I'm wrong.....

[@chrismeadows1880]

Maybe in low siege in higher siege doesn't matter how many times the def procs if u lose u brought the wrong comp. if they made it to where siege def units can only proc once siege would become way too easy.. so u r wrong.

[@karolusmagnus8405]

@@chrismeadows1880 you don't even need to be that high in siege, Conqueror + becomes a nightmare due to faster defenses, that's why there nerfed Ganymede way back in season 2-3 of RTA if you RECALL and water Onmiouji more recently. So no, violent procs are broken. That's why they limited procs in RTA, just FYI.

[@Arthrexx]

@@karolusmagnus8405 Skill issue. If you really had decent understanding on how to play around certain teams, they can proc 3 times each and not leave a scratch on your units. Why should it matter if Savannah procs 5 times into a def scaling team? She will do no damage regardless and not even def break them. Bring Leo to make it free entirely. Shaina procs 4 times? Well, guess my Windy is going to take 2000 damage or so because he can't be def broken.

[@karolusmagnus8405]

@@Arthrexx that's why violent runes made them god tear. He gained a turn innately, prior to nerf, I know, I was there, 3000 years ago. Now I ask, who TF uses Ganymede?

[@RukoS-xy6jo]

Having skill issue doesn't mean they'll just ignore the no vio proc limit. You mean high siege is the only one thats important and fk everything else? Economy will fall with brains like yours.

[@squidfacts961]

Most of my units got buffed in this so that's nice

[@precursorsofhate8460]

Also fire Barbaric King was skill balanced .

[@ProsyMe]

Yes, every single defense has byungchol in it because he has 15% too much stun chance. No one at com2us is playing sw because they know it's just a dumb scam

[@atahernandez2520]

fallen blossom..bagel voice*

[@jaredcrabb]

*Weird girly bagel voice* "Are you hurt? FALLEN BLOSSOMS!"

[@0Christ1]

Here we go, battle angel is fallen angel now :)

[@randomwannab118]

It's such a sad nerf. I have her on an alt (which admittedly has mediocre runes), but I can't really use her much. I don't really RTA, but I've figured strip and increase cd would be nice in regular arena. But how would you do that? You'd need speed lead, attack buff, defense break, and damage. Having Veronica as a damage won't work because nothing's defense broken. So Bastet, Veronika, Beth/Asima/Savannah/Liesel Damage dealing speed lead that can deal enough to kill all enemies. I guess you could speed lead, Bastet, Lushen, Veronica, but even still there's not enough damage there because your speed lead won't be ignoring defense. And the "go to" damage dealing speed lead (Psamathe) here already increases cooltime. Pretty much an RTA only unit? But her other skills don't seem fitting for RTA.

[@robertv6628]

Water Paladin is already op no need to buff her.

[@T-puma]

Nice Vid, not happy seeing a bunch of LDs getting buffed that really didn't need it while nerfing mons that didn't need nerfing. Im uninstalled as I find Vio Proc for AI defense incredibly high ( Arena, Siege, and I think world guild war? ) In low Rta im facing lots of people with overpowered Lds. Can't even farm coins properly which is why I even do Rta

[@asianlikesboba]

Light eivor needs a buff

[@eddy796]

The huge Beth buffs are surprising, she’s the weakest of her sisters but these buffs look good. Shocked they refuse to buff light pirate cap, but keep giving fire more and more boons

[@AyetCortez]

she only got carried by the asima buff. that's all.

[@chazlemley5103]

I'm not sure I like the Beth changes for RTA. The skill changes likely are helpful, but reducing her accuracy lowers her utility in RTA for me at least (I'm probably one of the few who liked her accuracy awakening)

[@jaredcrabb]

Thats a nerf to Beth actually.

[@gagereinhardt8969]

What a weird buff for chimera

[@Detosurvivors]

Where is jackson??