Balancing with BBs

For many years I have had the auto shop balance my tires.
Today I want to try something different.
I have heard about some companies making beads that you put into your tire and they will dynamically balance your tires on the fly.
Where I live it is a little hard to find these things, so I am going to try to use some air rifle BB's.
This is strictly an experiment to see what it will do.
In this video I am going to show you how I get them into the tires and I will watch them for a year or so and see how they last.
UPDATE:
I took the tires off the car (2009 Kia Rio5) after the first winter and opened one side of one tire. As far as I can see there is absolutely no wear inside the tire from the beads, and as expected there is no marks on the tire valve as it is on the rim, and the beads themselves have a bit of dust on them but there are no broken pieces anywhere, so I guess it works well for these tires. I reseated the tire and put all four away again for the summer.

[@Godly_Man]

Although I'd considered it, I use ceramic balancing beads, which I had to buy online because the local brick and mortar stores either didn't have a clue or discourages DIY'ing which diverts potential income from their service industry revenue stream. With that said, I've never seen anyone use a simple block of wood to keep a tire's bead in the wheel's valley and away from the rim's edge. I might even cut a curved strip out of a solid 1-by hardwood, as a slight improvement. I've spent money on extra tire irons and even bought a "Yellow Tire Thing" for the safety ... I don't need OSHA to tell me that free flying tire iron to the face is a bad thing. Anyway, thanks for sharing buddy, and may the Lord continue to bless you as His Own. Amen.

[@darrylsiemer5666]

Nice video - this approach to tire balancing really does work & will save you lots of money & time in the future. I've been doing the same thing (even have/use the same Harbor Freight tire mounter) using Daisy's standard "silver" (galvanized steel) 0.177" BBs for the last ten years. These BBs are about 10x cheaper than the ceramic "Dyna beads" specifically sold for that purpose & last at least as long as do the tires. (I put about 2oz - 25 cents worth - of them in 13" rim tires).

[@turuauctions1880]

I am interested in the type that you use but I haven't found them yet. Are these the same->www.walmart.com/ip/Daisy-6000ct-BB-Ammo/15729973#about-item

[@teresapeabody2746]

Finally someone who gives some useful information on this. 1. Can it be done on smaller tires, 2. How many balance beads do I need.

[@boneyardwoodturning1811]

Like he said 1 oz per 13 lbs his tire and rim was 35 lbd so he use 2.7 oz of beads just have to weight your tire and rim

[@jurikristjouw]

This has got to be the best kept secret for tire service shops... I love it!

[@bacardimgtow4505]

I'm a car guy, plus I've been changing my own tires and balancing (with shop grade machines/tools) for over a decade. I've never even heard of balancing BB's till last week. Unbelievable how it flew under my radar.

[@justadbeer]

Lol. I tried that with my 33" Jeep tires. Didn't work despite all the hoopla. All the Jeep and 4x4 forums said use a "small shot glass" full of BB's. You could hear them roll around at low speeds. As I gained speed, instead of spreading out as everyone thinks they should, they all gather in one area and I started to get a "Whump-Whump" and a terrible out of balance situation, and this was at about 45 mph. Also the gyro effect made it very hard to turn, even changing lanes was dangerous.

[@johndooley8837]

You needed at least 4 times that much if not more for those tires, it works for me.

[@gmctech]

Having turned wrenches professionally for over 20 years I like this... I NEVER balance my new tires. never ever ever. I always put about 100km on them first then balance them.... you wouldn't believe the difference this makes... I dunno why but it does, but this system has me interested as that would negate my system! my next set I install for myself is going to get this treatment for s-h-i-t-s and giggles!

[@dumbeezy5480]

what are the pros of driving them 100km first then balancing them?

[@Hman9876]

@@dumbeezy5480 ill weigh in my experience from working in a tire shop. Tires develop flat spots when in storage and transport. Once installed, pressurized, and driven on, those flat spots will smoothen out and regain normal shape. Also, tires can rotate on the wheel while the tire lube is still fresh. These reasons can change the balance of a tire shortly after installation.

[@dumbeezy5480]

@@Hman9876 Gotcha, thank you. Ill keep that mind

[@bobsbarnworkshop]

I put real ceramic balancing beads in my Astro van tires (215/75r15) and they were good up to 60mph, but on the freeway at higher speeds I got a LOT of shaking and vibration... they would smooth out but then go around a curve and the shaking would start again. So I took them out.

[@pemlars]

Thank you for a very well done video. Not much unnecessary talk! Very often I turn into videos with so much unnecessary talking that I turn it off. Once again; very well done. The tool for the tires was also very interesting. I will try this metod on my Citroen 2cv. There are really small tires, 125 x 15", and are difficult to ballance.

[@robertbaisagale1685]

Radiator coolant will do the same job as well

[@dennismadigan2023]

I often wondered if this would work. I drove Tractor trailer and the shops sold rings with bb's in them that mounted on the rims to balance the tires. The owner operators swore by them because they gave them the best ware on their tires. So I understand the concept and will be trying this myself

[@PaulPomerleau]

I use something similar for my motorcycle: www.centramatic.com/wheel-balancer.rhtml?modelNumber=MV100-106 Thanks for watching.

[@dennismadigan2023]

Paul Pomerleau yep thats what there called at truck shops.

[@dennismadigan2023]

Your welcome. Thanks for doing the test.

[@lemans3507]

It would be interesting to take the tire to a shop and put it on a balance machine and see if it balances.

[@thomashughes4859]

It balances at whichever speed based upon centrifugal forces. A static tyre won't work.

[@muhammadbasir83]

I have been waiting for almost 6 years now.

[@PaulPomerleau]

Wow, that's a long time to wait. My findings are published in the description.

[@msloan1972]

For car and truck tires, try 3 golf balls per tire. Works like a charm.

[@INNO222]

My tires are 235/45/18. Still 3 per tire? Thanks

[@JpOcDenver]

Falling Knife Stocks Ulur aspect ratio may be too small for balance beads (or balls in this case). I read it should be 65+, otherwise use regular wheel weights. Not sure why, just what I read ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@thomashughes4859]

Try the same mass but with a liquid that can withstand high temps. It's even more fluid. Though Hg is super dangerous, I bet it would work. It would be an interesting experiment. Thanks, Paul!

[@teodiofauss5806]

Neumaticos montados y equilibrados en manera dinamica con bolitas de airsoft de 0,28 gramos y 6 mm. de diametro en un Peugeot 206 del 2002 1.4 HDI que monta neumaticos de 14 pulgadas (175/65 R14 82T). Funciona muy bien, no tembla ni a 150 km/h (que ya es demasiada velocidad por este cochesito). Las proporciones son la del video de Paul, traducidas en sistema metrico decimal son iguales a 4,8 gramos de bolitas por cada kg. de ruedas de equilibrar. Llanta y neumatico van pesados conjunto. Yo pondria tambien un poquito mas, 5 - 5,5 gramos por kg. de rueda. Gracias de todo Paul!!!

[@mallorylangford7699]

Thanks for the video. Im going air soft and darkside too ! Good luck !

[@capumetuwilliams4015]

I have a Geo Metro with 12" tires. I purchased Crosman .2 gram balls, put in 1.7 oz first but vehicle shimmied some, installed 3.3 more making it 5 oz total, shimmied worse. I wouldn't recommend it, as it didn't work for me.

[@boomstickkid]

How has this held up over the years? I balanced my truck tires with bbs but I was always told most car tires do not have enough sidewall for the bbs to work properly. Im looking to do this on a Ford Focus. I don’t want vibrations. Thanks.

[@michaeldose2041]

I just changed out a set of tires on my Camaro after 50k miles. The BB's (I used air soft .25g) worked perfectly. I vacuumed them out just so I could see what they looked like. Result: For the most part still working as desired. There were a few, as in five or six that had split in half. I can't say for sure but I suppose they were still migrating with the rest. Just changed out the tires and put in new BBs. I used 4.5 oz.

[@screwsnutsandbolts]

Great video ! 👍🏻

[@maxwellspeedwell2585]

If the rim weighs 18#, how much does the wheel weigh?

[@dudeimsquid1793]

Completely unrelated but your shoe game is on point. 👌

[@wesklippert2333]

Cant wait to see when you open the tire to look inside.

[@PaulPomerleau]

Already did. I mentioned it in my past comments. Everything looked good. We are currently on our second winter with them. Thanks for watching.

[@wesklippert2333]

+Paul Pomerleau awesome. Thanks for the reply

[@teodiofauss5806]

Gomme montate e equilibratura dinamica perfetta, l'auto non trema neanche a 150 km/h (direi che dato l'automobilina che é sia sufficente). É un Peugeot 206 2002 1.4 HDI e monta pneumatici 175/65 R14 82T. Ho usato le proporzioni che da qua nel video Paul, il quale ringrazio per tutto. Tradotte in misure metriche decimali equivalgono a 4,8 grammi di pallini da airsoft per ogni Kg. di ruota (ruota e cerchione pesati congiunti). In questo caso sono 12,7 Kg. a ruota e ho quindi usato per equilibrarle 61 grammi di pallini da airsof l'una, pallini da 0,28 grammi e 6 mm. di diametro. Credo che sia anche meglio arrotondare a 5 - 5,5 grammi al Kg. per ruota. Aggiorneró prossimamente sul funzionamento o meno dell'equilibratura dinamica (anche se a mio avviso si basa su un ottimo principio fisico e l'ho giá visto funzionare ottimamente sul camion), aggiungendo i suddetti pallini nelle gomme di altre auto e della mia yamaha R6. Thanks for all Paul!!!!

[@safetyfirstintexas]

anyone used shotgun shot? lowbased #6 mesured 1 oz. per shell. pretty cheap too.

[@michaeltillman958]

Paul, hope you still monitor this channel.. I am thinking abiut doing this today. 1oz of beads per 13lbs tire: where did you get this formula? Also, have you done this on any tires you left on vechiles for a considerable amount of time? What was the outcome?

[@PaulPomerleau]

If you search around for tire balance beads, some will tell you the amount per weight. I found that to be a bit on the low side, it doesn't hurt to put in a bit more. The beads will place themselves when turning. I have mine on my winter tires, so they are only used from November till April. They are still in there since I made this video and still work as they are supposed to. Mind you, we are retired, so we don't put on the miles that we used to.

[@jakevipond3938]

I just did the same thing on some big jeep tires last night. I used the green airsoft beads. I didn't do any calculations as far as amount of beads, I just used about half a bottle in each tire(about 2500). We'll see how it goes lol

[@taylorwhedon9486]

How did it go?

[@Golgi-Gyges]

I just did this myself. I used the high density ones (.25 grams).

[@bobirving6052]

How is your ride at high speeds?

[@Golgi-Gyges]

@@bobirving6052 it was good

[@johnwireson115]

Companies sell these beads as well but most if not all of them don't recommend them for low profile tires (R60 or less). Is this true or will they work fine on any tire?

[@PaulPomerleau]

I agree with that. Beads work best in the middle of the tires, so they are less effective when you get into wide tires.

[@Flussig1]

Great video, thank you !

[@garymahon1955]

Interesting! Thanks!

[@hankbennett5536]

Hey Paul, loved the video. I was wondering, since more than a year has passed, have you had a chance to take these tires back off the rims? If so, what did you find inside inside the tire as far as the beads breaking up or damage to the rim or tire?

[@PaulPomerleau]

At the time of this video I put the beads in the winter tires for my wifes car (Kia Rio 5). The next spring I took the tires off the car and opened one side of one tire. There was no wear inside the tire from the beads, and there was no marks on the tire valve as it is on the rim, and the beads themselves had a bit of dust on them but there were no broken pieces anywhere. I reseated the tire and put all four away for the summer and am using them again this winter and all is good. Thanks for watching.

[@lewisjudah990]

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[@lawrenceridge3907]

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[@lewisjudah990]

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[@lewisjudah990]

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[@famillebussieres-mainville4831]

Good video Paul. How do the BB's stand up after a few years now? Cheers from Vaudreuil Quebec Canada!

[@PaulPomerleau]

4 years later and they are still working great. Thanks for watching.

[@thomashughes4859]

@@PaulPomerleau WOW!

[@MAGWolf]

How would the beads come out. Valve stem in the tire would prevent that.

[@PaulPomerleau]

The other companies that sell tire beads make them small enough to insert through the valve stem making it easier to install but sometimes they get stuck in the valve and when you are taking a pressure reading they block the valve or they come shooting out. This is why they advise you to replace the valve stem with a filtered one. Since the beads I am using are bigger they won't get stuck in the valve but you also have to pop the tire from the rim to put them in. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching.

[@Godly_Man]

Oh, yeah. They may not come all the way out but I've had them travel back out enough that they kept the valve stem from seating during a routine fill. The beads bounce around when the tire rides over bumps and through potholes. So, for that reason I use the long valve stems regardless of the type of mechanical filter tip on them.

[@philoso377]

Has anyone experienced bb can’t handle wobble stability tires very well?

[@CharlesGauthier]

Hi Paul, Well done video. Any update on how this worked out?

[@PaulPomerleau]

These have been in the winter tires for 2 years now. I took the tires off the car after the first winter and opened one side of one tire. As far as I can see there is absolutely no wear inside the tire from the beads, and as expected there is no marks on the tire valve as it is on the rim, and the beads themselves have a bit of dust on them but there are no broken pieces anywhere, so I guess it works well for these tires. I reseated the tire and put all four away again for the summer.

[@MrJeepmarine]

I wonder if actual metal bb's would work. Are they copper or brass. Not sure if they would corrode or not.

[@PaulPomerleau]

I am thinking the lighter the material the more bb's you can put inside to equal the same weight and the more coverage / distribution of them. But that is just my way of thinking. It would be a good study to do though. Thanks for watching.

[@TorquePowerVideo]

I have that same tire mounting tool. Bought it over a decade ago from Harbor Freight. I only have the one red mounting/dismounting tool that came with it. What's the black one you were using to mount the tire?

[@PaulPomerleau]

It is a Mojo Lever from www.mojotiretools.com It won't scratch alloy rims since there is no steel on steel.

[@noidea1962]

Imma gonna call BS on the sub 12 second tire change! LOL

[@PaulPomerleau]

Haha... yeah, I can't move that fast anymore.

[@bobirving6052]

Yeah. Now that he is a little slower he does it in 12 minutes

[@danielsmith5351]

Excellent

[@jonathang541]

Have you broken the tires down to see if there is any wear on the beads or the inside of the tire after a few months of use?

[@PaulPomerleau]

It has been a long winter here in my part of Canada and the winter tires are still on my wife's car. I think I will be removing them this week-end and will open it up to take a look. I am interested to see how they look as well. Thanks for the comment.

[@PaulPomerleau]

I took the winter tires off the car and opened one side of one tire. As far as I can see there is absolutely no wear inside the tire from the beads, and as expected there is no marks on the tire valve as it is on the rim, and the beads themselves have a bit of dust on them but there are no broken pieces anywhere, so I guess it works well for these tires. I reseated the tire and put all four away for the summer.

[@ClubSyNXTremeTV]

Ok about to get my rims and tires Rims are 16x7 and tire size are 225/50R16. I should be ok using this method correct?

[@PaulPomerleau]

Those are really wide tires and you may need to adjust the beads, maybe even double the weight. Beads work best when lined up in the center of the tire. That's why they work very well with motorcycle or small car tires. I have never tried it on wide tires like yours so I can not guaranty success. I'm sure others have done it.

[@cyberexposure7168]

Does it matter whether the airsoft bbs are seamed or unseamed?

[@PaulPomerleau]

I was not aware that Airsoft bbs came in "seamed". The ones I am using are solid one piece with no seams. I would imagine you could try the seamed type to see how they work and check on them every so often to see how they are fairing. Please let me know your findings and I will post them to my video. Thanks for watching.

[@MrMindlink]

Update Please.

[@PaulPomerleau]

It's all in the description box. Thanks for watching.

[@thekracken4572]

They might work for awhile but I have doubts about the long term. Airsoft BB's break pretty easy in my experience. If they can't roll because they are split they won't work properly. I haven't used the high density ones so I don't know if they break as easy as the standard weight ones.

[@slept-on_SP]

Seam-less High density .2g bb's from what ive read on some tire forums those are the best, no specific brand as long as theyre seam-less high density ones. Any bb's that you can see through generally arent high desnity and the seam on them are visibly clear.

[@ClubSyNXTremeTV]

Does this really work? I have a mitsubishi eclipse GS 2007 and I am about to purchase a brand new set of rims and tires. This looks so simple

[@PaulPomerleau]

The beads work best when lined up together. Curved motorcycle tires are the best type to line them up. Narrow tires are good too, so they work very nice on my wife's Kia Rio with the smaller tires. But when I tried them on my Pontiac Grand Prix with the wider tires they didn't work. However some other Pontiac drivers told me that they just double the amount of beads and no problems. I have not tried that yet. The Dynabeads site will give you a good starting point for your tire size.

[@ClubSyNXTremeTV]

Thank you for this info. Much appreciated!

[@jrfun4647]

dynabeads, checkeredbeads or any of them brands do not recommend them for any Cars,Suv or Minivan, but nobody will say why,is not for all sizesjust eather very small or very big, I want to find out if they just don't work or if can cause damage ?

[@truenorthjeep]

What's 1 year review?

[@PaulPomerleau]

They were on my wife's winter tires and in the spring I opened one up and saw no damage or wear on anything inside. Everything was still good. Now that winter is here again I am putting them on again for the second season. So far so good.

[@thebanjoman1963]

It's been more than a year.. what about a followup??

[@PaulPomerleau]

I put many followups in the comments and in the description box below. To summarize, all worked out well. No bead damage, no internal wear and tires are still riding smooth. Thanks for watching.

[@Bass.Player]

How well does that changer work for your motorcycle tires?

[@PaulPomerleau]

I have the motorcycle adapter for it. It works well.

[@Bass.Player]

I wish you would do a video on that next time you do tires

[@PaulPomerleau]

I did. Here are the links: Front wheel change - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5zaiIpviZ6Harc Front tire change - kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6i2qpaIoMSYftk Hope this helps.

[@Bass.Player]

Got it thanks

[@mikemm03]

@@PaulPomerleau Yep the front tire on the big bikes are a piece of cake, now show us the unedited video of the rear wheel removal, rear tire removal, new rear tire install and wheel reinstall. It's a "bit" more difficult, especially if it's 200 or so series tire.

[@fatillacing4131]

Your calculations don't take into account the en"tire" weight. Wheel and tire are 35 pounds but then you've got at least 28 pounds of air in them. Do you take the weight of the air into the calculation?

[@PaulPomerleau]

Whoa... 28 pounds of air?!? I don't think so. A car tire with a 15 inch rim might have an extra ounce of weight with pressurized air in it, not enough to worry about. Google it. Here I will help you: www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-08/998945256.Ch.r.html

[@thomashughes4859]

@@PaulPomerleau LOVE this video, Paul! Thanks for sharing ... please allow me to help with the hows and whys the air in the tyre cannot possibly weight 28 lbs. First, a column of air with an area measuring a square inch and about 435 miles high at sea level weighs a mere 14.7 lbs. So after all the maths, one comes up with about 0.00001471 g per cm^3. Not very heavy. Second, we have to get a "roughly" of the air volume inside of your tyre. Here it goes!: A tyre is a geometric figure known as a _torus_ . The volume of a torus is the same as the volume of a cylinder wrapped into a circle, so the formula is 2π^2 Rr^2. (Look up the torus area for the explanation) His Kia has different tire sizes, but they won't vary much for our discussion. I used the 205/55 R 16. If we calculate the volume of the "inner tube" were this tyre to have one, we need the following: So, 20.5 cm is the _footprint_ as they say, and the 55 is 55% of that footprint. We now have the "circle" of the inner tube, and now we need the length of the inner tube, which runs through the centre. That is about 50.39 cm (16" + 1/2 20.5 cm). Now, we fill in the formula. 2(3.14)^2 * 50.39 * 10.25 = 10,195.25 cm^3. We multiply that times our weight of air, and Voilà ! : ~ 0.15 grams of air per tyre (+/-) (0.0053 ounces) And Bob's your uncle! Ain't much, is it! Thanks again for the video! I like your tyre-bustin' contraption to boot! P.S. I am a physics teacher, and your BBs video with this question gave me some great material for my students! Thanks both of you! :D

[@fryncyaryorvjink2140]

Could you just pour a little sand in?

[@PaulPomerleau]

I don't think that would work. It doesn't move as freely as bb's and it would clump together when it gets wet from the temperature change of driving.

[@porkchopspapi5757]

Maybe I missed it but why not use actual bb's? Would cost about 30 cents a wheel.

[@PaulPomerleau]

I think metal bb's would be very noisy inside a wheel, also the plastic airsoft bb's are lighter therefore you would need more for the same amount of weight and they would cover more of the areas needed inside the wheel to better balance.

[@porkchopspapi5757]

@@PaulPomerleau Ah so.

[@bobirving6052]

I haven’t heard any noise from metal bbs

[@porkchopspapi5757]

@@bobirving6052 how well did they work?

[@johnevon8220]

Does nobody see his diabolical plot! He's using his wife's car as a test platform. I bet he upped her life insurance.

[@dustyroads834]

The old timers just put a pint of antifreeze in their tires.

[@hankbennett5536]

Haha wow is that a real thing?

[@Jigsaw_knows]

I've used zinc bbs from wallmart. I've driven thousands of miles on them. Thousands of uber pickups. Problem is they make noise. I havent but I'm going to use anti freeze next. Sounds logical and will be quieter.

[@Jigsaw_knows]

Use anti freeze. Its quieter.

[@DN-zh1bv]

That's genius. I just bought a car that needs teh wheels balanced.. I just thought of an easy way to load it in too.. cut open an old empty can of fix a flat from the bottom, turn upside down and use it as a funnel. This will save me a lot of work. Thanks!

[@matthewsorella1816]

Hey, No need to start weighing tires. Just use this link, it will give to the value your looking for. ( www.imiproducts.com/wp-content/themes/imi/assets/pdf/equal/EQUAL-Wall-Chart_3-15.pdf )

[@MrMrsregor]

only if you have 33" tire or larger, drive a commercial truck, or drive a crane

[@THX..1138]

DynaBeads' website has a tire chart too, it covers a lot of car, truck, and trailer tires. I use a bubble balancer and stick on weights to balance my car tires, but have been putting airsoft bbs in my trailer tires for years now, it works great.

[@cal30m1]

This must be an April fool’s joke.

[@PaulPomerleau]

Nope.

[@EricErnst]

How did this work?

[@PaulPomerleau]

Very good. I verified the beads are still in great condition and I have used them for 2 winters now in my wifes car.

[@EricErnst]

Paul Pomerleau I've used BBs for a few years but haven't broken down the tires since. I use them in mud tires with big lugs. As far as mud tires go, they are relatively small. Just 33x14-16. I arbitrarily use about 1 1/4lbs... about 20 oz compared to your 2.7oz. The bbs that i use come in 5lb containers. It seems to compensate very well for chunks of lugs coming off.

[@PeterBaumgart1a]

The 1 oz. per 13 lb. rule has got to be very coarse. First, that number should depend on the size of the wheel (the radius at which the beads are sitting), plus on what maximum imbalance (weight) one might expect for a given wheel. For example, in the rare (but not impossible) event of a perfect balance to start with, i.e. w/o any weights or beads, any amount of weights or beads is unnecessary.

[@therockinjunkieshow1391]

Depends on the size of the TIRE.

[@panjualede]

Hi Paul, Did you try to balanced the tires with the beads inside after installing them, on a balancing machine?

[@PaulPomerleau]

No I didn't. I installed them on the car and drove on the highway and they were smooth. Maybe I should, it would be interesting to see how close it is compared to the balance machine.

[@panjualede]

I read on the dynabeads website, that they actually works better with the weights on. Like is more balanced that way, but the question asked on the site was, if before adding the beads i should take the weights off, and the response was: No. Now i put the beads but still are giving me shimmy at 60km so i was wondering if getting the beads out and then balance it with the machine and then put the beads again or do it with the beads inside, i was wondering if the machine will not work.

[@PaulPomerleau]

Depending on how fast the machine spins the tire. If it was me I would take the beads out, have it balanced and then put the beads back in. I have never seen both done at the same time. I use the beads so I don't have the ugly weights on my wheels and I can do it myself, but I suppose the beads would assist the weights. You may not need the same quantity of beads with the weights on.

[@ToplessTattoo]

I use airsoft bbs

[@jason.arthur.taylor]

Here's how they work www.quora.com/How-do-tire-wheel-balancing-beads-work/answer/Jason-Taylor-16 .

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

I don't know HOW this works ... I don't understand how the beads will spread out evenly within the tire to balance it ..?? None of it makes any sense ... sorry .. !!

[@PaulPomerleau]

Here is a video example of how it works. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6KVZ2Z3jsysj8k

[@GospelGary]

You initially stated 2.7 ounces of bead per wheel. Then you weighed both a tire and wheel separately, and then stated their combined weight...but stated "wheel" again, not tire. In automotive circles, a wheel & tire together are referred to as a wheel & tire combination. So what are you measuring? You statements are very confusing to me. #basicclaritymatters

[@PaulPomerleau]

The rubber part is called a "Tire". The steel part is called a "Rim". Together they are called a "Wheel". At least it is in all of North America where I come from.

[@GospelGary]

@@PaulPomerleau Nay, the rim is the outer part of the wheel; it is welded to the center. Correct Terminology Matters

[@PaulPomerleau]

Google "car rims" and see what comes up. It will be the steel part that bolts to the hub of your car. Again, in North America it is. I am done with this. Thank you for watching.

[@GospelGary]

@@PaulPomerleau Google is irrelevant. Correct terminology is, in my book.

[@carlshultz1832]

I watched your video and you said the rule of thumb is 13 Oz per pound of tire that doesn't include the rim the tire is one thing the rim and tire is the wheel. I went to the other websites that give the calculations and they always use the word tire not wheel. Looked up their definition of tire.

[@therockinjunkieshow1391]

The tire is mounted to a wheel. The tire seals against the rim on the wheel. Rim is not wheel. Rim is part of a wheel. You're welcome.

[@bobirving6052]

I remember the same info. It’s the worst of the rubber tire.

[@teodiofauss5806]

Tra due giorni provo a montare la bilanciatura dinamica sulla macchina della mia compagna, una macchina piccola un peugeot 206 del 2002. Sono curioso di vedere se funziona anche su questa e non solo su camion e fuoristrada. Provero' con i pallini da AirSoft. Le proporzioni che da lui sono 1 oncia di pallini da airsoft (di 6mm. ad alta densita' e peso 0.20 grammi) cada 13 libbre di ruota, pesa le ruote smontate e senza aria dentro chiaramente. Dovrebbero essere in grammi: 28,35 grammi di pallini ogni 5,8967 kg. di ruota. Correggetemi se non ho capito bene, grazie. Postero' in due giorni il risultato qua nei commenti tambien en castellano. Grazie Mille!! Thanks very much for the video and the experience!!! Teo Porcoddio

[@PaulPomerleau]

Ha funzionato nella mia auto ma le persone mi hanno detto che dovevano mettere altre perline al lavoro. Potrebbe essere necessario provare diversi importi. Potrebbe essere meglio installare altro. L'extra non influenzerà nulla.

[@teodiofauss5806]

Thanks a lot, I'm going to try Do you know for a little car if is more good install BB's more heavier than this, or more little?

[@PaulPomerleau]

Non andrei di meno. Lo stesso o più.

[@Jigsaw_knows]

Bbs are noisy. Use anti freeze

[@justinhan286]

No idea what is the theory that this would work. You did not explain at all.

[@PaulPomerleau]

Yes I did. Around the 1:20 mark in the video. The beads act as moving weights that spread around to where they are needed to constantly balance for the life of the tire.

[@rickdees251]

Why would you ever need buy special valves with filters on them? When your wheel is not turning gravity will cause them to be closest to the ground and the valve core is never on the bottom. IMO, only an idiot would think they need to buy special valve stems. What am I missing?

[@PaulPomerleau]

It is strange. Probably the company protecting itself in case someone takes an eye out with a bead. I actually have a picture of a hotel elevator sign that says "If the doors open and the elevator is not there, don't go in". I guess it happened a few times that they had to put a sign up.

[@rickdees251]

It is a strange topic. All I can think of is it's selling something that really isn't needed just because it makes the sellers money and there are people who will buy it. Reminds me of people believing it's a good idea or of value to spend money filling their wheels with nitrogen. (rolly eyes) Cheers mate.

[@plasmar1]

I think it's on the chance that it happens to go into the compressor line and messes the compressor

[@safetyfirstintexas]

below 5 mph there is chaos, beads everywhere.

[@Billy97ify]

Some systems use tiny beads that are poured in through the valve stem. Those could jam the valve or blow out and hurt someone when they remove the core. There is no way to know what's in the tire afterwards.

[@roguelegend1175]

When you mount a tire on a wheel and you pour in an X amount of weight in beads. How do you know the weight of the amount of beads corresponds to the specfic weight in which your tire is not in balence? For example. If you have a tire and wheel thats only 1.5 oz’s out of balence and you add a 3.5 oz bead pack.. where does your extra 2 oz’s of beads go??? Bead balencing is BS work for lazy mechanics that dont know how to balence tires and wheels. Yes weights are unsightly, but it comes down to whether you want your ride smooth or your clean weightless shaking ass wheels. We make extra money from removing BS powders beads and anything else people put in tires and balencing tires and wheels properly.

[@PaulPomerleau]

The extra beads spread out evenly inside the tire, in effect not really doing anything until needed. I would rather have too much than not enough. With active dynamic balancing it makes the tires last much longer, saving money, the environment and anyone can do it without expensive machines, win-win-win. Of course you are entitled to your opinion, all I can say with absolute fact is that they work for me. Thanks for watching.

[@dw6015]

RogueLegend The excess beads would migrate to balance the wheel, that's the whole idea. You're over thinking it.

[@ariip]

Commercial Trucking industry only uses bead balancing. So by your stupid logic, the whole industry is lazy. Most truck shops do not have machines to spin balance tires nor do they make any. Truck tires get flat spots and have too many changes during wear and would never stay in balance. Where do the extra beads go??? They just find a place evenly around the tire. ??You should educate yourself properly on a subject before calling people lazy or speaking out against information which happens to be valid.

[@thermroberts380]

Ari P, not true. I’ve been driving trucks for 16 yrs, and EVERY SINGLE truck tire shop I’ve been to has a balance machine to add weights. Don’t know where you got your information from. Now, they do also sell balance beads if you want them. Loves truck stop sells CounterAct balance beads. Don’t know what brand the others sell. But most owner operators have Centramatics installed, which is a balance ring that installs behind the rim. It’s simple. A ring with oil and beads. As you start rolling, the beads find their place in the ring, causing a balance wheel. This method supposedly balances the wheel assembly, as opposed to just balancing the wheel and rim.

[@edgargales6915]

Ahu

[@albirdie1630]

pit stop record made me laugh, lol you rock