Susser dagger cheeses him by just silencing him immediately and then you just beat him up. All the loot but no challenge
@ayoo_wassup8 ай бұрын
I totally forgot about that shit. I just did this at lvl 7 second try but on balanced. His cloudkill was kicking my ass. But a well placed hypnotized on the summons bought me enough time to sort my action economy Then i hasted into ice storm for the dex disadvantage and aoe nuked everything into oblivion next turn. Ecrusted frost ring with icestorm, then lightening bolt is such a good combo
@charlie3627 Жыл бұрын
Pushed him into the void and came here to see how someone actually fared... I would have stood no chance LMAO i was level 6
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Whenever I did that with major fights I just thought to myself "wonder what loot I missed" and then load and do the fight "properly" :D
@charlie3627 Жыл бұрын
@@Makotro0 my second run as dark urge I plan to play properly and actually grind side quests to be appropriately levelled
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
@@charlie3627 Nice, I am also currently playing my second run through as Dark Urge, monk this time around. In this video I had basically done everything I could find but on my second run through Ive found little things I missed. The game has so much to offer I honestly love it, worthy successor to 1 and 2
@existential_sad_boi10 ай бұрын
How did you get here so fast?? My wife, my friend and i were level 8 and had to reload about six or seven times. Skellies would not give up
@charlie362710 ай бұрын
@@existential_sad_boi I honestly don't remember. I did most of the side stuff in act 1 i thought too, but I didn't really do any in act 2 cos I wanted to get out of that area as fast as possible lol
@soulmaster846 Жыл бұрын
Yeah my party is lvl 6, and i couldnt win this fight. I ended up taking the fight to his office instead, which was easier. Here's what i did. Before the office fight, I talked to the necromancer to give me a bell to summon Flesh (his minion). I used Flesh to fight the devil dude, and purposefully made Flesh lose, thus removing him from the office fight. Then went into the office, closed the stone doors, and started the fight. I only had to fight a handful of his minions. Hope this helps anyone!
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Good tips for anyone who hasnt grinded to level 9!
@jackfusaro530211 ай бұрын
Just killed him and I’m level 6, am I screwed??
@chap9306 Жыл бұрын
So i decided to spare the nigthsong and just left balthazar there instead of fighting him, hope he doesnt do something evil
@Gintokichad Жыл бұрын
As someone who really struggled with this as im below lvl9, bravo for beating this on tact!
@GReddy-if2pi4 ай бұрын
I also struggled a lot at level 7. Then I beat it at a close call thanks to RNG lord hearing my prayers just to realize that many quests failed after the fight. Reloaded, did the quests and ran into a wall at lvl 8 AGAIN 😅
@Gintokichad4 ай бұрын
@@GReddy-if2pi funny enough, only a few days ago I beat this fight on tactician myself :)
@ugochukwuonwu450911 ай бұрын
With a little bit of preparation. I killed him without losing any hp. I had my sussur weapon with Karlach. Pre cast haste on her. Pre cast bless on party. Used my main to start fight by firing off arrow of arcane interference. This silenced him so he could not haste or summon. Karlach proceeded to make mince meat of him and keep silence up
@shh53210 ай бұрын
Never thought about silencing him BEFORE the fight. But it makes perfect sense... will consider for honour mode.
@ShadeyDuality Жыл бұрын
If you just attack attack him and you have counterspeell unlocked you can stop him from summoning reinforcements makeing his fight a 1 v 4
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Oh thats funny, poor Balthazar
@84jesterx Жыл бұрын
yeah...so I did have counterspell and that didn't happen...like at all. He still summoned minions. So either game is bugged or Larian fixed it where we can't do that.
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Did you attack him first before the fight began, thats how I read it works, so you for example attack him out of combat, pulling all your allies into combat, then he gets his automatic first turn and you character can counterspell, that said I didnt do this as I dont really like making too easy so it might be fixed @@84jesterx
@Vicusor22 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, it works (27.09) you just have to attack him directly, without starting the dialogue. Did that, but it was too easy, i was lvl 9 at that point. So i did it through dialogue, but placed 2 melee fighters next to him for the opportunity attack because he has higher initiative. And also stole the potion of speed from him so no double actions my guy😂
@davidepagliara521010 ай бұрын
In my first attmempt i killed him properly... then I reloaded scam for lore reasons multiple times... during my last attempt I was so upset I morphed him into a sheep and kicked down into the abyss
@ryanfoster975511 ай бұрын
I just threw a void bulb at the edge before initiating the fight and it sucked him off the platform. I struggled for hours trying to beat it normally
@Sam-vz8pm10 ай бұрын
I did this fight yesterday, I was level 7 so I was getting ragdolled so I just decided to cheese him by casting silence on him and jumping him without listening to his evil monologue and giving him a chance to summon his army
@ayoo_wassup8 ай бұрын
Mofos rolling 15+ like 30 times in a row lmaoo His minions were consistently hitting me for 20 lmao
@sanromanosqui4 ай бұрын
In my case, I just used Karlach to sneak behind Balthazar and throw away all the skeletons into the abyss except for two that were in his range of vision. Then when the fight started I used banishment on one of the remaining skeletons, a spell to trap undeads with balthazar and the rest was just ganking on him lmao! that was so ez
@wardy940 Жыл бұрын
Ive just started the trials and im only just level 7. Starting to think i might be under leveled
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
hmm, I might be level here 9 here based on my spell slots, level 9 is a big boost in general, it unlocks level 5 spell slot and ups your mages power a lot, and at level 8 everyone gets a feat, so level 7 might be tough, good luck
@wardy940 Жыл бұрын
@Makotro0 I may just do a bit of back tracking after I've done all 4 trials and at least get to lvl 8. Can't see me reaching 9 before I get to this guy though. Levels 10-12 must be a grind.
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
@@wardy940 fair warning that once you do this fight, you lose access to any area before the Cursed Shadowlands, so in case you havent completed Underdark/Mountainpass, you can go check them out and remember to visit Moonrise Towers before this, that place changes too In my case I reached level 12 long before the end of the game so no grinding is needed and it is not worth it to grind past level 9 at this point at all, just enjoy the game and find cool solutions to problems
@Eskimoska Жыл бұрын
they just YEET my characters in 2 turns wtf
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Do you mean the shove your over the edge :D the big skeletons like to do that if you are anywhere close to the edge, thats why I move my fellas away from there
@jaydub25468 ай бұрын
What I do is un group everyone and put them in the ledges around Balthazar while my main character is in convo with him. I run around picking up all the bones and throw them in one pile, easy lol
@koolerpure Жыл бұрын
cast fear on him and he drops his sword and cant summon the dead. killed him in 3 turns lol
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Command drop also usually works! Or a class who can disarm, you can do this on many friendly npcs too to snag their weapons 😄
@bonfiresquire Жыл бұрын
they fixed this :(
@Vicusor22 Жыл бұрын
He summons the dead before you can do anything. If you're going to attack him before cutscene starts just have someone with counterspell and you cancel his summon.
@patrickromero872411 ай бұрын
this still works today! what i did was cast fog on balthazar using astarion and then quickly activating turn based mode. afterwards i commanded shadowheart to move closer to balthazar without getting affected by the fog so she won't get blinded, and then cast fear on balthazar. i got successful by the third time i casted fear on him so it's better to save scum on this one.
@Youpalse11 ай бұрын
Murdered the guy in his den beforehands. It doesn't seem like I missed much
@zeroonezero62708 ай бұрын
Very nice! My Balthazar is bugged. There’s no cut scene and he just tells me to gtfo (not now… won’t talk to you) wtf?!
@Makotro08 ай бұрын
😓
@Aphelia.7 ай бұрын
4:13 What does she disappove? The giant fireball?
@JosephAnthonyJosefius Жыл бұрын
I polymorphed him before he saw me and my party kicked him off the platform, GG.
@vanmarci5929 Жыл бұрын
lol, so Baltazar is there, good to know, i killed him in his office when we first met, i play a barbarian, and i attack everybody, who talks shit about me, or has a breakable face, so that was a double check in his case. I did not cheesed the fight, and was lvl8 at the time, the good old axe meet face tactic worked on him, also on his zombie hulk.
@davidthegreatgeneral17 күн бұрын
okay I just suck then
@Darth_Serpentor11 ай бұрын
Sussur dagger silences him
@OMaIIey Жыл бұрын
You can drag the corpse to one pile before the fight, then aoe. So much easier.
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Ah you mean he revives corpses? Didnt think of that, sounds cool. Personally I like to do the full fight, fun to find solutions to it 👍
@bo4287 Жыл бұрын
How? As soon as i walk a step the cut scene activates. I cant interput it and the fight starts right after
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
you can change your controlled character during cutscenes in bottom left, most of the time they can run around freely when your one character is stuck in the conversation @@bo4287
@deruhu2458 Жыл бұрын
@@Makotro0maybe fixed... i cant change the Character during this conversation 😑
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
@@deruhu2458 hmm maybe, i knoe some very important conversations pull everyone into them, try to keep the other character farther away and in stealth
@badhunter03036 ай бұрын
fireball goes brrrrrrr
@willrhoden97889 ай бұрын
Easy way to beat him: Turn him into a sheep and push him off the the ledge lol
@Octavizor Жыл бұрын
gods the action economy of this fight is so lame, granted im level seven but i have no clue how i could be any higher
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Hmm, clerics with turn undead can maybe give you some breathing room, and the haste spore grensde I used in this video is really strong if you can find one
@julienchevalier6360 Жыл бұрын
After this vidéo, i just chlose to fighr him in the area we meet him with a sorcerer+ wizard with 6 archer skeleton,2elemal, second marriage, fire elemental, a ranger5/thief3 with double ranged, and a warrior/that dish 5*30dmg attack (lvl8) Then i remembered that i could use the money glitch to one shot him after filling him with money Btw i nearly died, with this 🤐
@AndreyGP Жыл бұрын
I just used haste on my ranger and blasted him turn 1 so he couldn't even attack.
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Good on you!
@sirius9108 Жыл бұрын
Lol I had my shadowheart talk to him while I used my main character to stand in front of him and then I one tapped him with repulsor and made him fly off the edge lmao... hope he didn't have anything too good on him
@dexcal800910 ай бұрын
4 m9nths later its impossible for me
@cheeseburgerwalrus4993 ай бұрын
I hate watching people who are good at this game play parts I'm stuck at. Makes me realize how God awful I am.
@TinieMx Жыл бұрын
How do you even get to this point? I am struggling so much with this fight, but the moment I jump down onto this surface, the cutscene begins. I can't prepare for the battle or get close like this. He always goes first and drinks a potion of haste, casts cloudkill and wrecks my entire party. I'm level 8, what am I gonna dooooo
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
You can change your character when you are in dialog, at the lower left you can select a different character who is not talking to the npc, then buff up and return to the character in conversation and start the fight!
@Vicusor22 Жыл бұрын
If you are sneaking the cutscene doesnt start. At least it didnt start for me.
@maurxx122211 ай бұрын
I killed him lvl 6, i got lucky with a lot of crits with shadowheart
@stephengoughjr968410 ай бұрын
From who?? Lmao
@nathanieljefferies54912 ай бұрын
Lol i just kill him in his chambers…you get nothing fighting him here since the undead he summons do not even give xp. I challenged him as a fellow necromancer…he stood no chance. Thsi fight was just a waste of time and resources since you have to fight ketheric at moonrise after this.
@Basslcal Жыл бұрын
How did you get to level 9 at this point?
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Nothing special, I just explored everywhere in both acts 2 and 1, wilderness, underdark, the forge, mountainpass and did every companion side quest that I came up on
@ronjasonaborita5358 Жыл бұрын
Man, play with a bit of creativity. Youjust fireballed everyone into place.
@Makotro0 Жыл бұрын
Haha, lets all just play how we want to, go do some barrelmancy and cheese the encounter, or pile all the corpses before the encounter, or stun balthazar before the fight even begins!
@84jesterx Жыл бұрын
if it works, IT WORKS.
@packdog70 Жыл бұрын
So, Mr. Creativity...why not post YOUR awesome method?......