Balmora live - Police shut down Mindforce hardcore show! (Full set) St Vitus - Brooklyn, NY 2/16/24

[@RippinToons]

sound guy telling them to wrap it up then gettin dove on was mad funny

[@thejondohhshow]

I just saw that when re-watching! Funny. Glad he had a smile on his face at least. I also noticed he was trying to announce the shutdown a full 4 minutes before it happened.

[@beandipcartography]

My favorite Baltimora song is "Tarzan Boy" from the totally awesome 80's.

[@thejondohhshow]

At least your comment is original and some effort was used😂

[@Stretchwreckedem469]

You just know the cops who shut this show down wait for someone to go just one mph above the speed limit so they can write them a ticket

[@thejondohhshow]

It was coordinated by the Department of buildings. Boo to both!

[@Talesfromthepit666]

Damn that sux! So Denny’s can host a gig on the restaurant floor, but an actual licensed venue holding a gig gets shut down?!

[@thejondohhshow]

What the fuck is up Denny’s? Classic👊

[@richhanson6285]

Its not a licensed venue, that was the problem.

[@jazzblasterrr]

@@richhanson6285this is a legendary venue and has been for many years

[@thejondohhshow]

@@richhanson6285 it looks like there is a path forward with the city....we wait to see.

[@adamnshame95]

Last moments of music ever at Saint Vitus. RIP 2011-2024

[@thejondohhshow]

Totally stinks that this is it. I was hopeful that things would work out. I'm going to miss that place.

[@MelaniespeckSpeck]

Thanks for your channel 🎶👍♥️

[@thejondohhshow]

Thank you for watching!

[@evanmoses8669]

The drum part at the end.

[@thejondohhshow]

They did it for the children…..🥁

[@thejondohhshow]

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[@DJStrongStyle]

BALMORA OPENED WITH A NEW SONG IF YOU A HERB WHO SKIPPED TO THE END

[@thejondohhshow]

Doing the lord's work DJStrongStyle🙏

[@Sunbeamer6]

That’s on god

[@thejondohhshow]

@@Sunbeamer6 👊

[@sweetsugarpezzify]

Glad I saw Poison the Well here about a month ago. Killer show. Place was packed more than this.

[@thejondohhshow]

This was also sold out. (Opening band in this video. Headliner never got to play so bar area never fully came into show room) I was sad I missed PTW....how was it?

[@sweetsugarpezzify]

⁠ah yeah that makes sense....wild shit. PTW was spectacular. Right in your face, loud as fuck, and got a good sweat in. Felt like I was 20 again. Came in from Atlanta for it and worth the trip for sure.

[@thejondohhshow]

@sweetsugarpezzify awesome! They were always so full of energy back in the day👊

[@floydsemlow8253]

​@@thejondohhshow Big Facts!💪

[@thejondohhshow]

@@floydsemlow8253 🤘🤘🤘

[@averymiller396]

I almost went to this show, and was bummed when it sold out. Now I’m glad I was too late to get tickets, LOL. That really sucks for all the people who paid good money. I dig the energy coming out of this band though. They sound wicked tight.

[@thejondohhshow]

I was pumped to go...drove 3 1/2 hours in bad traffic and then.....oof. Not the payoff anyone was looking for. Next time🤷

[@balaam2553]

@@thejondohhshow do you know why it was shut down?

[@thejondohhshow]

@balaam2553 look for the article on lambgoat. (Can't share it here for some reason) It goes into some detail. Sounds like a paperwork problem at the venue and the authorities used a sold-out/oversold show to make a point.

[@doubletrouble5026]

Same

[@doubletrouble5026]

no idea but the FDNY showed up. Shouldnt have been a noise issue, @@balaam2553

[@yellowdog2181]

I’m glad the city chose to waste their time and shut down a show instead of dealing with the mountains of bullshit they are ignoring.

[@thejondohhshow]

Or they could have shut down the club at noon so everyone didn't have to drive in? They did it for maximum pain on a Friday night during a sold-out show.

[@HypnoticPattern]

this is going to kill music scenes in cities that insist on doing this. Then shows will go to underground and illegal venues and it will be even less safe.@@thejondohhshow

[@thejondohhshow]

@@HypnoticPattern it is a sticky situation for sure.

[@HypnoticPattern]

@@thejondohhshow stickier than the floors in those basements we grew up seeing hardcore shows in for sure :-p

[@thejondohhshow]

@@HypnoticPattern 👊🤣👊

[@thrash_skank_thrash1915]

“last chance to move”

[@thejondohhshow]

Band tried to power through…..that was appreciated. If you listen back, they were trying to get them to stop about 8 minutes in when the vocals were cut.

[@akpil5230]

Going to a Spite show in May and I hope the pit is like this one, everyone seems so chill and having a good time. The Kublai Khan show the following week, I expect to get pulverized.

[@thejondohhshow]

Kublai Khan pits are the best! You can see a bunch of them on this channel 👊

[@waveslayer007]

bands sounds good, good music is good music, fuck whatever core it is

[@thejondohhshow]

This…..This is the right answer!

[@Meathead-bm6lv]

I’m a little confused. Why isn’t the vocalist looking at the crowd at all?

[@nowimpsnoposers]

Ashamed of his shitty band.

[@thejondohhshow]

Is that a requirement or something?

[@nowimpsnoposers]

@@thejondohhshow hahahaha deleting comments too.

[@thejondohhshow]

@@nowimpsnoposers huh?

[@gavinbuck8130]

Sorry to ask the basics, but on what grounds? Seemed like a chilled gig in a chilled venue.

[@thejondohhshow]

If you Google "St Vitus shutdown" there are 3 or 4 solid articles explaining it. It is basically the NYC department of buildings that closed it. Bad paperwork/permits etc. They just chose a sold-out Friday night gig to enforce it.

[@gavinbuck8130]

@@thejondohhshow Thanks for the reply, let's hope that this is just temporary and it gets up and running and all paperwork in order, St Vitus is an important venue and at the heart of a lot of important scenes, it would be heart-breaking for it to come to an end.

[@Monocultured01]

Been to events at Vitus many times. They have a habit of really crowding the venue to the point that you can barely move. Sucks that they got hit by the DOB, but can't say I'm terribly surprised. It's ironic that the shut down happened during a show with enough space on the floor for people to run around.

[@gavinbuck8130]

@@Monocultured01 I would have thought it normally comes down to fines when ignoring capacity or fire regulations.

[@thejondohhshow]

@@Monocultured01 The other fact is people press against the walls during hardcore shows so they don't get knocked out by a spin kick😂

[@luisfuentes6873]

Balmora❤❤

[@thejondohhshow]

So good!

[@orangeechofilms]

Reminds me of Crypt Sermon's record release show in 2019 at Philamoca where the show was shut down by the cops in the middle of the first band's set. It was from a call from an angry neighbor and apparently the space wasn't up to code. Luckily the show finished at Century Bar, but that really sucked.

[@thejondohhshow]

It is very similar now that I have the reports on the night. Glad your show eventually found a way to happen🤘

[@CH-jv6ck]

What’s the charge officer?!

[@thejondohhshow]

Very exciting building code stuff🚔

[@corbinhaynes7543]

Eating a meal?

[@thejondohhshow]

@@corbinhaynes7543 🤔

[@corbinhaynes7543]

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[@Spaghetti_policy]

Ahhhh. Just like the old days….. lol

[@thejondohhshow]

Just no clubs were used this time😂

[@jeremyrjackson]

Now THATS a violent ahh pit

[@thejondohhshow]

🤔

[@jeremyrjackson]

@@thejondohhshow is it not?

[@thejondohhshow]

@jeremyrjackson on a scale of 1-10? 4.5? Violent enough that I didn't want to get hit and stayed in the corner😁

[@ianm1462]

2:30 - so this is just the ‘death is in the air’ BTBAM breakdown from Lost Perfection B. Tribute or shameless rip-off? Edit: that sounded harsher than I meant it to. I’m digging this early 2000’s sound!

[@thejondohhshow]

It is my belief that there are only about 20 actual breakdowns that end up being used in thousands of heavy songs. They end up sounding alike eventually 🤷

[@ianm1462]

@@thejondohhshowwhile you aren’t wrong, it’s not the rhythm of the breakdown itself but the sustained note before and the vocal timing that caught my attention. 1:05 in Lost Perfection B: Anablephobia by Between the Buried and Me if you want to hear what I mean. And I’ve decided on ‘it’s a tribute’ because I think a good chunk of their audience would recognize this part.

[@thejondohhshow]

@ianm1462 I'll have to check out the part you are referencing. Not too familiar with that band. 🤘

[@giuseppep975]

Does this mean that St. Vitus is shut down?

[@thejondohhshow]

Unfortunately, it is for the time being. They are working on a solution with the department of buildings

[@skeletongrip8276]

They have how many shows at St Vitus and this one gets shut down? Sus.

[@thejondohhshow]

From what I am reading, it was bound to happen soon because of the disagreement with the DOB. Waiting for a sold out show made their point.

[@drummurdroid]

I wonder how many actual toughies are in these hardcore bands.. y’all know most of you are just about fronting 😂

[@thejondohhshow]

Actually, usually, the most active "moshers/crowd killers" are the people in other bands. It's a thing.

[@connorhendrickson]

Said by the dude who calls people "toughies" 🤣☠️ Charmin called my guy, they miss you

[@drummurdroid]

@@connorhendrickson lawlz and shit. Go back to sucking off your mother 😘

[@thejondohhshow]

@@connorhendrickson 👀

[@ajvonh6422]

Shout out to little Mario wearing the Rags sweater 👑 Crowd didn’t start moving till it was too late 🍦

[@Enigmalake]

Whoever is running things that night use the mic and explain to people mumbling with your hands up causes more confusion

[@thejondohhshow]

You aren't wrong! Not something they were prepared for.

[@Enigmalake]

@@thejondohhshow prepare for everything

[@paulmartin9829]

who complained?thats and industrial area.St Vitas been there for years.

[@thejondohhshow]

They actually found the twitter/x user who made repeated complaints and outed him. You can look for yourself but I'm not gonna amplify here.👊

[@RyanGriswold-og7ey]

Suprised it got shut down. Pretty tame for whats being called a hardcore show

[@thejondohhshow]

It wasn't about the show, it was about the NY Department of Buildings, apparently. A long time grievance against the club and it came to a head on this night. Sucks for everyone.

[@xnosmokenoknivesx]

ur so hard bro fr fr

[@thejondohhshow]

@@xnosmokenoknivesx 😂

[@MalevolentReflux]

That's because Lumpy was on stage and not on ground level assaulting half the venue lmao

[@thejondohhshow]

@@MalevolentReflux Haaaa!👊

[@visualdoom1918]

😮😮😮

[@thejondohhshow]

Not good! I hope they get it figured out.

[@ericmiller807]

Defheaven?????

[@thejondohhshow]

You got it on the first try. Now you get a cookie.

[@ericmiller807]

@@thejondohhshow I deserve one after that 13 minute descent into the abyss lol

[@thejondohhshow]

@ericmiller807 If you like heavy music and didn't like that set, I don't know what what to tell you. 🤷

[@ericmiller807]

@@thejondohhshow you finding this heavy... I think we have very different outlooks on what heavy means, also I was very taken aback when u said this was heavy the countless times above, have u ever heard mortician?

[@ericmiller807]

@@thejondohhshow you think sounding valiant like iron maiden and avenged 7 fold sounds heavy? That's what that stuff sounds like to me, go listen to sleep and try to tell me what heavy is again

[@erickh82082]

Best prank ever 😂😂😂😂😂

[@thejondohhshow]

🤷

[@SlugCult718]

Yet the police do nothing about the innocent people getting pushed onto the subway tracks on their way home after being thrown out of this show.

[@thejondohhshow]

Did that happen?

[@BloodyKnuckles66]

So the cops counted everybody (I'm sure) and said they were over capacity huh. Stinks like bs from here. Hope someone can shed some light on this. I'm not familiar with any of the bands but it always sucks when this kinda shit goes down. Do the show again 🤘🤙

[@thejondohhshow]

Google "st vitus shut down during mindforce" some pretty detailed articles are up now.

[@BloodyKnuckles66]

@@thejondohhshow thanks for the info. I'll check it out

[@BloodyKnuckles66]

@thejondohhshow just took a glance at a couple articles. Complaints seem sort of legit, old laws etc. Dob didn't have to shut down a show though. Overall I still think it's bs. Hopefully the place can get em off their back and keep being a destination for bands 🤘🤙

[@thejondohhshow]

@BloodyKnuckles66 I agree. Probably some legit issues to work out but they could have done it at noon and not messed with a sold-out show. That was the F U part.

[@BloodyKnuckles66]

@thejondohhshow a million percent! That's what makes it suspect to me. Good stuff man. All the best to you 🤘🤙

[@starspawned78]

Why did the mofo kick the mic stand. Can' tolerate frustration

[@thejondohhshow]

2 straight songs where the mics weren’t working at all = frustration. At that point, no one knew they were trying to shut down the show. (On the video, you can hear the sound guy announcing it 5 minutes before it ended though)

[@starspawned78]

@@thejondohhshow we are just internet trolls bro. We all think we can act better. He didnt really ask for the sound guy to turn the volume up or check the mics. Though the riffs are OK. Clean vocal parts really are weak 🙏🏼 at least not my taste. You also take too seriously in defending that band. Do you 0lay there?

[@thejondohhshow]

@@starspawned78 hardcore shows are generally 15 - 20 minute sets. You have to plow through with as much aggression as possible. If you aren't familiar, I understand. All good. 👍

[@shroomsandmetal]

acab

[@thejondohhshow]

You said it!🤘

[@Tonybxhc]

Correct. But Department of buildings shut it down, not the fire department or Popo

[@thejondohhshow]

@Tonybxhc yup.....that is the update for sure. Night of, they said "cops shut it down". Now we know it was DOB. I hope it all gets figured out. I love that place.

[@reportme4hacking148]

Ppl still say acab?😭🤣🤣🤣😂

[@thejondohhshow]

@@reportme4hacking148 apparently?

[@Mabuhay_Ka]

Did I hear him right, they over sold the show. Pretty dum, the law regarding occupancy is there for a reason. Shows that greed is more important than safety.

[@thejondohhshow]

It's a little more complicated than that, but I know what you are saying. Stories are up about this event that go into a little more detail.

[@NevilleFuckenBartos]

Gay

[@thejondohhshow]

@@NevilleFuckenBartos happy?

[@pinkmotorazr]

Bootlicker

[@Monocultured01]

I go to a fair number of events at Vitus. I'm surprised that this one is considered oversold with there being enough space for people to run around on the dance floor. Some of the events and shows I've been to have been so packed you can barely move. Watched someone almost get sick from the overcrowding and lack of airflow (it gets reaaaallly hot in there). While it sucks that they got shut down, can't say I'm surprised or disagree with the crowding concerns. Hope they resolve it quickly.

[@BROKENTEETH-55515]

Hey Marge, change the channel.

[@thejondohhshow]

The first person to get the Simpsons reference!👍

[@EVILIVE245]

I can see why they shut it down, this band blows.

[@thejondohhshow]

You can't be serious? You meant to click on the Taylor swift video, right?

[@MrCoop187]

Just say you listen to Djent and shut the fuck up.

[@starspawned78]

Was headed to write this comment... 🎉🎉🎉🎉 I bet the St. Vitus owner was like... we've gone too far... need to shut this down

[@thejondohhshow]

@starspawned78 you obviously didn't listen to more than the 1st 30 seconds or you just don't like heavy music? They are 🔥Tay Tay misses you. Go back.

[@thejondohhshow]

👊

[@miketaylor9544]

They're not a hardcore band. Saying that would be like saying the Black Dahlia Murder is hardcore. This is definitely metalcore

[@davecarcel]

Metal + hardcore = metalcore They also come from the hardcore scene

[@thejondohhshow]

When writing titles on KZbin you get a maximum number of characters. The description of the video uses metalcore, hardcore and metal for the algorithm. The title and thumbnail capitalize on the fact that it was 5 hardcore (or hardcore adjacent) bands show that got shutdown. No need to gatekeep the “category” so hard. Jesus…..half the comments on this channel are people getting butthurt that the band isn’t labeled properly.

[@thejondohhshow]

The show that was shutdown was most definitely a “hardcore” show. Hence, the title used. Of course Balmora skews metalcore to the ears but "hardcore" in mindset.🤷

[@CalciferFireNonsenseGaming]

durrr durrr errrr best band there anyways

[@pinkmotorazr]

We are a hardcore band, hope this clears up any confusion.

[@pjthomas3973]

Saved from the embarrassing emo dance moves.

[@thejondohhshow]

Dad....is another one of your burner accounts?

[@pjthomas3973]

@@thejondohhshow I knew it wouldn't take much to hurt your feelings 😂😂😂

[@thejondohhshow]

@@pjthomas3973 I didn't even notice it was you again. 🤣 This is fun.

[@Enigmalake]

Bunch of wanna be ninjas fighting ghosts over top of watered down weak Gothenburg riffs

[@thejondohhshow]

No one is as hard as keyboard ninja EnigmaLake🥷

[@Enigmalake]

@@thejondohhshow no battle warrior needed when there’s no fight…can’t handle honesty? What did I say untrue?

[@Kyoko_02]

You clearly don't know how the hardcore/metalcore scene pits work. It's been like this since the late 90s/early 2000s, you must be living under a rock. Not shocked though, you're into more mainline stuff.

[@Enigmalake]

@@Kyoko_02 mainline stuff? 🤔 lol. Wtf is mainline? I’ve been listening to metal since the 90’s and have seen every metalcore band come up through the ranks of the 2000’s on. You the dad of the band? Learn to take a funny jab and move on without turning into an offended dunce with your weak lying comebacks. Shit is funny when it’s true and yeah the arms flailing has been lame AF since day 1.

[@thejondohhshow]

@@Kyoko_02 👊🥷👊

[@ericmiller807]

Calling this emo cringe inducing valiant metal core a hardcore show for the win hahaha

[@thejondohhshow]

I dont speak whatever language you just typed. Please explain.

[@ericmiller807]

@@thejondohhshow those riffs make cringe...

[@thejondohhshow]

@ericmiller807 well alrighty then......

[@ericmiller807]

@@thejondohhshow I love ace ventura

[@killerintinctprodutions3808]

It was a Mindforce show how is that not hardcore 😂

[@JBguitar-cj8pc]

Karate moshing looks really dumb. How they can’t be embarrassed doing that is truly beyond me 😂

[@thejondohhshow]

Maybe , someday, you can be free in your expression and truly go off when you want to and not overthink how you might look to others? Different strokes for different folks I guess🤷🏻‍♀️

[@nowimpsnoposers]

@@thejondohhshow no karate moshing is objectively and factually P O S E R