"BAN KAZUYA"

how the community went from being scared of the level 9 cpu to campaigning for a ban
#smashultimate #kazuya #ban

[@jakezepeda1267]

Damn, you can take a bathroom break and still make it back before the hit stun wears off.

[@SHAWNJX]

LMAOOOO😂😂😂

[@Gureruru]

That's kazuha for you

[@daviddoesstuffandthingigue966]

Dbs broly?

[@smoothcrust1115]

I like how u see the evolution of competitive Kazuya more in top player tweets than in actual gameplay lol

[@donkylefernandez4680]

Egg, how'd you get a rounded square pfp?

[@smoothcrust1115]

It just a foto with black background lol

[@stormcamplin3753]

Huh interesting to see how ultimate is doing. I had 0 idea Kazuya was even a problem last I heard about this game was the Steve Drama.

[@ediot1426]

thats what happens when you give a character spamable moves with i frames that lead to 0 to deaths from pretty much any stage posistion

[@tacoshop7722]

Both are a problem still, Steve is the better character but Kaz is just even more worst designed than steve even is.

[@ClassicBentobox]

Neither of them are badly designed just overtuned. A lot of the dlc characters are high tier so naturally it’s going to be somewhat upsetting. There’s still counter play, some matchups just really suck.

[@tacoshop7722]

@@ClassicBentobox I think Kaz is legitimately badly designed in the way his kit is put together. His play style rewards the game being pretty in fun in the same way little Mac does. Nerfing him would only make him less good at being unfun IMO.

[@ClassicBentobox]

@@tacoshop7722 Not to be pedantic but “being less good at being unfun” by proxy means “better at being fun”. I don’t think you need to nerf his combos, only his kill options. The problem is that he has too many moves that kill unreasonably early. I genuinely think if usmash didn’t kill so early, if fsmash didn’t kill so early, if up-b didn’t kill so early, if dsmash didn’t kill so early, if rage drive didn’t kill so early, and the only kill moves you keep are a couple tilt moves and electric god fist, then he’d be a fun character to fight against. His combos are cool and flashy, and if all of them ended in committal options that left him vulnerable he’d simply be a high risk high reward character. But he skews towards reward as a result of how many kill options he has. Which isn’t necessarily new for the series, there are other characters in smash with similar problems. But high reward characters always suck to fight against.

[@patoa3481]

That Gluto vs Riddles game was painful. Gluto is a top 10 level player who grinds the thoughest matchups and learns how to counter other top players and gets hopelessly decimated. He wasn't even playing bad. He just got hit

[@Skyfysh]

The irony is there was a time when people thought Wario waft was the pinnacle of stock robbery.

[@loi_cy]

Robber gets robbed

[@lifeisoverrated7167]

And every time I see a riddles set, I always feel like he drops a lot of combos, except when he plays gluto and never miss one xD

[@harrybalsac8279]

Since I've always been a fighting games addict, when Kazuya's moveset was revealed I already knew he was gonna be a juggernaut. I found it surprising that so many people, including traditional fighter and platform fighter players, didn't realize immediately that ewgf and nair being a weak spike would be a problem. As much as I like what they did with him, it is annoying as hell.

[@smithclaxton3357]

Nothing made me more sad then gluto vs riddles at scuffed

[@sham_noway]

gluto played perfectly stock 1, won neutral like 5 times in a row then got hit once and died its so bs

[@HawkTeevs]

Kazuya is Gluto’s demon I swear

[@comet5748]

Cope and get good

[@Ecstasy404]

@@sham_noway Lmao wym won neutral 5 times. He got 1 in that 2nd or 3rd stock where he got a 60% combo

[@PhenylSSBU]

@@comet5748 Found the Kazuya player.

[@egmusic1925]

Kazuya is the most traditional FGC character in the least traditional FGC game. Smash players in general don’t realize that most fighting games involve high levels of robbery by top characters

[@rurounijay7100]

The problem is the properties of kazuya in tekken versus smash. He doesnt have the insane frame data he does, his damage output isnt quite as high (not conventionally easy to compare but consider average kill percents of smash and compare low health in tekken). His frame data is insane, wavu is faster and optimized has complete intangibility, most of his moves have intangibility or armor, so with his frame data damage, movement, etc, hes a menace in this game in a way hes just not in tekken. Tag 2 and tekken 2 are probably the best kazuya has ever been, maybe tekken 1 as well. Id argue the latter are because of the small roster more than the character. Obviously he has weaknesses but theyre far outweighed by his strengths.

[@asherkime5910]

His frame data is garbage what are you talking about; twine. Is a super slow game comparatively so they sped him up about but compared to the rest of the roster he is mid at best and garbage at worst frame data speaking

[@rurounijay7100]

@@asherkime5910 lets think with our brain. EWGF is the move we're gonna be relying on as kazuya. That move is frame 8, which is extremely respectable in its own right, now factor in the fact that its intangible for the entire start up, meaning nobody can beat the move. It has an deceptively good hit hitbox, too good, and is an effective anti air. If a move that is completely safe with no draw backs, because it pushes people out of shield, is frame 8, you might as well spam it, factor in you can crouch dash cancel extremely well in this game compared to tekken (which also has complete intangibility if performed fast enough), and you have dangerous and safe movement for insane punishing and pursuit with debatably the best stand alone move in the game. Now consider most of the moves youll actually be using are anywhere from frame 4-14. I dont see anything atrocious about this. Remember most of the moves youre relying on as kazuya are intangible, have super armor, or fast and disjointed. All of sudden the picture comes together. He can korean back dash in this game, as well as wavu. He can do instant while standing (demon god fist) out of wavu, he can also neiji cancel into demon god fist. Most of the moves that are "slow" (frame 13-14) are combo extenders and finishers, not starters. If this character was actually bad and riddled with weaknesses as opposed to strengths, the player base would be nonexistent. There would be 5 tekken fans playing the character, and not a single pro would be playing him. Hes not balanced and hes obnoxious. Yes, he has a weaknesses, SOME characters with superior mobility like fox that have small frames and can safely attack and retreat quickly are difficult to deal with, yes. He also can get camped out pretty hard by characters like min min, samus and more. Though to say he has no chance is ridiculous. The character is insane and he has no -2 losing matchups. Theres like 5 characters in the game TOPS that have a hard +1.5 against him at best, but the best kazuya in the world doesnt even think its that bad. Kazuya is great, and his pros far outweight his cons, you can look up everything i said the internet is free, i stated pure facts and game data. Theres not much of an argument to be had my friend because youre literally incorrect. You can have opinions on the character but i shared game data. I main chrom and a lot of my attacks are frame 3-10. Frame 4-14 comparatively fucking filled with intangibility and armor across the board make quite a difference. Frame 8 is a quality speed to punish moves. I genuinely dont know what you were getting at.

[@abyssalnothingness]

@@rurounijay7100 7 frame jump squat

[@rurounijay7100]

@@abyssalnothingness wow i guess my argument is destroyed what a shit character

[@aaronnoesoriginal]

1:08 I laughed so hard here

[@itsdachief]

Excellent Diddy Kong impression

[@RawmGarcia]

🐵🐵🐵🐵

[@kingoro6806]

The real problem is the average toxic fan that plays only elite smash and pretends to know everything about everyone

[@beanonthefloor3750]

REAL

[@yzois]

Thats 90% of the people who complain about kazuya

[@andrewfuller2857]

for me I just think he's boring to watch

[@BudewIsOwnage]

The reddit/twitter effect

[@skoolwifi3835]

@@andrewfuller2857 interesting, more so than Steve? I know and accept that Kaz is busted but I love watching his combos but Steve is both boring and busted imo so I would rather ban him than Kaz.

[@degen7278]

I love the irony that a fighting game character becomes the best character when added to smash. That or Kazuya is too power for mere smash.

[@asherkime5910]

ESAM and Riddles rate him around 20th best in the game

[@degen7278]

@@asherkime5910 Huh that's interesting did not know that. What's the top few if you don't mind.

[@willycheez7218]

Steve is objectively better

[@asherkime5910]

@@degen7278 watch the videos

[@degen7278]

@@asherkime5910 I'm good; Im not invested in smash enough to thus my probably ignorant comment.

[@minixlemonade2335]

I love character design where the only way to win against them is playing lame and camping otherwise you get steamrolled

[@AHoomanBean]

sadly people still defend this character design nothing was learned from smash 4 bayo 1 touch death combos are just smash bros dlc in a nutshell.

[@nascour5991]

@@AHoomanBean yeah any critism or wanting to ban a character is toxic like no bruh I wanna have fun playing ultimate.

[@Astar72439]

Kazuya literally Pillars like Falco in Melee LMAO

[@piranhaplant8483]

Those top players whining about Kazuya have never fought a level 3 X-Factor Virgil and it shows

[@VoidBel]

They are not equivalents, MVC3 is not even the same type of "fighter" as smash

[@ThusSpokeDrDoctor]

@@VoidBel I think the sentiment is lost on you. It's just about comparing how busted top characters really can be and are a notch above the rest, you can do the same for different genres.

[@MiguelMem]

I'm Motivated

[@piranhaplant8483]

@@VoidBel It doesn't have to be the same type of fighter to compare how broken something is

[@piranhaplant8483]

@@MiguelMem I need more power

[@RoseFielden]

This would be the same with ANY Tekken character lmao

[@chainz983]

I'd hate to see how ppl react if someone like Xiaoyu was put in instead of Kazuya

[@Hikomune]

Bro is not gonna sugarcoat it

[@shingeki_01]

Riddles winning big house will always hit the feels

[@TricksterApk2077]

I've had the most fun playing a fighting game when Kazuya came to smash. I've wanted a Tekken fighter ever since I was a kid, when I played Tekken with my brother. Yet the amount of hate I've gotten for playing a character I WANTED in smash is unbelievable. This video makes me realize why I like cause Kazuya so much despite how many people have constantly talked shit to me. 10/10 Don't stop mashing, fam ❤️

[@ThusSpokeDrDoctor]

Im not gonna sugar coat it... F, star, DF2

[@chainz983]

They fear the 3rd dimension

[@nascour5991]

sorry you get shit unless people are saying you're carried because honestly steve and kazuya characters are sorry.

[@IK-yb5rn]

The moment characters start getting banned is the moment I lose all interest in the community

[@TakeoKurosawa]

Tight, I for one hope that happens. 🎉

[@Android-Twenty-One]

Welp... Steve got banned

[@rannynihilius8481]

The moment Bayo didn't get banned was the moment everyone stoped caring about Smash 4 entirely and just watched the better game. With Steve being banned atleast all of you Ult people can pretend that the core mechanics don't just reward one overtuned char every time so that you don't have to watch a non Brawl based game. After MK and Bayo ruined the entire competitive landscape now Steve has the potential to do the same so better get him out before he just does that and kills the last official title. You guys have to now make sure that your game survives through the years bc just waiting for a new release to get hype will not happen anymore.

[@Android-Twenty-One]

@@rannynihilius8481 I mean, you can't really have a tournament is Nintendo themselves keep taking down tournament events and not letting smash join evo at all.

[@rannynihilius8481]

@@Android-Twenty-One Evo never determined how smash does because it's way more popular than any traditional fighting game and Nintendo do not dare to just shut us completely down because ever since Evo 2013 we have been way too vocal about the mistreatment we have received. The problem as of now is that no backing from the publisher gets us pretty f-ed if no sponsors are willing to pay big sums to make tourneys possible.

[@johnkramer2144]

Wait, so you’re saying that having time for people to get better with the character can reveal how good they are and that first impressions mean next to nothing in competitive fighting games? Who would have thought?

[@JoelWhoKillz]

Wait, so you're saying yellow Gatorade is based on a lemon flavor?? Who would have though?

[@RawmGarcia]

You can’t process sheeet? Who would have thought?

[@steven6666600000]

Sakurai sure didn't think so. Why his dumb ass stopped patching the game as soon as Sora came out.

[@goofygoober4205]

I think the real drama is that Kazuya can just do kill combos out of nothing which automatically puts 90% of the roster at disadvantage since they can’t really kill combo as well as Kazuya can. Most characters that can would be Falcon, Falco, Pikachu, Sephiroth and most of the FE reps(which is ironic since FE characters are the most maines fighters and also are the lamest. I wouldn’t be surprised if the FE mains were mostly the ones complaining) but they work a bit more harder since Kazuya has such amazing movement options.

[@johnkramer2144]

@@goofygoober4205 He’s a traditional fighting game character in a platform fighter. Also that hurts cause I’m a Marth main and I don’t complain about Kazuya. I think he’s hilarious.

[@SentriesLoveMeSpiesFearMe]

As a kazuya main, this is my message: Just don't get hit

[@funnygamer.692]

As a sonic main: Lol k

[@SynysterProjects]

Are you also a Melee player perchance? ;)

[@SentriesLoveMeSpiesFearMe]

.....no

[@Le0ne-bq8zl]

You didn't sugarcoat it...

[@nascour5991]

as a fan of fighting games here's my message fuck your character ban kazuya

[@mastahshonuff]

Excellent evolution of the Kazuya Metagame

[@HawkTeevs]

I don’t think the issue with Kazuya is that he’s overtuned or unbeatable so much as the fact that he is a *MASSIVE* matchup check. He’s a very execution-heavy character, and because of that most people don’t play him in-bracket (whereas with Steve, people often play him because of how easy he is to pick up). Because of this, most people don’t know how to DI electrics properly, how to space-out his moves, what moves are and aren’t punishable, etc., and it’s to the point where even top players often get destroyed by him (and it’s literally their job to analyze every little detail about the game).

[@ambush4144]

Even with proper di and especially without plats there's still a chance of him killing you on one interaction, especially if a good kazuya can do the dash to catch your di options

[@daleanmonster3567]

as a kazuya secondary (who also wants him banned btw), it isnt a "massive matchup check". No, he is a character that can kill of an electric from almost anywhere on stage. DI doesnt even matter since there is tech that covers both di in and out. His moves arent punishable on shield since the only moves he will throw out at your shield are electric (pushes you out of shield, + on block actually), nair which is safe or down b which is a command grab. You can also jab jab into input grab which beats shield. Kazuya is fucking broken, while yes some characters beat him a good kazuya can beat any player. Also, this character is really common in wifi brackets, probably the most popular character rn. Your comment isnt accurate at all, learn the game before commenting that top players suck.

[@Ecstasy404]

Exactly. Well put

[@honeybadgerzombie1159]

@@daleanmonster3567 “a good kazuya can beat any player” so uh, why isn’t every major win a Kazuya player then exactly?

[@gluerakyt9997]

@@daleanmonster3567 you seem pretty salty to write such unaccurate comments

[@donkylefernandez4680]

Melee looking at the Ultimate scene "What da hell goin' on over there?"

[@WiiMoteGodYT]

as a kazuya player that plays him because of how stupid he is, this made me cry tears of joy. emphatic video

[@tonytonychopper9037]

Cringe

[@goktoproductions5475]

I bet your dad left you before you were 5

[@animaIpath]

pls unalive urself

[@victor-jo7wt]

@@tonytonychopper9037 so happy to have opened the replies and see this comment, hope you're having a good day man

[@pierreshi6102]

I'd pull out a byleth or robin against friends... until that one friend of a friend who starts talking shit without having ever played smash... then I pull out kazuya and teach him pain. Hehehehe

[@Bigswordenergy-b7u]

Have ever been sent of stage. edge guarded and died sub 50 percent? Kazuya does the same thing on stage where your movement isn't so linear compared to of stage

[@nathanmotzko5766]

2:24 he can wavedash?

[@hoassyoass2480]

Yes as a Tekken player who plays Smash, they did an amazing job translating Kazuya movement and move set into the game.

[@atari9477]

Where have you been?

[@juseizkloma6878]

Any character can wavedash

[@huntermccaskill3938]

Kazuya, Luigi, Ice Climbers Low floor, high ceiling - once they get going, just put down your controller and grab a snack That doesn't mean should be banned

[@RawmGarcia]

why not?

[@thebygoneking]

Kazuya’s definitely the standout of those characters. Better recovery game, significantly stronger kill options, 0-death confirms from any point on stage on a much easier timeline, generally stronger neutral game, and lacks the substantial weaknesses of Icies and Luigi (Luigi is easily gimped, Icies can potentially lose their entire character off of one bad exchange w/ Nana). On top of all that, he’s heavy as fuck and has a comeback mechanic

[@marlinmurrell620]

Agreed. Shouldn't be banned.

[@marlinmurrell620]

@@thebygoneking yeah, but the execution requirements are high, especially for Ferps tech. You slip up, you can get reversalled and put into disadvantage and maybe die if you're opponent is on top of you. Kazuya isnt invincible. He's just an extremely polarizing character.

[@lifeisoverrated7167]

@Marlin Murrell nobody cares about execution on ultimate. It's a game of mind games and micro punishments, not of hard combos and techs to execute and instantly win

[@cmi6105]

Riddles is my favorite player IDC. I don’t even think Kazuya top 5 but he’s incredibly toxic

[@sumpumpkin9109]

gluttony wants to know your location

[@Real_temmie_undertalo]

4:05 " feelin' good "

[@tkr3399]

I understand that kazuya can be frustrating to deal with. But people can not act like there more kazuyas than Steve's when kazuya is way harder to play than Steve. Like legitimately, he takes way more skill and execution to even do good with. Look at the top 5 players in the world, they all beat riddles and go back and forth with him. You can't act like every kazuya player is insane and there are a lot of them everywhere killing the game, when there aren't. It's better to argue that for Steve.

[@esausantibanez3702]

Both characters are stupid af in different ways. And learning inputs is not requiring skill to play a character, everyone can learn inputs to do combos. Kazuya’s learning curve is low because of that and the fact that he is intangible all the time (even when dashing in neutral) and due to ridiculously long hitstun.

[@esausantibanez3702]

Kazuya and steve are opposites. Kazuya forces you to avoid getting hit. And steve forces you to try to hit him.

[@eyesofdeathperception6730]

The Bayonetta to our Smash ultimate folks.

[@hazyhayley7488]

Nothing on Kazuya is as broken as a neutral B that creatures a platform / Wall. Gluto and Light play close quarters. It’s always going to be a hard matchup for them.

[@jackcampbell2021]

Nah, laser has long startup and is can be airdodged easily up on or over stage, it’s one of his easiest moves to punish if he tries to block you out of close range with it. It’s good for zoning really far away or killing way offstage though.

[@jackcampbell2021]

Gluto was in a bad spot though

[@marlinmurrell620]

@@jackcampbell2021 I believe that he's saying that nothing on Kazuya will be as broken as Steve creating platforms and wall with neutral b.

[@funstorm1789]

how sakurai going to add one last character that breaks the game twice in a row

[@stevenfraielli9869]

Okay but Tea kinda nice with it tho. ☠

[@AutisticJesusGaming]

Ban the use of more than one electric wind hod fist per conbo

[@dreamerlaurent8291]

i feel like kazuya being more op than steve is a stretch, just because he is useless in disadvantage

[@elijahfyffe5176]

I’d rather get bodied by an interesting combo from an input character than have to deal with a bullet hell from a 3’ ingame hitbox

[@jaddarohade]

Pov : Everyone just wants to ban everything that defeats him, until they realize theres no character left

[@imjustbread9209]

I don't understand why people want kazuya banned over steve

[@olbluelips]

Personally I think Kazuya's design is just more degen and really unfun even compared to Steve. You can at least play smash against Steve, but Kazuya is a minigame character. He's like Super Little Mac imo

[@stale588]

At least with Steve you can play the game, while he may be obnoxious to play against (like any zoner), kazuya’s 0-to-death conversions are to plentiful and too easy to just fall into

[@marlinmurrell620]

@@stale588 I feel the complete opposite. Whenever I come across a random Kazuya main, I dont get ToD every time. Every time I play a Steve main, I get camped and soon 3 stocked (Diamond is better Arsene). Steve combos are A LOT easier to execute than Kazuya combos. I dont want any character banned. But Kazuya takes higher execution. There's a reason why there's more Steve players than Kazuya.

[@imjustbread9209]

@@marlinmurrell620 exactly, not to mention what Stale said about kazuya can be said about luigi and rob too

[@marlinmurrell620]

@@imjustbread9209 Exactly

[@pbank_]

I just watched tea run up (while his opponent is at 60%), roll behind, ewgf, and gg. Like bro

[@vStrafe]

Banning him already? I wanted to witness the BOXX Kazuya erra first.

[@jabbair]

TRUE

[@vStrafe]

@@jabbair I just binged the rest of your content today, it's all your vids are so fucking refreshing. I just wanna say keep doing what you do and they'll blow up.

[@jabbair]

yo thank you so much for watching and the kind words

[@pierreshi6102]

I don't mind banning these characters or something like "only dlc characters", as long as we see top players play them sometimes. Anyways, overtuned characters are my pocket pick for when someone who never plays smash talks shit about how they're so good at it lol

[@FlipsZ]

And may I be somewhere around the 100th sub 🙏🏽

[@Hope4NewDay1]

This video is now my morning coffee. I love seeing the top players bitch and complain about Kazuya lol

[@goktoproductions5475]

EVERYONE that has half a brain is complaining about Kazuya

[@prestong.6391]

@@goktoproductions5475 if you have half a brain, you aren't playing ult

[@jaydee5312]

This aged like fine wine

[@brandon-cs7fw]

fire video

[@chullupa]

The fifth best smash game

[@grinder4907]

I will just go to custom balance and make Kazuya -3

[@Gzainneau]

I love this character so much

[@20xy94]

ultimate players will have bad takes like ' kazua is a bigger problem than steve ' but wont even mention he's a more fun problem idgi

[@sasori670]

Iykyk but I hate how they give him the doomfist treatment. Character releases and it’s oh he sucks don’t pick him or you’ll lose. But then… oh but then them character specialist come out and they get god tier with the character everyone says sucks and there’s instantly cries for nerfs and all of a sudden the character is unfair.

[@pockets_sb4238]

Jab bair? I’d never guess what character u play lolol

[@StarWalker-si4nm]

Guys trynna ban the fun characters to watch excluding steve and Rob. Why not ban the lame ass hell characters like Min Min and Olimar instead bruh

[@marlinmurrell620]

Based

[@ianfish9275]

Honestly at least you know if your playing against kazuya you aren’t playing against diamonds.

[@Ddamb1]

If they put heihachi mishima there nah it will go alot far worst

[@hernandeznestor7685]

Doesnt matter still satisfying watch whaterver character disrepects any samus.

[@martinusmaas31]

I don’t condone sending anyone death threats or bullying someone over the character they play, but Kazuya made SSBU as a whole so fucking boring for me. Due to one character 70% of the cast gets invalidated and playing the discussion game whether his disadvantage state is SO bad that he can/can not be considered a top tier just frustrates me to the end. By all means, if you are one of the higher end players who thinks grinding matchups is fun and does not get demoralised by watching cutscene combos over and over and over again, this is maybe a minor problem. But to me the fun just got beaten out this game with DLC pack 2. Over designing characters like Kazuya just raised so many questions for me. Like how are you going to design and release a character that +95% of your player base is going to hate to fight against AND hates it to see the character shit on almost all top players when other characters still have such blatant problems that don’t get addressed at all. Play whatever and whoever you want to play for your own enjoyment but don’t judge me for thinking they completely missed the mark with DLC pack 2.

[@ayar2]

Pretty sure the Pro Scene was the last of their concerns when making the DLC,. characters were mostly made for the fans of their franchises, from niche ones like ARMS and Persona, to big ones like Tekken and Minecraft. the competitive smash community is very good at banning a lot of things from the games, dont know why is so hard for them to do the same with characters.

[@edwinomargarciamendez4291]

May I have the song name for the "Results" phase?

[@somerandomdude5986]

Electric Fountain - Tekken 6

[@nascour5991]

I'm charactercord full of people who somehow still think that kazuya isn't top 2 and steve isn't the best character. I really don't understand how people can see clips like this and not think that kazuya should be banned. This characters is absolute bullshit, free combos and kills at any percent thanks to the bs stun move. armor on smash attacks, his only real weakness is being lamed out but even then all he needs is one hit. He's so braindead he makes players like T looks like they're carried scrubs even when Ik they're not. Even if you don't think he's ban worthy to think he isn't top 2 just baffles me.

[@supremeleader7863]

Thought this was gonna be a tekken video lol

[@xXEmo54Xx]

its always smash players crying for bans, when dlc is added to actual fighting games the people just accept and deal which is another real reason why smash isnt a fighting game

[@AxlKnws98]

The Only Nerf i'd Give Kazuya, get rid of his invencibility

[@Rocco_lifts]

awesome, I love kazuya

[@QuestionMarks420]

KAZUYA IS MAKING SMASH GREAT AGAIN, THIS IS A FIGHTING GAME AGAIN, ITS GOT THE MOVEMENT, THE COMBOS, AND THE NEUTRAL, THANK YOU KAZUYA MISHIMA

[@mylorddio8272]

Haha dying at 0 go DOYA

[@ugandafitmor1440]

the only reason i pay attention to smash bros videos is because salty smasher tears give me life.

[@Hope4NewDay1]

Gluttony vs Riddle is still my favorite set. One of the best moments in smash history

[@ok-fl7rx]

match up is impossible for glu

[@sumpumpkin9109]

bro loves to see gluto try his best while riddles ewgf him to death

[@reesespuffs4412]

I love kazuya

[@nxxdle_]

not because he’s unfair i just hate fighting him.

[@bennyheppner4589]

Riddles highlight video lmao

[@voltrexxx]

As an outsider he’s literally the only character that is entertaining to watch

[@ayar2]

As a casual Smash Player, yeah, pretty much.

[@user-jiba]

ゆゆゆ

[@olbluelips]

Idk if Kazuya NEEDS to be banned, but I'm definitely down for a Kazuya ban even over a Steve ban Sick clips btw

[@witt5913]

People are just salty at this point

[@loi_cy]

Kazuya is more honest than wario, gnw and ROB, its funny when people who play these characters complain about him like they don't play cheesy characters themselves

[@willycheez7218]

... are you joking? The only one there you could argue is Rob

[@loi_cy]

@Willy Cheez playing against wario is like playing with two stocks in a three stock game and gnw has so much cheese that i'm not even gonna bother listing all of it, but it should be pretty obvious what i mean Still, Kazuya is more honest than them. That's not to say he is worse, but he is less cheesy gimmick bullshit and more practice and execution, a shitty rob/gnw/wario player will always beat a shitty kazuya player.

[@abarette_]

you just KNOW that Kazuya is one of those characters, that'll get insanely nerfed in the next entry to the point of not working anymore as a character, like a mesh of incoherent ideas and moves

[@ayar2]

assuming he will be returning

[@MarcusAlder]

What's the song with the piano? 1:53

[@MarcusAlder]

Found it, "Moonsiders 1st" smash remix

[@coolshirtkid]

a greek tragedy

[@OddSauce]

you love to see it

[@chip_7677]

rizzles is a king of the character though, there aren't many people who can win a major with Kazuya, its not like its degen braindead to learn the combos of Kazuya, let alone learning to play dissadvantage and nuetral with how slow he is

[@clutchthecinnamonsergal8493]

Still just a high tier though

[@flame8786]

The solution is not banning kazuya, it’s to ban electric wind god fist from being used

[@Skyfysh]

POV: You paid to win.

[@sundowner8903]

Kazuya is the easiest fighting game character to beat in this game

[@Monstercookie821]

You need to do one for steve

[@kanguskhan966]

Kazuya isn’t all that different from other characters in the game. The only reason he’s “broken” is the offline environment and the unlimited skill ceiling… Obv he’s powerful but unless they know to ewgf every 3 seconds they arent going to get very far. Other characters have sds and spike setups as well. He’s not so different

[@cherrypeachey]

poor tubz

[@Nico_Nilla]

Skill issue -kazuya main

[@thecebul]

Same thing as melee with spacies no? Dawg when I used to play and Kazuya came out, people dogged on him. It only takes a few people to become extremely good at a character for it to be considered broken or unfair. Kazuya is fun to watch and I dont think ppl like Riddles and Tea deserve to get hate for being good at a character they like playing.

[@violatorytspam1725]

NO

[@xbgsheikiii3593]

Kazuya is not badly designed... It's just all the bullshit that was given to him for no fucking reason... The move that deserves i frames are the ones hard to input like EWGF but making it on the whole body is dumb, Smash attack super armor are dumb to especially f-smash why should he have super armor if there's a sweet spots that kills you at 40%, Down smash is a free spike giving him armor makes it even more free, I'm ok with crouch dash i frames but why making all moves that comes out of it invicinble as well... Dragon upercut kills so early why is there full body intangibility... So many bullshit rhat makes this character op. that's my thought because i'm having fun playing him But somtimes as a sonic main i'm missing my homing attacks just because of i frames on ewgf and i'm wondering is it the fault of the $5.99

[@TruTwist]

actually makes more mad than it should. Why can't banjo do a single thing in this game. Just sad. a character people actually wanted is finally in the game but no he's cringe and trash. Sad.

[@goatttfurry]

yodeling song pls whats the name

[@totallynotabot8580]

Yodeling in the Meadow

[@goatttfurry]

@@totallynotabot8580 GOAT

[@jiyucy]

Kazuya is actually a really well designed character in a very poorly designed videogame

[@sagegang6957]

i don't think kazuya would be a healthy character in majority of games lmao

[@oknerd7431]

@@sagegang6957 hes not.. but he defin is one of the best designed chars in this game, pretty accurate in his game. wavedash, electric and neutral

[@sagegang6957]

@@oknerd7431 i think in regards to tekken 7 yeah, but in terms of well designed competitively he's basically the best mu check in the game, and some of his moves dont even get to see much use because his main combo route is so good

[@olbluelips]

I don't agree. They pumped him full of s because his kit didn't work

[@Lexicon865]

Finally, someone who actually gets it Like I genuinely don't think the DLC's designs are the problem. Maybe some balance issues but either way none of them would mitigate the actual design problems of the game such as the Smash 64-Brawl characters that still have the same moveset from those games without significant upgrades or overhauls that would actually make the characters more fun, distinct and just changes that would also help them in general (ex. Ganon got changes but barely any of them were actually helpful to improving the character). The next game should have the base game roster and returning characters get the same design philosophies as the DLC characters to better even out the playing field instead of say putting a character like Steve in a game where the likes of DK or so still has the same uninspired moveset with the same limited options and whatnot

[@albertoscavini8533]

Who Is more hated Steve or Kazuya?

[@abarette_]

prolly Steve because less input-reliant

[@ayar2]

Ness

[@gluerakyt9997]

Just ban Kazuya icies and Steve

[@danyckroz1065]

Don't cry

[@lionyuzei4288]

pro llorones

[@vzy8354]

Please Ban Cancer Kazuya.

[@booogagaming5223]

0:49 You totally weren't trying to get hit by a level 9 Kazuya combo.

[@Shenkie]

I've been an active smash 4 to ult player for 5 years. This character made me quit. Now i play melee. Play melee lads.

[@nassoltd]

Lmaoo😂😂😂

[@piranhaplant8483]

Street Fighter 6 ain't far away 🙂

[@hwanniggles187]

Sounds like johns

[@Shenkie]

@@hwanniggles187 not really johns, the game just isn't fun anymore. If something reduces the game to such a shallow interaction, it's a problem. I know the community and know that it will take eons before it gets banned (if at all) and i am not willing to wait for that time to come. so i quit. enjoy the tekken 8.

[@Lexicon865]

i'll play melee if kazuya gets added to that game