BAN the Eeewsie, Protect the Printed Blaster Community

Thingiverse: www.thingiverse.com/woody7070...
Legit US Reseller: www.etsy.com/au/shop/EpicWail
Facebook: / maketestbattle
#Dartsoft

[@MakeTestBattle]

Sorry I didn't break the lull with a fun or exciting video, but this has to be said now. I will update the description when there are new legit resellers of the Woozie available. And if this seller takes it down. The piracy of another doesn't excuse one's own behavior; their decisions does not dictate your own choice. We not helpless, we can take action within our domain of control to decide how we treat each other. Do you want your favorite Designer to see unlicensed pirates of their work at your events? Either in person or online? We can choose now what we want our community's culture to be and set the social standard for future members and Designers. This dis-incentivizes reseller from stocking them. It dis-incentivizes manufacturers from making them. It encourages them to go through official routes to gain unhindered access to our community with the advertising of the Designer's endorsement and good word of mouth. They can make a profit, the Designer gets paid, we continue to get more kickass blasters. Send the strongest market signal we can to get the result we want. And you know, if Worker gets it why can't others?

[@zeanyt2372]

Now what if I bought one and then paid the Creator whenever the markup separately for the approval of using the injection-molded version. I personally think this is okay but you might think differently.

[@MakeTestBattle]

You're still paying them for exploiting Woody.

[@horusrogue]

@@zeanyt2372 This is the path I'd take personally. Then again, I don't see the point of the blaster. To each their own.

[@zeanyt2372]

@@MakeTestBattle that is true. I'm not planning on getting one. I was just asking a question for everyone who would be interested.

[@zeanyt2372]

@@horusrogue neither do I I prefer to make something myself.

[@blastertech9016]

For the record. We never 'kicked up a stink' regarding our MkII scar barrel. We made absolutely no public statement at all. Behind the scenes we actually sat down with Worker and spoke to them. We are all for competition, more options for people, competitive prices, advancement for our hobby. In some cases these products might be similar, but as long as someone puts their innovations and ideas in to something then its ok. Its the 'blatant copying' that is not right. Cheers Dean. =)

[@MakeTestBattle]

Thanks you clarifying. Sorry if that was misinformative, I haven't spoken to you about it. The intent wasn't to make you out as a complainer, but to highlight that Worker is willing to come to the table and respect the work of others. That's why I added the in the distinction of "shared concepts and form factors". I've seen people accuse CuteKeen (QK) of copying the Woozi when I think it came out first and clearly is an upper/lower design. They are both inspired by the same real steel uzi & mac-10 family.

[@blastertech9016]

@@MakeTestBattle All good good Mr Justin. =)

[@homelee665]

Justin? Where did you go? I can hear your voice, but it's dark and I'm scared. Seriously, though. This kind of stuff is a big problem in the hobby. Does a creator fully release their files and make it accessible to the entire hobby? Or do they keep control over their files in the hopes of making a little money for their work. It is a terrible decision for them to have to make.

[@MakeTestBattle]

I know right, sun was setting and I wanted to get it done. Just one take, no super detailed editing.

[@TungstenEXE]

yup, this a direct copy with no modification, not cool at all.

[@MakeTestBattle]

It's not even a recreated copy like Blaze Storm knock offs, it's the same file. It's so lazy.

[@alekszandor]

I would have loved a clear injection molded woozi shell. IF done properly! The ignoring of non commercial licenses is a big problem in this hobby... And sites like etsy tend to side with the offenders more than the victims.

[@Matt-md5yt]

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!! - Earl of Lemongrab

[@projectfdl6831]

It's probably pretty obvious to most but if this happened to an FDL I would raise absolute hell. I firmly believe in the notion that there is no positive without negative and to grow as a hobby or as a person, that negative needs to be embraced and listened to. The Nerf hobby has this way of casting aside negativity and calling out those who bring it forth saying they are killing the vibe of a good thing or distracting from what's important. That cannot be more wrong. Look closely at the writing on the wall for it is a map to the future that can be changed with a strong voice and a little tenacity. This is not the first misuse of the Woozy and will not be the last because it's a dope blaster with a ton of performance AND aesthetic appeal. I'm with you guys making a stand and having the foresight of what this looks like years down the line. It's important.

[@MakeTestBattle]

TRUE F***ING THAT! I think it's because most people are anti-confrontational, use the hobby as recreation or escapism and don't wanna cop flack. I felt this was important and someone blatantly breaching license was pretty black & white. The only backlash I got was peeps misunderstanding why this crosses a new line or peeps not liking the ban because they wanted to buy it guilt free and without hindrance. Hope the rest of the international community also sees the long term implication of this and ban pirate purchases as well.

[@Cringemoment4045]

This is actually right

[@jaysonsmith9971]

Woody is a great bloke, and it does not deserve his design being ripped off. Now if they offered a Woody a kick back on every unit sold I would call that fair. The fact that China has no regard for Copywrite Laws, and the Creative Commons Laws is just dispicable. I TOTALLY AGREE with the ban!!!! Cheers for posting this video up!

[@LL-wc4wn]

This sounds a lot like how the music industry beat Napster by telling people to shame their friends for using Napster

[@MakeTestBattle]

Napster wasn't selling music, they were file sharing. The Woozie STL is already available for free for personal non-commercial use, you don't even need to risk getting viruses from torrent sites. This isn't about celebrities and corpos protecting their millions. This is about protecting people from our own community, who create cool stuff for us, from being exploit for profit. I don't think shaming individuals will work because will choose what most convenient and buying from an asshole is easier then learning how to use a printer, but their purchase does literally finance that exploitation and ensures its continuation. So an event ban is the best way to dis-incentivize it.

[@LL-wc4wn]

Well good luck to him hopefully banning works I agree it isnt good He may want to remove the trademarked name uzi from the name of his blaster though.. if he is pro-intellectual property :)

[@panda.monium]

the RIAA didn't beat Napster by telling people to shame their friends. They did it by suing the ever loving crap out of them.

[@flywheeltheworld6998]

@@LL-wc4wn Couple of things on this.... The blaster is called the Woozi, this is a parody of the name Uzi, but is distinct enough to not be a breach of copyright... Parody is also generally regarded as fair use under copyright laws.... Additionally, the ban was not called for by Woody, the movement began as a unanimous decision by the Australian Event organiser community and has grown from there....

[@LL-wc4wn]

@@flywheeltheworld6998 just fyi, rockstar games doesnt parody the names of its cars which look like porsches etc in GTA, the "porsche" in GTA is called the Comet, a totally different name. Rockstar didnt choose a different name entirely because it is not witty enough to come up with a name that is a play, or parody as you put it, on the name "porsche" that would be funnier and make more sense.. they did it for legal reasons. Good ones Game devs need licenses to use ak47,m16,uzi etc in video games.. i am sure if a play on words "parody" was a legal defense they would do it and avoid paying millions to license those trademarks Woozi might be okay...but i can see some irony in the situation (blaster is a copy of the uzi gun, name is a play on a trademark uzi) that is all. I also think make test battle has raised an issue worthy of raising. Gl to him i hope his product isnt pirated My original comment about napster, which was obviously sarcasm, was just intended to mean that i dont think community bans on blasters is a going to work anymore than it could for napster. It also doesnt sit well with me making rules like that. But i can see there is a good reason behind it

[@djangoWier]

Hear hear, an all round boycot of copy cat blasters will send the right messege that the community will not tolerate it.

[@TheRamblerMan]

Good decision. Making rules to protect, and show solidarity for, creators in the community is always going to be a good reason for making rules.

[@thanhavictus]

5:22 I would go so far as to say that a community ban is PRO freedom, not antifreedom. Don't even give the benefit of that. NOT wanting something in your community in the first place is the epitome of OUR choice on OUR terms, and to say we can't do that or otherwise is anti-freedom. Second note, if someone new shows up, just kindly explain to them the situation and tell them they can't use it. Problem solved.

[@TheChrisCartaya]

Very good video, thank you, thank you so much for bringing forth awareness to this problem and how bad it's getting for creator and designers of New Modded Nerf Blasters.

[@riverslogue1056]

I agree completely, we should ban the eeewsie at as many nerf events as possible!

[@rickyrampage3732]

people want molded, 3d print should just be a prototype material imo.

[@AirzonesBlasters]

Thanks for the PSA. The other aspect to this is not only does it hurt the creator, but hurts the community as a whole. I've since heard of 2 - 3 people doing their own transparent Woozi builds, and now each of them will be looked at suspiciously, with the presumption that they have supported this copycat by buying a set.. They now have to justify themselves and prove their position and the origin of their shell.. Recent Bulwark / N90 / LaSon issues can be used as another example - yes, the critical dimensions and design from Bulwark were copied into the N90 to make it work. And LaSon then came out with his own version, using a different mechanism.. But was instantly met with incorrect suspicion and accusations that he also copied the Bulwark.. We need to be on top of this as a community.. Copying outside license should be shunned, so that the creators of a design have their just reward, modders can mod without being impeded, and designers can innovate without having to dispel suspicion..

[@MakeTestBattle]

That's why I brought up Shared Concepts and Form Factors. I remember ages ago I think it was Yokyo or XSW that made an Uzi that replicated the look of the stamped sheet metal of the original really steel. Everyone knee jerked and called it a copy of the MHP-15, which is based on the MP7, just because they had the same form factor.

[@b1ackgamma]

its an eazy fix, you just tell the community to report retailers that sell it on their storefront and make the guy who owns the patent to threaten with legal action. that way it super limits the sellers to just the Chinese market

[@Sillybutts]

A very well done video. Thank you for spreading awareness.

[@MakeTestBattle]

I don't know if it was well done. I didn't remember every point and I could have explained the differnce between shared concepts, copycats/knock offs and pirate purchases. I don't think awareness on it's own is enough, I hope other groups internationally also ban pirate purchases. Though thankyou for your kind words Silly.

[@tv-pp]

It's just a damn shame. I would have loved a clear injection molded woozi, but I would never buy the eewsie

[@mainstay.]

Another concept to consider is perception of honesty. I saw a few studies that showed the average person was more likely return money if they were " over changed" to a small mom and pop store but less likely to a huge 'High St' store. Hence the creator of the Woozie is a small mom and pop store and Hasbro is huge.

[@user-nl8wo5ed8f]

yes,it's immoral to sell other's design but the thing shocked me is that a factory is selling your wozzie 180 CNY(30 bucks)amazingly low.

[@johnwig285]

Immoral if not approved.

[@slapain547]

It is ok. As a maker I fully support the community supporting its own and the integrity of IP's out in the community. If enough designers are hurt the modding space suffers from lack of 3d designers and innovations. Lets Support our Community and cheers.

[@eiscingdeath2004]

I'm currently in the middle of building my own Bulwark that I bought from rabbit partly because I understand how difficult it is to come up with something like that but also because I want to support the individuals that push this community to the next level and I'm still new to Nerf as of corona happening here in the U.S. I for one will not be buying one unless it's the STL in order to print and build myself from the original creators.

[@MakeTestBattle]

Awesome.

[@eiscingdeath2004]

@@MakeTestBattle oh btw, any tips on how to wire it up while using a mosfet on the flywheel motors and not on the "pusher" motor, I can't seem to find a decent guide anywhere, might be a decent video idea 😉

[@globalrevolution]

I know quite a few people who put their stuff behind paywalls as a result of grifters trawling the verse for a quick buck.

[@rextonhart8604]

It should be called an Ewwsie.

[@camakathekilla2347]

Hi. If you could put vintage blasters in the modern day, what changes would you make to them, and what series would you put them in? (ie, elite, doomlands, mega, zombie strike, rebelle, alphastrike, ultra, rival) the list for this challenge includes: crossbow, lock n load, bow n arrow, big bad bow, blazin bow(i consider this vintage), secret shot 1 and 2, at1k, at2k, at3k, at4k, sneakshot, ratchetblast, electric eel, rapid fire 20, sawtooth, ripsaw, reactor, arrowstorm, chainblazer, expand a blast, hornet, scout, og titan, mad hornet, warthog, defender t3, tech target, supermaxx line, and fastblast

[@mainstay.]

Totaly agree with this, I won't buy one ( even if I like the idea of injection molded stuff) BUT to play devil's advocate and extrapolate the worst scenario. How do we implement this? Take this scenario - bloke turns up at a game with one, step one, organiser and others politely tell the bloke that it has been banned at their games and explain why, bloke continues to load up mags and starts to play with it. Step two - do we all stop playing and walk off untill they agree to not use it? I know peer pressure and fear of ostracization has stopped others from using 'too hot' an fps blaster in the past in a game but would that stop someone who paid quite a bit for a clear knock off blaster?

[@panda.monium]

Essentially it would be no different from if someone came to an event and weren't following the rules, and not leaving when told to by organisers. Thankfully, most people have enough social insight to comply but if not, the organisers may indeed have to take their proverbial ball home.

[@AirzonesBlasters]

Step 2 - friendly fire is OK.. Transferring into 40v1. A few blasters might be wound up a bit - or a lot.

[@MakeTestBattle]

Melbourne Nerf has had to ban players for creeping on female players, stealing and endangering others. It would be a similar protocol.

[@beerenmusli8220]

Thank you.

[@tartarusprodigy6584]

It's not like the Eeewsie is going to outperform the Woozi anyway, since it has better mag compatability (talon straight and curved mags), better performance from rate of fire to trigger stages (which include variable fire rate in the future if not already existing), and overall originality of the design. Props to Woody for making something I could practically dual wield, instead of the injection molded, poorly made, Chinese copy crap. Get the Woozi, it's worth every penny.

[@Steampuke]

I hadn't heard of that controversy and I didn't knew what to think at the start of the video, now the torch and the fork I just bought are sitting right at my left. I'm ready bois

[@jennytolls5057]

Sad to see that this is still happening, now to the lynx and others on Chinese websites

[@thegrimlord834]

Well spoken man

[@m00k61]

Is this the thing that showed up on Amazon as the "uzi smg"? I'm not really into flywheel blasters but it looks like it's ripping off the Woozi as well as the Phoenix. Plus it's not even that much cheaper than a Woozi. Probably with a lot less power and none of the cross compatibility.

[@m00k61]

Also if you think this post will draw attention to people that will report the listing that's cool but if you think even one person will buy it because of my post. Please delete it or ask that I do. I'd be happy to help. I love what the creators in this hobby do. Without them we'd only ever have stock Nerf. And think of how scary that would be.

[@spencerlinkous7714]

Email them. Say that if they do not give the designer a royalty or even just credit, they will be banned from wars. I mean, as long as this thing is affordable, when the company starts acting decent I'm going to buy one, if it really is injection molded.

[@edwardwong3992]

这个所谓的“公司”已经不是第一次复制他人创意了，他以前是靠抄袭水弹发射器（GEL BALL BLASTER）盈利的，把别人的创意偷过来然后做成透明版本的发射器，然后JET的Zeus2也被他抄袭并且做成透明，可能是因为水弹发射器近年来竞争激烈，他认为NERF社区有钱赚所以就转到这边来希望可以赚到钱，BTW这个所谓“公司”的中国网名叫“透明王”（TOU MING WANG）Means Transparent King，USE THE TRANSLATOR！！！

[@MakeTestBattle]

Google translate: "This so-called "company" is not the first time to copy other people's ideas. He used to profit from plagiarizing the water bomb launcher (GEL BALL BLASTER), stealing other people's ideas and making it into a transparent version of the launcher, and then JET His Zeus2 was also plagiarized by him and made transparent, probably because of the fierce competition of water bomb launchers in recent years. He believes that the NERF community has money to make, so he turned here to hope to make money. BTW, the so-called "company" China Net is called "Transparent King." Thankyou, good to know.

[@MakeTestBattle]

Edward can you link me there store?

[@edwardwong3992]

@@MakeTestBattle As far as i know they don't have certain store,at least not yet

[@edwardwong3992]

@@MakeTestBattle For what i heard is the man behind all this thing doesn's even know how to set up a fullauto pusher flywheel blaster circuit(Lack of knowlege),so the whole thing get delay

[@edwardwong3992]

@@MakeTestBattle The screenshot that you got in the vedio is from an APP called(闲鱼XIAN YU)，similar to Taobao but more like a secondhand version of it

[@runkurgan]

Aew you banning the user or the product? If I bring a second blaster and this am I still allowed to play?

[@MakeTestBattle]

Just don't bring it. Bring the other blaster.

[@panda.monium]

Depends on the group but I imagine you'd be told to put the blaster away rather than being outright banned (well, unless you repeatedly argued for your "right" to use it)

[@jiewang4390]

China: WTF is copyright?

[@mangofactory.mp4]

Interesting

[@ALPHA.Mods.1]

Very nice

[@tv-pp]

I'm torn. I'd love a transparent injection molded woozi, but I get why it's scummy. Maybe I'll PayPal woody some amount and then buy one.

[@arkwave2356]

I guess idk enough about this to really dip my feet in but yes it is wrong to steal other people's ideas and sell their products,I'm just confused cause what I'm seeing is outrage about it on reddit and again if someone else can help me understand a little bit better that would be great anyway love your vids justin stay safe

[@MakeTestBattle]

It's not the idea, it's abusing the free license for profit. Woody did the work, it's his to decide what to do with it. He choose to post it on thingiverse for everyone download for free with a non-commercial license. That means you can print one for yourself, print it to give away, just don't sell it for profit. This manufacturer is making them on mass to sell. That is the problem. They are making money off Woody's work and he sees none of it.

[@arkwave2356]

@@MakeTestBattle ok thanks for clearing that up I was just really confused about the whole thing

[@rebekahdodge3251]

It isn't even that much cheaper.

[@james_jetm]

how much is a woozi?

[@Kryynism]

If it is cheaper and functions properly I would buy it. Up your game on creation, quality, and customer support and you will beat out chinese copies. If a man makes a chair, and another man makes a chair, do you sue the other man for making a chair that works the same as the other chair? Lol

[@jeremeybohannon5808]

Selling blasters without the owners consent is flat out DISRESPECTFUL Woozi = buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy buy Knock off woozi = delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete delete

[@syarizansulaiman6554]

He not mention Malaysia or Singapore so this uzi goes there 😁

[@TooMuchFez]

don't

[@detanior]

its getting dark

[@MakeTestBattle]

i know right

[@Coolkid-nj3bi]

Why don’t u post more

[@roartsthe3rd328]

Where do you nerf

[@RyanIsRyan_]

They nerf somewhere in Australia I think Sydney

[@ryansadventures8708]

Please make a regulator mod guide

[@johlbenedict4960]

Japan just don't care

[@johlbenedict4960]

Or Chinese

[@cocoabuttervaseline]

N-Stike

[@vincentstefanelli2556]

gosh if only I had a leader to vote for who is as serious as I am about fighting Chinese counterfeit and theft

[@Clickbaiters]

Nope, you don't get to cherry pic what is okay (Worker copying Nerf blasters) or STL's being used without permission to make a copy but in molded form. Your "reasoning" for Worker getting a pass is complete bullshit and it's understandable from someone that makes money doing the "nerf" thing. I have a Woozi (200fps with quad Merlins) and now I also own this clone. Why? 1-I can. 2-To enjoy dopes going into rants about this clone.