Tired of Losing Your Data? Backup Solutions Using DAS

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@HR-wd6cw Жыл бұрын

Even if you don't go the NAS route (which is not for everyone, especially those who shoot for fun/hobby/pleasure) at least get two hard drives for backups (and keep one off-site somewhere, and the other one can be on-site or offsite). But you want at least one copy off site and ideally ,two backups of some sort. (The 3-2-1 plan is best but at least a backup offsite is a start to no backup at all). I mean you can get 4TB external HDDs for $100. It's a small "investment" in protecting your priceless photos.

@AliasJimWirth Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. This storage is what I am looking at now, trying to figure how to go about it and what may be the best option for me. This video and all the information it provides is quite helpful. Again, thank you.

@markwilliamson9199 3 ай бұрын

What a great summary! So many people ask me about my backups and think it is a lot, but isn't!

@scotttild 11 ай бұрын

What the best solution for lots of movies and TV shows. I both download from Apple and rip some. I have had them all on externals but I do kind of keep running out of room, I now have a 16 TB external from a 5 TB external, not sure if I really need anything more. My last one started to fail after 10 years so I had to re rip everything.

@klatlap 8 ай бұрын

I have lost data in the past even when using a NAS, the main issue i have with these raid solutions is the file format, trying to recover from a hardware failure such as the NAS box dieing, if you have large amounts of data cloud services are great until you need to get that data back, very slow process unless they can send you a disk of your data. I opt for a simple solution now, i have an old pc that i have 3 drives installed, 1 is the OS drive, 2nd drive is my data drive, 3rd is the backup drive, each night windows runs a batch file that transfers data from data drive to backup drive, yes i have no versioning, maybe i could solve this with soft software, i could run an online service also, or maybe an additional drive that i disconnect from the system and store elsewhere. For me this mirror back up works well, if a drive fails i simply replace it, no configuring software or issues with a raid array.

@JohnSmith-zl8rz Ай бұрын

which NAS brand?

@andyrcampbell Жыл бұрын

had a das configured in RAID - striped across all disks - lost two disks before I could replace the initial failed drive and LOST THE ENTIRE ARRAY !! I now use JBOD WITH NIGHTLY MIRRORING ACROSS THREE DRIVES ARRAYS AND BACKBLAZE FOR ALL DRIVES.

@PatrickDSimpson Жыл бұрын

What RAID configuration were you using before? I'm also wondering what software you use for nightly mirroring.

@Uberragen21 4 ай бұрын

Should have used better HDDs! I've been running 4 enterprise grade HDDs in RAID 5 for over 10 years before I had 1 HDD fail. I have 2 drives sitting, ready to replace failed drives since the other drives will fail sooner or later. I'm also looking to build out a new NAS or DAS using RAID 6 for extra redundancy. If your setup works, fantastic! I still prefer RAID.

@cristopheridlc Ай бұрын

If they’re striped, if one fail they all fail bro 💀 that’s RAID 0

@strandvaskeren Жыл бұрын

Please, please stop believing that raid allows you to replace a drive and it will magically rebuild with no data loss. I theory it should work that way, but in reality it rarely does. Most drive failures is due to age and the process of rebuilding a new drive puts so much stress on the remaining drives that some of them very commonly fails too, leaving you stranded.

@TIOLIOfficial 11 ай бұрын

So, what is the solution? Checking for drive health constantly? Drives can fail out of nowhere, even though the drive health technically shows no issues.

@maddogtank8425 10 ай бұрын

So in theory, could you Just preemptively, replace, like two of your hard drives with newer hard drives like a year into having it or something and then even if everything hits the fan, you have two solid hard drives to fall back on that or less old than the others

@jdiamond9513 9 ай бұрын

It worked well for me when I lost 1 of my 3 drives in my Mac Pro. Popped the new drive in and it rebuilt itself.

@cmoneytheman 6 ай бұрын

@@maddogtank8425facts i used to think backups was just silly cause I never had a drive die For the first time this year I started losing files for no reason, I no longer think backups is a waste

@maddogtank8425 6 ай бұрын

@@cmoneytheman Yup Me personally, the way that I go about it is because I don't run a Nas Currently, it's simple. All of my ssds are getting replaced every 4 years. I understand that you can keep them for longer. And that they should keep working for longer, but seeing what ssd companies or having happened to some of their older drives right now, I don't think I'm going to trust that So I have backups to backups to backups plus online backups, because the worst possible thing is, i'm in the middle of a project client calls me up.Asks me for a specific file.I go to retrieve, said specific file.And it's magically gone off into the ether

@mtraven23 2 ай бұрын

"JBOD " cracked me the F up! I'm sitting here, with stacks of hard drives on the shelf behind my screen. 🤣🤣🤣 In my defense, I'm watching your & many other's videos in preparation to remedy that.

@BandH 2 ай бұрын

Glad we’re helping you get organized!

@JonathanFranzel Жыл бұрын

Awesome, thank you sir :)

@krishnansrinivasan830 Жыл бұрын

Awesome & Thanks :)

@JosiahK555 Жыл бұрын

Here's the problem with these boxes, what if the box fails? if i use raid 1 and just do a mirror can I take a drive, plug it directly into my computer and get the files? I don't think I can. are there any options that actually allow for that? I just want redundancy, and part of that is not relying on ONE box, and i shouldn't have to get more than 1 box just to make that happen...

@Karl3.142 2 ай бұрын

You’re correct in that the data is lost if the box fails. You also cannot simply plug in a mirrored disk to recover the data, so you’d need to backup the NAS’s data to external hard drive and/or cloud. Rotating offsite, encrypted backup is what I use.

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 2 ай бұрын

look in to unraid i think that might be and option for you it is a paid software though but you can make a array of different size disks and add parity the best part is if more then two disks fail you will only lose data on the disks that failed all the other disks can be loaded on a linux machine and you can still access the data each disk has its own file system that is how it is able to do that :)

@naniglassrdn3134 4 ай бұрын

Can you upgrade the internal drives to larger capacity drives (ie buying the 48tb g-raid shuttle 8 and swapping 1 or more drives for 12tb or bigger drives)?

@Yoshua-Robinson 3 ай бұрын

The safest and by far the cheapest way to store and archive big amounts of data are LTO tapes. With LTO-9 you can store 18TB of data in a single $50 LTO tape. There is absolutely nothing that beats that.

@richardseip4954 3 ай бұрын

True. But how much is an LTO9 drive??

@Yoshua-Robinson 3 ай бұрын

@@richardseip4954 how much is your Data worth? You can find LTO-9 drives for around $5000US but the LTO-7 and LTO-8 are cheaper. There are projects which data itself is hundreds of time worth that. So it depends on your needs. If you work in a $100M Hollywood film with hundreds of film hours recorded in 8K how do you want to backup and archive those TBs and TBs of data on the long term?

@TheAltarOfMadness 3 ай бұрын

@@richardseip4954 $5000+ for the reader lol

@RobertJohnson-lb3qz Жыл бұрын

I have a rookie question, is the RAID version that provides a parity function helpful if one is learning to code or working as a programmer?

@BandH Жыл бұрын

Using RAID for parity isn't going to directly affect coding work other than as a matter of redundancy, which can be helpful should you wish to ensure that your files have backups.

@RobertJohnson-lb3qz Жыл бұрын

@@BandH 👍thanks

@stevenc3943 3 ай бұрын

Hello, would you know if there is a way to Auto shut down a DAS when it is plugged into a UPS. I own a Thunderbay 8 DAS. Thanks.

@JoseFranciscoIT 3 ай бұрын

You can use an smartplug , create an script to unmount the drive then schedule the smartplug to turn off at least 10 minutes later after the unmount

@BandH 3 ай бұрын

The OWC Thunderbay series unfortunately does not offer an auto-shutdown feature.

@stevenc3943 3 ай бұрын

@@JoseFranciscoIT Thanks for replying to my question. 👍

@stevenc3943 3 ай бұрын

@@BandH Thank you for the reply. 👍

@JohnDoe-gb3zh Жыл бұрын

So how do these actually connect to the computer? USB? Thunderbolt? Usb-c? Speed/advantages/disadvantages vs NAS?

@BandH Жыл бұрын

The enclosures in this video are USB-C and thunderbolt. We compare DAS to NAS in our follow up video on NAS solutions that's coming shortly. DAS is generally faster because it's directly attached to the computer whereas NAS is connected to the local network. - Matt

@JohnDoe-gb3zh Жыл бұрын

@@BandH Thank you! Follow up video makes perfect sense.

@RayValdezPhotography Жыл бұрын

I got a new qnap 8 drive nas from BH. I love it. If you have years and years of work it is a good way to go

@TyFord Жыл бұрын

I was recently told that the 4TB Sandisk drive I bought for backing up is a BAD choice because SSD drives need to be powered on a regular basis to work. If you disconnect them and store them unpowered, they will fail. Can you please comment on this?

@waynefong5960 Жыл бұрын

According to my own studies, data is stored in the chip in some sort of electron form. Hence, if you're storing your data in Ur SSD (assuming you're placing your SSD in a hot room) without powering it on for a long time, the electron may somehow become unstable and that's when your data is going.

@jemadv1594 Жыл бұрын

We have four 18 TB HDD in desktop PC that we mirror copy. Offers 36 TB of true storage and 36 TB backup for about $1000. Have another copy in safe just incase. Haven't found a less expensive option for 100+ TB. So you know Backblaze can't offer unlimited FREE cloud storage unless selling your data.

@brenthearn2349 Жыл бұрын

Do you use the desktop just for storage of the drive or for all other tasks?

@korzinko Ай бұрын

Disadvantage of hardware RAID is, that if the controller fails, you may need an identical device with a configuration backup, to restore the RAID.

@vasu925 Жыл бұрын

Is there an enclosure you recommend for JBOD?

@BandH Жыл бұрын

Any of the enclosures mentioned in this video are capable of JBOD so it really depends on how many drives you need and storage requirements. Here are some more JBOD capable enclosures: www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?q=hard%20drive%20enclosures&filters=fct_category%3Ahard_drive_enclosures_8413%2Cfct_raid_1233%3Ajbod

@vasu925 Жыл бұрын

@@BandH Thank you

@zephyrkhambatta 5 ай бұрын

So this is DAS, and not NAS? Seems similar though. Sorry, beginner here. Thank you!

@christophrcolon Жыл бұрын

Woah woah woah! What monitor is that at 1:48!?

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 2 ай бұрын

It says LG but i don't know what model it is :)

@Shermanbay Жыл бұрын

Backing up "to the cloud" is not a reasonable option for some. Cloud storage at present is prohibitive for 100TBs of data. Not only would it take months to upload, but the storage cost is astronomical. By 2030, that might be a viable option, but not 2023.

@vinyleyezz Жыл бұрын

Going with Backblaze’s “Unlimited plan” would work. And then have a fast fiber internet connection.