Bangalore & Bloodhound Nerfs In-Game!

Bangalore & Bloodhound Nerfs In-Game! Apex Legends News. Apex Leaks.
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[@RossTheeSquirrel]

W or L changes?

[@zhanethompson6082]

W

[@garrinperrin4701]

L

[@Lildougboi]

L

[@DocCuredMyAIDS]

L

[@Mika-gu7om]

L havoc still gonna be strong

[@cubalibre100]

EA stupidity has no limits.

[@Ontiming2023]

he’s been overpowered for a while it’s good he’s nerfed

[@j-s-m]

@@Ontiming2023 kinda the point of counters no?

[@senseirbw2395]

@@Ontiming2023 character needs should be made to make them balanced. Not to make them unplayable. In a perfect world of apex all players would be viable to play

[@knoxhsieh]

@zudnit is. Almost every team on algs have bloodhound which means he’s pretty op

[@MagentaSnow]

@@knoxhsiehop or well balanced? How about instead of making characters worse we make other characters better????

[@ramsesivanblanco5925]

Now bloodhound ultimate is just a glorified Octane Stim

[@TheGoldenApex]

Yep😭😭😭

[@beaniehq5887]

@@ramsesivanblanco5925 octane is goated

[@zencollywobbles1463]

Yeah one that gives him reduced tac cooldown…

[@outcome2715]

Basically

[@scorpioguy11376]

Bloodhound's ult is almost useless now

[@Kailioli]

@@scorpioguy11376 good

[@Jojosenjoyer0824]

45% Increase move speed is Useless?

[@spicywater798]

​@@Jojosenjoyer0824 Octane

[@dannypratama4235]

Bloodhound, nerfhound 😅

[@Cjdodkcjorofkdpspals]

@@Jojosenjoyer0824octane has that as a tac

[@oscardruke5106]

Oh, thank god they nerfed de 4x10 scope. Now we can fight equally those 3 guys in the whole planet who use to use it.

[@anthonyhontz835]

ong fam i never see that in anyones death box lol

[@p4sh651]

​@@anthonyhontz835 you'll see em later game because of the rats who sit there pick their ass and snipe

[@angelverduzco1618]

​@@p4sh651no one runs the sniper digi unless they can't find a scope lol

[@wetstinkysocks2950]

Lmao arguably the most useless optic in the game, its like a bus sitting on your gun 😂 now no one is gonna use it lol.

[@trg618911]

I hate sinper scopes all together. If they just took them out I wouldn’t be mad at all.

[@papercrane747]

Bloodhounds ult is useless. Gold sniper sight is useless. Havoc remains ridiculously broken. Truly an apex moment

[@bigidot6973]

Havoc has been nearly untouched since release they jus keep nerfing everything to the ground if the havoc broken lets nerf the devo too, flatline to since it's same dmg better recoil slightly less fire rate, and then the rest of the guns since they're too strong now

[@yosemite4real]

@@papercrane747 They just nerfed bh's counter against bang not against other legends. Also before there was digi sights which allowed bang to see bloodhound through smoke. So now both legends are nerfed and it's a even playing field.

[@Azrail6574]

@@yosemite4real”gas and smoke” so caustic too

[@MontySlython]

@@yosemite4real not even remotely true, that minute nerf to her smoke was only within 20 meters meanwhile now blood can't see them when ulted until that point something he used to have within like 60 meters or whatever the contrast limit was on enemies, now his ult literally only has a speed boost and nothing else.

[@yosemite4real]

@@MontySlython Imagine this situation, a team is running bang and hound and smokes the enemy team and houd ults, what can the enemy team do in this situation?

[@dawnm9462]

Respawn makes nerfs according to how a professional player died that one time I swear

[@supermoistbread]

The fact that they nerf legends and guns based on ALGS stats and what pro players have to say is going to be the downfall of this game. They’re catering to less than 0.1% of the player base.

[@drocxxx712]

Absolutely they shoulda at least made it so you can see something maby for a shorter duration or something don't think he needed a nerf was not op at all

[@arcanearcadia1347]

They’ve been doing that since the beginning of apex and ppl still play

[@p4sh651]

Now I don't wanna burst your bubble but every game with a pro league listens to the pro league players before its actual community soooooo

[@damiengray9152]

The games been trashed since season 8

[@p4sh651]

@@damiengray9152 😱 who would've thought a game would be trash if it's been out for 5 years 🤦‍♂️ ofc the games been trash lol br's are the hardest games to maintain because all ppl do is whine and complain (you) and you can never really make a "perfect" br because there isn't one

[@hattytheman446]

Wtf is the point of a smoke that dosent make me harder to see like what?

[@edmo1450]

Its referring to bloodhounds Ultimate. Only pertaining to him. His special ability , basically a thermal sight. If ur talking about realism, does bang suddenly lose all form heat when in smoke?

[@jameswilsonjr3452]

They're basically taking her counters away. Stop crying if anything, it's a small buff to bang and caustic. They weren't needed but people like you complaining about digi threat is the reason it's being taken out the game

[@ilikewaffles2321]

They just changed it from something to use anytime anywhere to only repositioning and escape how it should have always been

[@fiar6513]

⁠​⁠@@jameswilsonjr3452ppl are free to give their options. Like why you're behaving as if you have shares in apex

[@chieff6570]

That’s why they removed the digi’s up close and personal with bang only

[@axilverse]

RIP bloodhound. you served your purpose well. You may rest now

[@brickedupgranny]

they shitted so bad on bloodhound that’s crazy

[@lariatnova3565]

All L changes. Even with the havoc. We needed a damage reduction, not a mag reduction

[@Mrpoised]

@@lariatnova3565 yeah, make it 1 damage per shot so it will take 10min to finish fight and u already got 16th party shooting u. Apex time to kill is super stupid

[@Emvymcla]

Nah it needed a mag reduction for sure. I was holding rt and frying two people in one clip

[@nachukwu]

Actually a mag reduction and a slight recoil nerf

[@ej-5487]

It does the same damage as the flatline with a similar fire rate, at that point nerf the flatline then

[@endgamer5593]

Nerfing damage shouldn’t become a trend because look at what Apex has done to the R-99.

[@twappyy8310]

No point in even calling the scope a digital threat lmao

[@vik7946]

Ah yes. A white outline to better distinguish people in *white smoke*. Perfect addition

[@PersoN808]

EA did this for increasing the pick rate to sell that recolor shitty knife

[@hunter66630]

EA/Respawn always nerf popular legends to the point where they're useless. What about making other legends/weapons more fun and good, instead of just nerfing everything to the point that it's useless... I like the havoc changes though, it is still just as strong as meta, It always had a too big mag for a regular AR.

[@OctaneSilva-u4v]

Bang basically carryin around a humidifier

[@QuarintineGod1282]

😂

[@kakku0608]

Bangalore mains were so mad that they weren't able to heal in their smoke😅😅😅😅😅

[@raghulg6155]

I wish I haven't played this game 3 years before

[@Pharrow]

They kind of invalidated the point of Bloodhound’s scans and it makes 0 sense why They’re a hunter that can intuit the tracking mechanics of interdimensional rifts but not smoke 😵‍💫

[@cuckooman3376]

It's the thermal vision of the ult not the tactical EDIT: yeah it's still dumb

[@VeniVidiVici-OG]

They were cooking until that Bloodhound Ult change

[@isthatDUDEMAN]

I like how the havoc was basically just before and before

[@ShatteringKatana]

Because the mag size change affects mid-long range fights, especially without the turbocharger, and multiple engagements. Stationary, one on one, mid-close range drills don't really show the nuance of how the havoc becomes less viable at 20 shots per mag.

[@aetherstrafes]

@@ShatteringKatana its still #1 used...

[@ShatteringKatana]

@@aetherstrafes The before and after comparison still means nothing. It doesn't take into account the other types of engagements which have gotten worse for the havoc, especially on no mag or white. 4 more shots on a weapon that can't be tap fired (meaning you will have to sustain a burst) create a disadvantage in longer range fights.

[@aetherstrafes]

@@ShatteringKatana you are right it still just doesnt feel like its enough i still get one clipped by more havocs than any other gun.

[@sideswipe2247]

Meh changes. Outline in smoke is okay, but I don’t think they needed to touch the 4-10X. It’s barely used anyway. They should’ve touched the havoc’s damage and reduced mag size. It’s still gonna be too good Edit - I know they reduced mag size lol 😂 I think it still does too much damage with the changes. Should’ve hit the damage as well as the mag size, if yah get me

[@armaninunez6663]

@@sideswipe2247 seriously no nah still did 236 damage with no Mag

[@armaninunez6663]

No mag^*

[@Emvymcla]

They lowered the mag size

[@kainai4468]

@@Emvymcla then decreasing the mag isn’t shit no offense they did the same with the 301 & ppl still bean with it. they need to change something with recoil, fire rate, or something shit maybe no turbocharger 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@bigidot6973]

Why is the goal to make the ttk 10 seconds?

[@THEFARTHER830]

The bird should at least help direct Blood in the smoke.

[@dmay6637]

i need them stop making unnecessary bloodhound changed before i lose my mind

[@JackedandStacked]

“nerf shit that’s totally fine, leave the overpowered shit alone.” - Respawn balancing philosophy

[@taven580]

I can’t believe what I’m watching …

[@TACJHON_]

L blood should've just gotten a longer ult charge or a quicker fade out on the tact when enemies are in a longer distance from you

[@erikgonzales3178]

WHY WOULD THEY DO THIS TO BLOODHOUND??? Makes me not even wanna play anymore. It was a great counter to the smoke

[@ghostscyther8667]

Bug: YOU CAN SEE A FRAME WITH BH it's OP LOL

[@garey_0435]

All of the changes made to bloodhound and Bangalore in this patch have to be some of the most braindead balancing decisions ever made… respawn has been completely missing the real issues with the game balance in the last 2 seasons

[@VspikeEU]

Every one saying bang got nerfed shit be looking like a big buff

[@koolkaleb19]

They basically changed stuff that’s been the same since the beginning. Changing a key feature for Bloodhounds Ult is just stupid and inconsiderate of the people who play them. Especially with removing the digi and the red outline for the digi when it comes to smokes which is the only good thing about a digi in the first place.

[@Littlename13]

I think that the mythic scope should honestly have a thermal mode so people can see through the smoke and it's easier to see through it but it's also like a mythic item so it's kind of hard to get

[@ZuluZuluEcho]

I love how people are saying blood is useless but the only change is its pairing with bang, and people are saying bangs smoke is useless bc it’s the whole point of smoking but it only changes up close fights

[@The_Wither_Skull]

problem is that respawn has no idea how bang players actually play her. they think smoke is used only in defense on yourself (smoke heal perk for example) but in reality it was always used on the enemy 4/5 times to disrupt the enemy so you are able to push them. The average player will have a much harder time to defend agressive smokes now as bang and her team can easily see where they are, while the opponents dont even know where they are coming from.

[@orionsdetailing]

Might as well do re-work on bloodhound that was the whole gimmick for him lol

[@ItzEr1c21]

I used to love apex, but all the new changes changed my love for the game.

[@BtwY]

So glad I quit this terrible game. Devs are just making worse and worse changes with every patch

[@cbinsanity5498]

havoc nerfs is equal to iron man picking up friday instead of jarvis

[@erikgonzales3178]

Makes me not even wanna play the game anymore. Bloodhound nerf was not needed

[@VeX_Unknown]

Absolutely the worst changes they’ve made. Bloodhound is now “useless” his tactical can easily be outclassed by others now (crypto drone, seer ult/tac). The white highlight is whatever but the point of smoke is to be invisible in the open. The point of bloodhound is to see things harder to see. Both of the base points of these legends just got removed. Reduced mag size on the havoc doesn’t matter if it’s still one mag to down red evo. Needs a damage reduction, wind up increase something more than just that. They may as well just remove the 4x-10x, people ONLY used it for the digithreat aspect and now that’s gone.

[@aldsyhptr]

so what's point of digi-threat optics now, since this change made it completely useless in battle

[@largesmack8517]

Highlight is a bit overkill. I'd fade it by at least 30-40%. Looks easier to see people in the smoke than out 😂

[@AlexGrey-fm6yb]

bro the before and after felt the exact same for the Havoc lmao

[@Ktx_Defined]

Havoc: Still just exists

[@JM_Tushe]

I'm glad Bangalore's smoke now does what it was supposed to do.

[@TWD_fan3000]

I main Bloodhound, and it sucks to see them get nerfed. I stopped playing because it just got boring, like every match I played was the same. I'm not even excited about this next season.

[@yumithehunter6292]

I mean the Bangalore stuff kinda sounds like buff and a little thing to help motion sickness while bloodhound got… yeah

[@dr_spankz]

“Yea people have been getting killed in smokes a lot let’s just take away the purpose of it and let everyone see each other”- APEX DEV BRAIN

[@DoctorMedicine_]

The digital threat scope kinda makes sense. What’s the point of having smokes if there’s a chance they can have some rare item that completely negates it without you knowing

[@triple_a3x379]

Glad the havoc got some change to it really getting tired dying to this gun

[@mohamedrafik9271]

Bloodhound's nerf makes no sense to be honest.

[@Taijuu1]

really want 2019-2021 apex back

[@Everready_904]

So kill bloodhound and do nothing to the havoc. Got it

[@0dcsauce]

I really wish they would stop nerfing legends because of ALGS. This shows how incompetent they are and how much they cater to pros/streamers.

[@raghulg6155]

Respawn is known for its worst legends balancing.

[@evcy]

So glad I dropped this game and found something else to play. I used to main bloodhound and literally just wanna know why? EA never fails at disappointing their fans

[@focus_gaming1438]

I like how characters were introduced to counter other characters…. Then they ruined it.😂

[@davidhaynes5100]

The point of digital threats was for smoke and gas

[@opt1cg4m1ng6]

As a bang main I’m just done taking another break. I’m so tired of this game destroying good shit because of comp players. How does the g7 need a buff it’s already a demon and why have we still not touched the nemi

[@duiweldier2384]

Every time I see someone comment that the havoc is still a overpowered weapon even with its mag size reduction still don’t use against a moving target dummy or actually person for that matter making it seem that it’s still has powerful has before the nerf

[@iamnut8339]

Could have used a timer instead of a total block of sight for the gold scope and BLs ult

[@MeekGoCrazii]

Ea is going down drastically 😂 this game changed so much and its getting worse

[@supersparksbros]

It's about time. I'm Bang since day 1. She's my fav and she never gets any love. Finally smoke buff. So excited for this. And yes it changes Bloodhounds abilities. But it's only in the smoke. So it's more like a shield helps keep players from charging. His abilities Are still solid 99% of the time. So I think it'll be fine.

[@hokage_knowledge]

No need for the 4-10x now and bang out is a nerf make a smoke non seeable with threat vision, it’s smoke! I understand the white some that that’s a buff on both parts

[@laughtales4991]

Imagine changing a scope thats supposed to have thermal lensing, to not be able to see thermal readings lol, EA is full of dunce caps.

[@patrikheinonen7645]

That havoc nerf did nothing :D still the best 1v1 weapon at close

[@vaporwave2339]

I see EA took some notes from Ubisoft...

[@MrSkullhead0]

Hot take but I like all these changes. I think the bloodhound nerf is a little agressive. there’s a lot of good players other than pros who abused the can’t see sh- meta. I’m hoping they can add something else to the ultimate to make it more than just a glorified octane stim though. Maybe like a built in health siphon to get health back on knock to bring back the beast aspect?

[@Spirit-WLVS]

Havoc is still gonna be a monster, its jus less forgiving now

[@kuzanjp9336]

Why are people freaked out about the nerf when killing legends synergy has always been Respawn way of nerfing legends for a long time now. Rev Reborn creation removed the potential of any broken Rev Totem combo in the future, Conduit tactical and Rev Reborn ult can't be used together anymore and BloodBang synergy was killed but instead everyone got the privileges Bloodhound has since day 1 and all of the changes ended up being good for the meta.

[@sword9396]

$360 heirloom content ✅ Unfair nerfs to cater to pro players who died that 1 time ✅ Awesome map renovations ✅ Let’s make this game the best and most fun for all the people who made us rich ❌

[@RefRed_King]

Another day of the respawn devs crashing out.

[@TheGoldenApex]

I can’t believe they nerfed bloodhound like that. Absolutely useless. Love u Ross ur the goat!!!🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️🐐🐐🐐

[@juanpaolosantiago7137]

Just remove the smoke hahaha

[@joeybleu]

They have destroyed Bloodhound’s entire kit.. how is a tracking legend not able to track .. they’re the original one too now, if you scan .. you better not blink or else you’ll miss their location

[@Mashu_GG]

The thermal scope nerf is dumb. I knew about nerfing bloodhound ult and thats fine. But they need to change the scope now. Thermals can see through smoke. Just make it a regular 4-10x and make it epic. Useless now.

[@chillNinjaLowSkill]

wow i guess respawn really got tired of seeing Blood Bang duo every damn time in algs since this game dropped 💀 i kinda like this change mostly because i don’t play either of them and i think it will change up team comps in pro play making it more refreshing (or at least i hope so)

[@karimaxwell5290]

Is it a nerf for banga, or a slight buff if you play her smoke tactically as teams push you. Im in two minds about it.

[@eknockonxbox4900]

About time. The rise of seer begins.

[@Itsturkynotturky]

As a Bang main..I hate this...But for Bloodhound... *Please give my BLUD a break* 😭🙏

[@martintieber7756]

The problem is that they have to balance the weapons for 2 different hardware options. The havoc on mouse and keyboard was strong, but hard to control. For controller players its a completely different experience. I played both on masters level for 15 seasons and its insane how I can swap my loadouts when I'm on controller. They need to figure out how to deal with aim assist better. I have way less experience with controller, yet my results are at least the same, because its so much easier to clip people. This and cheating are much bigger issues than weapon balance.

[@kavid8120]

At this point why even bother getting Heirlooms for our Favs if they’re just gonna nerf em to the ground 😢

[@bobrossdevilbrush]

Havoc is the same, the smoke changes are ridiculous

[@tinytinachocochip2896]

They really Said "how Can we make bloodhound useless"

[@CrystalSkyDrops175]

Eh to me the biggest what’s it for now is the Digi. Like fine ig but it’s not like everyone ended up with one I think they could’ve still had it look through smoke

[@Oldpancreas]

Bangalore healing in the smoke is useless now

[@solomontauveli2830]

L they change it based on ALGS that shouldn’t affect the community at all. They should apply these rules to there scrimmages. They play scrims most of the time. So I don’t see how the community should be involved with these updates.

[@shawnc8121]

The bang and blood nerf is actually a controller buff

[@marvinmack6943]

Bloods job is to see people if you take that away then theres no point of playing him

[@rimrockin600]

The scope not seeing anything through digital is bullshit, that's like it's purpose

[@Zombieknockin]

So there's actually 0 point into the 10 times now, it's just a bigger zoom

[@thezombieguy2234]

Nah those nerfs are wild for blood hound

[@isacm4005]

Ah yes we playing in backwards now

[@Holyluckdan]

you don't have to be in the same smoke to get the outline.

[@SpicyLilCannoli]

The 4 bullet nerf to the best gun in the game making 0 difference in the 100 to 0. Hawt.

[@gaberandstuder751]

RIP my main lmao. bloodhound got nerfed to the ground. RIP my fav legend and main. (i will still be playing bloodhound but won’t be the same)

[@CjMichaelperez]

U were never supposed to see people through the smoke thats why its smoke w changes

[@jcgamer1650]

Respawns stupidity knows no limits i swear.