The Carli Bitterman Case - Fatal Vows - True Crime

[@FullTimePatient37]

People saying why didn't she just turn off her phone..you can't do that with an abuser ..or even be late to answer...they take it personally and dangerously!

[@Kari.F.]

Talk about the issue of having children or not before you get married. I'm always astonished about how little some couples know about each other before they get married. Even couples who have been dating for two, three or four years often don't know the first thing of any importance about each other when they say "I do". No wonder divorce is so common.

[@elliesaailem777]

You are right. Speaking from experience 😢

[@katerinagiannioudi401]

I was with my husband 5 years prior to having our 1st child. We were married for 30 till he passed away and I still miss him.

[@roslynbyers5415]

I knew my husband for 1 year when we married, 35 year's later still married, still in love

[@TinkerTaylor-zv1ml]

When I met my guy, the first thing I said "if you want kids, better move on". He stuck around, happy that he found a girl that was at the same point as him.

[@Kari.F.]

@@TinkerTaylor-zv1ml And THAT is how to deal with that question! 👏

[@tahaahmed-wl9rs]

This program is well devised the narrator along with the psychologist and the psychotherapist,it is just a great job.

[@AnimaLibera]

*When it hurts, it's not love.* I can't stand it when perpetrators claim that "I love her so much" is a justification for their abominable actions.

[@Matilda-y]

Only 1 subject to graduate your course, all that free time, surrounded by law enforcement people that could help you… girl!!!!!

[@birgithiisjarv4465]

Yeah but also makes me think if the future husband maybe manipulated her or why didn't she have any people to motivate her "it's only one course, you can do it". I gave up on gettingy drivers license and I had so many people who pushed me forward ( I went back to other type of school) and motivated me. So sad she didn't have it. Because of she had she would have had.more guts to leave after first ted flags.

[@Matilda-y]

@@birgithiisjarv4465 so glad you pushed through and achieved your goal. Having people willing to support you is a wonderful thing. Not easy to find those people though.

[@ImagingUltrasoundInc-tz1ho]

What jreff give her was not love and adoration it was obsession and possession

[@fairysnuff-000]

This couple seemed not to know many important things about each other before they got married… This woman obviously was ‘flattered’ for some reason at the fact that the guy wanted to be with her all the time for a couple of years… she also went along with it and dropped her own study/ friends/ independence, by choice… Then she got fed up with it… and found other people to flirt with, until then though, she had condoned his behaviour by her response to it…. In no way do I think his final actions were ok, or understandable (before I get the usual ‘victim blame’ response), he was a lunatic!! But when we look at these sorts of cases afterwards, we always act as though these things just came out of nowhere and just in one person in the relationship…

[@LH-gc2si]

Why don't people get divorced before making the situation a total mess??? She was finished with him, so why not get a divorce? I really don't understand it.

[@katerinagiannioudi401]

Probably stayed for financial stability

[@RichardCorongiu]

Yes you should do this but you can't negotiate with a narcissist. These people are about...I will never believe I am wrong...how can you NOT do as I say.. believe me.I KNOW...my old man was/is like that....

[@RichardCorongiu]

​@@katerinagiannioudi401probably 80 percent of marriages are like this

[@RichardCorongiu]

Per my first comment...it looks a bit like this...I always wondered why the old man (mine) never killed my mother. Well it goes like this. Way back when , I told my mother to leave him. In short she never did. Nor did he see any threat of another relationship. So...always in total control ....no need. If the need arose I'm absolutely positive he would have killed her. Am I going to his funeral ? Wadda you reckon...

[@siouxsioux2725]

Because he would have killed her anyway. Statistics prove when women chose to leave, is the most dangerous time. Divorce is not safe or simple

[@chewytruthseeker5274]

I was in a relationship like this, it is stressful, difficult, heartbreaking & isolating... for 11yrs... He became offhandedly abusive, but when it began occurring in front of my young children...I decided to leave, because I felt sure another strangulation sold be my end... but more so because, I did not want my children growing up believing that kids of disgusting treatment was in any way acceptable or normal.

[@vivohanzo]

Be thankful that ur alive

[@oluwafunbiakinola0104]

Glad U made it out alive!

[@PREZWorld67]

I couldn't understand why she just didn't turn off her phone

[@karinbendter3246]

That was my first thought too.

[@Matilda-y]

At least on silent, not answer in work hours or visiting in the hospital.

[@AnimaLibera]

@@Matilda-y She would have regretted it. It's just not something you do when you deal with a coercive narcissistic abuser.

[@Faith-august..]

The only Chanel I’ve seen new episodes 👏🏻👏🏻

[@CT-od5dl]

Why do we continue to call abuse "love" in these programs? If you are so filled with personal demons, like Jeff, you can't love another person for their qualities. Poor Carli. I find it very sweet her stepmother, mother and father speak so lovingly about her. That's love.

[@lisbethlarsen6427]

Very sad with two young lives wasted, as well as everyone else around them. Obsessive jealousy, the most meaningless feeling...

[@ASmith-qs2ps]

Which police officer, especially a rookie answers 911 emergency calls alone?

[@Kari.F.]

Cops receive their calls to go to the addresses where crimes have been committed from the 911 dispatchers. How else are they going to know where to go and what the emergency is?

[@Matilda-y]

Yes, that part makes no sense. MSG over dispatch, everybody knows, gun crime, unexpected death, and just one little rookie is allowed to attend.

[@elliesaailem777]

​The key word in the comment was "alone"

[@Kari.F.]

@@elliesaailem777 Yes, it is now. As you can tell, the comment has been edited.

[@MerrilynHoskins]

Love Stacey and Brian. They have so much to contribute. So sensible. Thank you for making this show.

[@jewels3895]

A touch of fate getting the best rookie cop.

[@razadaza9651]

So these Psychology “experts” really wanted Carly to go out and ride the carousel.. sad…

[@ronniemavhunga]

Cheating is never the answer. Those 2 analysts don't seem to understand what it feels like to be cheated on

[@siouxsioux2725]

Yeah but no reason to hurt anyone

[@aislingirish4503]

​@@siouxsioux2725I agree with the commenter she brought it on herself grow up and leave If u wanna cheat

[@denitristan8287]

Making fun out of emergency calls sounds kinda cringy to me . Nothing funny there .

[@TheZamfot]

😢this is abuse Coercive control is real and damaging. I feel badly for this lady There is a lot of victim blaming as well here

[@FullTimePatient37]

What 0:16 it's the scariest type of man..a corrupt policeman! Where could she run if things got bad..I'd consider such relationships a thousand times before getting into one!

[@ladyfierce24]

So she gave up on her dreams 1 course away.... Ma'am this man wants to own you.... Smh

[@pamelabennett2143]

Thing is she flunked a major course in her studies and was too embarrassed to continue from what i understood as well.

[@maureenmoh9137]

What do y'all have against the analysts? 😂i like them

[@pamelabennett2143]

They add absolutely nothing, they tell us what we already know, they are so annoying, sometimes i give up listening.

[@RyanOuKow]

How do you get rid of them

[@carolann3249]

Why didn’t she tell her parents , they would have helped her leave

[@valhipkiss4011]

Unless you have lived this life , you will never know .

[@ronniemavhunga]

Its amazing how these analysts always defend the cheating wife

[@lcct635]

Maybe is because is a criminal show and not a moral show?

[@TinkerTaylor-zv1ml]

In case you didn't notice, he was a possessive, mentally abusive man. I don't blame her for trying to escape the corner she was pushed into. With his behaviour he had a lot to do with her cheating on him. And in case you missed it, he killed her, I guess that trumps cheating? Or has going with someone else the death penalty nowadays?

[@dimitrageorgiadi5087]

Should they defend the killer? You sound quite danderous to me.

[@aislingirish4503]

​@@dimitrageorgiadi5087oh grow up she's far from innocent in this

[@MignonArends]

Can't these 2 be taken off air

[@michaelhoey-n7g]

as yet while watching this i can only say that the man is at fault

[@FBH6O]

I will not be watching your Videos anymore because of the two exasperating, so-called armchair "experts'', who's getting on peoples last nerve🤬

[@elizaspencer8107]

We don't need their opinion so very annoying

[@Matilda-y]

Just click the 10 sec skip button a few times and it’s like they dont exist.

[@lmichaelson2000]

I really doubt the channel that uploaded the video even cares if you want to watch it or not 😂 I mean they don't make the videos themselves so your comment is completely dumb and a waste of time, Karen.

[@queva3062]

It took her 3/4 long minutes to die😢

[@kennedypaul4332]

When the mom said "Who could be more protective of your child than a cop 😢😢😢

[@grahamnewton3637]

These two armchair 'experts' are completely unnecessary.

[@vanlalpeka2808]

A cheater and a paranoid man😂

[@bronwyncleland7632]

The minute I see these two relationship ‘gurus’ I switch off. Analyses after the fact isn’t enlightening or required.

[@lisa-pz2px]

I think it's nice but they are not even analysing, they are starting the obvious

[@PROSnCONSpodcast]

Me too 😂😂😂 They ruin it.

[@ccandice78]

😂😂😂 yea

[@natashamhone2232]

I always fast forward when they come up😂.

[@damienluxford4480]

I like them both.

[@Maureen_Koech]

Love you Stacey & Brian! Dont you ever leave the show! 😘😘💪🏽😄

[@elismarques7668]

Hunting🤮🤮🤮hunting🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@simpleliving431]

Maybe she would have been satisfied just staying at home and taking care of children, but he refused. Later he agreed to her getting a job, this tells me he was delusional about how much control he thought he actually had and also that he was more interested in money. He may have been obsessed about how much influence he had over her when she was just a teenager, but as she grew, it became too much frustrating for him. Nevertheless, getting her a job was certainly worse than agreeing to having children, from his perspective, but he never saw it coming.

[@mrsmerily]

Sorry, but lets be honest if you look at the picture... she was way out of his league... he was totally insecure to begin with it and knew she was out of his league and this was leathel coctail to begin with

[@valhipkiss4011]

This is a reenactment 😝 not the real people .

[@rubie5777]

"she was having an affair, so? Is it a reason for her to be murdered?" MAYBE. No matter how rocky the relationship is, please end it well. Cheating is never a solution. I wonder why his lawyer didn't push for a "crime of passion" if they clearly knew she was cheating.

[@charmaine583]

Eh... because its not,its premeditated.

[@comunidadaerea2400]

This excuse is not valid in all states.Did you hear that she was leaving home the next day? Furthermore, he knew that she was having extramarital affairs. This legislation only works when the couple is found consummating the act. USA legislation is outdated. In Western Europe, extramarital affairs are not an excuse for anything. They were married, but that does not mean that one is the owner of the other. He could abandon her the same way she abandoned him.

[@mercyetago4020]

That cop guy was a lunatic

[@chichikampamba]

Here already 🎉

[@oseandrew9582]

They dated for a long time ... thats enough to know each other .... the truth is humans can act mysteriously in different ways .... some people just dont know how to handle some situation ... take it to the extreme and at the end cost them everything ...

[@soneelita]

Most times Psychotherapists are useless , they never offer any solution to your problems. They make you choose your own decisions . Carly should not have had an affair

[@neneokuzu8793]

I came early 😮

[@RichardCorongiu]

No he doesn't love her or adore her psychopogist....he owns her or he thinks he does. Stop misrepresenting this !

[@estellewadsworth4187]

ABSOLUTELY THIS ISNT SOMETHING YOU DISCUSS INTO THE MARRIAGE. THIS MAN OS RIDICULOUS. OH WOW THIS MARRIAGE SMACKS OF CONTROL

[@Douglas_Hamilton]

45:35 might explain why he was afraid to be left alone

[@katerinagiannioudi401]

She cheated when she could have just left. Maybe she didnt not to loose her financial stability. Why else did she stay for 11 years?

[@FAVORTV]

😢

[@baggytanes6117]

Present ✋😊

[@RyanOuKow]

Oh yah it's infuriating just skip over them

[@marcosgicher7818]

Both were WRONG.

[@TheZamfot]

😡😡😡NO!!! the murderer Jeff is wrong and your opinion is absolutely disturbing and part of the problem

[@ronniemavhunga]

Cheating is dangerous

[@damienluxford4480]

Stacey and Brian are legends 😂

[@shugunderitu8999]

so u tell him that you are leaving?????????? women!!!!!!!!!! just leave unannounced

[@veszter6]

I don't like the horrible leg lift of Brian and always boots on and irritable voice of his older whatever psychiatric

[@razadaza9651]

I don’t care what any feminists says, but I put a lot of blame on Carly’s parents

[@mariarajn8574]

It's exploding

[@MercedesBenz-m9t]

Fast forward the so called experts

[@valhipkiss4011]

lol so the cadet cop & the homicide cop walk through the bedroom with blood all over the floor 😅😅, pretty bad reporting .

[@ascensionvaldes1412]

😮she seemed superficial to me

[@Clint-thoughts-travels]

These two so called experts that condone disgusting, cheating behaviour are the problem in society today. This woman could have worked on her relationship, or left it. The men that she go involved in, must also take responsibility for her death. The husband loved her, and seemed to be willing to take her back after her unfaithful escapades. Whilst I do not condone what he did, he was driven to it... Carli, was the real abuser... not her husband.

[@razadaza9651]

Condolences, but Carly was selfish and had poor impulse control… an unpleasant person I would say

[@nalungaprossy1735]

What do women want really?

[@kennyking5606]

She was a cheat. I don't feel sorry for her, just runaway if you can't live with him .

[@kimalison]

Its the price she get for cheating.if shes done why not divorce him before she want to do anything she love.

[@MaiT-h4b]

Can we just call it is as it is .. she “cheated “n she got wat she deserved… if u not prepared to deal with what marriage comes with don’t coz it’s in mans nature to be possessive… period

[@dimitrageorgiadi5087]

Your views are vile. No one deserves to be murdered no matter what. Are you a muslim or something?

[@champeesand]

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