brendan behan-fighting words part 3

[@IshtarCelt]

The reason the Irish have such long memories is because we have an ancient oral cultural tradition; memory is alive in our placenames, stories, song and lives, even in the layered etymology of our words, both in English and in our native Irish (Gaeilge)

[@margaretmckitty9767]

Brilliant reply. The brits forget or never learned ( nor did tge workd( that their blessed MAGNA CARTA was influenced by tge Irish Brehon Law system. The conqueror is always influenced by the culture they conquer. Our Articles of Confederation here in US that preceeded Constitutuon were influenced by the Iroquois Confederacy That legal system was from the 13 century. We all heard the blessed genufkect genuinely Magna Carla King John at Runnemede didn't we. Nana about Irish law

[@TrekkerP1]

Long memories preserve us.

[@Paul5520]

BB - Gone but not forgotten.

[@anatefcan13]

"I don't even call this cynicism anymore, it's just simple idiocy!"

[@TOMMYd0888]

Haha, I'm liking this Canadian dude more and more every clip too.

[@interestpart260]

Victims of oppression have long painful memories. Colonisers (oppressors) write the history and like to forget their heavy handed tactics.

[@ScottMadera]

It's always nice to see people coming together to respectfully discuss different opinions and views. This is how true progress happens.

[@22grena]

What an utter english prick

[@MrNiceHk]

How good is this

[@amadandubh7289]

"Don't you think the Irish enjoyed their oppression? There are some countries in the world that enjoy being oppressed." Imagine even thinking that, let alone saying it on TV to the world? Shameful.

[@patmcc7758]

Look at us Irish today. Successful, confident and genuinely proud.

[@Ricardo-mr3bg]

Crybabies then , crybabies now.

[@outlawpete6728]

“ You could of got a job in the SS !!” .. man Brendan !

[@classican]

Great video!!!

[@stevie2109]

This is great

[@tone.rec_5557]

2:55

[@edgeofwest5741]

Maybe it takes much longer to forget occupation, genocide and brutality than it does to forget you're to blame

[@lulassong6524]

Hear! Hear!

[@mcpcartman]

you should have got a job in the SS

[@NewFalconerRecords]

It was just getting interesting and then "DING" time's up. I wish they'd had this discussion in the earlier part of the show. Nevertheless, fascinating stuff, thank you so much for posting it.

[@yoyoholck]

New Falconer Records i know, really disappointed that happened.

[@LovingKimiKatkar]

Read "Borstal Boy."

[@craighicksartwork]

It's normal to never forget. But nations have to forgive because 99% of violent oppressions are organised by those in charge, not the people.

[@seanbonoconroy]

The reason why the Irish have 'such long memories' as opposed to the English is because what happened to the Irish was extreamly worse, where the Irish had 800 years of violent oppression from the English. Its easy for the English to forget their history with the Germans, especially when they beat the Germans in WW2. What this English guy is saying here is completly unfair and he is being purely pigheaded and ignorant.

[@harpersneil]

Don't worry, Ireland is about to hand it's bollocks over to the EU - see how much more fun you have with those clowns than you did with the English. God Save The Queen!

[@margaretmckitty9767]

He is a typical upper class Brit Arrogant opinionated lacking in empathy. A truly narcissistic elitist

[@michaelbermingham4502]

I think the real quote is "If the Dutch owned Ireland they'd feed the world, etc"

[@seanbonoconroy]

@preacain Ha Ha very good. Thumbs up for the african fella!

[@proudneanderthalnotfromafr7197]

brenden to the brit you should have got a job with the German ss brit;Oh yes they paid well

[@Zooboy1994]

A few important points and differences between the Irish and English experience of invasion needs to be made. The Saxons and then the Normans invaded England and assimilated and intermarried with the 'Britons' of the day. However, As an Irishman I think its interesting that the 'English' failed so miserably in integrating the Irish. I think the difference between the Irish having a long memory against the English experience of invasion and conquest. While the English experienced Roman, Saxon and Norman invasions of its mainland, this was much different from the experience of Ireland. The Irish situation was complicated by both differences in their religious and language identity. I think Ireland was far more difficult to subjugate for those reasons hence the measure to do so became more brutal. The English failed to subjugate the Irish for 700 years. Another major difference was that the Roman and Saxon invasions had occurred 1,000 years earlier in the case of the roman invasion and 600-700 years earlier with the Saxon invasion. Religious identity as well as cultural and national identity were still evolving. The Irish to the English experience is very different to the English experience. The Penal laws as well as Famine and evictions are not experiences that would live short in any ones memory. The Irish were always more of a 'colonized' people as opposes to an assimilated people for all of the above reasons. I do agree however that we need to get over it now and I cringe sometimes at the nonsense of 'Celtic football club' jersey wearing wannabe republicans protesting the Queens visit a few years ago. That nonsense is embarrassing

[@jcmangan]

"If the Dutch had Ireland there would be a garden if the Irish had Holland they would all drown." :-)

[@TheKittu]

Isnt this a canadian show? I can see the CBC mark in the corner

[@rachzen]

Yes.

[@familysfightinghomelessnes605]

The Irish are the Fighting Irish of the world and not to be unde eatamed as a small nation of 4million or over.

[@preacaininternational5637]

Any one that continues that fight remains irish

[@cosmicman621]

@@preacaininternational5637 ...☘️🌹🌈

[@thomasmantellwilliam]

Playing the cynicism game can be fun, but only one person saw the fun in it. Too bad. Any thoughts, Olatunji?

[@theliamofella]

The most patronising statement I have ever heard, and with a childish but sinister intention “some people want to be oppressed”

[@lulassong6524]

Like the Irish famine? I think the English loved that.

[@vampireLOREN]

what was Chris Eubank doing there?

[@MrNiceHk]

lol

[@74bomayemcfc]

His face is a mixture of lip biting and what the fuck am i doing here!A great piece of footage.

[@theliamofella]

I thought Brendan was a little of form in that discussion, The idea that the Irish have long memories and if no country would let go of the past then nobody would be friends with nobody, I agree that you have to let go and more on but at the time of this video the British were still heavily involved in Ireland and also at the time of this video a lot the English ruling class had views like this fella “some people like to be oppressed “ , how can you communicate with that ideology

[@preacaininternational5637]

Ask them nicely to leave. And it all starts with civil rights and ends in freedom

[@theliamofella]

@@preacaininternational5637 civil rights activity only has any effect in a democracy, it doesn’t mean anything in a dictatorship or in an occupation, so in these cases only armed rebellion/war or accepting the situation are options (I think)

[@preacaininternational5637]

I never said to forget or turn the other cheek I would die for what I believe in freedom

[@preacaininternational5637]

As I said it all starts there resistance is existence reality is they couldint continue to subdue republican spirit they forced the situation to a siege and they lost.

[@MightyAlz]

...who the feck is this english guy? Is he just nuts, or what?

[@redryan20000]

@Irishfianna i lol'd

[@JontieDesario]

01: 34, if, if the English had long memories!

[@hooverguy6072]

They love being the victim. But then they have been treated badly.

[@paul479]

Long memories? This was in the 60s, before bloody Sunday. A couple of decades after independence. During a conflict up north that didnt end until 1998 and arguably is still alive. Most long memories? It seems the Brits have no memories, except when it comes to "winning" world war 2 or thr world cup. Or talking about kings and queens from centuries ago. The have long memories when it is convenient. And never learn the parts that aren't. I would agree with his argument in another context but not when they are still occupying and destroying the place. It takes time.

[@larrybyrne1]

@yam500 Thats what happens in a war.."son"

[@stevie2109]

That poor English chap getting roasted

[@gwenfancello5384]

Putin might do well to listen to these interviews

[@MacJaxonManOfAction]

Hahaha who the hell ever oppressed the English in their own land? The Normans? That's a way back.

[@greatone7314]

Drunken paddy making a show of himself

[@preacaininternational5637]

Drunk or sober we have taken the English language and dominate it as do the Scots to teach the English how to behave

[@peterjohndutoit]

Spoken like a typical English c@nt

[@michaelbermingham4502]

The English fella makes the most sense overall, despite the odd off colour remark

[@yoyoholck]

Michael Bermingham lol you have to be joking. or a terrible racist

[@adriankelly17]

Behan was pretty useless here and out of his depth. Not that the others were any better.

[@1lightheaded]

The Irish learned to speak English better than the English to avoid being hung it being technically illegal to be Irish at any time even in Ireland till 1922 James Joyce said "There's only that Englishman to beat ". That would be Shakespeare and I think he did but I was three quarters of the way through Finnegans Wake when I realised that I didn"t have the education to get all the jokes . I never got the Latin and Greek ,sor