Banks cold air intake, before you install one watch this

[@tomwelles3376]

With my 2019 Duramax, the Banks filter works fine. Price was reasonable . If you can't afford it or don't have the time for maintenance, just stay stock

[@Cantthinkofahandle117]

I have the Banks intake with ram air scoop on my 2006 LBZ. I expected to not notice much of a difference and probably only at highway speed. I was shocked at the improvement in off line acceleration and spool up. You really want to use cruise control on the highway because it will creep up from 65-70 to 80 mph+. The only issue is that my tire rubs the scoop on 285/75-16. I have to trim it and fiberglass over the hole.

[@JimmieABES]

I have the Sinister Diesel one in my truck. It’s a wide-open filter with an aluminum intake pipe so the turbo noise is nothing short of insane. I also have a Fleece Cheetah turbo to add to the bliss

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

Nice, I wish I would have gone with Sinister. I know there is air flow data from Banks but ease of access is a huge negative.

[@ReggieRhoades]

Did it throw your engine light on? It threw mine on after a week of being in I ran the code reader and it says mass air flow sensor

[@JimmieABES]

@@ReggieRhoades Mine didn’t. Try cleaning your MAF sensor and see if it helps.

[@ReggieRhoades]

@@JimmieABES okay I’m gonna try that it also says the MAP sensor was thrown too so I’m gonna clean that one as well. My truck only has 47k miles so it’s weird to me for the engine light to come on

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

@@ReggieRhoades I have thrown the mass airflow sensor code. From my understanding any oiled filter will produce vapor on hot days and that vapor coats the sensor with oil and eventually needs cleaned. I haven’t thrown that code in a while. I’ve cleaned the MAS with a Q tip and MAS cleaner.

[@thedevilsadvocate3710]

I agree with your logic if you're only looking to save money. But, if you want to squeeze as much efficiency out of your mods, Banks is a great starting point, and you've already got it. Though most mods to any engine have to be "unlocked" by tuning it through the car's ECU either through a piggyback or stand alone.

[@patricktuter5926]

Agreed, I know you get more airflow with Banks, it’s just such a pain in the butt😂

[@wadetharp348]

Just finished looking at the Banks "Ram-Air" filter system. Looks like they have included a bolt on cover to access the filter now.

[@TheQwikset]

No it's just a cover so you can see the filter and assess whether it's dirty enough to clean. Personally I love mine. Don't have to clean it very often and when I do, I clean the turbo as well it only takes 2 clamps to get the filter and the pipe off. Paperwork work says it's a 60000 mile filter. I'm at 40000 and it's still clean. Truck has 105000 on it.

[@stevenshell7815]

I would buy the sinster , u can remove the 4 screw window and clean filter

[@robertburgess6100]

It's not like you have to do it every other day. Winer😂

[@Danny19761978]

S&B is what I got it works great, and is easy to get filter out. Just 4 screws

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

I'm definitely regretting it.

[@brianclay3315]

Personally, I only clean and re-oil my filter every 50k miles. It's not to bad dirt wise, mostly dead bugs in the bottom. I don't mind undoing 2x band clamps and popping a few plastic clips to get to the filter.

[@JayRays1truck]

I have an S&B cold air intake and it has the large window so you can tell when your filter is dirty. You simply remove 4 phillips head jolts to pull the lid, or window, off to access the filter. It cost me less than $300.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

Exactly. I don't know why Banks wouldn't do the same.

[@davidanderson8469]

Less expensive and easier to service doesn't change S&B's statement that minimal at best performance gains are achieved.

[@Longsnowsm]

Thanks for sharing this video. I think you saved me on this one. I hadn't noticed there was no easy way to get into the Banks Ram Air. Just checked their web site and the Ram Air for the new Ram HD truck appears to still not have any way to get into that air box. This a huge problem considering this is a regular maintenance item. Thanks to this video I decided I better go with the S&B. They have the test data showing that their filters filter better than stock paper, but you have to service them more often. I think that is a fair trade as long as this is easy. They make swapping the filter out through the top through the plexiglass a prominent feature. Your video helped me a lot and I took the pass on the Banks Ram Air and gave S&B the nod. If Banks incorporated an easy way to maintain the filter and to visually inspect it the story would have been different.

[@CameronClark-y4n]

You went with S&B 😂😂😂 should have just stayed stock goober

[@MrNismopro]

I don’t go into my filter unless I hit 15k miles. Even if you have to disassemble the whole thing, it only takes 30 minutes.

[@greggmcafee4061]

I installed a S&B 50 state legal. Large window at top to remove filter. 2017 ram 6.7

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

Nice, wish I would have done the same ha ha

[@blackbetty4592]

Me too! 2016 deleted with tunes!

[@JPMotorhead1993]

You might be less bothered by having to take the whole thing apart if you cleaned your filter at the recommended service interval. There's just no need to do it every oil change plus, you risk getting potential contamination in your engine every time you take your intake apart.

[@1001011100101001]

The manual on my 2022 says inspect the air filter every 15k miles. For me that's about once a month. How are you going to inspect it without taking it out?

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

I do landscape and tree work which creates dusty environment. Issue is removing filter housing, taking tube off turbo etc. Its too long of a process and takes a long time to do. Why not have a cover on the housing we can access the filter and its out in less than 5 min? Also the rubber hose that connects the intake tube to the turbo isn't long enough. Always slips off the turbo over time. Just give me another inch of tubing and that would help. I just expect more from a company like Banks.

[@thehilltopworkshop]

So... The banks product works, but because you cant hear the turbo and it takes a little longer to service, you've gone with an inferior setup?

[@meseahunt]

they changed the removal process now so all u do is loosen the ring at both ends and the tube comes right off, sucks to have old technology when the new tech cost $$$, i get it

[@martinbrousseau2560]

K&N also has the scoop to the bumper.

[@davidanderson8469]

It'll suck up more air to be poorly filtered.

[@martinbrousseau2560]

@@davidanderson8469 I would rather have a scoop above the pass-side windshield to push in clean air away from the dirt n dust. As important is to bring in clean air opposite from oncoming traffic which brings its own dust trail. Least from the passenger side above windshield it creates some distance from oncoming traffic dust.

[@ronaldbabbitt6318]

HSP Cold air intake bundle, though the Banks looks like a great intake, I have no problem pulling the filter on my HSP. And excellent Air flow, I could hear it on my Duramax vacuuming sounds right after installing great at the turbo! Great video Thanks 🏁 Lmm in Colorado 🤠

[@timflaig8983]

I love my S+B intake!! Much cheaper!! With a huge window to see the filter that you can pop off to clean......

[@ericnonya3650]

Put the rare wheels on stands and run it in reverse to blow dirt back out.. simple!

[@1hotahi964]

Have a 2015 Ram 3500. Had a drop in KN until Banks came out with the first COMMIFORNIA compliant cold air intake. I have about 60000 on the intake and filter. Have only cleaned it twice. Also have the Monster Ram and exhaust. All CARB compliant. I see a noticeable difference with all of them together. Intercooler and boost tubes coming in a few months. Nothing hard about cleaning the air filter. ONE bolt and ONE large hose clamp. If your careful there is nothing electrical to disconnect.

[@caroldavid1019]

2016 3500 with Banks intake and Monster Ram. Everything else is OEM. I use the truck to pull a 15.5k 5th wheel. No noticable change in power and definitely no improvement in MPG. In fact, towing around the Carolinas and OH over the past couple of months it is actually averaging .2 MPG less than previous years. I'll have better data after our annual trip to FL this Thanksgiving. The most annoying thing is the obnoxious drone the intake makes while cruising and when the exhaust brake engages. Might have been cool when I was a teen but now I just want a peaceful ride.

[@davidanderson8469]

@@caroldavid1019 The stock air filter setup is good for 500 hp . Nothing cleans like it and the engineers designed it like that for a reason.

[@clintkaller6297]

You state that you would remove the air intake baffle. Look at some of the air flow research that has been done. It indicates you get better air flow with the baffle as it directs the air flow toward to center of the turbo. It's a physics thing. Sometimes an open tube is not as effective as a directed air flow.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

The Banks intake is just a big open tube. I'm not disagreeing with you but the stock baffle was just a hollow band of plastic wrapped in foam. Looked to me that it was more to silence turbo spool up than to direct air. Also, you'd think on a turbo intake, directed air flow wouldn't matter as much due to the turbo is just going to suck in and compress the air, not put it directly into the engine as it still travels to the opposite side of the engine through pipes before going in. I'm certainly not a air flow engineer.

[@blakenoble9468]

People have argued this but as a turbine mechanic a thing to point out is the turbo is pulling air, air isn't being forced into the turbo. So pressure on the bottom or top or center makes no difference it's pulling air directly into the veins no matter the angle of the tube

[@dustindavies8128]

I heard not to remove the baffle. A guy makes a really good video of it using idash gauges.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

The Banks intake is just a open plastic tube. No baffle. So my argument is, whats the difference between a $500 tube or a drop in K&N filter for $75 and taking out the baffle which doesn't appear to direct airflow in any pattern? Sure you may get more air with the larger tube but is it worth $500 and having to take it apart every cleaning? If they allowed access to the filter for cleaning I'd feel different.

[@dustindavies8128]

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[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

@@dustindavies8128 Ha ha I was about to give you the same link. Love his videos. I do have an aftermarket turbo as my stock already failed. Not sure if there is a hard lip just before the turbines or not. Looks like the drop to the turbo and the hard edge are what restricts air flow. Wonder why Banks doesnt address this in their design.

[@martinherrington4478]

The guy‘s name is Gail Banks. He provides real scientific data from actual machines that are designed to measure the data.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

@@martinherrington4478 Watch the link. If the baffle actually improves airflow to the turbo, due to the drop from box to turbo, why doesn't Banks do the same thing? Banks just supplies an open tube. Which is why I argue to leave it along and put in a drop in K&N and save yourself $500.

[@SteveH-pc1zs]

Great information. Was in review of both

[@erikvanderburg3597]

Agreed should be easy replace

[@freeze5033]

S&B makes an easy to service system.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

I should have went with that one!

[@RaceMentally]

Can I buy the stock system or part of it from you? I just need the elbow into turbo.

[@caliboosted]

I love this truck 😊.

[@mikeschwendeman4403]

45 minutes lovin on my truck in any way is time well spent. I have a female friend in Texas that would tell me to cry a river of tears and build a bridge of sorrows over it if I made a video like this.

[@felipemadera6078]

You dont have to take it all apart 2 bolts and you are done

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

In order to move the filter out of the intake box, you have to take it off the turbo, unplug the wiring, then unbolt the intake box. So yes, you have to literally take the whole thing apart. There is no room to pull the tube and filter out of the intake box.

[@felipemadera6078]

@@tacticaldieseldad5695 no sir in order to clean your filter all you got to do is remove the bolt that is holding the air box wich is a 15 mm i believe and then loosen up your clamp that is attach to your filter and your airbox comes out so you can clean it! I have done it several times its a 5 min job max

[@FernandoMartinez-js4lb]

Air intake not the culprit its the intake elbow you have a good airfilter...

[@spenceretsy]

How is it taking you 45-60 mins on cleaning the filter? It literally takes me maybe 10 mins if I’m going slow to clean my banks filter on my duramax.

[@patricktuter5926]

On an oiled filter, you spray a cleaner, let it soak 15 min per instructions. Wash, rinse, then you have to wash again if it’s heavily soiled. Then it will take 1-2 hours to dry on a warm day. Then you oil and re assemble.

[@markdavis9510]

There's only a difference in power in cold air intakes on diesel engines if you're hauling a trailer. That's it. I'm a hot shot driver so I benefit from CAI's after 100k loaded miles. My personal truck is 100% stock.

[@techs1smh13]

I have 03 Federal emissions lb7 with complete banks big hoss bundle and pda 6 gun cold air kit k and n under lip front bumper scoop hauls mail. 10 minutes take out and clean. I'm a desert racer so I'm in dirt quite often. 90 percent of off road racers including million dollars trophy trucks run k and n with a pre filter for real fine silt.

[@McMuffinat0r]

Thanks for the info!

[@Outlaw1125]

Those mirrored glasses? 😆

[@kellogg2185]

K&N are terrible filter choices for the Cummins, that's pretty much common knowledge. Stick to Fleetguard.

[@davidanderson8469]

Yep. Project Farm rated it the worst. reat flow numbers because it does not filter the air competently.

[@chrisao1987]

With any “cold air intake” you will not see a difference on a stock truck. If you use the banks tuner that’s tuned with their intake. It makes a HUGE difference. If your also wondering about oiled or dry filters it makes 0 difference. The dry is easier and cheaper to maintain.

[@Motleymick]

Good vid. And you're right you have to remove the whole damn thing just to clean or change the filter. P.I.T.F.A. !! But I love having it. I have a 2022 3500 HO and I went with the Banks CIA oiled air filter. I can feel better throttle response and hear cool turbo sounds. I live in dirty Vegas so every 6 months I gotta to the deed and take it all apart, clean, oil and reinstall. But once its clean and good to go, I love it. Peace!

[@davidanderson8469]

Have you dyno'd it with and without? is there a mpg increase?

[@SlackerU]

So you're wanting to clean your air filter every oil change? The dry filters will do 20k & the oiled ones will do 30k, both can be cleaned. The issue my neighbor is ignoring is how much debris might be getting sucked into his engine & destroying his environmental parts to the truck. Banks sells mass-air-density where all the others are selling gluttonous-hype.

[@laurencecoleman8817]

You don't really see much power gains from an air filter, it just helps the engine breathe better, and knn filters are garbage

[@wadetharp348]

From what I have researched I agree with your assessment of K&N filter. Found a good critique of them (negative) on youtube. That being said I have had a hard time getting data on what to look for in a cold air filter (dry preferably). Specifically what particle size they should be filtering out. Would you be able to point me in the right direction on which are the better ones?

[@davidanderson8469]

Yep.

[@stephencraig5889]

Thanks for sharing. After watching this I am getting an S&B. My diesel shop I take my truck to actually recommends those over the Banks

[@wanderingquestions7501]

Exactly. That’s why I haven’t bought one.

[@elliotheichel8480]

I mean, i guess if you are in nasty, dirty, dusty areas constantly... then cleaning it regularly is needed... honestly i clean mine maybe once a year, and everytime i open it up, its barely even dusty? Plus, banks literally has the proven best numbers for air intakes on the cummins. My truck improved 3 mpg with this thing... but hey, idk this guys situation, so obviously not for everyone.

[@danielgreen7159]

My philosophy exactly. I keep hearing cold air,cold air . I can't help but wonder how many people know that they come from the factory with a COLD air intake. I upgraded my drop in filter and let it go at that for less than $70.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

Yup, thats the way to go.

[@azdrift13]

Yeah but once you remember that baffle you're messing with the turbine of the turbos air flow. That's a very aggressive drop from 3” to 5 or. 6” whatever that drop is into the turbo inlet. A guy did a full video with a monitor set up to see what the difference is in performance. Yeah you save a couple bucks today but when that turbo goes out how much you spending now?

[@joerobbins5173]

Thanks for the info

[@doct5941]

Appreciate the video

[@Theflyriver]

Disregard this if you have a Chevy. My CAF for 21’ Duramax has only 4 screws and the tube comes right out……

[@chrismaze3441]

I had a 85 Ford F250 with the 6.9 i put a banks side winder turbo kit on it made a huge diff but in the end it started pouring oil from under the heads

[@Ibelieve350]

Are you for real right now dude

[@manwithnoname734]

Thanks for the video. I put a lot of miles on my truck and that sounds like a major pain in the ass!

[@chrisjackson624]

Should’ve went with the S&B Way Easier

[@mikemcfadden1644]

Your underhood is all backwards from mine.

[@BenKlassen1]

Snake oil

[@Se7enmax9]

Should’a went with an S&B intake!

[@BenjaminStubbs]

Banks is probably the best in the biz

[@nolefanx07]

You’d replace a baffle with an air filter ? I’m sorry what ? You lost me on this one.

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

Instead of paying $500 for the intake kit, take out the stock baffle thats just before the turbo (foam pad and plastic tube used to silence turbo spool up) and use a drop in K&N Air filter.

[@jamesj7238]

screwing around with aftermarket shit that doesnt work so they can get more noise and maybe 1% better power or economy, hilarious

[@josecastillo1223]

You can’t have it both ways, it’s either quality or trash you sound like you want trash

[@coolstuff9264]

Wow, stop making videos, you're recommendation blows up more engine's then no filter at all, please stop

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

The banks intake is a filter and open tube to the turbo. All I said was save yourself $500 and put a drop in K&N. Maybe have dialog instead of being a jerk.

[@goducgo]

Thanks for the advice. I like Banks products but you get a lemon every once in awhile.

[@davidjensen7390]

Wish i would have watched this before i got mine….total regret

[@andrinpoopfong2214]

Get a Chevy. Problem solved. Whiner

[@tacticaldieseldad5695]

@@andrinpoopfong2214 Thank you for the wisdom you have bestowed upon us all. The mark of an educated man is calling a stranger names on the internet. I can only hope to become as wise and manly as you some day.